00:00 <Finwe> Abstractly, we have a proposition P(n). We show that P(n) implies P(n+1). Then, if we can show that P(n) is true for some n, we also know that it's true for any interger >= n.
00:00 <PinkieShy> Knock Knock.. Who's There?... Bec.. Bec Who? Because I'm Batman!
00:00 <Finwe> Because true can only imply true.
00:01 * PinkieShy hands Finwe a sheep
00:01 <LibrarianofHope> no more math
00:01 <Finwe> o3o
00:01 <Cepheid> So, what, then? Do I just put in n + 1 into both formulas and show that the end result is the same? By this, I mean, in the above, since I demonstrated it holds for f(1), do I show that it holds for f(2)?
00:01 * Finwe shears the sheep.
00:01 <LibrarianofHope> its frying our brains
00:01 <LibrarianofHope> the math elder gods will doom us
00:02 <Cepheid> I'm starting to think the confusion stems from the examples he gave us.
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00:02 <Finwe> Cepheid: No. You first show that the f(1) you get from the given formula satisfies the recurrence equation, which it does.
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00:04 <Finwe> Then you assume that f(k) given by the formula satisfies the recurrence equation, and proceeding from this assumption you prove that f(k+1) also satisfies the equation.
00:04 <LibrarianofHope> im so confused
00:04 <LibrarianofHope> what is this math disertation for?
00:05 <Finwe> It's supposed to be basic recurrence equations for CS students.
00:05 <Finwe> They're used in analysis of algorithms.
00:05 <LibrarianofHope> im still lost
00:06 <LibrarianofHope> the for dummies version please
00:06 <Cepheid> Because, for example, here's what he demonstrated: f(0) = 5, f(n) = f(n - 1) + 6n - 3. Prove that for all n >= 0, that f(n) = 3n^2 + 5. He then goes to assume that it's true for n - 1, then assumes f(n - 1) = 3(n - 1)^2 + 5. He then shows the whole thing is true by doing f(n) = f(n - 1) + 6n - 3, using substitution to get f(n) = 3(n - 1)^2 + 5 + 6n - 3, then: f(n) = 3[n^2 - 2n + 1] + 5 + 6n - 3, then f(n) = 3n^2 - 6n + 3
00:06 <Cepheid> + 5 + 6n - 3, which finally: f(n) = 3n^2 + 5
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00:06 <LibrarianofHope> holy cow
00:06 <Cepheid> This is how he solved all his recurrence examples.
00:06 <Cepheid> He used substitution, then reduction.
00:07 <Cepheid> Therefore, I made the assumption that this is how we were supposed to solve these problems.
00:07 * LibrarianofHope bows before the math gods
00:07 * LibrarianofHope offers ali as a sacrifice
00:07 <LibrarianofHope> dont smite us with numbers owo
00:07 * Ali squeaks, she's not good at dying
00:08 <LibrarianofHope> i have a plan
00:08 <Finwe> Cepheid: It really does not make a difference whether your induction assumption is done for n = k or n = k - 1.
00:08 <LibrarianofHope> it says korn there
00:08 <Cepheid> This is why I swear I'm lacking knowledge I need.
00:08 <Finwe> Proving that P(k-1) implies P(k) is essentially the same as proving that P(k) implies P(k+1).
00:09 <Cepheid> Why am I even in this course? I shouldn't even be allowed as I don't meet any pre-requisites.
00:09 * LibrarianofHope juggles cepheid
00:12 <Cepheid> Hmm.
00:13 <Finwe> So, we have that the f(1) you get from the given formula actually is 2.
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00:14 <Cepheid> Hmm. What happens if...?
00:15 <Finwe> To be on the safe side you can also check that the f(2) you get from the formula actually satisfies the equation.
00:15 <Cepheid> ... o3o.
00:15 <Finwe> It does, you get 5/4 from both.
00:16 <Finwe> You then assume that f(k) you get from the formula satisfies the equation.
00:16 <Cepheid> I forgot one basic math rule, which I just applied, and got a final answer that works.
00:16 * LibrarianofHope is awed at Cepheid
00:16 <LibrarianofHope> im not even joking, i cannot begin to wrap my mind around this stuff
00:17 <Finwe> Then you write the formula for f(k+1) and verify that it is the same f(k+1) you get from the equation by inserting the formula for f(k) in it.
00:17 * Cepheid double checks just to make sure though.
00:17 <Finwe> There is only some basic arithmetics involved.
00:17 <LibrarianofHope> Ali i feel dumb today
00:17 <Finwe> Multiplication of binomials.
00:17 * Finwe noms on Ali's tail.
00:17 <LibrarianofHope> can we talk writer craft, that i know
00:20 <LibrarianofHope> Finwe, what is the actual use of the math disertartion, as in what real life results gets
00:21 <Cepheid> In computer science, it has uses in theoretical stuff.
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00:21 <Cepheid> In programming, it has no real functional use.
00:21 <LibrarianofHope> its like inventing stuff?
00:22 <Finwe> LibrarianofHope: Assume that you have to write an algorithm that does stuff.
00:23 <Cepheid> These kinds of mathematics are used to prove that they will complete in some finite number of steps, or time. Among other things.
00:23 <Cepheid> Mostly irrelevant to me.
00:23 <Finwe> Analysing the algorithm by terms of running time or computational complexity gives you some idea of how efficient your algorithm is.
00:23 <LibrarianofHope> ahh
00:23 <Finwe> E.g. mergesort performs better than bubblesort, although both get the job done.
00:24 <LibrarianofHope> that i can understand
00:24 <Cepheid> I mean, I will use this stuff, but..
00:24 <Cepheid> This is a bit much.
00:24 <LibrarianofHope> so in essence you are trying to get results faster and better
00:24 <Finwe> Random sort has the fastest best case but it only gets the job done asymptotically.
00:26 <LibrarianofHope> i call dibs on robot bodies
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00:36 * Cepheid breaks Microsoft's calculator.
00:36 <Cepheid> It's been confusing me for some time, and I just realized it now.
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00:39 <Vulpor> Its kinda official that my favorite wrestler is retiring
00:41 <Thelema5> The Undertaker?
00:41 <Cepheid> ... Why the hell do I think that 2^0 is 2?
00:43 <Finwe> It's actually 1.
00:43 <Finwe> Pretty much everything apart from 0 to the power of 0 is 1.
00:43 <Cepheid> I know.
00:43 <LibrarianofHope> i once saw the undertaker live in mexico
00:43 <Cepheid> I'm asking a stupid, rhetorical question.
00:43 <LibrarianofHope> he is huge, like inmense
00:44 <Vulpor> Yeah Thelma5
00:44 <Vulpor> Thelema5 rather
00:46 <LibrarianofHope> thelemaaaa how is it you dont have acid reflux
00:47 <Cepheid> ...
00:48 <Cepheid> Finwe, son of a- I figured it out. And my mistake?
00:48 <Cepheid> I forgot that 1 / (a / b) = b / a
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00:56 <Cepheid> Heh, though, that doesn't completely hold for computers. If you calculate (a / b), and store it somewhere, say, c, then do 1 / c, you'll get 0.59999 repeating. Meanwhile, 3 / 5 = 0.6 as expected.
