00:03 <ADragonDreaming> mowr.
00:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Beautiful Lighting and Adorable Pony Style - DraconidsMXZ Artist Spolight and Interview! [ http://tinyurl.com/y2v9dybe ]
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00:30 <Cepheid> What to do tonight..?
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00:43 <Schism> "The Wonderbolts do formation flying. Which has its own benefits, but Rainbow Dash does things alone. I was mimicking her, and adjusting for wing shapes... and adjusting wing shapes, too. A shapeshifter can do some wind shaping that a mere pegasus or batpony couldn't even dream of."
00:44 <Schism> "...most of them couldn't, anyway. You remember Wind Whistler. And Steel Wing."
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01:05 * DashedRainbows pants and then licks PinkieShy and Quill-Swirl
01:06 <DashedRainbows> also, https://twitter.com/rhg135/status/1104180399104839681
01:07 <Schism> "Now, hold that around your wing. The combined feeling of water and wind. Keep it held, and then swing -- letting it depart from your feathers individually. And... LOOSE!"
01:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Aniamtion: Different View of Shyness [ http://tinyurl.com/y5rb2h6d ]
01:08 <Schism> Not bad, DashedRainbows!
01:12 <Cepheid> So apparently my cat does not like having his skin touched.
01:12 * Cepheid sits atop ADragonDreaming
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01:20 * Schism imagines Equestrian Mahjong. With hoofprints, horns, and feathers as the three main suits, three dragons, and four winds.
01:20 <Schism> And possibly flowers. o3o;
01:21 <PinkieShy> Saw a Squirrel rip a flower off a tree and run off with it and eat it..
01:21 <Schism> "And where do the dragons come in?" "They're nobles. Make a set of them, they're always worth something."
01:24 <Cepheid> Huh. The code I've written works just fine under Windows. How unusual.
01:29 <Cepheid> Anyways, that's enough for the evening.
01:29 <Cepheid> Hum, what shall I play tonight? Got a bunch of weapons I need to collect in Monster Hunter World.
01:29 <Cepheid> But..
01:31 <Schism> Rabi-Ribi: Before Next Adventure?
01:34 <Cepheid> Actually I think I may lay down. I'm starting to feel a little out of it.
01:35 <Schism> Same...
01:35 <Schism> Dunno why. Maybe it's the weather finally turning to warm.
01:36 <Cepheid> In my case, running on antibiotics, also, I think I'm sick with a cold that I'm not taking good care of.
01:37 <Schism> Judging by your past, I think that taking care of it might provoke the opposite reaction.
01:37 <Cepheid> Possibly.
01:37 <Cepheid> Anyhow, I at least made some progress on the game. Moved everything to a remote repository, so I won't lose everything easily now. o3o
01:38 <Schism> I think we've made some decent progress on nailing down a story, too.
01:38 <Cepheid> Tomorrow, re-integrate map rendering(Disabled it while I was doing some font rendering stuff.)
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01:38 <Schism> Or, at least, the beginnings.
01:38 <Cepheid> Schism, if you still have the window open, please save the log, as Windows forced me to lose everything.
01:38 <Schism> One sec before you sleep then.
01:39 <Schism> Do you mean just from tonight?
01:39 <Cepheid> Just from tonight.
01:39 <Cepheid> Wait, no, I have the logs.
01:39 <Cepheid> I set up Hexchat to log, apparently.
01:40 <Schism> Oh, good. Yeah, I think that's actually the default.
01:40 <Schism> I was looking to see if I could password-protect a Pastebin.
01:41 <Cepheid> Eh, don't worry. I got everything.
01:41 <Schism> Alrighty then. o3o;
01:41 <Cepheid> Mind, split between both my PC and laptop, and since my VPS doesn't replicate what *I* say across all connected clients... eeeyeah.
01:41 <Cepheid> So I'll have some stitching to do.
01:45 <Schism> I know those feels, heh.
01:46 <Cepheid> I'd like to try and get a player character implemented by the end of next week.
01:47 <Schism> Ah. Van de 64x32 Rectan, a classic protagonist.
01:47 <Cepheid> Hmm?
01:48 <Schism> I'm being silly. :P
01:48 <Cepheid> Heh. And nah, he's a circle.
01:48 <Schism> Oh, I see. A well-rounded character, that.
01:50 <Schism> (Old joke is old, but I make no apologies.)
01:50 <Cepheid> Heh.
01:51 <Schism> Do you want to have a character who's short and square, or an actual two-square tall rectangle?
01:52 <Cepheid> Hard to say, the short-and-square was an interesting representation.
01:52 <Cepheid> But it has it's limitations.
01:52 * DashedRainbows runs to PinkieShy and boops him
01:52 <Schism> It was, and it worked really well with Cave Story too, but... yeah.
01:52 * PinkieShy boops DashedRainbows
01:53 * DashedRainbows rolls over and wags her tail
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01:56 * PinkieShy hands DashedRainbows a Chobani greek yogurt
01:56 <Cepheid> Anyways, I'ma get changed and flopple off to bed. Be back shortly on my tablet.
