Log archive of EquestriaDaily for Tuesday, 2019-02-19

00:06 * Ali flops over RazorSharpFang

00:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: New "Essential Handbook - A Magical Guide for Everypony" MLP Book Appears [ http://tinyurl.com/yxmrxb23 ]

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00:28 * ADragonDreaming headpats PinkieShy belatedly

00:40 <ADragonDreaming> hm. I had yet to put dosbox on this box.

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00:47 <Cepheid> Hmm?

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01:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Patreon Supporters - Please Submit Your OC Ponies for the OC Hall of Fame! - Plus General Patreon Updates [ http://tinyurl.com/y66c6qpg ]

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01:50 <Cepheid> Gurgh.  I think I ate or drank something bad today.

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02:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1715 [ http://tinyurl.com/yxtx3ur8 ]

02:10 <Cepheid> I... don't fully understand what this professor wants me to submit for this project assignment, given that none of it matches up in any way, shape or form that makes sense.

02:11 <Cepheid> We're tasked with picking a problem to be solved, so we did.  Then we analyzed the problem, interviewed folks, and designed a protoype.  Simple enough.

02:12 <Cepheid> She wanted us to then take the STATIC IMAGERY PROTOTYPE and apply a Wizard-of-Oz test with users on it, that is, have the users make use of the STATIC IMAGERY PROTOTYPE, and then have the STATIC IMAGERY PROTOTYPE respond to user input.  Emphasis added.

02:13 <Cepheid> Finally, she wants each of us to go through our STATIC IMAGERY PROTOTYPE and use the STATIC IMAGERY PROTOTYPE to figure out if there's any issues that crop up as we poke at the STATIC IMAGERY PROTOTYPE, and then comment on these issues.

02:13 <Cepheid> She wants us to apply HCI techniques to static imagery.  PNGs.  Images.

02:13 <Cepheid> While some do work with that kind of stuff..

02:13 <Cepheid> The idea of using static images to test a program is..

02:14 <Cepheid> There's a type of prototyping that does allow us to do what she's asking, but, the problem?  None of the prior requirements mention using that form of prototyping.

02:14 <Cepheid> Because the project is not supposed to involve any sort of coding.

02:14 <Cepheid> And yet, to do what she is asking us to do, we'd have to code a prototype or application that drives a prototype.

02:15 <Cepheid> There's no way to "win" this problem.

02:15 <Cepheid> She has given us conflicting instructions for an assignment, in such a way that it cannot be completed satisfactorily.

02:21 <PinkieShy> Dang it.. >.> Time got away from me..

02:22 <PinkieShy> I was going to shave my legs before it got cold again.. It was in the 60s today and 40s tonight..

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02:36 <DashedRainbows> Yeah it's cold

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02:50 <Cepheid> ADragonDreaming:  How'd MonHan go last night after I left?

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02:59 <ADragonDreaming> Oh, I stopped shortly after.

03:00 <Cepheid> Ah.

03:00 <Cepheid> Sorry I couldn't do it tonight.  School work and stomach rumblies.

03:00 <ADragonDreaming> no worries

03:00 <Cepheid> ... Though I suppose you had D&D tonight, I believe?

03:01 <Cepheid> I am assuming this based on last week, mind.

03:01 <ADragonDreaming> yes though one player decided to drop out and now it's scheduled for wednesdays

03:02 <Cepheid> Ah.

03:03 <Cepheid> I'd like to try playing, but I seem to have a habit of just slowly disappearing off the edge of a cliff over time.  Though that could potentially be an ADHD thing, and might not be as much an issue now.

03:03 <Cepheid> Basically, when I do something, I like to do it relatively frequently.  Once every couple of days.  A weekly or monthly thing causes me to lose interest rapidly.

03:04 <ADragonDreaming> ah

03:05 <Cepheid> But that's also atypical of ADHD, apparently.  You get distracted by other-  Ooh, what's that shiny on the ground?

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03:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Applejack Music: Budzy - Influences [Drum & Bass] [ http://tinyurl.com/y6geo2pa ]

03:08 * Cepheid picks it up. It's a Large Wyvern Tear.

03:09 <ADragonDreaming> huzzah!

03:25 * Cepheid gets steamrolled by the Uragaan.

03:25 * Cepheid gets up. Gets steamrolled again. Gets up again, a rock landed nearby and explodes

03:26 * Cepheid ends up being dragged back via cart.

03:33 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zzLffJDv9Y

03:33 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

03:34 * Schism flies over to the Diadem.

03:37 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about MHWorld Shots: Zorah Magdaros in a nutshell

03:40 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdlMeJgvkIQ This is... reasonably accurate.

03:40 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

03:40 <Cepheid> Me and ADra tried to fight Spiky Boi the other night.  It didn't end well.

03:44 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about MHWorld shots: Nergigante in a nutshell

03:49 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMlAEZ3ALq8

03:49 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

03:49 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about MHWorld Shots: \"I understood that reference\"

04:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Animatic: A Grim Winter [ http://tinyurl.com/y4k8nxgq ]

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05:25 <Schism> Ah, there's something delightful about dominoes.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0jeohWnmAQ

05:25 * Ali tips Schism over

05:28 * Schism tips over, falling into another changeling, which also tips over. Repeat.

05:28 <Ali> Changling dominoes~

05:35 * Ali then scoops up all the changlings, including Schism and snuggles them all.

05:45 * Ali thinks the collective of lings are ko'd

05:49 <Finwe> Good morning, everypony!

05:50 <Finwe> Miss Ali, Mr Schism.

05:50 * Finwe doffs his hat.

05:50 * Ali doffs over Finwe and yawns

05:53 * Finwe puts some yoghurt into Ali's gaping muzzle.

05:53 * Ali squeaks

05:53 <Schism> Ali: Also, oh dear.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NCNem1xfXU

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05:54 * Ali nuzzles Schism and Finwe

05:55 * Schism offers Ali some roasted potatoes and onions.

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06:00 * Ali noms on Schism instead

06:00 * Schism flailyhooves, is not food himself! Besides, these potatoes are roasted with brown sugar.

06:07 <Schism> Also, rAdm. Finwe.

06:07 * Schism doffs his pear with smoked stilton.

06:10 * PinkieShy offer Schism and Ali a glass of Chocolate or Strawberry milk

06:11 * Ali takes the chocolate milk

06:31 * Schism creates a magnificent death trap, then replaces the on switch with a run of dominoes.

06:37 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Equestria Girls Season 2 Episode 7 - ??? - Stream / Discussion [ http://tinyurl.com/y3lou5ht ]

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06:40 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.

06:47 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Applejack Music: Budzy - Influences [Drum & Bass] [ http://tinyurl.com/y6geo2pa ]

06:47 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Animatic: A Grim Winter [ http://tinyurl.com/y4k8nxgq ]

06:47 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Friendship is Magic - '???' Official Short #3 [ http://tinyurl.com/y493nlhk ]

06:48 * Ali flops over ConfusionRift

06:50 * ConfusionRift patpats Ali. :P

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06:55 * Golden flops.

