Log archive of EquestriaDaily for Wednesday, 2019-03-20

00:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Pony Community Soapbox #133 - Equestria GUYS, Cozy and Tirek Friendship, Supporting SFW Artists, and More!   [ http://tinyurl.com/y4vfswel ]

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01:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Fan Comics: Meets Crowd #3 / Shadows of the Past #41 / Ponies in the Outfield Final / The Great Big Fusion #7  [ http://tinyurl.com/y3j5dlso ]

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01:29 <Vulpor> Hey all

01:33 * Ali flops on Vulpor for no real reason

01:52 <Vulpor> Has anyone seen this Stadia thing?

01:52 <Vulpor> holy moly

01:53 <Vulpor> Google is freaking mad men

02:03 <Vulpor> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjJPd576bMk

02:04 <Vulpor> Its the presser by Google I highly reccomend you look at this

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02:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1744 [ http://tinyurl.com/yyxsvvwm ]

02:09 <Cepheid> Gonna flop.  Should flop.  I forsee so many problems with it.

02:09 <Cepheid> Some of them being moral problems.  Others legal.

02:18 <Vulpor> If it works technically though

02:18 <Vulpor> Google is big enough to beat the legal stuff

02:19 <DashedRainbows> yeah, pfft laws

02:19 <Vulpor> I guess I am not following the legal problem

02:20 <Vulpor> If a developer and a publisher want their game on this thing what's the issue

02:21 <Vulpor> The server handles all of this

02:22 <Vulpor> in terms of the graphics and such

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02:38 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Pony Community Soapbox #133 - Equestria GUYS, Cozy and Tirek Friendship, Supporting SFW Artists, and More!   [ http://tinyurl.com/y4vfswel ]

02:39 <Stormspark> streaming is garbage

02:39 <Stormspark> the entire idea is terrible

02:39 <Stormspark> and needs to die

02:40 <Stormspark> I'm actually glad Google is doing it.  Because when a huge company like Google does it, and it flops like it should, then it will dissuade other companies from trying it, and this fad will go away

02:41 <Stormspark> I will never stream a game.  I will not play a game unless it runs locally on my hardware.  If the industry were to completely go that way (it won't, it will never be practical because of the speed of light), I would just stop buying games, and go completely retro

02:42 <Cepheid> The idea would be more sound if the network were actually able to handle, didn't introduce considerable latency, and also didn't involve people using their wifi to use it.

02:42 <Stormspark> it's not sound though, because it means you don't get to own anything.  All games would be subscription based

02:42 <Stormspark> screw that

02:43 <Stormspark> entirely locally on my hardware (with the occasional exception of servers for optional online modes, thinking of stuff like Mario Kart and Smash here), or not at all

02:43 <Cepheid> Also, if it wouldn't give ISPs to add their on excessive charges on top.

02:43 <Stormspark> games that are streaming only do not exist to me

02:43 <Cepheid> I know it's broken, Stormspark.

02:43 <Stormspark> I can kind of see things like MMO's too, but they are a different beast entirely, and the client does run locally

02:44 <Stormspark> but anyway, I'm kind of glad Google is doing it, hopefully they will accelerate the death of this garbage

02:45 <Cepheid> You'd think OnLive would have tipped them off.

02:46 <Stormspark> I hope that all developers and publishers that go on it (especially if they try to do exclusives) fail and lose a ton of money too

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03:01 <Schism> Ahh.  3.14159 apples.

03:02 * DashedRainbows adds 0.000006

03:03 <Schism> But yes, that with some vanilla ice cream.

03:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: My Little Pony Cosplay Compilation #82 [ http://tinyurl.com/y6jlwr53 ]

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03:18 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Note: EQD is Currently a Little Derpy, Please Spread the Word  [ http://tinyurl.com/yytqnxek ]

03:22 <Finwe> Messrs Schism and Cepheid, Mlles Ali and DashedRainbows.

03:22 * Finwe doffs his hat.

03:22 * Ali doffs over Finwe

03:23 * DashedRainbows sniffs Finwe and waves

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03:31 <Schism> rAdm. Finwe.

03:31 * Schism doffs his apple pie a la mode, and shares some with Ali too.

03:38 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Test [ http://tinyurl.com/y5xu58u3 ]

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04:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Note: EQD is Currently a Little Derpy, Please Spread the Word  [ http://tinyurl.com/yytqnxek ]

04:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: More Pony Music! Tributes, Experimental, and Heavy Metal! [ http://tinyurl.com/yywc2n92 ]

04:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: My Little Pony Cosplay Compilation #82 [ http://tinyurl.com/y6jlwr53 ]

04:27 <SilentVigil> Ugh, wewnt for a short nap, slept 5 hours

04:40 <DashedRainbows> sounds familiar

04:44 * SilentVigil indeed was thinking about that.

04:45 * DashedRainbows licks SilentVigil

04:45 * SilentVigil got up a little after 9AM today, which for her is early, as she normally works second shift.

04:52 * DashedRainbows goes around sniffing random horses

04:57 * Ali boops SilentVigil and yawns

04:58 * SilentVigil yawns and kisses DashedRainbows and Ali.

05:06 <DashedRainbows> 0.o

05:06 * Schism offers DashedRainbows a slice of apple pie... with cheese on top.

05:07 * DashedRainbows noms and wags her tail hard

05:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Roundup #1486 [ http://tinyurl.com/yyhufhgh ]

05:13 * DashedRainbows also licks the cute pony, Ali

05:13 * Ali ish not cute

05:13 <Schism> Hm, that is indeed a cute pony.

05:14 <DashedRainbows> ~cute~

05:14 <DashedRainbows> Meh

05:15 * Ali ish not cute!!!