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01:57 * PinkieShy hands Cepheid some greek Yogurt
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02:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1733 [ http://tinyurl.com/y2wlnsw7 ]
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02:11 <Cepheid> Hum. So I'll need to decide a hierarchy of entity types before I can enable a player character. A hierarchy that describes related traits for different kinds of entities.
02:13 <Cepheid> Minimum required to even draw anything is a position and a sprite.
02:20 <Cepheid> Position, scale, orientation, shear, sprite entry. Would allow for mode-7 type stuff.
02:46 <Cepheid> What is going on with the cats? Spitfire just spazzed and ran around downstairs. Now Tizzy is up here on my bed, licking my elbow.
02:52 * DashedRainbows noms and licks PinkieShy til he's dripping
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03:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: My Little Pony: Season 9 Premiere Meetups! Send Them in! [ http://tinyurl.com/yydskcjk ]
03:14 <Cepheid> I want to stay awake and code. o3o
03:39 <PinkieShy> Cooking the bacon today was amazingly easy :3
03:40 <Schism> Oh, good. When you parse the squeals of tires of street racers as the screams of children, you know you've cracked a little.
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04:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Fluttershy Music: Acouste Wholenote - In The Meantime [Alt. Rock] [ http://tinyurl.com/yy43k38a ]
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04:33 * Filly_Nightmares uses Ali as a bed!
04:46 <Cepheid> So I just spent the last 45 minutes getting buzzed and cleaning up code.
04:46 <RazorSharpFang> Had to teach Synthetic Division to a pupil today. That was a tough one.
04:48 * Ali snuffles on RazorSharpFang and Cepheid
04:51 <Cepheid> Sheesh. I've never seen that before. Looks confusing at first.
04:52 <RazorSharpFang> Just a process to learn, that you just do without thinking about it eventually.
04:54 <Ali> So any idea when the .17 will go live live?
04:55 <RazorSharpFang> A while.
04:57 <Cepheid> Ali, the experimental won't go stable for some months. It'll slow down on the updates eventually, though.
04:57 <RazorSharpFang> There have been quite a few game-breaking bugs in 0.17.x
04:57 <Cepheid> Making it somewhat more reliable to implement an auto-update and a server.
04:58 <Cepheid> But that is for another time.
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04:59 <Cepheid> I may implement the version checker tomorrow. Do so while updates are frequent.
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05:26 * Ali squeaks at DashedRainbows
05:29 * DashedRainbows barks and wags her tail
06:04 * Schism flumps into chat, and nomfs on Ali's hoof. And provides a slice of lemon meringue pie with extra floof.
06:04 * Ali squeaks
06:05 * Schism also pours some whipped chocolate cream atop floof.
06:06 <Schism> (I refuse to say whether or not this is a slice of lemon meringue pie with a Filly_Nightmares atop.)
06:09 * DashedRainbows sniffs Ali and applies some oil
06:25 * DashedRainbows just sniffs everyhorse before trotting off
06:40 * PinkieShy hands DashedRainbows a potion to become a pony for life.
06:40 * PinkieShy also hugs Dashed
06:42 * DashedRainbows whinnies
06:43 * DashedRainbows lays on her back by PinkieShy
06:56 * Ali wants that potion
06:59 <DashedRainbows> I bet many do
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07:08 * DashedRainbows chews on Ali's hooves
07:08 * Ali squeaks loudly again
07:08 <Schism> Ehhhh, I'd kinda hold off on drinking that potion, just in case. (For reasons.)
07:09 * DashedRainbows applies more oil
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07:10 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
07:11 * DashedRainbows sits by ConfusionRift wagging her tail
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07:14 <Schism> "That's interesting. So the strength of a unicorn's glow implies both the power of the spell and the power of the unicorn, due to thaumic overflow. Wouldn't it then follow that casting a spell /without/ a glow implies efficiency?"
07:15 <RazorSharpFang> Schism, No, casting without visual or auditory effect requires additional power to muffle said effects.
07:16 <ConfusionRift> Now on the market, horn silencers!
07:17 <ConfusionRift> "Why not just put a hat on it?" | HUSH!
07:17 <Schism> That doesn't parse, though. The glow and sound both mean leakage from the spell itself.
07:17 * DashedRainbows ponies all over Schism
07:17 * Schism unicorns suddenly. o3o
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07:18 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: My Little Pony: Season 9 Premiere Meetups! Send Them in! [ http://tinyurl.com/yydskcjk ]
07:19 <Schism> Like a processor throwing off heat, shouldn't that auditory or visual component mean that some portion of the energy is wasted?
07:19 <RazorSharpFang> Schism, that's unavoidable. There is no "just do this without any leakage". The nature of magic is similar to the nature of thermodynamics.
07:20 <Schism> True, but as with any system, the mark of a good program is that it throws off as little as possible.
07:20 <RazorSharpFang> In the same way that energy naturally wants to become heat, magic wants to produce these effects. Efficiency /may/ improve as the wizard improves, but powerful spells without effect quickly becomes an impossibility.
07:21 <Schism> Mentally, it might be more /complex/ to pull something off without wasting any extraneous energy, but it should be possible to minimize the signature.