00:56 <Cepheid> 1 / (5 / 3) works just fine, though.
01:00 <Finwe> Cepheid: You should have got something like http://users.aalto.fi/~vhalkola/solution.pdf
01:01 <Cepheid> That's what I did, yeah.
01:02 <Cepheid> It was a little different for step 2 though. Either way, the end-result is the same.
01:03 <Cepheid> I was initially trying to solve it in such a way that the 1 / f(n - 1) became 1 / (...(I'm not typing it out anymore)) and kept it that way, so I had some horribly large and confusing stuff sticking out. I didn't think to use 1 / (a / b) = b / a.
01:04 <Cepheid> I haven't used that in a long time.
01:05 <Finwe> Otherwise it's just (a+1)(a-1) = a^2 - 1 and (a+1)^2 = a^2 + 2a + 1 and (a-1)^2 = a^2 -2a - 1.
01:06 <Cepheid> The only reason I even remembered it was that I was doing something, and came across a formula in the form of (a / b) / (c / d), and my memory went "Right, so we do (a / b) * (d / c) to simplify it. Wait. Wasn't there another part in that form as well? ... 1 / (a / b). What if I treated it as (1 / 1) / (a / b)? ... Son of a-"
01:06 <Cepheid> Seriously, I used a more complicated trick to figure out a simpler trick.
01:06 <Cepheid> Which when I applied it, I looked at the result, did some more math, and voila.
01:10 <Cepheid> With that out of the way, I've basically completed all the questions I can for the time being.
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01:24 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=penvn9VL32Y
01:24 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Modest Mouse - Dashboard
01:25 <Cepheid> A surreal video. Schism would like it.
01:26 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Andrea Libman Heading to BronyCon 2019 [ http://tinyurl.com/ybg4f4sj ]
01:27 * Cepheid noms on Filly_Nightmares. 「eeeee」はおいしいです。
01:28 * Filly_Nightmares sick eees at Cepheid and suckles on his nosie
01:29 <Cepheid> Not feeling well?
01:34 <Cepheid> ... Chestnut cake is a thing?
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01:38 <Cepheid> I feel much better now. Finwe, thank you for your help.
01:39 <Cepheid> The root of my trouble was actually something neither of us brought up, but talking with you about the issue was able to help me keep calm as I wracked my brain.
01:46 <Cepheid> Hmm.
01:49 <Cepheid> I want to create a device which monitors my blood flow, blood pressure, and analyzes the blood's composition. Practically impossible due to that last item, I'm sure. As for why, I want to use it to track my blood over multiple long periods ending with one of my psychotic episodes.
01:50 <Cepheid> I want to see if there are any correlating factors with the leadup to the breaking point and chemicals in my bloodstream. I still argue that there's some sort of adrenaline surge prior to an episode. It'd be nice to confirm.
01:51 <Cepheid> After which I'd use math to translate that correlation into a value ranging from 0%(Just recovered) to 100%(Breaking.)
01:59 <PinkieShy> Sleepy..
02:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1703 [ http://tinyurl.com/yckpm6ko ]
02:08 <Cepheid> Hum, so it's not a kernel panic, but rather that the video drivers won't re-enable the display after a powersave blanking.
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02:32 * Cepheid poses a meatball atop a mountain of spaghetti covered in cheese.
02:32 <Cepheid> Loses*
02:35 <Schism> Heh, Cepheid: https://heeris.id.au/trinkets/ProgrammerInterrupted.png
02:37 * Filly_Nightmares latches onto Cepheid face
02:37 * Filly_Nightmares is cold floofy
02:37 <Finwe> Uhh, I woke up after just an hour of sleep.
02:37 <Finwe> You're welcome, Cepheid.
02:37 <SunsetShimmer> RIP you
02:38 <Cepheid> Heh.
02:39 * Finwe uses Filly_Nightmares as a plushie and SunsetShimmer as blankets and tries to sleep at least 6 hours more.
02:40 * Cepheid Mr. X's around. Sneaks up on SunsetShimmer. In his trenchcoat and non-canon fedora, he tips his hat. "M'Lady." He then throws a punch.
02:41 * Filly_Nightmares purr
02:42 <Cepheid> Schism, I hate math.
02:42 * SunsetShimmer Is sent through a wall. xD
02:43 <SunsetShimmer> I do too
02:43 <SunsetShimmer> Math is, like, blech
02:44 <Finwe> Math is like bleach, it removes the stains from your logic.
02:44 <Finwe> Also, you misspelt "bleach". o3o
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03:00 * ADragonDreaming puts away roll20 for now.
03:01 <ADragonDreaming> Let's do a few hunts.
03:01 <ADragonDreaming> get the weapons/armor I'm missing.
03:03 <SunsetShimmer> I wasn't spelling bleach
03:04 <SunsetShimmer> blech is a general 'ick' statement
03:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Pointy Ponies Dancing to Copyright Free Music [ http://tinyurl.com/ya94tu78 ]
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07:30 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
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08:09 * Finwe slaps SunsetShimmer around a bit with a largish halibut.
08:09 <Finwe> Of course you weren't spelling "bleach". o3o
08:11 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift.
08:11 <Finwe> o7
08:12 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)
08:12 * Finwe puts the halibut away.
08:16 <ConfusionRift> http://www.the-weaving.com/images/DC2/TV2008042423440200.jpg :P
08:17 <ConfusionRift> It's a tuna, but still.
08:34 <ConfusionRift> This is a weapon I have always wished to see again somewhere.
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08:37 <Finwe> It looks like the Atlantic bluefin tuna.
08:37 <Finwe> A small specimen, though.
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08:41 <ConfusionRift> It used to be much bigger.
08:43 <ConfusionRift> https://i.ytimg.com/vi/yxBhGfVmRx0/hqdefault.jpg
08:49 * Finwe hats on Ali.
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09:04 <Koopz> RAdm. Finwe
09:04 <Koopz> o7
09:10 <Finwe> Capt Koopz.
09:10 <Finwe> o7
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09:13 <Koopz> i need to find some obscure movie to watch tonight, any suggestions?
09:14 <Koopz> something along the lines of Time Bandits, Bladerunner and the Labyrinth
09:14 <Ali> MLP the Movie *shot*
09:14 <Finwe> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0265870/
09:15 <Finwe> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090849/
09:15 <Finwe> And then there's of course https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070948/
09:16 <Finwe> About the only film Sean Connery regrets having acted in.
09:21 <Koopz> those sound a bit too abscure lol
09:21 <Finwe> You demanded obscurity, obscurity is what you got.
09:23 <Finwe> This list is also rather good: https://www.listchallenges.com/80-obscure-films
09:26 <ConfusionRift> I recognize some of these. And there are... let's say, above the PG-13 rating. :P
09:27 <Koopz> hmm... Cool World looks interesting xD
09:27 <Koopz> didn't know someone else stole Roger Rabbit's idea
09:28 <Koopz> Howard the Duck might be good too
09:28 <ConfusionRift> Actually... well, ain't spoiling nothing.