05:15 * DashedRainbows sniffs Ali too

05:17 * Ali ish sniffed

05:22 <DashedRainbows> You smell like like cute unicorn but that's just me

05:37 * Ali is not cute though

05:43 <DashedRainbows> :/

05:50 * DashedRainbows wags her tail to the music

05:50 * Ali hears no music

05:51 <DashedRainbows> It's in my head

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05:54 * Golden flops. He has been awake for sometime painting a total of eleven figures.

05:55 * Golden has about thirty in all, and has ten left.

05:56 <Ali> Be glad you're not Tyranids then

05:56 <Ali> That would only be like 200 points

05:57 <Golden> I calculated and have 633 points. Not counting melee, plasma weaps, or flamers.

05:58 <Ali> See the cheapest Nid is 4 points

05:58 <Ali> They can squad up to 30

05:58 <Ali> So its 120 points for 30 bodies

05:59 <Golden> Jesus

05:59 <Ali> They're not good at anything though, just bodies

05:59 <Ali> They'd have a one shot S3 pistol

06:02 <Golden> Yikes

06:04 <Schism> Oh, Ali.  Have you heard the news about MtG sellers unwrapping the boxes, grabbing all the good rares, shuffling in bad ones, and then resealing them?

06:05 <Ali> I have

06:05 <Ali> But I only go to a local game store

06:05 <Schism> Mm.  Just making sure -- and good, good.

06:06 <Ali> I mean I've opened shocks, foil shocks, and Krasis

06:06 <Ali> So I don't think the boxes have been altered

06:06 <Schism> Yeah, you're probably good.  ^^;

06:06 * Golden also has a lass canon razorback

06:07 * Ali has a Las Cannon Leman Russ

06:07 <Ali> Razorbacks aren't ment to move anywhere

06:07 <Ali> Just sit and fire Las Cannon shots

06:07 <Schism> Ali: Ah, Lemon Rush, the great earth pony.

06:08 * Ali boops the Schism nosie

06:08 <Ali> Schism, I guess you mess with MTG?

06:08 <Schism> On rare occasion, this one's just been all over the place.

06:08 <Golden> The guy down at my gw store said that it was a good choice to deal with transports.

06:08 <Ali> Well it has a Twin Las Cannon now

06:08 <Ali> So it shoots twice

06:09 <Ali> But doesn't like to move much and has a 5 man transport capasity

06:09 * Ali also is bad at spelling forgive her for that.

06:11 <Golden> The guy down there said the thirty I have is good for a small game.

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06:31 <Ali> I'm sure, but Nids are a silly swarm army

06:33 <Golden> They operate off Biomass right?

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06:42 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.

06:43 <Golden> Yo

06:46 * DashedRainbows sits by ConfusionRift and wags her tail

06:49 * ConfusionRift pets DashedRainbows. :P

06:50 * DashedRainbows licks ConfusionRift and pants

07:01 * DashedRainbows trots off to bed

07:05 <Ali> In the lore yes Golden

07:05 <Ali> But they're like any other army on the table top just have different choices

07:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Let the Starlight Shine - Starlight Glimmer Day Begins! [ http://tinyurl.com/y5arbbxh ]

07:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by The Illustrious Q: My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic #76 Released Today! - Download Links, Variants, Discussion! [ http://tinyurl.com/yy5la2uc ]

07:09 <Golden> I was speaking in lore terms :P

07:15 <Golden> Anyway night guys

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09:07 <Koopz> >Mahjong for dummies

09:07 <Koopz> >32 slides Power Point

09:09 <Koopz> i don't even want to know how long a "Shogi for dummies" guide would be

09:11 <Schism> Hah.

09:11 * ConfusionRift drops his "Java for beginners" book. It breaks through the table.

09:17 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift.

09:17 <Finwe> o7

09:17 <Finwe> Capt Koopz.

09:17 <Finwe> o7

09:18 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)

09:18 <Koopz> RAdm. Finwe o7

09:20 * ConfusionRift is tired of looking through motherboards. "Aaargh, which?!"

09:26 <Koopz> the one with the most RGB

09:26 <Koopz> obviously

09:27 <ConfusionRift> The only RGB on this build would be the RAM, and that's because... okay, I have a large case with a clear window. I wanna see that my system is running. :P

09:28 <Koopz> of all components that could potentially have RGB LEDs you choose the RAM?

09:28 <Finwe> :0

09:28 * Finwe boops ConfusionRift.

09:29 <ConfusionRift> To be honest, I might just end up ditching it for standard RAM.

09:29 <Finwe> Koopz: One does not simply underestimate the power of memory banks with RGB leds. o3o

09:30 <Koopz> bad choice imo if i take a look at my build sporting an Alpenföhn Brocken 2

09:30 <Koopz> https://www.alpenfoehn.de/en/products/cpu-cooler/brocken-3-en

09:30 <ConfusionRift> Originally, I was gonna go with LED ones (not RGB), but those seemed to have issues with some newer boards.

09:31 <Koopz> one of my RAM banks is being covered by this thing

09:32 <Koopz> i had quite the struggle fitting it into my cube case :D

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09:32 <ConfusionRift> CPU?

09:32 <Koopz> since there was a 200mm fan blowing from the top i couldn't even attach the "CPU Fan" to it

09:33 <Koopz> so now i got my "CPU Fan" blowing air out of the case in the back xD

09:34 <Koopz> hmm... what was it again

09:35 <Koopz> iirc it's an i5-7600K

09:36 <Finwe> https://www.circa.com/video/2019/03/12/dogs/a-new-york-man-and-his-dog-rescues-two-dogs-in-an-icy-lake

09:36 <ConfusionRift> Aah, K series. Explains the cooler. Still, I'm curious about this thing.