06:55 * ConfusionRift flops as well. Everypony be floppin'.

06:57 * Schism flops... on a bug. It has swords.

07:01 <ConfusionRift> ...ouch. Is that a nail?

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07:02 <Ali> Could be

07:04 <Schism> ConfusionRift: Beating the boss of the conjoined temples... was a pain.

07:05 <ConfusionRift> Which one?

07:05 <Schism> The final one, the pair.

07:05 <ConfusionRift> ALttP?

07:05 <Schism> Oh, no, CrossCode.

07:05 <Schism> Well.  Beating that wasn't the issue.  Doing so in time to beat Emelie to the end, that was a nuisance.

07:05 <ConfusionRift> Ooooh.

07:05 <ConfusionRift> Well, you know how I feel about the race. :P

07:06 <Schism> Yeah, yeah.

07:06 <Schism> Now that I've gotten that achievement, maybe I'll do a relaxing jaunt instead, next time.

07:06 <ConfusionRift> But hey, you got it.

07:06 <ConfusionRift> So... you have officially beaten the game?

07:08 <ConfusionRift> I couldn't do much process last night. May get to that in a bit.

07:08 <Schism> I have not yet.

07:08 <Schism> I'm also kinda distracted by FFXIV, want a few things done before rollover.

07:09 <ConfusionRift> Haven't done the extra stuff in KH3... hmmmmmm.

07:16 <ConfusionRift> ...nah. I have zero motivation for that.

07:17 <ConfusionRift> Gonna go for CrossCode.

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07:43 <ConfusionRift> "You know, they're just spiders. No big-" | (grabs the spider, with a electricity coming from her eyes) Lea. [That spider was dead as soon as Lea saw it.]

07:44 <Schism> "Why would I be scared of them, Tronny?  They're just spiders."

07:46 <ConfusionRift> I can see his face of "wait... huh?".

08:53 <Koopz> "Do you have an internet café here?

08:53 <Koopz> "uh... nope"

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08:56 <Koopz> ended up printing a copy of a passport of some guy from Togo

08:57 <Koopz> barely spoke our language, his phone language on french... weird keyboard layout

08:57 <Ali> Not a qwerty?

08:58 <Koopz> http://xahlee.info/kbd/french_keyboard_layout.html AZERTY

08:58 <Koopz> we germans use QWERTZ

08:59 <Ali> That's a strange keyboard

08:59 * Ali noms on Koopz shell

09:00 <Koopz> letter-wise the only difference between QWERTZ and QWERTY is Y and Z being switched... and all special chars like dots, commas and everything on Shift + Numbers is somewhere else

09:00 <Koopz> but this...

09:01 <Koopz> fortunately phone keyboards display the alternatives

09:01 * Ali boops Koopz

09:02 <Koopz> so i didn't struggle as much trying to input something like i usually do when i have a QWERTZ keyboard connected a server running a freshly installed version of linux which assumes QWERTY

09:03 <Koopz> "where the heck did they put the backslash again?!"

09:03 <Ali> So its morning over there in europe land?

09:03 <Koopz> 10 am

09:03 * Koopz counterboops Ali

09:04 * Ali squeaks, she's at 4am!

09:05 <Koopz> yankee

09:05 <Koopz> o3o

09:05 <Koopz> go to bed

09:06 * Ali doesn't go to bed!

09:07 * ConfusionRift boops Ali. :P

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09:08 * Ali boops ConfusionRift back

09:14 * Koopz concentrates his power into his index finger and boops Ali into bed

09:16 * Ali doesn't think Koopz is the All Might Sucessor and her magic barrier protects her with admin power! :P

09:19 <Koopz> o.o sasuga Ali-sama

09:22 <Ali> Nani?

09:28 * Ali doesn't understand Koopz so she just boops

09:34 <Koopz> "As to be expected from Ali-sama"

09:37 * Surreal_Nightmares snugglies into Koopz

09:37 * Koopz pets Surreal_Nightmares and covers her in a blanket

09:40 * Schism wins a round with a full flush, akadora.

09:40 <Schism> That was just silly.  I was the only one in the round who got anywhere /near/ 6 han.

09:41 *** Surreal_Nightmares is now known as Filly_Nightmares

09:41 * Filly_Nightmares mewls at Koopz for snugglies

09:41 * Ali boops Filly_Nightmares with a mango

09:47 * Filly_Nightmares mewls at Ali

09:47 * Ali gives Filly_Nightmares the mango

09:51 * Schism offers Filly_Nightmares some choklit in which to dip the mango!

09:56 <ConfusionRift> Chocolate? Did you say... chocolate?!

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10:13 * Filly_Nightmares noms Schism for warms and snugglies

10:14 * Filly_Nightmares is cold floofy

10:14 * Schism pours tea into floof, and snugs, and wraps in dryer-warm blankets.

10:14 * Filly_Nightmares purrs at Schism and latches onto his chest

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10:33 * Schism also offers Filly_Nightmares some extra-warm cream of wheat.

10:34 * Filly_Nightmares licks up the soup and licks Schism nosie

10:35 <Schism> Is not soop!  Is porridge.

10:54 * Koopz yawns and sticks some matchsticks between his eyelids

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11:01 <Schism> RSF: "Wait, why isn't Waltzing Matilda our national anthem?  Everyone knows it." --in which students grumble about only knowing the first verse of the Aussie national anthem, while being forced to memorize the rest.

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11:05 <Koopz> better than making one of the verses forbidden o.o

11:06 <Koopz> i guess we're kind of an exception though :P

11:11 <Koopz> well... not forbidden, but only the 3rd verse of 3 verses are our national anthem now... you're getting weird looks if you sing the first 2

11:17 <Finwe> Capt Koopz.

11:17 <Finwe> o7

11:17 <Schism> rAdm. Finwe.

11:17 * Schism doffs his pair of East winds.

11:17 <Koopz> RAdm. Finwe o7

11:17 <Finwe> Mr Schism.

11:17 * Finwe doffs his hat.

11:18 <Finwe> Oh, and Miss Filly_Nightmares.

11:18 * Finwe doffs his hat.

11:20 <Koopz> yesterday i completed my equipment set for the Maelstrom... Ladies and gentlemen, let me introduce you to Storm Captain Koopz Calamity http://koopz.rocks/s/2019-02-19_12-18-16.png

11:20 <Koopz> (that's a bow on his back by the way)

11:21 <Schism> Hmmm.  That's... I should recognize that bow.

11:21 <ConfusionRift> Hmm, game?

11:21 <Schism> Also, yeesh, is that Jet Black dye you used?

11:21 <Schism> Or is that just the standard Maelstrom attire?

11:21 <Koopz> Final Fantasy 14

11:22 <Koopz> i don't think you can color Grand Company clothing

11:22 <ConfusionRift> Well, makes sense now. :P

11:22 <Schism> It... hmm.  On the one hand, I think it should be dyeable, but on the other... well, GCs do have their own clothing lines.

11:22 <Schism> Koopz: Of course, as sharp as those threads look, they're nothing compared to the glory of Amon's Set.