09:29 <ConfusionRift> Oh wow, Mom And Dad Save The World.
09:30 * ConfusionRift laughs at the last two on the list.
09:31 <ConfusionRift> I'm sorry, due to the opinions of certain critics, those last few aren't that obscure.
09:32 <Koopz> Mario Bros would certainly fit the bill, yeah :D
09:32 <Koopz> friggin' Goombas
09:32 <ConfusionRift> Sidekicks and A Troll in Central Park as well.
09:34 <ConfusionRift> Oh yeah, and some of these are very violent.
09:35 <Koopz> maybe we'll end up watching the old Lord of the Rings
09:35 <Koopz> 1978 edition
09:37 <Koopz> i only saw a single scene from it but i think we'd be scarred for life afterwards
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09:39 <ConfusionRift> Have seen plenty in my youth.
09:42 <Finwe> Koopz: The animated one that covers about the first half of the story?
09:46 <Koopz> yeah probably
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10:33 * Finwe hats on Koopz.
10:50 * Filly_Nightmares curls up on Finwe and uses him as a bed and goes sleepies
10:50 <Filly_Nightmares> Nini!
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11:05 * DerbyFloat chews on ConfusionRift's hooves
11:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1477 [ http://tinyurl.com/y9qezaos ]
11:07 * ConfusionRift pets DerbyFloat. :P
11:10 * DerbyFloat drools on ConfusionRift before going sleepy
11:14 * ConfusionRift patpats DerbyFloat. "Have a good one."
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12:11 <Cepheid> Morning.
12:12 <ConfusionRift> G'Morning.
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12:28 <Cepheid> I hate math i hate math i hate math.
12:28 <ConfusionRift> Hmmm, sounds about right. :P
12:29 <Cepheid> Heh.
12:29 <Cepheid> Off topic, but do you want a character named after you in the latest EO game series run I am doing?
12:32 <Cepheid> It is worth noting I am playing it on the hardest difficulty, Heroic, which is equivalent to Expert, but prevents me from changing the difficulty at all afterwards.
12:33 <Cepheid> Also, it is the last game in the series. It will be throwing some of the worst *yay* the series has ever thrown at me . I am also in need of a protector.
12:34 <Cepheid> Which i currently have in the form of a random name character. I can also change their portrait to that of a robot. o3o
12:39 <ConfusionRift> Cepheid: I wouldn't mind. :P
12:40 <ConfusionRift> Always thought of extending to other games, so seeing my character mess around other places is kinda nice to see.
12:40 <ConfusionRift> Now, heavy difficulty... hmmm.
12:41 <Cepheid> Basically as the protector, you'd be standing in to protect everyone. Not by taking damage though.... Most of the time anyways.
12:41 <Cepheid> Expert diff is equivalent to the original DS games difficulty. Insanely hard, but doable.
12:42 <ConfusionRift> Ah, so a protector is basically a last resort tank. I do like that.
12:42 <Cepheid> .... I have been working on the story for a single game as a side project to the current game I have been working on.
12:43 <Cepheid> I just turned the story into a quadrilogy minimum.
12:43 <Cepheid> Confusion, more like a REQUIRED tank.
12:43 <Cepheid> Fighting without a protector is ludicrous. Especially early on.
12:44 <Cepheid> To give some perspective, no skills on anyone, default armor. First battle.
12:44 <Cepheid> The enemies were doing about 38 damage a hit. The frontliners have at most 60 HP.
12:44 <Cepheid> Even with upgraded armour, the damage was closer to about 20 a hit.
12:45 <Cepheid> A protector skilled with Front or Back Guard can reduce the samage considerably. With Front Guard, the frontliners were taking 8 damage a hit.
12:46 <Cepheid> Heavens help you if the back row is attacked though. Squishy classes have at most 40 HP and their vit/defense is so low that even in the back row, they can die in a single hit.
12:47 <Cepheid> So usually I have the protector pick up a Taunt skill to ensure most of the attacks go to the front row. Usually the protector.
12:48 <Cepheid> Basically, you are now the punching bag. A sentient punching bag who works to keep the rest of the pillows from dying from a light tap. You also work to reduce the damage you take.
12:56 <ConfusionRift> I still find it as an appropriate class. :P
12:58 <ConfusionRift> I have not played the game before, so had to check the wiki. The seem to be pointed as a back row tank. But still, make sense to use the heavier defense class as a front row wall.
12:59 <ConfusionRift> "That's what tankers are for!" | I knooooow. (bumps head)
13:00 <Cepheid> Honestly they are designdd as a pure tank regardless. The reason fof the front row in my sauad is that I fill up the back row with three types of squishies.
13:00 <Cepheid> ... stupid phone.
13:00 <Cepheid> Anyways... Debuffer, healer, offensive magic.
13:01 <Cepheid> And the back row can only hold 3 characters.
13:01 <Cepheid> Thus, the front row has me, the pugilist who fights with their fists, and you, the tanker who mitigates damage. Either indirectly or directly.
13:07 <Cepheid> Also, be sure of which class you are looking at. The protector from Etrian Odyssey 1 is heavily different from the one in later games. Same role, but abilities worked different then.
13:08 <Cepheid> They got nerfed in the later games, and other, non-tanking classes adopted some of their skills to encourage usage of other classes.
13:08 <Cepheid> But they pretty much remain central to the party.
13:08 <ConfusionRift> Which one is this?
13:08 <Cepheid> Without one, you are taking a considerable risk.
13:08 <Cepheid> Etrian Odyssey Nexus.
13:08 <Cepheid> Or Etrian Odyssey X, as it's known in Japan.
13:08 <Cepheid> Apparently, publishers and marketing really don't like the word "Cross" for games here.
13:09 <Cepheid> It basically takes 19 of the most popular classes from the entire series, puts them into one. The story even connects them all.
13:09 <Cepheid> Sort of, anyway.
13:10 <Cepheid> Etrian Odyssey 5 is not mentioned in the game. Probably because it took place on a separate planet from the earlier games.
13:10 <Cepheid> However, it's Yggdrasil tree *IS* mentioned in the opening video.
13:10 <Cepheid> "Seven Yggdrasil Trees guard all of creation." That would be Etrian Odyssey 1 through 5, plus the two Mystery Dungeon games.
13:13 <Cepheid> The lore behind Nexus itself, is that an eight tree appeared, presumably without explanation.
13:13 <Cepheid> Unlike the other 7, which appear to have been around for a long time.
13:14 <Cepheid> Etria... theirs was manufactured. High Lagaard, theirs... You know, I don't know. I never did complete post-game, so I don't know what that tree is for.
13:15 <Cepheid> Armoroad, theirs is... I'm not keen on spoiling it. Same with EO4's tree. EO5 was just.. what.
13:15 <Cepheid> BUt given #3, it wasn't that mindblowing.
13:15 <Cepheid> Mystery Dungeon 1, no idea. Never finished the game. Need to fix that. Mystery Dungeon 2... I'm not even sure we have that one.
13:16 <Cepheid> Quick research says no, we do not.
13:17 <ConfusionRift> For what system?
13:17 <Cepheid> 3DS.