09:36 <Finwe> Hmm, I think that the animals in the film are...

09:36 * Finwe puts on glasses.

09:36 <Finwe> Reservoir Dogs.

09:37 <Finwe> *yeeeaaaaahhhhhhhh*

09:37 <ConfusionRift> Boo this man! :P

09:37 <Koopz> i OC'ed it to 4.6GHz

09:38 <Koopz> only getting problems in the summer ;D

09:38 <Koopz> then i'm running on 4.5

09:39 <ConfusionRift> Yeah. I have never overclocked a system, and I think that maybeeee I wanna keep out for the time being.

09:40 <ConfusionRift> And also summers do get stupid around here as well. :P

09:40 <RazorSharpFang> Hey heys

09:40 <RazorSharpFang> I had my first day of work today.

09:41 <ConfusionRift> "Flip flops are a very bad idea around here."

09:41 <ConfusionRift> Huzzah! How was it?

09:41 <Koopz> Crogs too

09:41 <RazorSharpFang> Was pretty good. I'm working on getting logging working for their application. :3

09:42 <Finwe> Koopz: I thought that all serious guys run something like i9-9900K or similar nowadays.

09:43 <Koopz> i'm not serious though

09:43 <Koopz> i no longer live at my parents place

09:44 <Finwe> s/run/ran/

09:44 <Koopz> meaning a lot of my income goes poof to keep myself alive

09:44 <Finwe> Since when has that been a measure of seriousness?

09:44 <Finwe> Ah, I see.

09:44 <Koopz> can't afford blowing money into ridiculous equipment :/

09:45 <Koopz> also still have a GTX 980

09:45 <Koopz> but i got an M.2 SSD ;D

09:45 <Finwe> o3o!

09:46 <Koopz> NVMe obviously

09:46 <Koopz> still my build is the weakest around my friends

09:46 <Finwe> https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Intel-i9-9900K-vs-Intel-i5-7600K/3334vs2919

09:46 <Finwe> i9-9900K would be a clear upgrade. o3o

09:47 <ConfusionRift> Eeerm, slight hiccup.

09:47 <Koopz> there's a problem though

09:47 <Koopz> i bought a motherboard with a Z270 chipset

09:47 <ConfusionRift> Is the 9900K even compatible with his board... never mind. That's a nope.

09:48 <Finwe> They use the same socket, eeenope?

09:49 <Koopz> that's the problem

09:49 <ConfusionRift> BIOS and the chipset.

09:49 <Koopz> i bought the motherboard, thinking i can replace the CPU later on

09:50 <Koopz> only to be angered through the roof by an announcement that the 8th generation CPUs are only working on the newly announced Z370 chipset

09:50 <Finwe> Ah, I see.

09:50 <ConfusionRift> And the 9th gens on the Z390.

09:51 <Koopz> iirc when they asked Intel for a reason behind this, they answered that this decision was made to help the motherboard sales

09:52 <ConfusionRift> I mean, supposedly, you COULD adapt and configure and rig an 8th and 9th gen to work on your board. The problem is if you SHOULD. I heard some horror stories about that.

09:52 <Finwe> An old Apple trick.

09:52 <Koopz> https://tenor.com/view/disney-hades-upset-what-angry-gif-6064801 me when i read that

09:52 <Finwe> A local computer store is constantly overdoing it a bit: https://www.jimms.fi/en/Product/Show/144621/8pack-supernova/8pack-supernova-pelitietokone

09:53 <Finwe> It's all in Finnish although I chose the English site, but I think that you get the point.

09:53 <Finwe> A bargain at €16,499. o3o

09:53 <Koopz> 2x6TB WD Reds 5.9k RPM

09:53 <Koopz> please

09:54 <Koopz> "here's a beast build, but we only put in 5.9k RPM HDDs lol"

09:54 <ConfusionRift> Higher cache though.

09:55 <Finwe> Plus 2.5 terabytes of SSD.

09:55 <ConfusionRift> Also, reds are for NAS.

09:55 <Koopz> why put in 3 different types of SSDs in there though?

09:56 <Finwe> No idea. As I said, some of their computers just don't make any sense.

09:56 <ConfusionRift> Oh, there are the 7.2K- (pukes oil)

09:56 <ConfusionRift> That's a $120 difference!

09:58 <ConfusionRift> And forget'chu, Seagate. :P

10:01 <Koopz> also 16k are a joke

10:01 <Koopz> https://www.caseking.de/en/8pack-orion-x2-i9-7980xe-4-6-ghz-i9-9700k-5-0-ghz-extreme-oc-system-sipc-264.html

10:02 <Koopz> why bother with one rig if you can fit in two?

10:03 <ConfusionRift> That's a sardine canned dual rig... and it's water cooled. Sheesh!

10:04 <Finwe> Koopz: Wheez, €40k. :0

10:04 * ConfusionRift thinks about it. "Or I can ditch the GTX-1070ti for a better board, and continue using the RX 580."

10:05 <Finwe> Pfft, just invest the €40k for the one pasted by Koopz.

10:06 <Finwe> It'll save you the trouble of ever having to upgrade.

10:07 <ConfusionRift> $45,400...

10:07 * ConfusionRift hears his wallet explode, leaving a crater.

10:08 <ConfusionRift> Also, the maintenance later down the line.

10:08 <ConfusionRift> Ooooh, the maintenance...

10:08 <Koopz> tfw you pay 40k for this monster and are outdated in about 8 years

10:09 <Koopz> maybe you should've bought a nice car with that money

10:09 <Finwe> It's not enough for a Tesla. o3o

10:10 <Koopz> still not sure if i'd drive a Tesla in germany

10:10 <Finwe> The one called Höllenmaschine has an impressive sound to it.