11:24 <Koopz> Amon's hat is glorious

11:24 <Koopz> gotta admit though that it might be a bit too much for a Lalafell to wear

11:25 <Schism> Well, maybe.

11:26 <Schism> Now, I trust you've gotten to the Captain rank already?

11:27 <Koopz> i was Storm Captain for a few days already, yeah but i lacked the 35k coins for the bow

11:28 <Koopz> i still haven't reached max level xD

11:30 <Koopz> i'm kinda confident that i'll reach 70 this week

11:30 <Koopz> conquered Doma Castle yesterday

11:30 <Schism> Mmm, then comes the real fun.  But at least you can immediately start getting into the tomestones for proper gear.

11:31 <Schism> Or, as an intermediate, you can spend some Centurios if you haven't yet.

11:31 <Schism> Or rather, if you have any.

11:31 <Koopz> unlike my friends who were skipping cutscenes and didn't even bother doing all the blue + quests

11:31 * Schism eyerolls. "Taking your time is a good thing."

11:32 <Koopz> one of them basically spent an entire day unlocking all dungeons that weren't covered by the main questline

11:33 <Schism> Well, I mean, there are worse things to spend a day on.

11:33 <Schism> But that also means that they skipped the best questlines in the game.  :(

11:33 <Koopz> like Hildibrand?

11:33 <Schism> Exactly.

11:33 <Koopz> what a ride

11:34 <Schism> I still absolutely adore those quests.

11:36 <Koopz> i did the first case but stopped in the middle of the second one

11:36 <Koopz> gonna continue when i'm 70

11:37 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift.

11:37 <Finwe> o7

11:37 * Finwe hats on Koopz.

11:37 <Koopz> can't let my friends like... wait forever

11:37 <Koopz> they want to take me on Expert Roulettes and stuff

11:37 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)

11:38 <Schism> Well, expert roulettes /are/ pretty good.

11:38 <Schism> Shame you're not on Coeurl, or I could hook you up with some crafted gear.

11:40 <Koopz> oh 2 of my friends have been playing for 6 years, they could provide me with everything

11:40 <Schism> Doesn't make a difference if they're not crafters.  :S

11:40 <Koopz> one of them has all jobs on 70

11:41 <Schism> That means less than nothing!  You could get to 70 by poking the Namazu with a tea strainer!

11:41 <Koopz> i'll relieve them of their materials when i'm starting to get my jobs up :P

11:41 <Schism> Okay, okay.  :P

11:41 <Schism> Oh yeah, you played any mahjong yet?

11:42 <Koopz> honestly no... i'm intrigued but haven't played the tutorial yet

11:42 <Koopz> recently looked up the original on google and... it looks kinda complicated

11:43 <Koopz> but it's probably not as complicated as Shogi :D

11:43 <Schism> I can sum it up for you very quickly.

11:44 <Schism> Your goal is to make a hand of four sets of three, and a pair.  Each turn, you draw a tile, then discard a tile.  If someone else discards a tile you need to complete a set, you can 'steal' it, then discard a tile from your hand.  Sane so far?

11:46 <Schism|Adagio> Huh.  That was peculiar.

11:46 <Koopz> yeah

11:47 <Schism|Adagio> Desktop just shut down... well, I'll bring it back up in a moment.

11:47 <Koopz> something like Poker

11:47 <Schism|Adagio> Kinda like rummy.

11:47 <Schism|Adagio> Anyway, for sets of 3 of a kind, you can take the tile from anyone who discards it; for runs like 1-2-3 or 6-7-8, you can only take it if the person before you discards it.

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11:48 <Schism|Adagio> Also, once you take a tile from someone else, you have to show the set to everyone.  This'll be important later.

11:49 <Schism|Adagio> The last rule in this part is that once you've discarded a tile from your own hand, you cannot steal that same tile from anyone.

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11:52 <Schism> Still with me thus far?

11:53 <Koopz> uh... yeah

11:53 <Schism> It's pretty simple up to that point.

11:54 <Schism> Now, here's where it gets a little more complicated.  In order for a hand to win, it has to be worth something, point-wise.

11:56 <Schism> The five basic hands are: All triples (pon), all runs (chi), all sets have a 1 or 9 (terminals), NO sets have a 1 or 9 (simples), or a mix with a set of non-suited tiles.

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11:58 <Schism> There is also the additional benefit that if your hand is closed - that is, you haven't taken any tiles - then it is always worth points.

11:58 <Schism> (stolen any, that is.)

11:59 <Koopz> so once you take a tile from someone else you have to play open?

11:59 <Schism> Correct - the rest of your hand remains opaque, but the set which you made is placed on the table for everyone to see.

12:00 <Schism> Depending on what you're going for, it can sometimes be well worth it to open your hand.

12:01 * Koopz flies off to lunch break

12:01 <Schism> Take care, eat well.

12:03 * Filly_Nightmares snugglies into Schism

12:03 * Filly_Nightmares mewls sadly

12:03 * Schism patpats, offers cough medicine?

12:03 * Filly_Nightmares mewls

12:04 * Filly_Nightmares clutches Schism

12:04 * Filly_Nightmares pouts. She wants her doggo!

12:07 * Filly_Nightmares uses Schism as a bed and goes sleepies

12:07 <Filly_Nightmares> Nini

12:07 *** Filly_Nightmares is now known as Sleeping_Nightmares

12:16 * Schism - being bereft of milk - adds a splash of pineapple juice to his tea.

12:16 <Schism> hm.  Yes, this works.

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13:16 <Koopz> https://www.gamedesign.jp/flash/mahjong/mahjong_e.html so i played a few rounds now

13:16 <Koopz> and i have no clue what's going on

13:17 <Koopz> i can only take discarded tiles to complete a set of 3, yes?

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13:19 <Koopz> and i can only *complete* a run of 3 using tiles from the player next to me, yes?

13:20 <Koopz> what's with the tiles in the middle? and what's the "East" thing?

13:21 <Schism> Okay, sorry, was briefly AFK.

13:22 <Schism> You can only pull a discard from another player if it completes a set, yes.

13:22 <Schism> And a run of three, or 'chi', is only available from the player before you.

13:22 <Schism> Now then.  By the tiles in the middle, do you refer to one or two which are upturned?

13:23 <Koopz> yep

13:23 <Koopz> the stack of 10 tiles with one upturned

13:23 <Schism> Ah, that would be the dora.  The dora is basically just a tile which counts for scoring in a hand.

13:24 <Schism> If you complete a hand with a dora, it's worth more points.

13:24 <Schism> Similarly, you may have noticed a set of three tiles, one in each suit, which are coloured red.  These are usually the 5s.

13:26 <Schism> The winds (directions) are also a scoring matter.  If you complete a set of winds which matches yours, the table's, or both, that qualifies as extra points.

13:26 <Koopz> the scoring's madness

13:28 <Schism> It really helps to just think of it as a valid hand being one of the five I mentioned above, and then everything else gets tacked on as a bonus.

