Log archive of EquestriaDaily for Sunday, 2019-05-26

00:03 <Cepheid> ... Oh, hey, I made it to 8 PM without falling asleep.

00:03 <Cepheid> I've been awake since 2 AM. o3o

00:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Vinyl And Octavia Day - 2 Days Remain for Submissions!  [ http://tinyurl.com/y5ccv7br ]

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00:24 <Cepheid> There.  Clean bed, clean sheets, clean pillow cases and antiallergen covers.  Clean walls.  Clean bookshelf.  Clean floor.  Clean cat perch.  Air purifier.  Let's see if there is any improvement.

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00:44 <Schism> Finwe: Three concealed triplets is evidently worth 1, maybe 2 han?

00:46 <Schism> On the other hand, smashing my opponent into the ground with a half-flush with two dora is a delight.

00:47 <Schism> But then on the second hanchan I got eaten.  So...

01:05 * Cepheid dances a strange jig and steals Schism's MP.

01:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: TrotCon 2019 Welcomes Yona! AKA Katrina Salisbury [ http://tinyurl.com/y59utdc7 ]

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01:26 <PinkieShy> Just sitting in a corner of a world in VRchat listening to someone talk about something.. I'm highly against.. But Yea.. I won't share my thoughts to them..

01:26 <PinkieShy> Keep peace ya know.

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01:28 *** Ali changes topic to 'Welcome to #EquestriaDaily! This channel is rated All Ages | Guide and rules: http://derpy.me/EqDRules [MLP S9E9 is allowed but all Italian released episodes are not open for discussion!]'

01:37 * PinkieShy licks Ali

01:37 * Ali squeaks

01:46 <PinkieShy> So..

01:46 <PinkieShy> I plugged up my Wii last night..

01:46 <PinkieShy> Played twilight princess..

01:46 <PinkieShy> Time got away so fast.. O.o

01:46 <PinkieShy> I started at 2am.. Before i knew it.. it was 3:30am

01:46 <ADragonDreaming> here

01:47 <PinkieShy> It only felt like 10 minutes passed.

01:47 <ADragonDreaming> have a cool thing to watch

01:47 <ADragonDreaming> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=19&v=J9Q3i5w6-Ug

01:47 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

01:48 <ADragonDreaming> well, since that's being slow

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01:49 <ADragonDreaming> It's a song by Tupperware Remix Party with Dan Avidan on vocals and dope music video.

01:49 <PinkieShy> Twilight told me its about Tupperware Remix Party :P

01:49 * PinkieShy hides

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01:51 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about TWRP - Starlight Brigade (feat. Dan Avidan) [Official video]

01:51 <ADragonDreaming> that's a nice 4 minute delay there.

01:51 <ADragonDreaming> ...that's the length of the video.

01:52 <ADragonDreaming> Derpy was watching!

01:52 <PinkieShy> :O

01:53 * PinkieShy headpats ADragonDreaming and fills the dreams with bacon

01:54 * DashedRainbows squees PinkieShy

02:02 <PinkieShy> So.. I heard Wreck it ralph 2 is coming to netflix next month.

02:02 <PinkieShy> Again that seems to always happen to me XD

02:02 <PinkieShy> A month after i rent the movie from google play.. It ends up on Netflix.. What's next.. the anime movie your name comes to netflix..

02:04 <DashedRainbows> that's cool

02:04 <PinkieShy> I mean its not coming to netflix as far as i know.. But it would be odd.. lol

02:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1811 [ http://tinyurl.com/y299fcus ]

02:05 <PinkieShy> I mean last year.. I rented coco and it came to netflix..

02:05 <DashedRainbows> I meant WIR2 on netflix

02:09 <PinkieShy> Yea..

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02:12 * DashedRainbows dances the pony

02:22 <PinkieShy> pff..

02:23 <PinkieShy> Just saw an online store claim that the Nintendo Switch drive is blu-ray..