10:10 <ConfusionRift> To be honest, my i5-4590 still feels comfy nowadays. I just want to get something new, especially since I do have some plans that my current system might not be able to handle.

10:10 <Koopz> Hellmachine

10:10 <Finwe> Indeed.

10:12 <Finwe> Bist du ein Deutscher?

10:12 <Koopz> i love how i'm the one with the weakest GPU in my group of LAN enthusiasts but the only one having a 4k monitor

10:12 <Koopz> sure am

10:12 <ConfusionRift> Also, should I just get a higher tier i5, or a lower tier i7? Hmmmmm...

10:12 <Koopz> imo i7 aren't worth it unless... idk what you plan to do on that thing

10:13 <Koopz> honestly i'd actually consider an AMD CPU for server usage

10:13 <Koopz> or heavy workstation stuff

10:14 <Koopz> gotta admit they do a good job at multicore processing

10:14 <Koopz> not so much needed in a gaming rig since the devs still can't make proper use of multithreading

10:15 <ConfusionRift> hence why the larger multi-core/multithread CPUs don't work well for gaming.

10:16 <Finwe> Both our computation severs have twin-Xeon-E5-2670 with 16 cores each.

10:16 <Koopz> Benchmarks even showed that enabled Hyperthreading actually slowed games down

10:16 <Finwe> Yup.

10:16 <Koopz> since the 2 threads were slowing down each other

10:16 <Finwe> But that's mostly because of poor programming, not because of poor chip design.

10:22 <RazorSharpFang> Because you want entity updates to occur in under 16ms, dispatching a thread for each object each update might be untenable.

10:24 <RazorSharpFang> Also, since entities want to read other entities, or perhaps update other entities, that's problematic for multithreading.

10:28 <ConfusionRift> i5... it is... okay, that makes no sense. Why is the 8700 cheaper than the 8600, or even 8500?

10:29 <Koopz> maybe they got too many of them on stock?

10:42 <ConfusionRift> It's one of the reasons why I was looking into the i7.

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11:03 * ConfusionRift RGBs Koopz. :P

11:03 <ConfusionRift> You now look like a unicorn on invincibility.

11:06 <Koopz> ooooh~ do i ship with Razer Chroma support? o3o

11:10 <ConfusionRift> Yes-indeedy!

11:11 * ConfusionRift puts a Razer mouse on his head, and keyboard on his back. 10000% RGB!

11:18 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1517 [ http://tinyurl.com/y5czd42r ]

11:34 <Koopz> damn

11:35 <ConfusionRift> o_0

11:35 <Koopz> i forgot the site that i used to play mahjong on

11:35 <Koopz> now my google results is full of the solitaire version >_>

11:35 <RazorSharpFang> Wouldn't it be in your history?

11:36 <Koopz> ah... indeed

11:37 <Koopz> a month ago...

11:37 <Schism> TIL nobody knows how to do Sephirot EX.

11:40 <Koopz> there's a bunch of primaes i've never heard of

11:41 <Koopz> even though i *think* i have unlocked everything

11:42 <Koopz> or at least i unlocked everything *relevant* in the current content

11:43 <Koopz> there's a bunch of dungeons i have yet to complete from HW which are connected to blue quests rotting in my quest log

11:49 <Schism> Most likely... including Sophia et al.

12:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Starlight Glimmer Discussion: Episode Ideas, Thoughts on Her Character, Theories, and More! [ http://tinyurl.com/y3qdyfad ]

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12:14 <FoxesFurever> yo

12:14 <ConfusionRift> Hey there.

12:14 <FoxesFurever> why do so many people hate dubstep so much??

12:15 <ConfusionRift> I... got my reasons. :P

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12:21 <RazorSharpFang> Wub wub wub wub

12:23 <Unixkitty> It's the same as any other thing ever with people

12:24 <Unixkitty> People like to hate on things

12:24 <Unixkitty> For everyone else it's just not the kind of music they prefer

12:24 <RazorSharpFang> I use to like a thing, but then people I don't like started liking that thing. I don't like that thing anymore.

12:24 <ConfusionRift> I hate air! It's everywhere, and everyone has used it. :P

12:24 <Unixkitty> Those are your social preferences :P

12:25 <Unixkitty> Hahaha, and don't forget that literally everyone who ever breathed air eventually died

12:25 <RazorSharpFang> Everyone should be like me. :3

12:25 <Unixkitty> pls

12:25 <FoxesFurever> if everyone were like me, i would hate everyone

12:26 <Unixkitty> ^

12:27 <Unixkitty> The world would be a very boring place if everyone was the same, wouldn't it

12:27 <FoxesFurever> yeah

12:27 * ConfusionRift flops.

12:27 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, done looking at parts. Gonna set the order afterwards.

12:33 <FoxesFurever> i talked to my crush today

12:35 * ConfusionRift pets Unixkitty. :P

12:35 <ConfusionRift> Huzzah!

12:39 <Unixkitty> Eyyyyyyy

12:39 * Unixkitty flops on ConfusionRift

12:39 <Unixkitty> Parts? Are they for a computer?

12:39 * Unixkitty flails in RGB

12:39 <ConfusionRift> Yaaarp.

12:40 <Unixkitty> https://static.unixkitty.com/lr/l/ayy.png

12:41 <FoxesFurever> that looks awesome

12:41 <ConfusionRift> "Lea." [Translation: "Heeeeeeeyyyyy."

12:42 <ConfusionRift> I really hope they finish it up. At least the features that seem to be missing.