13:29 <Schism> Also, two things you've likely seen now which affect gameplay.  The first is the difference between 'ron' and 'tsumo'.  Ron is when you finish your hand off a discarded tile; tsumo is when you draw the last tile you need.

13:29 <Schism> If you win via discard, you take points from the person who discarded the tile.  If you win via self-draw, you take points split amongst everyone.

13:30 <Koopz> can i only pick the last discarded tile from someone?

13:31 <Schism> Yes, once the option passes, it's a dead tile.

13:32 <Koopz> only left there in the middle so people can count how many are left

13:32 <Schism> Also left there in the middle for everyone to see, arranged by sides, because you cannot steal a tile you've discarded beforehand.

13:32 <Schism> So if, for example, the 2 of characters has been discarded by two players, you can bet it's probably safe to discard yourself.

13:33 <Koopz> because it's unlikely to get picked up by somebody else and therefore accidently play into their hands

13:34 <Schism> Exactly.

13:34 <Schism> Similarly, if you see two dragons of the same type on the table, it's usually - USUALLY - safe to discard one.

13:35 <Schism> (Dragons are the red, green, and white symbols.)

13:36 <Schism> The last piece of info about actual play, not getting into scoring, is 'riichi', or 'reach'.  This one is fairly straightforward.  If you have a closed hand which only needs one more tile to reach completion, you can call 'reach'.  Doing so means you have to discard any tiles which don't finish your hand, but is worth extra points if you succeed.

13:37 <Schism> Oh, and as a point -- you can call a run from another player besides the one to your left, if it will finish your hand.

13:40 <Koopz> http://koopz.rocks/s/2019-02-19_14-40-44.png i seem to be really bad xD

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13:42 <Schism> Hmmm.  That's not so terrible, really.  You had most of a hand going on there, you were in south, and you just needed the 1 of sticks to call, or for someone else to drop the south.

13:43 <Schism> You weren't furiten (meaning unable to pull a discard to win), you just didn't get lucky on that one.

13:44 <Schism> You even had a dora, though I see the dealer also had one.

13:45 <Schism> Looking at the dealer's hand, that was... I want to say 3,000 points?

13:45 <Koopz> do i have to discard 12 tiles every round?

13:45 <Schism> Nah, you can win on your first draw.

13:45 <Koopz> there's no "pass"

13:45 <Schism> You just have to discard a tile every time you pick one up, so your hand remains 13 in size.

13:45 <Schism> (Or 14 upon completion.)

13:49 <Koopz> do set scores differ on wether you steal a tile to complete it or pick it up by yourself?

13:50 <Schism> Yes and no.

13:50 <Schism> The point value remains the same, but if you win on a discard, you take all the points from the player who discarded it.

13:51 <Schism> If you win on a draw, the points are collected from all three players, split evenly.

13:53 <Schism> Oh, there are two exceptions to the 'four sets and a pair', but one is unlikely to get, and the other is unlikely to be seen in your lifetime.

13:53 <Schism> First is 7 pairs.  The second is a 1 and 9 of every suit, all four winds, all three dragons, and one other terminal (1 or 9) or honor (wind/dragon) tile.

13:54 <Schism> That second hand is vanishingly unlikely, but everyone goes for it when they have half a chance, heh.

13:55 <Koopz> can you Pon/Chii the dragons?

13:55 <Schism> Pon, yes.  Chi, no.

13:55 <Schism> Same for the winds.

13:57 <Koopz> Pon = 3x same, Chii = 1,2,3 - both meaning you have to take one of the tiles from another player?

13:57 <Koopz> or regardless of how you got the 3 together?

13:57 <Schism> They just mean a specific type of set.

13:58 <Schism> CALLING them is when you take the tile from another player, and put them down to show proof, opening your hand.

14:00 <Koopz> http://koopz.rocks/s/2019-02-19_14-59-54.png why won't this end, lol?

14:00 <Koopz> http://koopz.rocks/s/2019-02-19_15-00-54.png

14:01 <Schism> Yup, that happens.  And I see south called Riichi.

14:02 <Koopz> http://koopz.rocks/s/2019-02-19_15-02-49.png i feel like they're mocking mee

14:03 <Schism> Ooh, yeah, I hate when that happens.

14:05 * Schism gets tanyao. "Well, better than whatever that riichi was."

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14:06 <Koopz> http://koopz.rocks/s/2019-02-19_15-06-14.png now i just discarded everything that wasn't characters out of spite and...

14:07 <Schism> Not bad, not bad at all.  Half-flush with an inside straight.

14:08 <Schism> With the red dragons, tsumo, that's what, 4,000 from all?

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14:09 <Koopz> my score increased by 9100

14:10 <Koopz> yeah... i think i should do some further reading-up on this later... maybe do the thing my time is actually getting paid for lol...

14:10 <Schism> Ah, so 2700 from all, plus 1k for being the dealer.

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14:14 <Schism> Also, DARNIT.  I had a good run on a 7 pairs, and nooope, someone tsumo'd on a riichi.

14:17 <Schism> Also, Koopz: Yeeeeah, perhaps a good idea.  Mahjong is addictive as heck.

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14:57 <Thelema5> Hello everypony

15:03 <Finwe> Mr Thelema5.

15:03 * Finwe doffs his hat.

15:21 * Cepheid flops in.

15:23 * Schism waves to Cepheid. "Hey, question. Do you think that an Etrian Odyssey-styled game would work well as a text-based one?"

15:31 <Schism> Heh, sorry, was a bit distracted, I'm falling to ADHD again.

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15:44 <Finwe> Mr Cepheid.

15:44 * Finwe doffs his hat.

15:46 <Cepheid> Define text-based one.

15:47 <Schism> Like, for example, a single-player MUD -- yes, I know the idiocy of that phrase -- which gives the description for each room and some data on the surrounding ones (for FOEs), but doesn't provide its own map, and the player's party is effectively mapped as a set of items they carry around.

15:51 <Cepheid> It can work.

15:52 <Cepheid> Though, the simplicity of the design would actually make it easier in the long run to probably create a customized core engine instead.

15:53 <Cepheid> It's definitely viable to do what you suggested using existing MUD engines, but it'd probably be complicated a tad, and limited to a degree.  It'd be simpler to just create a new core to work with that supports controlling groups of characters.

15:54 <Schism> Hmmm, I'm not sure how limited it would be, ultimately.  MUF is pretty extensible, and I'm tempted to say Turing-complete.

15:54 <Schism> And even MPI scripts could get one pretty far.

15:54 <Schism> (That's MU-Forth, not... an esolang.)

15:57 <Schism> Biggest headache might be FOE movement in that regard.

15:58 <Schism> Oh god, X86 page fault handling can be used to execute a machine which turns out to be Turing-complete.

15:58 <Cepheid> FOEs are mostly patrollers.

15:58 <Cepheid> The exception to the rule is aggressive FOEs, which will follow the player when spotted.

15:59 <Cepheid> This mostly occurs either due to direct straight line-of-sight, or through entering set regions.

15:59 <Schism> Indeed, but EO is a turn-based game even on the map, which means that any action the players take (and yes, a 'wait' action will be there) needs to ping every extant FOE on the map and adjust its locale accordingly.  Not hard, just a pain to do for every action.