13:17 <Cepheid> The whole series overall is spread across two systems. 1-3 were for the DS. 4, Untold 1, Untold 2, 5, Mystery Dungeon 1 & 2, were for the 3DS. Nexus is also for the 3DS.
13:18 <ConfusionRift> There is "technically" a way to play. Alas, the other option would be to import it.
13:18 <Cepheid> Indeed
13:18 <Cepheid> I'd likely just import.
13:18 <ConfusionRift> And hope that is has an English option.
13:18 <Cepheid> That seems unlikely.
13:19 <Cepheid> More recent games, sure, I could expect that to a degree.
13:19 <Cepheid> Especially games on the Switch.
13:19 <Cepheid> Apparently there has been an upsurge in providing English and other foreign languages alongside Japanese in many Switch games, now.
13:19 <ConfusionRift> Interestingly enough, some of the older games that were meant to go overseas have English translations.
13:19 <Cepheid> That would be because of China.
13:20 <ConfusionRift> And I mean legitimate translations, not Google Translate... translations.
13:20 <Cepheid> Yeah, I know.
13:21 <Cepheid> It's becoming more common in recent games.
13:21 <Cepheid> A lot of Japanese-only games that provide English translations, despite them being games that would never be released in the West.
13:21 <Cepheid> I sometimes wonder if that happens to be because of the issues of localization.
13:21 <Cepheid> Namely, censorship issues.
13:22 <Cepheid> If I were a developer, and I was told that I couldn't publish a game because it had to have content removed to meet their strict sales requirements, I'd just tell 'em to **** off, translate the game for that region, implement the translation, and sell the game on my website to said target country as an import option.
13:23 <Cepheid> I want my games to reach as large a population when I finish them, yes. But I have integrity. It's either let me sell the game as is, or I'll find a way around the system. Importing is not subject to the same rules as typical sales.
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13:23 <Cepheid> Alternatively, to avoid importing, since I tend to focus mostly on PC..
13:24 <ConfusionRift> Unfortunately, if you're working under a company's name, your work is considered their's. Unless you go for the lone developer route.
13:24 <Cepheid> I'm aware.
13:24 <Cepheid> I was speaking from the indie developer route.
13:24 <ConfusionRift> Suspected would be the case.
13:24 <Cepheid> Anyways, said alternative?
13:25 <Cepheid> Non-DRM, Non-Steam, Non-GOG, Non-EAStore, Non-EpicStore release.
13:25 <Cepheid> Costs the same, unmodified.
13:25 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, there'd be a version for the various digital stores that is modified to meet their demands.
13:26 <Cepheid> With constant reminders via social media that the unmodified versions can be purchased from the homepage of the developer.
13:26 <ConfusionRift> But yeah, this censorship thing is just dumb. Well, for the most parts.
13:26 <Cepheid> I logically understand why they do it.
13:26 <Cepheid> It's a cultural acceptability thing.
13:26 <Cepheid> But a good number of cases take it a bit too far.
13:27 <Cepheid> You could have a character who's female, 25, 4'11" tall, and have a flat chest, and that'd be considered unacceptable in-game with certain types of content.
13:27 <Cepheid> And the best part is? This isn't imposible.
13:28 <Cepheid> I had a co-worker who was literally a full foot and a half shorter than me, but she was 26 years old. She also had a flat chest, so she looked a lot like a mid-teens teenager.
13:28 <Cepheid> She complained about it a lot because she found it hard to find guys who would date her, etc.
13:29 <Cepheid> She also gets carded everywhere, for everything almost.
13:30 <ConfusionRift> Well, not so sure about that one. They have been doing that in here a lot, regardless of look.
13:30 <ConfusionRift> But then again, there are reasons.
13:31 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.
13:31 <Cepheid> But I don't get carded at all, but then again.
13:31 <Cepheid> I'm bald, I have a graying beard, and I'm 6'1", and a bit overweight.
13:31 <Cepheid> I'm pretty much a prime example of "old geezer."
13:32 <ConfusionRift> I never really tried to pull that off, even with a present chance. Have had multiple streaks of bad luck to even bother.
13:32 <Cepheid> But yeah, beyond *THAT* aspect of video games being censored, it's gone a little overboard.
13:33 <ConfusionRift> Oh yeah, I agree.
13:33 <Cepheid> Language is being censored again, and seemingly innocuous imagery is being censored again.
13:33 <ConfusionRift> Everything now has a form of censorship.
13:33 <Cepheid> Apparently, in many of the Neptune games, which yes, does have a fair amount of fanservice, there has been censorship of stuff that makes no sense.
13:34 <Cepheid> Apparently, in much of one game, a character is seen in thigh-highs and such.
13:34 <Cepheid> But in one scene, which doesn't even bring attention to it, had the thigh-highs censored by turning them into full-on tights.
13:35 <Cepheid> We're talking a scene that's from an upper-angle, thus, you wouldn't even see much of the skin to begin with, underneath the skirt said character is wearing.
13:35 <Cepheid> So there was absolutely nothing questionable about it, and yet the developers had to censor it for some reason.
13:35 * ConfusionRift shrugs.
13:35 <Cepheid> Censorship now is less about whether it's right or wrong in our culture, and more about whether one out of say, 50 people, takes offense to something.
13:36 <Cepheid> If even one person takes offense, it has to change.
13:36 <Cepheid> It's gotten so bad that I've seen cases where censorship was averted by clever wordplay.
13:36 * ConfusionRift is now staring at Mother 3 for some reason.
13:36 <Cepheid> Heh.
13:37 <Cepheid> If I worked for a big-name company, fine. I'll make it so assets can be changed for censorship, if the higher-ups demand it. It's not a choice I'm allowed to make. I can raise a concern about it, but whether they listen is not known.
13:37 <ConfusionRift> That was some other can of worms, but still. It gets ridiculous sometimes.
13:37 <Cepheid> But if I worked for myself, I would use as many ways as possible to circumvent the rules and regulations.
13:38 <Cepheid> I'd even encourage it, if I somehow lead a company.
13:38 <Cepheid> Find ways to keep as much content in as possible, without censoring it. Use wordplay, insinuations, and the like.
13:38 * ConfusionRift points at some of the older NIS games.
13:38 <Cepheid> Or, as a last ditch effort, encourage folks to buy the unmodified version from the company's store.
13:39 <Cepheid> Ala Sekai Project.
13:39 <Cepheid> A lot of their games are encountering issues regarding censorship for the Steam platform. But they offer either patches to change it, or unmodified versions on their store webfront.
13:41 <Cepheid> I'll BRB. Need water.
13:44 <Cepheid> Anyhow, all that said, I'm not sure I'll encounter any real need to censor the games I am designing and making right now.
13:44 <Cepheid> At worst, the thing that's likely to cause trouble is usage of language.
13:44 <Cepheid> I fully expect at least one character to have a sailor's mouth.
13:45 <ConfusionRift> Oh noooo. Not verbal profanity! My innocent ears. -_-
13:45 <Cepheid> There are some *STUPID* rules surrounding it.
13:45 <Cepheid> Apparently, on TV, you can only drop one F bomb per episode, among other things. Same goes for movies.