12:42 * ConfusionRift points at Unixkitty. "Hey... quick question."

12:43 <ConfusionRift> MSI, Asus, Gigabyte, or Supermicro? :P

12:44 <ConfusionRift> Also, shock is best element!!! (runs away)

12:44 <Unixkitty> Asus

12:44 <Unixkitty> Supermicro for servers, but a tad expensive

12:44 <Unixkitty> Second after Asus is Gigabyte

12:45 <Unixkitty> Still can't wait for the update to bring the post-game chapter and the arena to the game

12:45 * ConfusionRift nods.

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12:45 <ConfusionRift> The assets are there, but nope. Also, I find those areas that one needs a pass rather... hmmmm.

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12:46 <Unixkitty> Maybe they'll be added later as well

12:47 <ConfusionRift> The thing is they aren't even on the map, except for one area near the scholars' HQ. I wonder what's up with that one.

12:47 <Vulpor> Hey everyone

12:47 <ConfusionRift> Hallo.

12:48 <Vulpor> So I have given this Stadia thing a ton of thought

12:48 <Vulpor> It will not work right now

12:49 <Vulpor> To many variables and barriers

12:49 <Vulpor> too^

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12:51 <ConfusionRift> Stadia?

13:05 <Unixkitty> What Stadia thing

13:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Announcing NusaPonyCon - The Archipelago’s Celebration of Friendship [ http://tinyurl.com/y42thga3 ]

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13:24 * ConfusionRift said he would stop... he didn't. "Okay, enough searching. Really, it's... late. Guh. Good thing I'm off."

13:33 * ConfusionRift flops near Unixkitty, and pets one last time before crashing asleep.

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13:54 * DashedRainbows sniffs everyhorse to start the day

13:56 <RazorSharpFang> 私は今日仕事を始めた.

13:58 <Vulpor> Unikitty https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeFnQrgtZ9k

13:58 <Vulpor> @Unikitti

13:58 <Vulpor> Google is making a gaming thing

14:10 <Schism> Boy howdy does it ever have input lag.

14:11 <Schism> It's been tried before!  Admittedly not by Google, but it's been tried.  Never... really worked out well.  Been described as 'playing underwater'.

14:11 <RazorSharpFang> They're probably hoping for pings worldwide to decrease by a factor of 200.

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14:45 <Cepheid> Pretty much.  As well as packet loss from spotty wifi.

14:52 <RazorSharpFang> Try it on wifi a at max-range with 10 different clients downloading torrents and the internet connection is dialup.

14:54 <Cepheid> Pretty much.  You will have people trying that.

14:54 <Cepheid> Add in some metal walls for fun.

14:54 <RazorSharpFang> I had my first day at work today, went pretty good. :3

14:55 <Cepheid> Heh.

14:55 <RazorSharpFang> `私は今日仕事を始めた. ` in Japanese. I got the tense wrong in my first attempt.

14:55 <Cepheid> But yeah.  The idea is sound within local networks.  Especially wired ones.  Not so much wifi or the Internet.

14:56 <RazorSharpFang> I get 70ms ping to the other side of my country. : /

14:57 <Cepheid> Hence why I said local networks.  But i don't think Google is gonna go install their own HAL9000 in everyone's home.

14:58 <RazorSharpFang> Maybe they should.

14:59 <Cepheid> Honestly, Google would fare better creating their own custom, competitive, fuzzed GPUs and selling them for.lower pricing than AMD and nVidia.

14:59 <Cepheid> You know.  Like Intel is doing.

15:00 <RazorSharpFang> Yet another thing for google to do?

15:00 <Cepheid> Heh.

15:00 <RazorSharpFang> Either that or Amazon.

15:00 <Cepheid> By the by, speaking of video hardware.

15:02 <Cepheid> The other day i spent hours researching a problem I was having with my video card.  I was getting a solid, fluid 60+ FPS, but stuttering aplenty.  Couldn't figure out why no matter what I did.

15:02 <Cepheid> Take a guess what the cause was.

15:02 <RazorSharpFang> Faulty driver.

15:02 <Cepheid> The display.

15:02 <RazorSharpFang> As in the monitor?

15:03 <Cepheid> Yeah.  Monitor, TV.  Whatever you use.

15:03 <RazorSharpFang> Now that's really weird.

15:03 <Cepheid> Apparently some devices, advertising 60hz, actually run slightly below that at 59.94Hz.

15:05 <Cepheid> That slight, imperceptible difference causes synchronization issues with the game, causing it to do double updates, or display a previously displayed buffer.

15:05 <Cepheid> Thus giving the impression of stuttering or worse.

15:05 <RazorSharpFang> Dang.

15:05 <Cepheid> There are two solutions in my case.

15:06 <Cepheid> Tell the TV the device it is connectee to is a game console, and enable the TV's game mode.

15:07 <Cepheid> Or keep it set up with using a PC, and set the refresh rate to 59hz.

15:07 <RazorSharpFang> Speaking of, do you set VSync on for games you play?

15:08 <Cepheid> Alternative, I have not tried this yet, but I could create a custom resolution and adjust the timings so that it is either exactly 60hz or just above it.

15:08 <Cepheid> I do, yes.  Though which games I set it for depends on how vsync is utilized by the game.

15:09 <Cepheid> For some reason there is a difference between vsync ingame and forced vsync.

15:09 <Eternia> Good morning

15:10 * DashedRainbows waves

15:10 <RazorSharpFang> I don't understand it myself.

15:10 <RazorSharpFang> Are you making vsync available in your game, Cepheid ?

15:11 <Cepheid> Pretty much yeah.  Though I don't entirely know how it is enabled code-wise.