16:00 <Cepheid> Not necessarily.

16:00 <Schism> Of course, were I smart I'd just tie it into the timer.

16:01 <Schism> And have every action forward that instead.

16:01 <Cepheid> Using a timer would make more sense.

16:01 <Cepheid> Like, every 5 seconds, the FOEs take a turn.

16:01 <Cepheid> Regardless of whether or not the player(s) have.

16:01 <Cepheid> It'd be the only way it makes any sense and works.

16:02 <Schism> Ah, well.  I do mean single-player in this regard, so there's no reason it can't be entirely turn-based.

16:02 <Cepheid> Right.

16:02 <Cepheid> In that case, just standing still and not doing anything would be "waiting"

16:02 <Schism> Erm... no reason for it to be real-time at all.

16:03 <Cepheid> The only actions that trigger a turn in the EO series without moving, especially EO5 and EON, are 'activation' of blocker tiles, or activating a harvest point.

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16:04 <Schism> Right.  A 'wait' command would be similar, but without actually doing anything.  (A part of me also thinks that a turn should be used up when the player uses an item out of combat.)

16:05 <Cepheid> Except the EO series doesn't support a wait command.

16:05 <Cepheid> So it's not really necessary.

16:06 * Schism shrugs, "It doesn't have to be a perfect rendition. And a few puzzles could be added which make use of waiting."

16:06 <Cepheid> If we replicate the mechanics of the EO series in a MUD, then there's no wait command, and using an item does not take up a turn.

16:06 <Cepheid> There is that, yeah.

16:12 <Schism> I swear, if I ever see Doug Ford on the street I'm tempted to chuck a $1 beer bottle at his head.

16:20 <Cepheid> What'd he do now?

16:22 <Schism> Removing oversight of the police force.

16:22 <Cepheid> ...

16:22 <Cepheid> What.

16:23 <Schism> Yeah, the changes made by the Liberal government are being rolled back.

16:23 <Schism> As he sees them as, in effect, an attack on the police.

16:25 * Cepheid facepalms.

16:25 <Cepheid> That man is ruining this province.

16:25 <Cepheid> And the lives of many.

16:25 <Schism> But hey, $1 beer!

16:25 * Schism sighs, and just desks.

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16:31 <Cepheid> I'd prefer $2.1 billion in mental health over 4 years.

16:32 <Cepheid> The insistence that it be $1.9 billion over 10 years is an insult to people like me, and it's also already causing trouble.

16:32 <Cepheid> My current psych is retiring this year because she's overloaded with work and underpaid.

16:33 <Schism> Indeed...

16:33 <Cepheid> But nah, you know, money for first responders to respond to shootings is far more important.

16:35 <Schism> There's a particularly sick joke that can be made there.

16:36 <Schism> I'm too tired to guesstimate where I should draw the line on black comedy, though, so I shan't share.

16:36 <Cepheid> Poke me in a query.

16:36 <Cepheid> At this point, I'm miffed anyways, so it's moot.

16:37 <Schism> Sorry to be a downer, bleh.

16:39 <Cepheid> Nah, it's fine.

16:39 <Cepheid> It's been on my mind as of late 'cause of the psych retiring and all that.

16:39 * Schism mms.

16:39 <Cepheid> I'm not sure what I'm gonna do when she retires, because it'll be hard for me to find a replacement, given my track record.

16:40 <Cepheid> Prior to this one, the last two psychs I tried to get in with both retired and/or ****ed me over before I got to see them.

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17:54 <DashedRainbows> Yo pony peeps

17:56 * LibrarianofHope glomps da dashed

17:56 <SilverLining> Hellew

17:56 <LibrarianofHope> top of whatever hour it is

17:57 <LibrarianofHope> are kirin canon in mlp?

17:58 <Schism> Yes.

17:58 <SilverLining> What's a kirin again...?

17:58 <Schism> Ponydragons!

17:58 <LibrarianofHope> no electricity involved?

18:00 <Schism> https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/mlp/images/4/4a/AJ_gallops_alongside_Autumn_Blaze_S8E23.png/revision/latest?cb=20181001005944 - Well, there are rainbows involved.

18:02 * Cepheid drags a dead horse down Yonge street in Toronto. He's legally allowed to do this because it's not Sunday.

18:03 <Cepheid> LibrarianofHope:  Qilin are basically chimerical Chinese mythical creatures.  Kirin is what they're called in Japan.

18:04 <LibrarianofHope> ohh

18:04 * Schism stands outside the border of Petrolia, Ontario, and whistles a merry tune. OUTSIDE town limits.

18:04 <LibrarianofHope> now i feel guilty for the kirins i hunted

18:04 <Schism> Cepheid: I forget, you're in Orleans, right?

18:04 <Cepheid> Yes.

18:04 <Cepheid> Not New Orleans.

18:05 <Schism> Right.  If you head over to Oshawa, don't climb any trees there.

18:05 <LibrarianofHope> no voodo?

18:05 <Cepheid> Bloody city..  Makes it hard to find local news.

18:05 <Cepheid> Schism:  The fungus, yes.

18:05 <Schism> Oh wait, Oshawa is... way over in the other direction.

18:05 <Cepheid> Still.

18:05 <Cepheid> It's relatively nearby.

18:05 <Schism> Eh, actually, it's between the two of us... whatever.

18:06 <Cepheid> Actually, wait.

18:06 <Cepheid> Oshawa is closer to Toronto.

18:06 <Schism> Yeah.  For some reason I conflated it with, well, Ottawa.

18:06 <Cepheid> Akin to how Orleans is right next to Ottawa.

18:06 <Schism> Hm.  Biking with your feet off the pedals is illegal in Ottawa.

18:06 <Schism> It is also illegal to eat ice cream on Bank Street on Sunday.

18:06 <Cepheid> Claim to prove:  LibrarianofHope is confused by the fact that I live in both Ottawa, and Orleans.

18:07 <Cepheid> LibrarianofHope, is my claim true or false?

18:07 <LibrarianofHope> im always confused

18:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Poll Results: Which Mane Character Had the Best Role in Season 8?  [ http://tinyurl.com/y2e2lusx ]

18:07 <LibrarianofHope> pass

18:07 <LibrarianofHope> next question

18:07 <Cepheid> Heh.

18:07 <Cepheid> It's basically something that Ottawa did a while back.

18:07 <LibrarianofHope> bank!

18:07 <Schism> Ouch.  Feel for the people of Uxbridge.

18:07 <Cepheid> In the early 2000s, Ottawa did something called amalgamation.

18:07 <LibrarianofHope> you anexed it?

18:07 <Schism> It became a Frankencity!

18:08 <Cepheid> They took all the small towns nearby Ottawa, and amalgamated them into one larger city.

18:08 <LibrarianofHope> seems reasonable

18:08 <Cepheid> Each town retains a moderate amount of independence, that is, we still have a government over Orleans.