13:46 <Cepheid> And even then, if language like that is used in the show, it has to be aired after a certain time to avoid censorship.
13:46 <Cepheid> Otherwise, it either gets bleeped out, or silenced.
13:46 <ConfusionRift> I know. There's a point where profanity would alter the content's rating for older audience.
13:46 <Cepheid> Or they remove entire scenes. *Glares at stations that air modified versions of Spaceballs.*
13:46 <Cepheid> I mean, why would you remove the BEST SCENE!?
13:47 * ConfusionRift laughs at that.
13:47 <Cepheid> "How many Assholes do we have on this ship anyways?" *Everyone stands up* "YO!"
13:47 <ConfusionRift> It would censor a good majority of the movie.
13:48 <Cepheid> They cut out that entire scene.
13:48 <Cepheid> "I knew it, I'm surrounded by Assholes."
13:48 <Cepheid> *Gets banned*
13:49 <ConfusionRift> Peh. That's no fun. Like when I first saw Happy Gilmore on a public family station. They would just cut the profanity with an audio clip of someone saying a similar word.
13:50 <ConfusionRift> "Seamless!" | "Rather intuitive!" | I think you meant dumb. Yeah, completely dumb.
13:51 <Cepheid> "Who is he?" "He's an Asshole, sir." "I know that, what's his name!?" "That is his name, sir. Asshole, Major Asshole." "And his cousin?" "He's an asshole too, sir. Gunner's Mate, First Class Philip Asshole." "How many Assholes we got on this ship anyhow?" *Everyone stands up* "Yo!" "I knew it, I'm surrounded by assholes!"
13:51 <Cepheid> "Keep firing, Assholes!"
13:51 <Cepheid> Literally my favourite scene, besides Mr. Coffee and the recursion scene.
13:51 * ConfusionRift changes Cepheid's rating to NC-17.
13:51 <ConfusionRift> :P
13:51 <Cepheid> Strangely...
13:51 <Cepheid> They don't censor the combing the desert scene.
13:51 <Cepheid> "We ain't find ****."
13:52 <ConfusionRift> They could have easily cut that part.
13:52 <Cepheid> Indeed.
13:52 <Cepheid> But they didn't.
13:52 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, when Canadian channels show the movie, it's uncensored. Our regulations regarding swearing is a bit more... relaxed.
13:53 <Cepheid> Jerry Springer would get censored before 9 PM, but after that, there would be no need for it.
13:53 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, you'll hear people drop curse words on the local news stations, radio stations, and other types of TV shows.
13:53 <Cepheid> Seems most everything up to the F-word is acceptable.
13:54 <Cepheid> The radio is probably the worst of all the mediums.
13:54 <ConfusionRift> I say, if I run a family friendly station, I would run family friendly content. I DON'T understand why they bring mature content to those stations just so they butcher about half of it.
13:54 <Cepheid> They'll talk about things ranging from the innocuous all the way up to things people do in the bedroom, with other people or by themselves.
13:54 <Cepheid> At 7 in the morning.
13:54 <ConfusionRift> ...
13:54 <Cepheid> I'm not kidding.
13:54 <Cepheid> And it's not just the men on the radio stations that do it.
13:55 <Cepheid> The women do it too.
13:55 <Cepheid> They just talk about whatever comes to mind when they report certain stories.
13:55 <Cepheid> Up here, there's a station that does something called "The Good, The Bad and The Ugly" at 7:30 AM every morning.
13:56 <Cepheid> They pick out the best good/funny story, one bad/sad story, and one outright outrageously evil story.
13:56 <Cepheid> One such story a few days ago for The Bad, was about how a guy had to go to the hospital because he got his... you know, stuck in an innocuous object not meant for that.
13:56 <Cepheid> They started discussing all the ways that could have happened, and *WHY*.
13:57 <Cepheid> It's the kind of conversation that would make an entire church go into a murderous frenzy.
13:57 <ConfusionRift> "El Vacilon de la Mañana". This was a morning station that would talk of nothing but adult stuff. And yes, bedroom and mischief stories included.
13:58 <ConfusionRift> They talked about that sort of stuff as well.
13:58 <ConfusionRift> sorry, morning program.
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13:59 <Cepheid> But yeah, outside of those stories, the language rules aren't in effect either.
13:59 <Cepheid> You'll hear the occasional curse word.
14:00 <Cepheid> It also happens on the local news stations on TV.
14:00 <ConfusionRift> Oh wow, it ran at 6am... wait... correction... it is still running at 6am.
14:00 <Cepheid> I recall a few S and SOB references in regards to the bus accident a couple weeks ago.
14:00 <Cepheid> On radio and TV.
14:00 <Cepheid> It was bad.
14:00 <ConfusionRift> Wow, this thing was established in 2003.
14:00 <Cepheid> They only recently started covering some of the long-term effects of it.
14:01 <Cepheid> 13 dead, several people with amputations, some with double-amputations.
14:01 <Cepheid> In particular, a woman who had only just come out of a coma, having learned she had a double amputation, both legs.
14:01 <ConfusionRift> Oh right, the bus accident.
14:01 <Cepheid> As for what happened, a double-decker bus lost control and slammed into a bus station overhang.
14:01 <Cepheid> People on the upper level in the front suffered severe injury, some dying.
14:02 <Cepheid> The rest suffered severe bruising, broken bones, concussions.
14:02 <Cepheid> Apparently the driver was on probation.
14:02 <Cepheid> She got into an accident a few months prior.
14:02 <Cepheid> So there's a lot of... Let's just say anger and hatred towards OC Transpo right now.
14:02 <Cepheid> And more cropping up because they just announced a fare hike.
14:03 <ConfusionRift> "The driver was on ______" has been like the thing to say over there huh.
14:03 <Cepheid> 2.5%
14:03 <Cepheid> Yeah.
14:03 <Cepheid> The drivers are... how shall we say...
14:03 <Cepheid> I want to say assholes, but that's unfair to all the Assholes in Spaceballs.
14:03 <ConfusionRift> You kinda already explained their... diversity, to put it gently.
14:04 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.
14:04 <Cepheid> It ranges from polite, decent folk, to downright insidious and dangerous folks.
14:04 <Cepheid> But yeah, OC Transpo's been under a lot of flak these last few years.
14:04 <Cepheid> First the accident involving a train, wherein the driver post-humously got off scot free despite all evidence showing he was distracted while doing his job.
14:05 <ConfusionRift> Well, if they keep getting the same kinda people, what is it they're expecting?
14:05 <Cepheid> Then the LRT project constantly being delayed, and accruing fines for the city overall, causing taxes and fares to be raised in order to pay off the fines.
14:05 <ConfusionRift> "The train moved into my lane and hit me."
14:05 <Cepheid> Then this, followed by another fare hike to pay for further fines and legal fees for OC Transpo.
14:06 <Cepheid> Indeed, Rifty.
14:06 <Cepheid> They successfully argued that the CCTV display in the bus had distracted him.
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14:06 <Cepheid> The train crossing was investigated itself to see if there was any problems. There wasn't. It functioned, it was loud and obvious.