15:17 <Cepheid> Only issue with custom timings is that I am not sure how to calculate them. o3o

15:18 <RazorSharpFang> I'm thinking that SDL's timing isn't accurate enough for my purposes. I was hoping for microsecond timing.

15:19 <RazorSharpFang> I haven't found any cross-platform ways of getting microsecond timing.

15:20 <Cepheid> There is a way to get microsecond timing under Windows.  Same with Linux.

15:21 <Cepheid> There is no cross-platform method, but there is no reason you can't just code them both, and put them behind ifdefs.

15:21 <RazorSharpFang> I might have to hide the implementations behind a class or something.

15:23 <Cepheid> The important bit is that you return the same time resolution.  And account for LP64 vs LLP64.

15:23 <RazorSharpFang> I don't know what those mean. :3

15:24 <Cepheid> Data models.  Windows uses LLP64.  That is, long long and pointer types are 64-bit.

15:24 <Cepheid> Linux uses LP64.  That is, long, long long, and pointer types are 64-bit.

15:25 <Cepheid> Thus, you should aspire to return long long or int64_t on 64-bit machines.  Or, for compatibility with 32-bits, two 32-bit integers.  One for seconds, the other for nanoseconds.

15:26 <RazorSharpFang> That's basically an informal arbitrary precision number at that point. Just adding more and more values for bigger numbers.

15:27 <Cepheid> Indeed.

15:27 <RazorSharpFang> Anyhow, it's 11:30 PM, I got more work tomorrow so I'll sleep. Cyas.

15:27 <Cepheid> Technically compilers can handle 64-bit integers on 32-bit machines now, but there is a performance hit.

15:27 <Cepheid> Laters.

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15:41 <LibrarianofHope> suuuup

15:41 <Cepheid> Not much.

15:41 <LibrarianofHope> i finally healed my back, heck of a day yesterday

15:41 <Cepheid> I rescind my cancelation of my project.  I'm gonna finish it, regardless of weather, be it volcanic eruption, earthquake, storm, tornado, hurricane, or acts of Schism.

15:42 <LibrarianofHope> thtas the spirit

15:42 * DashedRainbows lick da book

15:42 <LibrarianofHope> i myself cannot stop mine, i tried , its like not breathing

15:43 <LibrarianofHope> acts of schism are not covered by insurance

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16:26 <LibrarianofHope> the bank gave my money back instantly

16:26 <LibrarianofHope> heck

16:26 <LibrarianofHope> im impressed

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16:41 <Cepheid> Strange.  A gathering of executives and such in the cafeteria.  Must be an event going on somewhere.

16:49 <LibrarianofHope> found a new world to explore owo

16:50 <LibrarianofHope> day start has been good

16:54 <Cepheid> I forgot to take my meds.

17:03 <LibrarianofHope> got them at hand?

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17:05 <FoxesFurever> hi

17:06 * DashedRainbows lick FoxesFurever

17:06 <FoxesFurever> sorry, but im not in the mood for that today

17:06 <DashedRainbows> np, anyway 'sup

17:07 <FoxesFurever> people were being jerks to me for liking certain singers just because they're black

17:07 <FoxesFurever> i'm simply appreciating African-American music is all

17:08 <DashedRainbows> ah, idiots

17:08 <LibrarianofHope> you have an awfull set of peers

17:08 <LibrarianofHope> lets try another subject, you could use the distraction

17:08 <FoxesFurever> i personally love rap music

17:09 <LibrarianofHope> i dont mind it, but it never really helped me write

17:11 <LibrarianofHope> i like vocaloid covers a lot

17:12 <LibrarianofHope> helped me inmensely

17:12 <FoxesFurever> Nicki Minaj is my favorite rapper

17:13 <LibrarianofHope> she is a rapper?

17:13 <FoxesFurever> yeah

17:13 <LibrarianofHope> never actually listened to her songs

17:14 <LibrarianofHope> anyone else besides her?

17:15 <FoxesFurever> Lil Wayne, Drake, Chris Brown, Kanye West, Tyga, Eminem, Snoop Dogg, Tupac

17:15 <FoxesFurever> that's all i'm gonna name for now

17:16 <LibrarianofHope> seems good to me

17:16 <FoxesFurever> seems like every fandom im in has a bunch of jerks in it

17:18 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: $13 Shirt Sale and 35% Off Everything Else at Teepublic - Plus More Designs [ http://tinyurl.com/y5m23kef ]

17:20 <LibrarianofHope> yep, unavodable issue

17:21 <LibrarianofHope> try not to give them attention, they deserve pity and ignorance

17:21 <LibrarianofHope> do you have a hobby?

17:21 <FoxesFurever> i collect mlp toys

17:22 <FoxesFurever> so far i only have one though

17:22 <LibrarianofHope> its a start

17:22 <LibrarianofHope> i collect books

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17:22 <FoxesFurever> brb

17:22 <LibrarianofHope> ok

17:27 <FoxesFurever> okay, i am back now

17:28 <LibrarianofHope> so i was saying

17:28 <LibrarianofHope> i collect books

17:28 <LibrarianofHope> and write a looot

17:29 <FoxesFurever> i would like to collect a whole lot of mlp plushies, but i don't really have the money to do that

17:29 <LibrarianofHope> take it slow, no rush

17:29 <LibrarianofHope> half of the fun is hunting bargains

17:30 <FoxesFurever> one time, i found a Twilight plushie that was supposed to be $20, but there was a sale or something, so i ended up having to only pay $10 for it

17:31 <FoxesFurever> i was prepared to pay the $20

17:32 <FoxesFurever> i also want to write some brony music

17:33 <LibrarianofHope> you might wanna wait for the new series

17:33 <FoxesFurever> why would i want to wait that long?