18:08 <LibrarianofHope> and you live in the orleans part

18:08 <Cepheid> But for the most part, we're considered as part of Ottawa, and the Ottawa City Council is what controls most of what happens to us.

18:08 <Cepheid> Yes.

18:08 <Cepheid> Orleans is on the eastern side the city.

18:08 <LibrarianofHope> so voodo

18:09 <Cepheid> It's considered... hmm..

18:09 <Cepheid> Kanata, on the west end, is considered the rich part of the city.

18:09 <Cepheid> It's full of people with too much money for their own good.

18:09 <Schism> Cepheid: You remember that LibrarianofHope lives in Mexico City, ne?

18:09 <LibrarianofHope> you have a palce called kanata?

18:09 <Cepheid> Orleans meanwhile is closer to a mix of middle and lower class.

18:09 <Cepheid> Yes.

18:09 <Cepheid> To both questions.

18:09 <LibrarianofHope> like Konatas Mom

18:09 <LibrarianofHope> owo

18:10 <Schism> I have a sneaking suspicion that 'a city eating the small villages around it' is probably familiar, heh.

18:10 <Cepheid> That said, Orleans is an interesting case.

18:10 <Cepheid> The city is having trouble dealing with traffic.

18:10 <LibrarianofHope> even better, so consider we anex the state of mexico to make a megalopolis

18:10 <Cepheid> Orleans apparently, by far, has the highest ridership on the local OC Transpo transportation system.

18:10 <Cepheid> And traffic during rush hour is particularly bad between central Ottawa and Orleans.

18:11 <LibrarianofHope> you think traffic is your ally, i was born in it, molded by it

18:11 <Cepheid> That's part of why the LRT project was created, and goes from Orleans to the west side of central Ottawa.

18:11 <Cepheid> Not surprisingly, Kanata was pissed at this.

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18:12 <Cepheid> This is partly why we know that Kanata is full of rich people, because they made us aware of it

18:12 <Cepheid> They basically felt that, because of their status, they were more deserving of the LRT project.

18:13 <Cepheid> Nevermind that their ridership and traffic is about on par with the rest of the city, unlike with Orleans.

18:13 <Cepheid> That said, they are getting their own LRT path.  *AFTER* the current one is done.

18:13 <Cepheid> Assuming the current one is ever finished.

18:14 <Cepheid> The current deadline is March 31st for the keys to be handed over to the city.

18:14 * Ali flops over Cepheid

18:14 <Cepheid> But even now, people, including the local news stations, are beginning to question if that deadline will be met.

18:15 <LibrarianofHope> thats cute

18:15 <Cepheid> It was supposed to be done in 2017.

18:15 <LibrarianofHope> mexicans expect nothing from goverment

18:15 <Cepheid> I think that may have something to do with our distrust of the deadline.

18:15 <LibrarianofHope> we work around them and let them do their madness

18:15 <Cepheid> Plus the whole "the city was fined 1 million dollars, and the city just spiked taxes and bus fares to pay for it."

18:17 <Cepheid> In any case, Ottawa's mostly a boring city.

18:17 <Cepheid> Too much politics.

18:17 <Cepheid> But then, that's to be expected because it's the capital city of Canada.

18:17 <Ali> Cepheid, what do you think of the changes to with .17?

18:17 <Cepheid> I like them.

18:17 <Ali> They are allowing you island maps

18:17 <Ali> Which can seem interesting and wierd

18:18 <Cepheid> I'd be a bit happier with one change to that system.

18:18 <Cepheid> From the sound of the current design, it's a single island in an infinite sea.

18:18 * Schism starts making green algae.

18:18 <Cepheid> Unless you use multiple starting points, that is.

18:18 <Ali> Yeah that's what I'm worried about too

18:18 <Cepheid> I'd prefer multiple islands.  Or an archipelogo setting.

18:19 <Ali> Cause if there's not enough resources on that single island, you're doomed

18:19 <Cepheid> But, given all the changes they made to worldgen, it might not be difficult to make such changes.

18:19 <Schism> hmmm.  I wonder...

18:19 <Cepheid> That said, there are issues with multi-island setups.

18:19 <Ali> How so?

18:19 <Cepheid> Namely, no easy way to connect them.

18:19 <Ali> Ah

18:19 <Ali> Well it makes you have to use the soil reclaim a lot huh?

18:19 <Cepheid> What it would require is a new "bridge" element.

18:20 <Cepheid> And while you can use soil fill and all that..

18:20 <Cepheid> I don't consider that "clean"

18:20 <Schism> https://mods.factorio.com/mod/islands_world - uses oversea rails.

18:20 <Cepheid> There's that, yeah.

18:20 <LibrarianofHope> wasnt the point of factorio building a factory up to a ship?

18:20 <LibrarianofHope> to ecape

18:20 <Cepheid> A space ship, yeah.

18:20 <Ali> Only to a 'rocket' in MP

18:20 <Ali> I don't know the SP mode

18:20 <LibrarianofHope> you go distracted

18:20 <Cepheid> SP mode, it's the same.

18:21 <Schism> Of course, by the end the character goes, "Well, I've spent so much time on this one, I may as well just launch a fish into lower orbit and finish my takeover of the world."

18:21 <Ali> I never did the SP missions past tutorials

18:21 <Cepheid> Oh, right, the SP tutorials stuff.

18:21 <Cepheid> The campaign is basically a tutorial to rocket ship, more or less.

18:22 <Cepheid> Guh.

18:22 <Cepheid> My face is feeling weird.

18:22 <LibrarianofHope> hot?

18:22 <LibrarianofHope> numb?

18:22 <Cepheid> Pressure.

18:22 <LibrarianofHope> ear good?

18:22 <Cepheid> My ears feel like they're boiling, but that's because I'm using headphones.  I should go up to my bedroom and use speakers.

18:23 <LibrarianofHope> its the inner ear pressure

18:23 <LibrarianofHope> affects face

18:24 <Cepheid> I still don't fully understand how it all works, to be honest.

18:24 <Cepheid> I suffer no symptoms of illness when I sleep.

18:24 <Cepheid> But when I awake, I start to suffer a headache within 3 hours.

18:25 <Cepheid> I presume my immune system becomes more effective while I am asleep.

18:25 <Cepheid> And that it clears up whatever problems are causing my sinuses to close up more tightly than a Fallout Vault.

18:26 <Cepheid> But when I awake, my immune system, for whatever reason, slows down or becomes less effective.

18:26 <Cepheid> And then whatever's causing all the inflammation starts gaining ground.  Which results in my sinuses slowly closing up tighter than a Fallout vault.

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18:30 <Cepheid> 私は私 それだけ~

18:33 <LibrarianofHope> language center exploded, he mixed them

18:33 <LibrarianofHope> hoi thelema

18:36 <Cepheid> A rough literal translation, which might be wrong because I think 「それだけ」 is a sort of slang-like usage, is "I am me, and that's it."  Given the context, it's akin to "I am who I am, and that's all there is to say." As in, a person cannot simply change who they are in some respects.

18:38 <LibrarianofHope> i think, therefore i am

18:38 <LibrarianofHope> how do you say my name?