02:23 <PinkieShy> shouldn't it be.. Cartridge..

02:38 <Stormspark> theoretically you could hook a USB blu-ray drive up to it.  Why you would want to, I have no idea.  You'd have to hack it before you could make use of something like that

02:38 <Stormspark> also the cartridges technically are not cartridges.  They are just a storage medium like an SD card.  Totally different concept from a ROM cartridge

03:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Man versus Ponies (MLP in real life) [ http://tinyurl.com/y5p9qpwf ]

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04:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Emotional Show Song Remix: Daniel Ingram - Smile Song (Nyancat380 Bootleg) [Hip Hop/Chiptune] [ http://tinyurl.com/yypekqkv ]

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05:23 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ConfusionRift

05:23 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.

05:24 * Schism passes ConfusionRift a blue virus voiced by Tony Jay.

05:26 * ConfusionRift grabs it. "Eeerm... huh?"

05:26 <Schism> Heh.  An old show from the '90s.

05:27 <Schism> Megabyte and Hexadecimal remain some of my favourite villains of all time.

05:27 <ConfusionRift> Ooooh, ReBoot.

05:28 <Schism> Aye!

05:30 <ConfusionRift> He did quite a lot.

05:32 * DashedRainbows carefully sniffs ConfusionRift and then offers her toy

05:32 * ConfusionRift pets DashedRainbows, and moves the toy around. :P

05:33 * DashedRainbows bites at the toy

05:35 <ConfusionRift> Yay! :P

05:38 * Schism passes ConfusionRift a bucket o' nothing! Surprise your friends! Amaze your family! ANNOY TOTAL STRANGERS!

05:40 <ConfusionRift> https://www.amazon.com/Nothing-You-Said-Wanted-Gears/dp/B0186DL71S/ref=sr_1_17_sspa?keywords=nothing+toy&qid=1558849172&s=gateway&sr=8-17-spons&psc=1

05:40 <ConfusionRift> :P

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05:41 <ConfusionRift> "But there's nothing in-" (turns, and glares at Rift) | You're welcome. :P

05:41 * Ali noms on Schism

05:44 * DashedRainbows takes back her toy and gives it to Ali

05:48 * Ali gives it back to DashedRainbows and snuggles her instead.

05:48 * DashedRainbows barks happily

05:49 * Ali brushies the DashedRainbows and ConfusionRift

05:50 * DashedRainbows chews on her toy

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05:51 * ConfusionRift huggles both Ali and DashedRainbows. :P

05:54 * Schism watches more '90s cartoons. And deadpans to ConfusionRift, "Screeeeeam."

05:54 * DashedRainbows wags her tail

05:56 <ConfusionRift> Man, takes me back.

05:58 * DashedRainbows licks Ali until she's dripping

06:02 * Ali toweldries herself and boops DashedRainbows

06:03 * DashedRainbows looks at Ali with big eyes and boops her horn

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06:04 * Ali falls over

06:04 <DashedRainbows> D:

06:04 * Schism provides the Ali with warm, lavender-scented towels. And boops for the cute unicorn.

06:05 * Ali ish not cute though

06:05 <Ali> Schism, how many lands are there usually in a standard deck?

06:05 <DashedRainbows> Ponies are cute in general

06:06 <Schism> I... hm.  Standard deck is 60 cards, I want to say between 18 and 22 in that case.  30-36%.  Depending on how you dredge your library, that can go down a bit too.

06:07 <Schism> For a 40-card deck, look at 15-17 lands in there.

06:08 <Schism> Or 16-18.  Heh.

06:08 <Schism> Wait, no.  ... *desk*  It's late, I math can't.

06:08 <Schism> 12-14 lands.

06:09 <Ali> I've heard for draft aka 40, is 17

06:09 <Ali> So no wonder I feel like I'm mana flooding a bit

06:10 <Ali> I think I'm running 24 lands in Grixis

06:10 <Schism> 40%?  Huh.  Yeah, that seems like-- 24 out of 40?