14:07 <ConfusionRift> Or course. Just as a mosquito is considered distracting enough to send a bus into a river.
14:07 <Cepheid> And yet the bus still continued forward, slammed through one of the barriers, stopped over the tracks, and apparently made no attempt to back up.
14:08 <ConfusionRift> I don't think it was a distraction. I think there was something else in the middle.
14:08 <Cepheid> VIA was blamed for it, if I recall.
14:08 <Cepheid> Unfortunately, there's no way to tell.
14:08 <ConfusionRift> Of course. -_-
14:08 <Cepheid> The bus driver was killed by the impact, along with the people standing next to him.
14:08 <Cepheid> Which by the way is supposed to be illegal under the highway traffic act.
14:09 * ConfusionRift nods.
14:09 <Cepheid> Bus drivers continually violate that part of the act. They're supposed to have clear view to the left and right, but they regularly cram as many people on as possible, often resulting in people standing in the spot that people are not supposed to be standing in.
14:09 <ConfusionRift> There should be no one standing on a moving vehicle.
14:09 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.
14:09 <Cepheid> But the busses are designed for that, so..
14:09 <Cepheid> I'm more concerned about the fact that it's just a matter of time before someone standing in that spot causes an accident.
14:11 <ConfusionRift> Yes, so on a long trip, one can move and sit somewhere else while on the go. But not to just stand there through the trip, ESPECIALLY in front of view points.
14:12 <ConfusionRift> Front, driver's left, driver's right, and rear.
14:13 <Cepheid> My major concern is mostly in the drivers, though.
14:13 <ConfusionRift> LEGALLY a driver can move to the side and park till the people goes back to their seats. And cramming is just asking for trouble. I know we know, but it's just... I don't have a commercial license and I know this!
14:14 <Cepheid> A lot of them fail to start their routes on time.
14:14 <ConfusionRift> And then there's that.
14:14 <Cepheid> This leads to stuff like being well-behind schedule.
14:14 <Cepheid> Which translates to drivers taking dangerous actions to make up for the lost time.
14:15 * ConfusionRift slowly nods.
14:17 * Cepheid has to run again, all those fluids are running through him. >.>
14:18 <ConfusionRift> I should be sleeping, especially sick. (sighs) Will talk at some point. See ya laters! :P
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14:19 <Cepheid> Also sorry for all the talking and rambling. I've been aware that it has been happening a lot as of late. I think it is a quirk being made more apparent with my meds. Doesn't help that I have been taking in a lot of caffeine as of late.
14:22 * Finwe sporadically noms on Duck.
14:27 <Cepheid> Again, thank you for last night, Finwe.
14:27 <Cepheid> I'm sorry for being an annoyance, you're not a tutor or a TA, and I should be asking my professor or a TA for help, but..
14:27 <Cepheid> Many of my problems occur at times where I can't get ahold of either to begin with, and to be honest, I don't trust or like TAs.
14:28 <Cepheid> And the professor would just direct me to the TAs, then actually help me.
14:28 <Cepheid> And lastly, I consider you to be better at mathematics than the lot of them combined anyways.
14:34 <Cepheid> I still don't know how someone could put up with this kind of stuff, though.
14:35 <Cepheid> But then, that's why I'm the computer scientist, and you're the mathematician.
14:38 <Cepheid> This wifi network man..
14:38 <Cepheid> What the hell is wrong with it? ITS is dropping the ball.
14:39 <Finwe> You're welcome. I hope it was of some help.
14:42 <Cepheid> You were. After my episode, mental health be damned I continued on the thing that stressed me. Your help cleared up some misconceptions. While it didn't directly solve the problem, it did help me think outside the box a bit.
14:42 <Cepheid> Even though the root problem should have been an inside-the-box issue.
14:43 <Cepheid> How in the hell could I forget that 1 / (a / b) is equal to b / a?
14:44 <Cepheid> 1 / (a / b) can be seen as (1 / 1) / (a / b) and the division of two fractions is performed by mutiplying the numerator by the inverse of the denominator. That was how I managed to remember that little rule.
14:50 <Cepheid> I guess when I don't utilize stuff, I forget it.
14:50 <Cepheid> And yet, this seems like the kind of thing I'd use often, since floating point mathematics on a computer has issues.
14:50 <Cepheid> And such rules and laws allow me to reduce or change an algorithm from floating-point to integer mathematics.
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14:52 <Cepheid> りゅさん、おはよう～。
15:01 <Cepheid> ...
15:02 <Cepheid> Literally, I can stay connected to services, but any attempt to use the web for anything other than IRC is impossible.
15:14 <Finwe> Indeed, anything not in daily use easily falls into long term memory.
15:16 <Cepheid> Indeed.
15:17 <Cepheid> The most likely math I am to use is any sort of mathematics that can change an algorithm around from floating-point mathematics to integer mathematics, as the former is slower than the latter by a large margin.
15:17 <Cepheid> Bresenham Line Algorithm is an example.
15:18 <Cepheid> It basically changes the mathematics around such that the slope-intercept formula for drawing a line on a graph is performed using integer mathematics.
15:18 <Cepheid> With no divisions or multiplies.
15:19 <Cepheid> ...
15:19 <Cepheid> I'm starting to think someone is running a device that interferes with wireless signals in this building.
15:19 <Cepheid> I'm getting connection issues even with LTE.
15:22 <Cepheid> I'm not even remotely a beginner in electronics, but is it possible to create a device that broadcasts garbage across the entire 2.4GHz band, alongside the frequency range used for 3G, 4G and 5G for phones?
15:26 <Cepheid> I need to go eat.
15:27 <Finwe> I think it is, but it's not very legal.
15:27 <Finwe> At least if the transmission power is high.
15:33 <Cepheid> These are students. Half of the stuff they do is questionable in nature.
15:33 <Cepheid> Mmm. Scrambled eggs with sriracha sauce. Never tried it, but they smell good.
15:35 <Cepheid> They were delicious.
15:37 <Finwe> Anything with sriracha sauce is delicious. o3
15:37 <Finwe> o
15:39 <Cepheid> Might even work on these sausage patties. I like them, but they are way too salty. Can't eat more than three at a time.
15:42 <Cepheid> You know. Knowing how different I am outside of IRC, I wonder how the majority of you folks behave outside of IRC.
15:43 <Finwe> The main difference is that I don't have my fingers on a keyboard.
15:44 <Cepheid> Outside of IRC, I tend to be shy. I still talk a lot when hyped up on caffeine or when a topic interests me. But besides that, I can't hold still. Ask me to stand still, I'll often start dancing(swaying, usually) to a song I am listening to, or one in my head, to keep me moving.
15:45 <Cepheid> I often also want to dance as I move, but I avoid it because I don't want people staring at me.
15:45 <Cepheid> Otherwise, you wikl usually find me either in bed reading and occasionally looking at chats, sometimes with my cat next to or on me.
15:46 <Cepheid> Or sitting in a chair, doing stuff on my PC. Usually finding new music, chatting, programming, or playing a game. I shift a lot in my chair.
15:47 <Cepheid> You will also notice minor changes depending on what it is I am doing. Gaming, especially focus-heavy games, like Monster Hunter...