18:39 <Cepheid> In Japanese?

18:40 <LibrarianofHope> yep

18:41 <Cepheid> First off, it requires some context.  The word "librarian" is obvious, you're a librarian at a library.  Of course, if you're chief librarian of a library, the word changes.  Meanwhile, "of hope", that needs clarification with relation to your title of Librarian.

18:41 <LibrarianofHope> Librarian that gives hopes

18:42 <LibrarianofHope> in the taking care sense

18:42 <Cepheid> That gives hopes.  So you're not a person who is hoping that something occurs, but rather, inspires other people.

18:42 <LibrarianofHope> yes

18:43 <Cepheid> Hmm..

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18:50 <Cepheid> Hard to say, to be honest.  Currently, I only know how to express "of" in the sense of possessing it.

18:51 <Cepheid> That is, expressing it in the form of "My cat" or "My house" or "Computer owned by X" or "X's computer."

18:52 <Cepheid> The only "correct" name I can give you is your katakana name, given that you are a foreigner in relation to Japan.

18:52 <LibrarianofHope> ok

18:52 <Cepheid> And that would be 「ライブラリアン・オブ・ホープ」. which is "Raiburarian obu hoopu" where the "o" sound is akin to the "oa" in English "boat".

18:52 <Cepheid> The lack of distinction between l and r is the reason for the "r" at the start of librarian.

18:55 <LibrarianofHope> would hopebringer be easier?

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18:56 <LibrarianofHope> ali would be easy

18:56 <LibrarianofHope> ali:kawaii

18:56 * Ali squeaks

18:56 <LibrarianofHope> owo

18:56 * Ali bonks LibrarianofHope, ish not cute

18:56 <LibrarianofHope> tsundere ali owo

18:57 * Ali thinks LibrarianofHope would have to fear worse than boops if the unicorn was a tsundere

18:57 <LibrarianofHope> point taken

18:58 * LibrarianofHope polishes ali in appeasment

18:58 <LibrarianofHope> shiny mod is shiny

18:59 * Ali isn't a pokemon! She doesn't have a shiny form

18:59 <LibrarianofHope> alimon

18:59 <LibrarianofHope> no, thtas digimon

19:02 <LibrarianofHope> alimon digievolves tooo

19:04 <Ali> Into a hoof on LibrarianofHope's face

19:05 <Cepheid> 「司書は希望持ってくる」 would roughly translate to "Librarian brings hope."  I don't know how to express "Librarian who brings hope."

19:05 <Cepheid> As for Ali's name, it depends on how it's meant to be pronounced, for transliteration.

19:05 <Cepheid> I pronounce it like the English word "Alley" but I am not sure if that is correct.

19:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: 3D Pony Art Gallery #64 [ http://tinyurl.com/y3owww6x ]

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19:11 <Cepheid> I like these new speakers I got.

19:11 <Cepheid> First off, they cause my desk to vibrate, so I feel the sound if I rest my hands on the desk or keyboard.

19:11 <Cepheid> Feels funky.

19:12 <Cepheid> But on top of that, the bass is loud enough and directed enough that I can feel it, even with distance between me and my desk.

19:14 * Cepheid sends LM2's Jormungandr after Schism.

19:15 * Ali sends Hive Fleet Jormungandr after Cepheid

19:15 * Cepheid retaliates with the Ultramarines.

19:16 <Cepheid> Schism, I'm upset about one boss track of LM2.

19:16 <Cepheid> Given the boss in question, and it's relation to LM1.

19:17 <Ali> Cepheid, I love to nom on some blueberries.  Or should I say the Smurfs of the mahreens

19:17 <Cepheid> Heh.

19:18 <Cepheid> I wonder if their nature as smurfs who are OP is the reason the Battle of Macragge was created.

19:18 <Cepheid> Since that's one case where they lost.

19:19 <Cepheid> That said, the inquisitor's approach to handling the Tyranid threat seems entirely reasonable.

19:19 <Cepheid> Yes, it's terrifying a terrible idea to literally turn entire, populated planets into barren worlds with no biological life without evacuating the people on the planet, but..

19:19 <Cepheid> Given how overpopulated most of the planets are constantly described as, there'd be no way to evacuate everyone in time.

19:19 * Ali nom nom noms

19:20 <Cepheid> And stalling the Tyranid growth via complete destruction of their food source seems a reasonable strategy until a better tactic can be pulled up.

19:20 <Cepheid> Especially since any food source will be integrated into the swarm, so..

19:21 <Cepheid> Arguably, the battle of Macragge probably made that particular swarm worse.

19:21 <Cepheid> Best of the best of Space Marines, their genetic material, their tactics, their knowledge, integrated into a hive-mind, which can then re-use that material to create new weapons, better warriors and the like.

19:22 <Cepheid> In other words, tyranid smurfs.

19:22 <Cepheid> Only less blue and purple.

19:23 <LibrarianofHope> not fan of that universe

19:24 <LibrarianofHope> no hope at all

19:25 <LibrarianofHope> i do have a related tecnique

19:25 <LibrarianofHope> ali exterminatus

19:25 <LibrarianofHope> consists of making ali mad and sending her to the planet

19:25 * Ali hisses at exterminatis

19:25 <LibrarianofHope> owo

19:25 <LibrarianofHope> see? it works

19:25 <Cepheid> Not entirely.

19:25 * Ali sics the Genestealer Cult on LibrarianofHope

19:26 <Cepheid> In some of the writings, it's implied that some species of Tyranid can dig into the earth deep enough to escape Exterminatus.

19:26 * LibrarianofHope smushes bug bois with gravity malfuction

19:26 <Cepheid> Once Exterminatus is completed, they simply pop back up.

19:27 <Cepheid> In order to use the technique to stop them and impact their numbers, you would have to turn worlds ahead of the fleet barren, while also attacking the fleet directly.

19:27 <LibrarianofHope> wonder if my chaos goddesses can kill their chaos gods in a fairish fight

19:27 <Cepheid> Alternatively..

19:27 <Cepheid> Allow the fleet to enter a solar system, then detonate the star.

19:27 <Cepheid> Perhaps by baiting them to the planet closest to the star, to get as much of the fleet as possible in the system.

19:28 <LibrarianofHope> you ever wondered wht the emperor is thinking in his golden throne, if he is still sane?

19:28 <Cepheid> But it doesn't seem like such technology exists in WH40k.

19:28 <LibrarianofHope> must be awfull

19:28 <Cepheid> There's actually a collection of youtube videos that covers that in a hilarious, but offensive manner.

19:28 <LibrarianofHope> pm me the name please

19:29 <Cepheid> Let me see if I can find it.

19:30 <Golden> I never played WH40K from how expensive it is

19:30 <LibrarianofHope> i tried

19:30 <LibrarianofHope> must players are mean

19:30 <Cepheid> I have a small collection of Tyranid figures.

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19:31 <LibrarianofHope> lots of gatekeeping

19:31 <LibrarianofHope> i did enjoy the Ciaphas Cain novels

19:31 <LibrarianofHope> onl guy having fun in the universe

19:32 <Cepheid> Ali might like the youtube series.  Cause the emperor complains about the smurfs.