06:11 <Schism> ... 24 lands in a deck is... do you even have room for anything else in there?

06:12 <Schism> I guess if you're running RBU you can use your graveyard to good effect.

06:12 <Ali> 24 lands in a 60 card deck Schism

06:13 <Schism> Well, I guess 40% isn't too bad then.  Still a bit highish to my taste, but it depends on what the deck's centered around.

06:13 <Ali> Casting cost caps out at 5 for Bolas, but he is very specific in colors

06:16 <Schism> The UBBBR one?

06:17 <Schism> A deck centered around that, I'd agree, 40% seems sensible, packed with as many dual-lands as you can get away with.

06:19 <ConfusionRift> I forgot how much I liked the YogLabs stuff.

06:19 <Ali> Schism, I sent you the link to the thing in PM

06:21 <Ali> I'm sure the color balance is way off

06:22 <Schism> Augur still strikes me as a really weird choice, though I guess because it says 'may', you don't have to use its effect.

06:22 <ConfusionRift> Huh, I didn't the Biker Mice from Mars had Snickers ads everywhere on the PAL version.

06:23 <ConfusionRift> *didn't know

06:24 * DashedRainbows glomps ConfusionRift and licks him repeatedly

06:24 <Ali> Well Augur is used to dig for spells to trigger off of flux

06:24 <Ali> Or hope to find plans

06:25 <Ali> ALso you got to have SOME body to defend you.  You can't just have Bolas be the only creature in the deck and expect to survive.

06:25 * ConfusionRift snugs DashedRainbows. :P

06:25 <Schism> True enough, especially if you're burning 2 life to get those lands untapped.

06:26 * DashedRainbows pants and barks

06:27 <Schism> I'd probably suggest switching out a Steam Vents for another Watery Grave.

06:27 <Ali> Ok LITTLE problem with that

06:28 <Ali> I don't own any steam vents or Watery Graves and they're the most expensive lands out there right now

06:28 * Schism looks at the price of each, and eyebrows. "Okay, yeah."

06:28 <Ali> I do have all the check lands and the blood crypts

06:29 <Schism> I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume you also don't have four Nicol Bolas, Dragon-Gods.

06:31 <Ali> 2/4 right now

06:31 <Schism> Really?  Nice.  And I remember that you pulled three of the Jaces the other day...

06:31 <Ali> I DO have the 4 Bolas creature flip

06:32 * Ali bought 3 Jace's, not pulled, that would be stupid luck

06:32 <Schism> Oh, right, sorry.

06:32 <Ali> Though I am sitting on two Foil Teferi from Dominaria

06:34 * Schism looks at that one. "Oh, that's a rather precise card for screwing with someone."

06:34 <Schism> Which Teferi, though?

06:35 <Schism> Not that it matters, because you're hardly likely to splash white into that deck.

06:36 * Ali licks Schism

06:38 <Schism> On the one hand, I know full well why this cardstock is worth so much.  On the other, I weep for humanity.

06:38 <Schism> $83 USD for a foil Teferi.  Gods alive.

06:39 <Ali> Its still no Jace, The Mind Sculptor

06:39 <Ali> Or heven forbid one of the original power nine

06:40 <Schism> Gods, a mint power nine these days...

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06:41 * Ali flops over SilverLining, maybe they can help?

06:42 <SilverLining> Sure, it never hurts to help!

06:42 <SilverLining> Name the 90's cartoon character whose catchphrase that was

06:46 <Ali> That was

06:48 <SilverLining> He was purple and not a dinosaur!

06:52 * DashedRainbows gives her toy to ConfusionRift and trots off

06:52 <SilverLining> Eek! the Cat. One of the great forgotten characters

06:52 <ConfusionRift> Aaaw, catcha laters.