07:21 <RazorSharpFang> Right, through ditching efficiency and muffling. Expending extra energy specifically to minimise those effects.
07:22 <ConfusionRift> I think the idea was that if one is proficient enough, it would be possible to cast more complex spells with lowered visual diffusion and energy use?
07:22 * DashedRainbows rolls over beside ConfusionRift
07:23 <RazorSharpFang> Unlike energy in a materialistic sense, there is permitted the destruction of {{ MAGIC_SYSTEM_UNIT_NAME }}
07:23 * ConfusionRift pets DashedRainbows. :P
07:23 <Schism> In effect, yeah. Of course, on the visual level, you can always upscale or downscale the thaumic signature until it either turns infrared or ultraviolet.
07:24 * DashedRainbows pants and falls asleep
07:24 <ConfusionRift> Or supernova. :P
07:24 <RazorSharpFang> Mind you, they could always have listeners for magical effects directly, or for spikes in radiation.
07:25 <ConfusionRift> And I would imagine that eventually someone... somepony would develop a device that can pick those up.
07:25 * ConfusionRift adds that to his continuity.
07:25 <RazorSharpFang> You may not even need to develop the device, it could be a spell itself.
07:25 <Schism> And sound should be simple enough to work with.
07:25 <RazorSharpFang> If I were to develop a magic system, I'd have an API for that. :3
07:25 <ConfusionRift> "This headcannon is mine. There are many like it, but this one is mine." :P
07:27 <Schism> "Whatever you're using to break this world, I want you to stop using it /right now./"
07:28 <ConfusionRift> "Never!" (warps out... because he can?) | Mary Suuuuueeeeeeee!!!
07:29 <ConfusionRift> Truth be told, it's kinda hard to avoid that.
07:29 <Schism> Mary Sues don't have to deal with the consequences. If my character ever breaks the world that way, she /will./ And it won't end very pleasantly.
07:30 <RazorSharpFang> Well, those sorts of things depends on how magic fundamentally /IS/ as in its nature.
07:30 <Schism> Also, how magic's fundamentally been dealt with.
07:31 <Schism> How people view and use magic can lead to a very different society.
07:32 <ConfusionRift> Like putting up this citadel with ponies that develop ways to work with their differences and slowly remove the "a type a pony can only do a specific task" problem?
07:33 <Schism> Or putting up a citadel on a mountaintop, with a government which says that ponies can only do the tasks they're marked for.
07:33 <RazorSharpFang> Well, rather than "Only X" it could be "I'm way better at Y, but I /COULD/ do X, but that's harder, and I'd rather not?"
07:34 <ConfusionRift> Funny, because a precursor of said citadel was a complete separation of disciplines, and one of them basically instilled rules to keep oneself to very specific tasks and expert in said tasks.
07:35 <ConfusionRift> And it was on a mountain top.
07:35 <Schism> Best of all, unicorns were kept at the tip, because horns are pointy.
07:35 * Schism coughs.
07:35 <ConfusionRift> ...
07:35 <ConfusionRift> Boo this pony!
07:36 <Schism> Sorry, couldn't resist. Though I suspect that was part of Princess Platinum's claims...
07:43 * Filly_Nightmares noms Schism
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07:45 * Schism flops, then noms upon Filly_Nightmares' floof. And also boops with a plate of... hmm, surf and turf platter with linguine and crusted steak and lemon-pepper-tossed shrimp and paprika scallops!
07:45 <Schism> (And asparagus. Gotta have those greens.)
07:45 * Filly_Nightmares spins around her new food and skrees wildly!
07:46 <Schism> And, for dessert... melon ice cream. o3o
07:46 <Schism> Well, melon ice, anyway.
07:48 * Filly_Nightmares lickies Schism wif floof
07:56 * ConfusionRift is given a glass with ice cube made with melon use.
07:56 <ConfusionRift> 0_0
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08:03 <RAIDEN_48HR> Hewwo 69
08:03 <RAIDEN_48HR> !hugs
08:04 <ConfusionRift> Hello.
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08:06 <RAIDEN_48HR> like 3am for me OwO
08:08 <RAIDEN_48HR> it seems like an update for discord is released every 20 minutes
08:10 <ConfusionRift> Yep, thaaaat is Discord. :P
08:21 <Schism> Egh. I need a styptic. Half my face is covered in small cuts.
08:21 <Schism> And little slices of tissue.
08:21 <Schism> Been using an electric razor for a long while, that's why.
08:22 <RAIDEN_48HR> ow
08:22 <RAIDEN_48HR> aka 2/3rds of an OwO
08:29 <ConfusionRift> Ah... hmmm... (looks at it) Not wrong...
08:33 * ConfusionRift patpats Schism.
08:36 <Schism> "Insanity is... doing the same thing over and over, and expecting the result to change. Starswirl said that." "Full marks, Princess. In your case, though, Starswirl was wrong. You do the same thing, day after day - hah - and expect things not to change. Not your fault, though. Not entirely."