17:33 <LibrarianofHope> to make a better impression

17:33 <LibrarianofHope> more people to listen to the songs

17:34 <FoxesFurever> then again, brony music has started to become very unappreciated lately, plus the last season is starting in a few weeks

17:35 <LibrarianofHope> yep

17:35 <FoxesFurever> more like two and a half weeks

17:35 <LibrarianofHope> close to ma birthday

17:35 <FoxesFurever> when is your birthday?

17:35 <LibrarianofHope> april first

17:36 <LibrarianofHope> im a joke owo

17:36 <FoxesFurever> unfortunately, you share a birthday with Logan Paul

17:36 <LibrarianofHope> i do?

17:36 <FoxesFurever> yeah

17:36 <LibrarianofHope> im older, so meh

17:37 <FoxesFurever> but luckily, you share a birthday with country singer Kip Moore

17:37 <LibrarianofHope> not familiar

17:39 <FoxesFurever> i share a birthday with Rihanna

17:40 <LibrarianofHope> im wondering if i get lucky and win a raffle i entered

17:42 <FoxesFurever> i'm wanting to write parodies of Green Day songs

17:42 <LibrarianofHope> thats a good market

17:42 <LibrarianofHope> worked for weird al

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17:43 <FoxesFurever> all of them being mlp themed

17:43 <LibrarianofHope> i still suggest that you wait for the new season

17:44 <LibrarianofHope> but besides that its a great idea

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18:05 <LibrarianofHope> ali

18:06 * LibrarianofHope glomps da ali

18:06 * Ali squeaks and splats

18:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: 50 Awesome Fanfics to Read for Starlight Glimmer Day!  [ http://tinyurl.com/y2kw7389 ]

18:15 <SilverLining> Evening Ali

18:19 * Ali yawns and flops over SilverLining

18:19 * SilverLining acks

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18:22 <FoxesFurever> hello

18:22 <SilverLining> Hellew

18:25 <Ali> So SilverLining, thoughts on a PW in every pack in the next set?

18:25 <FoxesFurever> i think fursuits are so cute

18:26 <SilverLining> Set's gonna have to be designed weird to prevent that many planeswalkers from gumming up combat and interraction

18:26 <SilverLining> Depends on the fursuit. There are a good percentage of abominations

18:26 <Ali> Yeah but if they don't make them all balanced in some way, a lot of them will never be usable

18:27 <FoxesFurever> true, though, i have seen images of fursuits that are just plain creepy or cringy

18:28 <SilverLining> I love planeswalkers though so gimme gimme

18:29 <SilverLining> Evry walker-relevant card has gone up in price

18:30 * Ali headtilts at SilverLining

18:31 <SilverLining> Good thing I already had them all

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18:33 * Ali boops SilverLining, they're making no sense

18:35 <SilverLining> It's true, Bedevil, the Oaths, Call the Gatewatch, all that stuff has been in demand lately

18:35 <Ali> Bedevil?  Wouldn't Vraska's Contempt be the better card?

18:36 <SilverLining> That too. They're all going up. But Bedevil has a longer Standard lifespan

18:36 <Ali> Well yeah, cause it won't rotate out

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18:54 <LibrarianofHope> watcha talking about ali

18:54 <Ali> Magic The Gathering's next set

18:55 <LibrarianofHope> realated question

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18:57 <LibrarianofHope> ever heard of a black lotus card?

19:00 <Ali> Eeyup, power nine card, stupid expensive

19:00 <SilverLining> I do not own one.

19:03 <LibrarianofHope> why is it stupid expensive?

19:03 <LibrarianofHope> saw it on the storage wars show thingie, thet did not really say

19:05 <Ali> Its only printed 3 times back when magic started

19:05 <Ali> I think

19:05 <SilverLining> It's vastly overpowered, extremely old and rare, and iconic of the game

19:05 <Ali> Black Lotus was a 0 cost that gave 3 mana of one color

19:05 <Ali> So you could ramp out a Shivan Dragon by turn 1 or 2

19:06 * Ali yawns and rolls around

19:06 * DashedRainbows boops Ali

19:06 * Ali squeaks and falls over onto DashedRainbows

19:07 * DashedRainbows licks the squeaky horsey

19:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Silver Quill: Let's Review: MLP #76 [ http://tinyurl.com/y68vh7a2 ]

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19:30 <Ali> SilverLining, the hell, Mox Amber has doubled in price

19:32 <LibrarianofHope> i rembered that my thumb is very weak, i thought my tablet was laggy

19:32 <SilverLining> Oh yeah, forgot to mention that oe

19:32 <LibrarianofHope> i just dont press hard enoguh

19:34 <DashedRainbows> it probably is laggy but that doesn't help

19:37 <LibrarianofHope> i ran all sorts of tricks to spped it

20:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by The Skullivan: Overanalyze This:  Starlight Glimmer and the Art of Redemption [ http://tinyurl.com/y4ama9wq ]

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20:40 <PinkieShy> for once.. in about a week.. I feel awake and not tired..

20:43 * Filly_Nightmares chews on PinkieShy

20:43 <PinkieShy> I finally shaved my legs again.. :) yay

20:45 <PinkieShy> I'm going out of town soon :D

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20:45 <PinkieShy> Come April 11th.. I'll be outta here for 3-4 days.

20:49 <Starlight_Glimmer> So much Glim Glam <3

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21:16 <LibrarianofHope> glim glam intesifies

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21:29 <PinkieShy> Presto called me about the deep fryer i got.. >_>

21:29 <PinkieShy> I ordered a manual from them and they told me they don't have any manuals it seems.. they called me ot notify me about it

21:30 <PinkieShy> they recommend i discontinue use of the old model being the 'stiff' plug

21:30 <PinkieShy> they told me its because they use magnetic plugs now..