19:32 <Golden> Yikes then if thats the community I honestly don't want to try it

19:32 <LibrarianofHope> might be only my case

19:34 <Ali> The if the emporer had a text to speach device?

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19:35 <Golden> Hm.

19:36 <LibrarianofHope> its awesome

19:39 <LibrarianofHope> if thats the emperor of mankind, we lost big time.

19:40 <LibrarianofHope> i liked the necron, they are neat

19:40 <LibrarianofHope> orks are funny in a genocidal way

19:40 <LibrarianofHope> my kalinka and malinka would get so weel with gork and mork

19:42 <Cepheid> "I'm so unfathomably jealous I could just burn you all right now! ...  But I won't, so don't worry."

19:43 <LibrarianofHope> my goddess are more of the destroy stuff for amusment

19:43 <LibrarianofHope> not in a mean way, just for naive curiosity

19:44 <Cepheid> "I don't have time to die.  I'm too BUSY!"

19:47 <LibrarianofHope> centurion pet

19:48 <LibrarianofHope> this actually makes so much sense, snarky insane emperor

19:50 <Cepheid> Not so much insane, but down-to-Earth.

19:50 <LibrarianofHope> a perfect mix

19:50 <Cepheid> Whereas everyone else is insane, because they misinterpreted his will, or used the Emperor and his inability to communicate with people as a tool to control humanity.

19:51 <LibrarianofHope> now i really want to write a fic about this

19:52 <Cepheid> If I ever improbably do something world-changing, I am demanding that my remains be burned to ashes such that no one could ever prop me up and use me as a tool.  And just to make sure, the ashes will then summarily be burned into non-existence, or mixed into acid, so that as my last act of defiance against stupidity, I can be part of the compound that melts the head of an idiot who tries to commit attrocities in my name.

19:53 <LibrarianofHope> can i use that in my stories somewhere?

19:53 <LibrarianofHope> i love it

19:55 <Cepheid> Go nuts.

19:55 <LibrarianofHope> thx

19:59 <Cepheid> Almost done of school project at last.  Then I can clean this mess of a room up, and get back to work on my game.

20:00 <LibrarianofHope> what did it end up being?

20:04 <Cepheid> The group project?

20:04 <Cepheid> Or the game?

20:05 <LibrarianofHope> game

20:06 <Cepheid> Still working on that.

20:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Animatic: (Sandbar x Gallus) "Better To Lie" [ http://tinyurl.com/y24g4jvl ]

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20:18 <ADragonHoarding> Cepheid: "And then, in defiance of the tools of the evil ones, the great one had himself immolated, that his holy remains would remain forever out of their reach!"

20:21 <Cepheid> Heh.

20:22 <Cepheid> The unfortunate reality of conviction.  If it's strong enough, they can justify anything.

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20:26 <Cepheid> Right, there's not much else I can do about the group project now.  So I'm gonna go clean my room up.

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20:36 * Filly_Nightmares curls up on Cepheid

20:39 * Cepheid starts cleanup, collecting bits and pieces to discard.

20:51 <Cepheid> So that's horrifying.

20:51 <Cepheid> My old speaker set had, for whatever reason, a converter adapter attached to it, to convert from an EU-style plug to that of North America styles.

20:51 <Cepheid> Now, this is nothing big, really.

20:51 <Cepheid> Except when I unplogged the adapter from the power bar..

20:52 <Cepheid> One of the prongs popped out of the adapter, and is now stuck in my power bar.

20:52 <Cepheid> I'm gonna unplug it, let it sit for 15-20 minutes, then remove it.

20:52 <Cepheid> I don't know if the thing holds a charge or not, and I'd rather not take the chance it does.

20:57 <Cepheid> In any case, once it discharges, I'll rip the prong out.  Not sure if I want to keep using the bar, though.

21:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Pony Community Soapbox #128 - Spike Justice, Important Platonic Relationships, and More!  [ http://tinyurl.com/y58aqu5d ]

21:18 * Cepheid comes back covered in electrical burns. "Well that was easy."

21:27 <Cepheid> Hum, I've managed to reduce my number of electrical sockets required down to 2 sockets.  I no longer need to have this bulky power bar out.

21:27 <Cepheid> I mean, it's beneficial for stuff, like plugging in extra devices, but I can use a less bulky bar for that.

21:31 <Cepheid> Man, why are all the bluetooth keyboards small, non-keypad layouts?

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21:34 <Cepheid> Granted, I don't really use the keypad all that much.

21:35 <Cepheid> Truth told, I'd actually prefer something more akin to a keyboard laptop with FN + Arrows for Page Up, Page Down and such.

21:35 <Cepheid> I am so used to that kind of setup.

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21:36 <LibrarianofHope> im thinking im just going to ignore and avoid my dad as much as i can

21:37 <Cepheid> He seems to be trouble, yes.

21:37 <Cepheid> At least, for you anyways.

21:37 <LibrarianofHope> cant have a conversation without me getiing sad or attacked

21:37 <Cepheid> Judging from how you speak of him, it sounds like he's kind of living in the past.

21:37 <LibrarianofHope> meh, im just keeping my sanity here

21:38 <LibrarianofHope> brb, i should lett the pc cppl its kinda hot

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21:39 <Cepheid> https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823126383 What in the hell kind of keyboard is *THIS*?

21:42 <Cepheid> https://i.imgur.com/Gts82gO.jpg The layout I'm looking for.  Only requirement is that it be bluetooth compatible.

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21:49 <Cepheid> My cat doesn't mind licking bitter apple spray stuff, and spicy spray stuff, so they're ineffective.

21:49 <Cepheid> I wonder how well my cat would handle a Switch cartridge.

21:49 <Cepheid> I'm inclined to test, but I think that'd be animal cruelty.

21:57 <Cepheid> The closest match I can find that meets my requirements is the Logitech K810.  Which is a $200 keyboard on Newegg.

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22:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #2897 [ http://tinyurl.com/yxn3hor3 ]

22:14 <Cepheid> Bah, it appears bluetooth 5-button mice are uncommon.  Everyone seems to be using some 2.4GHz wireless proprietary tech.

22:17 <LibrarianofHope> my birthday is relativly soon

22:17 <LibrarianofHope> im getting nooothing again

22:21 <LibrarianofHope> besides berated

22:21 <LibrarianofHope> fun times owo

22:28 <Cepheid> Depends on definition of "fun"

22:29 <LibrarianofHope> i always wanted a matryoshka figuerine from the vocaloid song

22:30 <LibrarianofHope> no one has ever made it

22:30 <LibrarianofHope> probably becuase everyone besides me thinks its a scary/sad song

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23:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Letters FROM the Staff - A Twitter Outpouring from FiM Staff [ http://tinyurl.com/yyv5npgs ]

23:11 <Finwe> Good evening, everypony.

23:12 <Finwe> Messrs Cepheid and LibrarianofHope.

23:12 * Finwe doffs his hat.

23:12 * Finwe noms on Ali|BGN's BGN.

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