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08:38 * ConfusionRift hears the conversation, and keeps quiet. Notices G.S., who is now prodding him to speak. Sighs and explains. "I'm sure that came before Starswirl, but don't want to... you know... start anything." G.S. nods and lets him be.
08:39 <Schism> Mwehe. Just a random thought. He might have heard it from someone else... who heard it from someone else...
08:39 <ConfusionRift> That was the idea. :P
08:40 <Schism> Withers of giants. o3o
08:40 <ConfusionRift> It was basically an old saying from a vagabond who was deemed insane, yet all his knowledge ringed true many years after his/her passing.
08:41 <ConfusionRift> I... yeah, you get it.
08:42 <ConfusionRift> Not that he stole it, but rather adopted it and was given credit due to his writing.
08:42 <Schism> You ever heard the story of Discord's Waterfall?
08:42 <Schism> o3o;
08:44 <ConfusionRift> "How does one eat an elephant? One step at a time." | That's just wrong. | "It's a saying." | That's what I'm saying. It's just wrong... and why? | "It's just another way of relaying a message!" | That somepony eats elephants? | (sighs and leaves) | :P
08:44 <ConfusionRift> Nope, not familiar with it.
08:47 <Schism> Back in the day, Discord wasn't just a spirit of random chaos -- though, of course, he still was himself. He'd create remarkable wonders for the ponies of the land, things which we could only dream of to this day. And one of these was a waterfall, a glimmering beauty of silver and jewels, which would each day play a small melody, rendered as if from instruments nopony had ever witnessed.
08:48 <Schism> Some days these melodies would be cacophonous, sometimes, harmonious, and other times, simply... random.
08:49 <Schism> In those days, the King and Queen held court with a musician, the finest in the land, who would bring from his voice and his stringed lute stories from all across the land.
08:49 <Schism> The court would enjoy these melodies, and often remark upon them -- but the musician had never once created his own work. And one day Discord smiled, and whispered into the right ears, and advised the musician in his own inimitable fashion, to visit the waterfall.
08:51 <Schism> Exactly what the musician heard that day has never been recorded into melody, but immediately he was struck with a fell mood, as such things go. But when he attempted to put quill to parchment, to relay that melody, it drifted from his mind like a fading dream.
08:52 <Schism> For a year and a day, it's said, he waited by the waterfall to repeat -- for it to once more provide him with that inspiration which, it's said, would give him his magnum opus. But not once did it do so.
08:53 <ConfusionRift> This sounds very familiar.
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08:53 <Schism> Quietly, he scrabbled at parchment, hoping ever more that the brief notes of that brilliant tune might once more appear. But it did not. And quietly, he faded from the court. And faded from the world. Twenty years passed.
08:54 <Schism> Some time later, an unknown stallion gave a command performance of a single symphony, the sheets of which burst into flame upon its completion -- but that symphony, delivered to the court, was a unique and majestic experience, such that the world has never seen before, and may never see again. And from there, he retired forevermore.
08:55 <Schism> Every now and then, ponies might still hear a scrap of that symphony, a small echo of musical phrase. But perhaps that's just imagination.
08:55 <Finwe> Morning, my tiny equines.
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08:56 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift, Mr Schism, Miss Filly_Nightmares.
08:56 <Finwe> o7
08:56 <Schism> These days, the waterfall has dried up. And Discord has never given a repeat performance. That, after all... would be boring. And perhaps some things are best held in memory.
08:56 * Filly_Nightmares wigglewaggles at Finwe and eees for rubs
08:57 <Schism> The ephimeral, after all, has a beauty of its own.
08:57 * Schism bows, then doffs his theremin for rAdm. Finwe.
08:58 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)
08:58 * ConfusionRift claps for Schism's performance.
08:59 * Schism bows once more, and then boops ConfusionRift. "You might be thinking of a few other similar stories. Trickster gods do tend to share them."
08:59 <RazorSharpFang> Argh, it's so flippin humid today.
08:59 <Schism> Or perhaps that one was just one I'd heard...
09:00 <Schism> "True story, heard it from a friend of a friend of mine."
09:01 <ConfusionRift> Read loads of stories that had this type of ending.
09:02 <Schism> Sheogorath and his madness have some similarities, too.
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09:03 <ConfusionRift> Many stories from overseas were like this, except they tended to end sour, or just sad.
09:04 <Schism> Tales of trickster deities, like the spider... o3o
09:05 <Schism> And the rabbit, and the fox.
09:05 <Schism> Down south, sometimes the kangaroo.
09:06 <Schism> And of course, the coyote.
09:08 <ConfusionRift> Wait... something comes to mind.
09:08 <ConfusionRift> Yep, that darn singing frog. -_-
09:08 <Schism> Ah. Not /quite/ what I was going for there, no. XD
09:09 <Schism> This was more the ephemeral, "Oh gods, I've heard it, it was beautiful, now I have to realize it" kind of muse of dreams.
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09:10 <ConfusionRift> I know it's not the same. I just kinda associated it with that.
09:10 <Schism> That's a sane enough association. And Discord would LOVE Michigan J. Frog.
09:12 <ConfusionRift> I can just imagine the frog jumping off the guys cell windows, and Discord just picking him up.