15:48 <Cepheid> I will usually be very intently staring at the screen. I often make motions and faces that give the impression that I am directly the character. Gritting my teeth, facial expressions of rage when utilizing certain attacks. Facial expressions of supreme confidence and power when I pull off certain moves or attacks, or repelling attacks.
15:49 <Cepheid> I am a highly-emotional and empathic individual. I express it through behaviours, thought patterns, and body language.
15:50 <Cepheid> Arguably this is why I am more fond of artwork that expresses emotions, particularly combative and rage-filled ones.
15:50 <Cepheid> ... i have no idea why I just went off on a tangent like that.
16:02 <Cepheid> One quirk of mine that no one has ever seen or heard of, not even my parents or my psychiatrist is a sort of mantra I seem to recite constantly within my head, or verbally when alone. "I am <abstract concept>. I am <opposite of abstract concept>." Most commonly, chaos and order, destruction and creation, life and death, sanity and insanity. All these traits, along with this one, and a belief I hold, are among the reasons I cons
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17:56 <Schism> Cepheid: Using simple operations (brackets, plus and minus, multiplication, division), create the number 10,958 by placing 1-9 in ascending order.
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17:56 <Schism> And exponents too if you prefer. o3o
17:57 <Schism> Or, of course, concatenation is fine, so 12+34 is valid.
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17:58 <Mr`Ed> Greetings
17:58 <Vulpor> Hey Mr. Ed
17:59 <Vulpor> How's Willbur
18:01 <Mr`Ed> I ate him
18:01 <Mr`Ed> He didn't respect my honor and glory and was therefore unworthy of my presence
18:02 <Mr`Ed> Lol jk
18:02 <Mr`Ed> He's designing me a new castle as a metaphysical symbol of my greatness
18:04 <Mr`Ed> It shall be built brick by brick by my loyal followers and trve friends
18:04 <Mr`Ed> How are you
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18:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Fanfiction: Fall Back [ http://tinyurl.com/ybv5yvyh ]
18:07 <Vulpor> Doing good a bit busy but good
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18:23 <Cepheid> Back from class.
18:23 <Cepheid> Exam went okay. Three questions I mysteriously blanked on though.
18:28 <Cepheid> And no thanks, Schism. Had enough math for now.
18:30 <Schism> Always seems to be at least one question we space on.
18:30 * Schism also nodnods.
18:33 <Cepheid> Eh. I passed the exam. So meh.
18:34 <Cepheid> Sides it isn't like I don't know the material. I just blanked and couldn't recall is all.
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18:42 <Cepheid> Tonight I can take a break.
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18:46 <Schism|Adagio> I believe I shall Skyrim it up for a bit.
18:48 <ADragonDreaming> Dovahkiin! Dovahkiin! Naal lok ziin los variin!
18:48 <Cepheid> Keep it under 4GB.
18:48 <ADragonDreaming> But what if I have 32 available?
18:49 <Cepheid> 32-bit process won't be able to use it all.
18:49 <Schism|Adagio> Yeah, I mentioned.
18:49 * Schism|Adagio thankfully does save frequently.
18:49 <Cepheid> 64-bit can. Go crazy. Dunno how the game will handle it though.
18:50 <Cepheid> Max a 32-bit process can use is mmm... 2 or 3GB actually. Depends on Large Address Awareness in Windows.
18:51 <Cepheid> On a 32-bit machine and OS, all having more than 4GB of RAM does is allow more applications to run without paging. Even *then* though...
18:52 <Schism|Adagio> Hmmm. There's a much more substantial Alchemy system in this mod.
18:52 <Schism|Adagio> Aye.
18:52 <ADragonDreaming> Schism|Adagio: I was never able to get into the Alchemy system. Potion buffs in general tend not to grab me.
18:53 <Cepheid> Windows is not known for properly using PAE, if at all.
18:53 <Schism|Adagio> Understandable, but there are plenty of extended buffs in this one too. Speed, for example.
18:53 <Schism|Adagio> Also, alchemy makes explosive arrows. o3o
18:54 <Cepheid> Apparently Windows supported it just fine. It might not use more than 4 though due to licensing issues. Also, drivers didn't work too well with it.
18:55 <Cepheid> Apparently, none of the 32-bit Windows versions available to the general populace supported more than 4GB.
18:56 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Gameleon: Equestria Girls: Spring Breakdown Special Airs March 30 [ http://tinyurl.com/ycneve6t ]
18:56 <Cepheid> And this was because of driver issues.
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18:57 <Cepheid> Rather than have manufacturers fix the driver issues, they just decided "nah, don't let people use more than 4GB on a 32-bit machine."
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19:01 <Schism|Adagio> Makes perfect sense. (Sheesh.)
19:02 <Schism|Adagio> It's a pity that money has weight in this mod. o3o
19:03 <Schism|Adagio> I mean, one should be allowed to carry around 50,000 gold coins without any change in posture.
19:03 <ADragonDreaming> Sooooo, turn that off?
19:04 <Schism|Adagio> Nah, I don't honestly mind it so much.
19:04 <Schism|Adagio> Besides, I have the Bandoliers mod to increase carry capacity anyway.
19:04 <ADragonDreaming> Thought: If one discovers they have time travel powers, the first order of business is to discover methods to halt the aging process.
19:06 <Schism|Adagio> True, though keeping telemeres from degrading is a bit of a tricky bit.
19:11 <Schism|Adagio> Oh, that's nice. I can safely test certain ingredients because I'm too strong for the negative effects.
19:13 * Schism|Adagio subsequently eats 50 different ingredients.
19:13 <Schism|Adagio> This was a good *urp* idea.
19:15 <ADragonDreaming> yes.
19:15 <ADragonDreaming> Second thought: if the selves are allowed to meet with your time powers, you can be your own army.
19:16 <Schism|Adagio> There were interesting results when they did that in Homestuck.
19:16 <Schism|Adagio> But that comic plays by different rules all in all.
19:22 <Schism|Adagio> Lessee. May as well look around and see what I can disenchant.
19:23 <Schism|Adagio> Ooh, soul trap weapon. Yoink.
19:28 <Cepheid> Dude. Speak up. I can't hear you. It isn't like our school group project is secret or anything.
19:28 <Cepheid> Blah. I hate it when peopls are soft-spoken.
19:30 <Schism|Adagio> This smithing is going to get a bit insane, heh.
19:30 <Cepheid> Interesting. Unless made large address aware, even 64-bit applications on Windows x64 cannot use more than 2/3 GB of RAM.
19:31 <Schism|Adagio> Of course, sometimes that can be one way to preclude them from taking 16 gigs at once.
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19:31 <Cepheid> By default though, large address aware is enabled when designing 64-bit apps.
19:32 <Cepheid> But if you turn it off, you are being stupid.
19:32 <LibrarianofHope> sup
19:32 <LibrarianofHope> got a higher doze of xanax owo
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19:43 <Cepheid> Nnngghh...
19:43 <Cepheid> My stomach.
19:44 <LibrarianofHope> you too?