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07:34 * Schism provides a small toy gun to Conf-R-IFT-1. It may or may not shoot straight, explode, turn Rift into a cat, play a small lullaby, turn into an orange, or start reciting the digits of pi.

07:35 <ConfusionRift> Hmm.

07:35 <Schism> R&D are entirely trustworthy, of course.  Friend Computer promises that they are.

07:36 * ConfusionRift shoots... not really.

07:37 <Schism> The best thing to do with something R&D provides is to give it to another player.  "Here, you look trustworthy.  Have this bomb."

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07:38 <ConfusionRift> "One 18.25 ounce package chocolate cake mix. One can prepared coconut pecan frosting. 3/4 cup vegetable oil. Four large eggs. One cup semi-sweet chocolate-" | Eeeerm....

07:39 * ConfusionRift puts the toy gun away.

07:40 <ConfusionRift> Gonna add it to my arsenal. :P

07:40 <Schism> Never know when you might need a cake recipe.

07:42 <ConfusionRift> That, or a lullaby, an explosion, turn me/someone into something else, or just confuse someone.

07:45 <ConfusionRift> "This statement is false!" | Why would you lie to me?! | "No no, it's a paradox." | I see no dots. | "No! It contradicts itself!" | What? | "The statement!" | Which? | "The one I just said!" | The statement is a statement? No waaaaay. | "No! Just... forget it! To the next test!" | Hehehe.

07:49 <ConfusionRift> "Someone, out there, 50 years ago, was capable of making a large toaster with paradox prevention processes. Are you kidding me?!" | (sips on his coffee) "Interesting, heh?" | "I... yes, very interesting... and infuriating."

07:52 <Schism> "Well, he's young.  Later on, they get around it." "How?" "They learn to ignore it." --Ow! My Sanity

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08:20 <Finwe> o3o

08:20 <Finwe> Good forenoon, my small equines of various pastel colours.

08:20 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift, Mlles Ali and DashedRainbows, Mr Schism.

08:21 <Schism> Finwe: A sanankou!  A FREAKING SANANKOU!  And then a triple riichi, and then two flushes!  It was madness!  MADNESS!

08:21 <Finwe> o7

08:21 <Finwe> Schism: Sounds like a strong streak indeed.

08:22 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)

08:23 <Schism> I felt like I was the protagonist of a Kobayashi Ritz manga!

08:24 <Schism> ... albeit with somewhat more undergarments.

08:24 <Finwe> :3

08:24 <Schism> Wound up with 70,000 points on a 25k table.

08:26 <Schism> (Those expressing confusion: The game ends when a player hits 0 points.  Or after two rounds of north-west-south-east.  Getting that many points is unlikely in the extreme.)

08:27 <Schism> The triple riichi to which I refer is not the same thing as a double riichi, which is when someone declares that their hand is ready for completion on the first draw.  It means that three players each had a closed hand, ready to finish, at some point.)

08:28 <Schism> If all four players declare riichi, the hand ends in a draw, with no points awarded to anyone because everybody is tenpai (capable of a finished hand).

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08:31 <Schism> I swear, if I'd drawn another rinshan kaihou... well, the game would have ended sooner, but I'd also have flipped my desk in disbelief.

08:32 <Schism> There's luck, and then there'd be ... that.

08:35 <Schism> A mahjong set includes 108 'tiles', four of each set, which fit as Earth Ponies, Pegasi, and Unicorns, numbered 1-9.  It also includes three colours of dragons, Red, White/Black, and Green.  Also, four winds.  Four of each tile are included.  Some sets have variations, but that's your standard grouping.

08:36 <Schism> Earth ponies are represented by hoofprints, pegasi by sticks (representing feathers), and unicorns by runes.

08:37 <Schism> Anyway, drawing three or four triplets is unlikely in the extreme.

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08:47 <ConfusionRift> "Barding (also spelled bard or barb)-" | Eeerm... heh?