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09:12 <Schism> Better yet, someone using that frog /against/ Discord.
09:12 <Schism> "Wait, I didn't do that."
09:13 <ConfusionRift> Oh that would be just fantastic. :P
09:13 <ConfusionRift> "We all know you have your singing voice. But please, be more careful where you sing."
09:13 <Schism> "Oh, Fluttershy? Dearest Fluttershy? Would you be so kind as to take a look at this frog for me?" "I don't know what to say, really. It certainly seems an ordinary frog to me."
09:14 <Schism> Thirty seconds later, when Fluttershy's stepped into the kitchen, he does a duet with Angel Bunny, who sings in a basso profundo.
09:16 <Schism> "But... but these two were singing!" "I appreciate you serenading me, Discord, but you really shouldn't get these two involved in your pranks."
09:16 <ConfusionRift> "Wow, didn't think you could get your voice that low." | "But it wasn't me, it was them!" (points at Angel and frog, who are just chirping and ribbiting) | "Oh, don't be silly."
09:17 <Schism> Yes. X3
09:19 <Schism> "And for your performance, one gallon jug of carrot juice, paid under the table."
09:19 <ConfusionRift> "After so much researching, testing, kinda prodding, and waiting upon waiting, I have determine that this is in FACT... just an ordinary Everfree frog."
09:20 <ConfusionRift> Why do I see this as Fluttershy pranking Discord? :P
09:20 <Schism> For some reason, I can see that too.
09:21 <Schism> Better yet, all the orchestral background music could be explained away as just Discord being Discord.
09:21 * ConfusionRift nods.
09:22 * ConfusionRift has a terrible idea.
09:22 <Schism> Does it involve Gummy?
09:22 <ConfusionRift> I'm gonna test the OBS recording with this setup, while on chat, and on a Steam game. Wanna see how bad it can get.
09:23 <Schism> Ohh...kay. You do that. o.o
09:23 <ConfusionRift> Actually, I was also thinking that it's Fluttershy pranking Discord, but she tell no one about it. So she ends up basically pranking everyone else. :P
09:24 <ConfusionRift> But of course, Pinkie is the one who catches on to it, and also tells no one.
09:24 <Schism> At one point, the frog operatically serenades Gummy, who reacts in his inimitable fashion.
09:25 <ConfusionRift> He has the high pitches. :P
09:26 <Schism> <Discord> *slams door, looking horrified, then peeks in and the opera resumes, followed by another door slam* Something has gone very wrong.
09:27 <Schism> Bonus points if the door is next to an open window, but the soundtrack still cuts off on cue.
09:28 <ConfusionRift> "Well... I... of course I'm relieved that this frog was actually singing... and it wasn't just me going crazy. Actually, crazier... you get what I'm saying. And the duet with Angel? Just wonderful." | "Oh of course... wait... Angel can't sing." | "HAAAAHahahahaaaahaaa... heh... hmmmm."
09:36 <Schism> Come to think, the skit could work quite well with Trixie, too.
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09:48 <ConfusionRift> Well, it recorded. It just looks like garbage.
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10:33 <ConfusionRift> Okay, now it looks rather ni-aaaAAAAAHHH! Half a GB for a 1.5 minute video?! Nope!
10:36 <RazorSharpFang> Are you rendering flash video?
10:36 <ConfusionRift> MP4, not FLV.
10:37 <RazorSharpFang> Do you have ffmpeg?
10:38 <ConfusionRift> Yep.
10:38 <RazorSharpFang> For a high-quality flash render, it'll render to RAWVIDEO, you'll want to encode that down into something users can appreciate.
10:39 <RazorSharpFang> And half a gig for a 1.5 minute clip sounds small actually if it's HD-1080.
10:42 <RazorSharpFang> Should I presume you're good with ffmpeg, or do you want an example command? :3
10:43 <ConfusionRift> I know basically nothing. I'm just using OBS as a recorder, also checking how the system behaves when recording.
10:43 <RazorSharpFang> Wait, you've generated half a gig for a video file that's 1.5 minutes using OBS?
10:45 <ConfusionRift> Yep.
10:47 <ConfusionRift> Okay, now it's 330MB for almost 2 minutes. It looks and sounds pretty decent.
10:51 * Filly_Nightmares noms ConfusionRift happily
10:55 * ConfusionRift patpats Filly_Nightmares. :P
11:03 <ConfusionRift> Okay, seems reasonable now. And yes, trying to push HD-1080.
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11:19 <ConfusionRift> :P
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13:14 <DashedRainbows> howdy everyhorse
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13:42 <Sleeping_Nightmares> Nini!
13:42 <Sleeping_Nightmares> I wuv you forever!
13:44 * DashedRainbows wags her tail and licks the filly
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14:09 <Cepheid> Morning.
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15:02 * Cepheid works on a Factorio Version Check.
15:03 <Cepheid> Also occurs to me that I may not have to parse the HTML. I could just check and see what the game itself does to check for new versions.
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15:19 <Cepheid> Unfortunately, whatever they do to check, it's encrypted.
15:19 <Cepheid> So I can't use their approach.