21:30 <PinkieShy> I'll continue to use until i get the newer model.. I mean probably a safety thing.

21:31 <PinkieShy> They told me if the plug gets caught on something and gets dragged.. chances are high that the oil will spill

21:33 <LibrarianofHope> there are magnetic plugs now?

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21:34 <PinkieShy> apparently so.. at least the part that goes into the unit..

21:34 <PinkieShy> I'm guessing its similar to the macbook chargers.. Maybe..

21:35 <LibrarianofHope> that doesnt sound taht helpfull

21:35 <LibrarianofHope> the force that would move a normal plug should probably move a magentic one

21:35 <LibrarianofHope> just be carefull around boiling oil

21:37 <PinkieShy> The one i got now is probably one of the orginals of the model.

21:37 <PinkieShy> a early 90s model.. then again who knows how long the grandpappy has been in production

21:41 <PinkieShy> So not that old.. their website says its been in production since 1978

22:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff - BEST Art oF Starlight Glimmer - 2019 Edition (Part 2)  [ http://tinyurl.com/y2y7zm4r ]

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23:00 <LibrarianofHope> stop

23:00 * LibrarianofHope time

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23:18 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #2926 [ http://tinyurl.com/y4ceunux ]

23:20 * Schism flops into the channel.

23:25 <Schism> It's bacon time.

23:25 * DashedRainbows sniffs Schism

23:26 * Schism smells of bacon and tomato sandwiches.

23:26 *** Quits: SilverLining (Fall@Pony-db2.9lm.228.37.IP) (Quit: )

23:27 <DashedRainbows> mmm

23:27 * LibrarianofHope sends the pig of vengeance on schism

23:28 <LibrarianofHope> like ghost rider, but porcine

23:28 * Schism defeats it with Light Arrows.

23:28 * LibrarianofHope does again with necromantic magic

23:28 * Schism still uses light arrows.

23:29 * LibrarianofHope just throws the pig hard at schism

23:29 <LibrarianofHope> when in doubt throw the pig

23:36 <LibrarianofHope> that felt like a monty python skit

23:39 * DashedRainbows finishes reading LibrarianofHope. What a plot twist

23:40 <LibrarianofHope> wut it says?

23:40 <DashedRainbows> Something about fruit

23:40 <LibrarianofHope> i want a mandarin

23:41 <Schism> "Joe?  You know that stuff you sent me to test for thermal stability?  Well, first, it hasn't got any.  Second, you owe me a new bomb, a new Wianco pickup, a new stirrer, and maybe a few more things I'll think of later."

23:41 * Schism juggles some mandarin oranges. o3o

23:41 * DashedRainbows also licks Schism

23:42 <ADragonDreaming> He's got oranges! Hit the deck! Sniper, take the shot!

23:42 <LibrarianofHope> joe quit, something about payback

23:42 * LibrarianofHope takes the shot

23:42 <LibrarianofHope> im a lousy shot, i missed

23:42 <Schism> Adra: Defending yourself against fresh fruit?

23:43 <LibrarianofHope> they might plot something

23:43 <Schism> "And now that you have disarmed the attacker... you eat the banana!"

23:43 <Schism> "What if he's got a bunch of grapes?"

23:43 <LibrarianofHope> you make wine

23:44 * Schism also notes to Adra, "It's people like you what causes unrest."

23:44 * LibrarianofHope throws another pig at schism

23:45 <ADragonDreaming> The unrest of freedom is preferable to the peace of tyranny.

23:45 <Schism> I forget, I've told you about this book, 'Ignition!', right Adra?

23:45 <ADragonDreaming> Nope.

23:45 <Schism> Let's put it this way.  You know how chemists are all mad?

23:45 <LibrarianofHope> and scary

23:45 <Schism> Though some madder than others, of course.

23:46 <ADragonDreaming> In fictionland, yes

23:46 <LibrarianofHope> nuuu, they invented unstoppable fire

23:46 <LibrarianofHope> for real

23:46 <Schism> Oh, well.  This is a book about reality, and has a forward by Isaac Asimov, noting that propellant chemists are stark raving insane.

23:46 <LibrarianofHope> its like orks, they go fast no matter the cost

23:46 <ADragonDreaming> ah, is this where the conversation about CFL3 started up from?

23:47 <Schism> It touches on CFL3, though that conversation started somewhere else and went all over the place.

23:47 <LibrarianofHope> the one we had about scary fire?

23:47 <Schism> Yeah.

23:47 <ADragonDreaming> of course it did, that's a substance that will set fire on fire.

23:47 <LibrarianofHope> so much fire?

23:47 <LibrarianofHope> fire for days

23:48 <Schism> This goes into N2O4, perchloryl fluoride, propargyl nitrate, and more.

23:49 <DashedRainbows> Yo I heard you like fire so I put fire in your fire

23:49 <Schism> All sorts of discussion of fuming nitric acids and the like.

23:50 <Schism> ... 'He suggested that a mixture of liquid oxygen and liquid methane would be an extra high-energy monopropellant.'  Well, yes, I suppose it would be.

23:51 <LibrarianofHope> liquid oxygen?

23:51 <LibrarianofHope> thats a thing?

23:51 <Schism> Yeah, it's what they call a 'cryogenic'.

23:52 <LibrarianofHope> thats liquid oxygen?

23:52 <LibrarianofHope> neag

23:53 <LibrarianofHope> neat

23:53 <Schism> Because its boiling point is roughly -183C, and because it's oxygen, it's notoriously touchy, not that that stops people from trying to use it for their barbecues.

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