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08:51 * Schism randomly flings a west wind tile at RSF.

08:52 <Schism> s/flings/flicks/

08:53 <Schism> I should take the opportunity to take a red sharpie to some of my mahjong tiles.  The set has no red doras.

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09:45 * DashedRainbows trots back in and goes around licking ponies

09:45 * ConfusionRift boops DashedRainbows. :P

09:46 * DashedRainbows paws at ConfusionRift

09:47 * ConfusionRift pets DashedRainbows and gives her toy back. :P

09:48 * DashedRainbows sits and plays with it

09:55 * DashedRainbows gives h toy to ConfusionRift again and flies off

09:56 <ConfusionRift> Actually, I kinda have to sleep for work. Laters!

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10:57 <RazorSharpFang> Does anyone recognise this power adaptor, or which device it connects to? (Laptop probs) https://i.imgur.com/HCq8Cd4.png

11:01 <Cepheid> I would need a picture instead of a drawing.

11:04 <RazorSharpFang> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/172018499005317120/582159227754119168/20190526_185211.jpg - Port View

11:04 <RazorSharpFang> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/172018499005317120/582159228308029450/20190526_185200.jpg - Side View

11:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1581 [ http://tinyurl.com/y3odnzow ]

11:05 <Cepheid> Never seen that style before.

11:06 <Cepheid> Looks like a proprietary version of those round connectors.

11:07 <RazorSharpFang> Brick manufacturer is Huntkey but they don't make laptops.

11:08 <Cepheid> https://www.amazon.ca/Adapter-Connector-Converter-Thinkpad-Ideapad/dp/B00GSWZBOO

11:08 <Cepheid> Looks kinda like that adapter converter.

11:09 <Cepheid> All the results I'm finding suggest it is a Lenovo connecter.

11:11 <RazorSharpFang> Lenovo looks like a good candidate...

11:24 <Cepheid> It's my birthday tommorow.  I expect lavish gifts, or at least singing.

11:26 <Finwe> o3o

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12:01 * Cepheid stretches, yawns. Hears several cracks, feels pain.

12:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Random Pony Merch: Plushies, Figures, Cups, and More!  [ http://tinyurl.com/y46gvuhy ]

12:29 * Cepheid learns GtkSharp. o3o

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12:41 <Cepheid> Constructor chaining.  How object-oriented languages ever existed without this is a question for the ages.  *C++ existed without this up until a certain point.*

12:42 <Cepheid> Though, for the sake of vector math, I really do wish languages would allow defining custom operators.

12:43 <Cepheid> Because I'd implement · as "dot product", and × as "cross product"

12:44 <Cepheid> Alas, the rest of the typical vector math functions would not be implementable using operators, mostly because the symbology for them is often in the form of either putting symbols over letters, or using other methods, in writing.

12:44 <Cepheid> Like |A| being the magnitude of vector A.

12:56 * Cepheid XORs RazorSharpFang with Finwe.

12:57 <RazorSharpFang> The result is 0x0

12:57 <Cepheid> I thought it'd be o3o

12:57 <Cepheid> *Gets shot*

12:58 <Cepheid> Okay, so you know, I hate how vectors in a programming language, and vectors in mathematics are different things.  And I'm not talking C++ vector instances.

12:59 <Cepheid> In mathematics, a vector is essentially a directed line from one point to another.  Meanwhile, in programming, while it can be treated as such, it is often treated more as a point.

12:59 <RazorSharpFang> "Point Vector" UwU

13:00 <Cepheid> Ah, is that what they are called mathematically?

13:00 <RazorSharpFang> Yeah.

13:01 <Cepheid> In any case, it results in some oddities.

13:01 <RazorSharpFang> It's probably similar to the distinction between Timespan and DateTime.

13:01 <Cepheid> I've seen cases of Point classes with methods like cross- and dot-products, magnitudes/lengths, etc.

13:02 <Cepheid> They're probably implemented as Point Vectors because it just simplifies things.