15:19 <Cepheid> So I'll just have to do an HTTP get on the main website, and sort through the XML.
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15:36 <Cepheid> Hum.
15:37 <Cepheid> Well that's annoying as hell.
15:37 <Cepheid> This XML parser only parses the first node it sees then stops.
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16:06 * Cepheid facepalms.
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16:13 <Cepheid> I use libxml2 to parse the HTML, it fails since XML doesn't allow certain configurations that HTML allows.
16:14 <Cepheid> So I go "Okay, I'll use libxml's HTML parser"
16:14 <Cepheid> So I go and do that.
16:14 <Cepheid> It fails to parse because of unknown elements, in particular, <svg> and <desc> elements.
16:14 <Cepheid> It parses HTML4, not HTML5.
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16:27 <DashedRainbows> google has a parser in C that I've used before
16:27 <DashedRainbows> https://github.com/google/gumbo-parser
16:34 <Cepheid> Yeah, I've been looking around, checking them out.
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17:19 <Cepheid> Hum.
17:19 <Cepheid> Before I can do sprites, entities and the like, I need to define sprite sheets.
17:21 <Cepheid> Simplest approach is to just have each sprite be a single image, with no set restrictions on dimensions. Load up each image, throw it into an atlas, with the name of each sprite being the filename minus the extension.
17:22 <Cepheid> Next approach is a pre-computed sprite atlas, with associated file that specifies names and coordinates of sprites. This approach is faster to load, but has the potential for errors.
17:24 <Cepheid> Fortunately, animation is considerably easier for sprites.
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17:50 <Cepheid> I need some brackets for a shelf, they need to go out from the wall, then upwards.
17:51 <Cepheid> Because the mounting surface is unlevel.
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18:24 <Schism> For some reason, my memory returns a different film from the one displayed, too. https://twitter.com/TraceBeaulieu/status/1103776472173547522
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18:45 <PinkieShy> I'm so mad my blood has to be boiling at this point..
18:45 <PinkieShy> Fingerhut sent me a defective microwave, I ripped up the packaging as the box was so tight it wouldn't come out easily.. the return policy is Items that are damaged and not returned in original manufacturer's packaging may be denied a refund or exchange.
18:46 <PinkieShy> So chances are.. I'm stuck paying on $200 microwave that can't use.. and have to get another probably from walmart which will be $100 so altogether paid $300-$400 in the end for a microwave..
18:47 <PinkieShy> The new one is rocking back and forth the legs is all screwy like 2 of them are so short compared to the others its not level
18:47 <PinkieShy> and looks like a screw is missing in the box..
18:47 <PinkieShy> in the back***
18:49 * Ali hugs PinkieShy
18:51 * PinkieShy hugs Ali
19:01 <Cepheid> So, I got some hardware.
19:02 <Cepheid> Wireframe shelving unit, gonna cut it down to match my bedroom window's interior width.
19:02 <Cepheid> Mount it on the wall.
19:02 <Cepheid> Put a cushion on it.
19:02 <Cepheid> Large enough and long enough to handle two felines.
19:03 <Cepheid> The goal is to open the window over spring, summer, fall, and the rare day on Winter when it's nice out.
19:03 <Cepheid> And have the cats enjoy the outdoors.
19:05 <Cepheid> https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/chocobos-mystery-dungeon-every-buddy-switch Schism.
19:06 <Schism> Hah, nice.
19:07 <Cepheid> Seems like your kinda thing, mine as well. Too bad about the Switch-only thing.
19:07 <Schism> Aye, alas, no Switch.
19:07 <Cepheid> PC needs more Mystery Dungeon games.
19:07 <Cepheid> Well, technically it has plenty. Roguelikes, etc.
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19:08 <Cepheid> Maybe that'll be my next kind of game, a Mystery Dungeon game.
19:08 <Cepheid> Alternatively, an EO-style game. Speaking of EO, I need to get back to EON.
19:10 <Ali> I tried 20xx, I didn't like it even though I'm a megaman fan
19:11 <Cepheid> Oh? What's wrong with it
19:11 <Cepheid> ?
19:11 <Ali> Too easy
19:11 <Ali> And an artificial way of making things hard by having LAZORS everywhere
19:12 <Cepheid> Right.
19:12 <Cepheid> The randomness is also a thing, too. But, there's a great thing about games like it.
19:12 <Cepheid> You can set a specific seed.
19:12 <Cepheid> And I guarantee there are people who have found some particularly difficult seeds.
19:12 <Ali> I know
19:12 <Ali> By difficult
19:13 <Ali> I don't want 5000 lasers shooting at .1/second
19:13 <Cepheid> Hmm.
19:14 <Cepheid> How often do you play platformers, Ali? Honest question. Not just Megaman, either.
19:14 <Ali> Depends, I mean the only platformers I play nowadays are megaman
19:14 <Cepheid> That's fine in any case.
19:15 <Ali> Just I could beat 20xx with just the pea shotter
19:15 <Cepheid> But do you play them on normal, hard, easy, etc?
19:15 <Ali> Normal
19:15 <Cepheid> And do you do stuff like speedruns?