19:44 <Cepheid> I got into an argument with the prof over how and when students started their project, arguing some of the fault lies with the TA and the implied nature of progression.
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19:45 <Cepheid> I kept my cool, but my stomach feels like it is about to implode from keeping my stress and anger in control.
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19:47 <Cepheid> Gods it hurts. It's like someone stabbed me in the stomach.
19:47 <LibrarianofHope> i felt like i was dying ib the morning, xanax helped
19:47 <LibrarianofHope> try that?
19:49 <Cepheid> I do have my seraquell, yes. I think. I don't think i have any on hand right now.
19:51 <LibrarianofHope> go for a walk
19:51 <LibrarianofHope> it will reduce your stress
20:02 <Cepheid> I'm calm now. My stomach is fine now. But I am twitching.
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20:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Hats [ http://tinyurl.com/yc2seebg ]
20:11 * Schism|Adagio boops the Ali with a slice of raspberry pie with half-melted vanilla ice cream.
20:11 * Ali flops over Schism and yawns
20:14 * Schism|Adagio also yawnles.
20:14 <Schism|Adagio> Hmm. White River Watch - lovely bandits there. Turning that wolf on them is always fun.
20:28 <LibrarianofHope> Ali!
20:28 <LibrarianofHope> wassa!
20:28 <Ali> wassa?
20:28 <LibrarianofHope> wassa
20:28 * Ali kirinheadtilts
20:29 <LibrarianofHope> im feeling old now, ali did not got the reference
20:29 <LibrarianofHope> i is oldie boi
20:29 <Schism|Adagio> Chillin'. Killin' trolls.
20:30 <Schism|Adagio> Ali: A Bud commercial which became a meme, from a Super Bowl of yore.
20:31 <Ali> I know wassaaaaappp
20:31 <Ali> But not wassa
20:35 <Schism|Adagio> Hum. Well, two dungeons, then it's back to town to drop off the profound quantity of loot, loot, endless loot. Also, found a bow that belongs to someone, hmm.
20:36 * Schism|Adagio disassembles fur armor, melts down all the iron, steel, and the like.
20:38 <LibrarianofHope> my mistake
20:39 <LibrarianofHope> wassa unclear, will wassap
20:45 <Schism|Adagio> Ah, Froki's Bow needn't be returned to him. Good to know.
20:50 <Schism|Adagio> ... Calcelmo, why are you asking me about a dwarven metal ingot? This is not a legendary artifact. It's not even an artifact. It's a lump of bronze.
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21:03 <Cepheid> Bloody teachers. Don't know common sense from reality.
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21:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #2885 [ http://tinyurl.com/y92oleo3 ]
21:07 * Ali hugs the Cepheid
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21:19 * Schism|Adagio enters the Underforge. o3o "And now, to obtain perfect immunity to disease."
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21:20 <Schism|Adagio> (and maybe kill Heimskr.)
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21:44 <LibrarianofHope> my head is killing me
21:44 <LibrarianofHope> this anxiety stuff is hard
21:44 <Thelema5> Weird. It's usually keeping you alive
21:45 <LibrarianofHope> i had a panic attack in the morning
21:45 <LibrarianofHope> and a tension migraine at the moment
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22:03 * Cepheid flops home.
22:03 * Cepheid eye twitches.
22:03 * Schism places a cat on Cepheid's head.
22:03 <Schism> How bad was OCTranspo today?
22:04 <Cepheid> So-so.
22:04 <Cepheid> Got smacked on the head by another passenger.
22:04 <Schism> EGh.
22:05 <Cepheid> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6677935/Essentially-frozen-cat-saved-vets-buried-snow.html
22:09 <LibrarianofHope> i have always been strressed and anxious, but you can get sick from it?
22:09 <Cepheid> Yes
22:09 <Cepheid> It impacts the immune system.
22:16 <LibrarianofHope> i really want a robot body
22:16 <LibrarianofHope> no headaches, that be nice
22:17 <Cepheid> Same.
22:18 <Cepheid> I want doctors to try experimental procedures on me to solve the sinus issues. I want a biopsy done, otherwise. There's got to be something that explains it that's not an allergen, because, well..
22:18 <Cepheid> I take antihistamines to deal with allergies, but they do nothing for my headaches. Only anti-inflammatories work.
22:20 <Cepheid> https://www.reddit.com/r/aww/comments/ao5igy/service_doggo_walks_on_glass_floor_for_the_first/?st=jrv6oted&sh=bea51a09 Schism
22:21 <Schism> I know how that doggo feels.
22:22 <Cepheid> If I were that trainer, I'd have bags and papertowls and such on hand.
22:22 <LibrarianofHope> probably has
22:23 <LibrarianofHope> the doggo must have been thrilled to lear he could lkevitate
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22:25 <LibrarianofHope> i just did the breath into a bag gag
22:25 * Ali flops onto Fall
22:25 <LibrarianofHope> its a geniune recovery method
22:26 <Fall> Hellew
22:26 <LibrarianofHope> hoi
22:26 <LibrarianofHope> do you know ancient irish rituals for headaches?
22:26 <Cepheid> LibrarianofHope, that just induces hyperventilation. In the long run it'll make matters worse.
22:28 <LibrarianofHope> the doctor told me too
22:29 <Cepheid> Hum.
22:29 <Cepheid> I've been told hyperventilation worsens stress.
22:30 <LibrarianofHope> it did help a bit
22:30 <LibrarianofHope> i swore of spicy foods
22:31 <LibrarianofHope> and i need a stomach doctor to check me
22:31 <LibrarianofHope> i probably have ulcers
22:42 <Cepheid> I am actually so exhausted right now I don't even want to play a game.
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22:49 <Cepheid> Just lay down and read.
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22:58 <Cepheid> Mr. Zed. Mr. X's lesser known brother who tip-toes around, then
22:59 <Cepheid> scares the hell out of you whenever you open that door.
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23:04 <LibrarianofHope> i have the worst luck
23:04 <LibrarianofHope> just about to recover from my headache, my dad randomly accuses me of stealing 200 bucks
23:05 <LibrarianofHope> i did steal him like 5 years ago and apologized profusely
23:05 <LibrarianofHope> he never let it go and keeps accusing me randomly
23:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend - Equestria Girls / Anthro MLP Art Gallery #82 [ http://tinyurl.com/yanrydqt ]
23:07 <Cepheid> O.o
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23:09 <LibrarianofHope> suddenly my panic makes sense right?
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23:18 <LibrarianofHope> weirdly enough i feel much better after i exploded and began screaming
23:18 <LibrarianofHope> i vented at least
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23:40 <LibrarianofHope> i could use a nap
23:45 <Cepheid> That tends to happen after mental breaks yeah. All that venting is tiring among other things.
23:46 * Cepheid sits atop the dreamin' dragon.
23:48 * LibrarianofHope polishes da dragon
23:51 <Mr`Ed> Hello
23:52 <Schism|Adagio> Death to all vampires!
23:52 * Schism|Adagio enchants his crossbow with a Dawn bonus.
23:57 <LibrarianofHope> hoi
23:58 <LibrarianofHope> dont kill all vampires
23:58 <LibrarianofHope> some are nice
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