19:15 <Ali> I'm not THAT good at megaman
19:15 <Cepheid> A yes or no would have sufficed, in any case, the reason I'm asking?
19:15 <Ali> Sowwy
19:15 <Ali> I don't speedrun games
19:15 <Cepheid> No apology needed, just me commenting.
19:15 <Cepheid> Anyways, the reason I'm asking..
19:16 <Cepheid> When I get to doing the world design, I'm gonna need someone to test the difficulty of the platforming.
19:16 <Cepheid> Want to be one of the testers for that?
19:16 <Ali> I guess? Depends on the platforming I guess
19:16 <Ali> I mean I've seen some bad platforming in the megaman series
19:16 <Ali> AKA 1
19:16 <Ali> Some of those jumps were stupid
19:17 <Cepheid> You'd be looking for cases where jumps feel stupid, tricky, or combinations of stuff make certain jumps difficult to do.
19:17 <Cepheid> Plus whether or not the various elements make it overwhelming.
19:18 <Cepheid> I want to keep the platform mild, roughly. That is, not so difficult that you need pixel-perfect jumping(Though there may be one exception to stuff like this), but not so easy as to make it pointless.
19:19 <Cepheid> The exception will be for the hidden pathway to the dev room, etc.
19:19 * Ali nod nods
19:19 <Cepheid> Obviously, that should be tricky to find, and a tad unfair.
19:20 <Cepheid> Not as unfair as La-Mulana with it's Hell Temple, though.
19:20 <Cepheid> That's just downright cruel.
19:20 <Cepheid> "Go find this NPC hidden away using a clue that has no relevance. Go find this NPC. Now, sink in this infinite pit of lava for 20 screens and hit the right-hand side of the wall with a weapon, and hope you don't miss it."
19:29 <Schism> And because it's lava, you'd better have enough HP!
19:31 <Cepheid> Yes.
19:31 <Cepheid> I found the wall and got through the door with 6 HP left.
19:31 <Cepheid> The funny thing is, you *KNOW* the infinite pit's there, throughout the entire game.
19:32 <Cepheid> It's in a disconnected section of the Inferno Caverns, you can see it on the map. It's not hidden.
19:32 <Cepheid> Unlike Viy's room.
19:32 <Schism> Likewise, you can see that one room in the Tower of the Goddess, IIRC, but there's no clear way to get there and it seemingly serves no purpose.
19:32 <Cepheid> So you'll be trying to figure out how to get there for the longest time, when the reality is that it's not easy to get there, because it's part of a long, drawn out puzzle that has to be done in a very explicit, and specific way.
19:33 <Cepheid> And yeah, the door in the water, above the fallen tower.
19:33 <Schism> That bit with the upside-down door in the Gate of Extinction was pretty clever, though.
19:33 <Schism> Or Gate of Illusion, or whatever.
19:34 * DashedRainbows licks Ali a lot
19:34 * Ali squeaks at DashedRainbows
19:35 * DashedRainbows whinnies back
19:36 <DashedRainbows> I need to git gud at animation https://twitter.com/rhg135/status/1104465079301562368
19:36 <DashedRainbows> but first at drawing
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19:38 <Cepheid> That one wasn't really clever, it stood out, but it made sense given the clue.
19:38 <Cepheid> And I knew that it had to do with a fairy or item, so..
19:38 <Cepheid> That's why I knew what the clue for that one was referring to immediately.
19:43 <Cepheid> Guh. My head hurts.
19:43 <Cepheid> "I'm gonna blow that candle out, it smells like burning wax."
19:43 <Cepheid> ...
19:43 <Cepheid> Mother...
20:06 <Cepheid> There we go, nice perch for the cats.
20:07 <Cepheid> Only toook me 7 months since inception to completion.
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20:08 <Cepheid> Just need a picture of it now.
20:09 <Cepheid> That'll have to wait, though.
20:09 <Cepheid> Phone's dead.
20:20 <Cepheid> So, for the game. For the moment, collision detection's just gonna be quad-quad detection. I'll likely upgrade it to support ellipses, or heavens forbid, pixel-pixel collision at a later date.
20:21 <Cepheid> So I'll need a bounding box parameter for sprite data..
20:23 <Cepheid> Schism, thoughts. Bounding box per sprite/frame of sprite data? Or a static bounding box?
20:29 <Cepheid> ...
20:30 <Schism> Hrm. That's... tricky, to be honest.
20:30 <Cepheid> Static bounding box makes it easy for people to ensure that they're in the right place, etc.
20:31 <Cepheid> A constantly changing one results in needing to account for the exact frame, etc.
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20:32 <Cepheid> Hum, I'm not gonna store this in the spritesheet definition. I'll make the bounding box a thing that is defined by the entity itself.
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20:37 * SunsetShimmer is delicious
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21:03 <Cepheid> Ye know, I should play La-Mulana 2, finish it off.
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21:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #2915 [ http://tinyurl.com/y2a69ngf ]
21:08 * Ali snugs on Fall
21:08 <Fall> Hey Ali!
21:10 <Cepheid> Think I'll do that tonight. I'm assuming ADragonDreaming is off playing his own games, and I don't feel up to hunting monstas right now.
21:11 <Cepheid> Not burnout, just.. I dunno, feel like I shouldn't play it right now.
21:18 <Cepheid> Hum, need to toss around the pros and cons of using single-image atlasses and multi-image atlasses. Hum...
21:19 <Cepheid> On the single-image approach, what La-Mulana and many other games use, the primary benefit is speed. I just load the image in one fell swoop and it's good to go.
21:19 <Cepheid> However, it is harder to add new sprites to. It would need to be regenerated any time a new sprite is added, to ensure optimal packing.
21:20 <Cepheid> On the multi-image side, loading performance is the key player. I first have to load multiple images, and then I have to pack them together into a single texture atlas, and do all the math to calculate where everything is.
21:21 <Cepheid> So basically it takes longer. On the other hand, adding a new frame of animation or a new sprite is easy.
21:21 <Cepheid> If anything, performance would take the greatest hit on Windows, because for some danged reason, Windows is slow with opening and closing files constantly.
21:24 <Cepheid> That said, simply regenerating a single image isn't that difficult.
21:25 <Cepheid> Single-image it is. I'll just stitch the images together manually.
21:33 <Cepheid> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/366973034147479552/554054136476205076/20190309_163238.jpg
21:34 <Cepheid> The cross-stitch my mother made for me, sitting on the perch I made for the cats.
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22:20 <Cepheid> It's time to end this. *Loads up La-Mulana 2* Time to finish it, suffer, and put it behind me.
22:24 <Cepheid> Shop next to corridor of blood..
22:29 <PinkieShy> :(
22:29 <PinkieShy> The new mlp s9 trailer just hit me right in the feels..
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23:19 <Cepheid> Hum.
23:20 <Cepheid> The last 3 bosses of this area are forced. No way to escape after killing them.
23:20 <Cepheid> Hmm..
23:20 <Cepheid> That said, I missed a hidden wall, so..
23:21 <Cepheid> Aaaand it hides a sigil I can't activate.
23:33 <Schism> Whoop.
23:35 <Cepheid> Aaand there's how I get out.
23:36 <Cepheid> And there's only one boss left now.
23:37 <Cepheid> Problem is, there is no way for me to reliably get close.
23:37 <Cepheid> I need the Angel Shield.
23:37 <Cepheid> Which costs a staggering 1,000 gold.
23:39 <Schism> Time to find a good fairy or two, I guess.
23:39 <Cepheid> Alas, it's not that easy.
23:40 <Cepheid> Even with a fairy, it's still a lot of time to get that money.
23:40 <Cepheid> That said, I *COULD* make it easier if I cold solve this one puzzle.
23:40 <Schism> Mmm?
23:40 <Cepheid> There's a block in this area, it's apparently damageable, but only by the melee weapons, none of the subweapons.
23:40 <Cepheid> However, no matter how much I strike it, it doesn't break.
23:40 <Cepheid> I'm inclined to think it's a persistence thing.
23:45 <Schism> Hm. I seem to recall something similar in LM1.
23:46 <Schism> Dunno if it's a specific melee weapon you need, or something else to be activated, like running into it with the boots.
23:46 <Cepheid> Yeah, this thing just ain't breaking. If it needs something, it's something I currently lack.
23:46 <Cepheid> Right then, I guess I'll collect up 1000 gold.
23:46 <Cepheid> But that's gonna take at least half an hour with the changes to fairies and the mechanics.
23:47 <Schism> What's in there, anyway, do ya think?
23:47 <Cepheid> In that spot? Not a damned clue.
23:47 <Cepheid> Well, no.
23:47 <Cepheid> I know it's Miracle Witch.
23:47 <Cepheid> I got a clue that outright tells me.
23:47 <Schism> Ah. Which would then let you choose fairies.
23:47 <Schism> Is there perhaps a fairy which would assist in doing damage?
23:48 <Cepheid> There is, and a key fairy.
23:48 <Cepheid> Of them all, the key fairy seems most likely.
23:49 <Schism> Might be worth a shot. And I remember there are blocks in LM1 which could only be broken from one direction; any other, and they'd just give the crumbling animation, but nothing else.
23:49 <Cepheid> Key fairy.
23:49 <Schism> That did it?
23:50 <Cepheid> Well it did *SOMETHING*.
23:50 <Schism> Huh. Maybe it opened the actual chest inside.
23:50 <Cepheid> It unlocked something and left the "There's a secret here" key.
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23:51 <Cepheid> Still can't break anything... wonder if it needs multiple fairies.
23:55 <Cepheid> Hum.
23:55 <Cepheid> Bombs.
23:55 <Cepheid> The blocks that did the same thing in LM1 required bombs.
23:55 <Schism> Hm, that would fit.
23:57 <Cepheid> Nope.
23:57 <Cepheid> Bombs make the sound that indicates they can't damage the block.
23:58 <Schism> Hrmf. What's the room look like?
23:58 <Schism> And I remember that room with the blocks. Hell Temple, the one with the slimes where you need bombs to destroy each block.
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