13:02 <Cepheid> Why have two distinct classes that contain the same data, where one provides extra operations?

13:03 <RazorSharpFang> Perhaps a fair amount of programmers don't care about the mathematical distinctions between points, vectors and point-vectors.

13:03 <Cepheid> That too.

13:04 <Cepheid> From a functional standpoint, there's no real reason to implement distinct classes outside of just being pedantic, and ensuring they're used correctly in methods.

13:04 <Cepheid> Like for example, not using vector operations on points passed to a method or function.

13:05 <Cepheid> In which case, better to just implement the distinctions as interfaces for a single data type.

13:06 <Cepheid> But then you have cases like going MethodThatWorksOnPoints(new Vector(2, 2), new Vector(2, 2)) when said method accepts two IPoint references, which is an interface implemented by Vector.

13:07 <Cepheid> Anyhow, I'd best get back to coding.  This is just getting too analytical into a simple data structure.

13:12 <Cepheid> In this case, I'm just going to treat the two as distinct classes, with implicit conversions between the two, and a constructor that creates a vector from two points.

13:12 <RazorSharpFang> You could always have PointVector = PointVector(0,0) + Vector(i,j)

13:15 <Cepheid> Ah screw it, this is just a bunch of code duplication for little purpose.

13:15 * Cepheid just makes the Point class into the Vector class.

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13:24 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFEsfCM_dXw

13:24 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

13:28 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Rabi-Ribi OST - Get on with it [Extended]

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13:35 <Cepheid> Finwe:  Is Tau an official mathematical constant these days, or is it just an unofficial term used by mathematic types to express "2 * PI" more easily?

13:37 <Cepheid> ...

13:37 <Cepheid> Ohgreat, my touchpad has stopped functioning.

13:37 <Cepheid> Oh, there it goes.

13:37 <Cepheid> Must be a bug in the WMI code for this laptop.

13:52 <Cepheid> As for what I'm coding today, nothing big.  A GTK# app to help me implement and test collision detection algorithms.  I don't want to write a new shader and special functions for drawing lines, shapes, etc(Although I probably should..) for my game.

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15:12 <Schism> Cepheid: I like how that's Ashuri's theme.  Stupid timewasting witch...

15:12 <Cepheid> Heh.

16:21 * Cepheid blares Persona 3 - Burn My Dread.

16:53 <DashedRainbows> gooooooooooooooood morning

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17:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: MLP Meets Rammstein 2.0 Music: StableTwoStallion - Ember [Industrial Gothic Metal] [ http://tinyurl.com/y5b8los8 ]

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17:18 * DashedRainbows boops Ali's horn. wants to see magic

17:19 * Ali boops DashedRainbows, she's not the magician pony.

17:23 * DashedRainbows makes disappointed horse noises

17:25 * Ali gives DashedRainbows her chew toy to make up for it?

17:25 <DashedRainbows> yay

17:28 * Ali then nibbles on DashedRainbows ear

17:29 * DashedRainbows keeps chewing on her chew toy

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17:57 * Ali drops Flutterbetus into the room, dat episode

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18:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: My Little Pony: FiM BGM - 'Sweet and Smoky' [ http://tinyurl.com/y6xgrrl8 ]

18:07 <Ali> Silly Seth, you're supposed to do the episode follow up first

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18:20 <Princess-Luna> x3 He is a silly pon'

18:33 <Schism> I don't want to cook today...

18:33 * Schism shakes his head, and considers. "There are other options. Like ordering pizza. That might be a good choice."

18:56 * Princess-Luna delivers Freddy Fazbears pizza to Schism! :3

19:03 * Ali stares at Princess-Luna thru the camera

19:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Platonic: Editorial: My Relatable Villain  [ http://tinyurl.com/y5brd4gt ]

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19:12 <Cepheid> 'Nuff coding.  Time to relax.

19:12 <Cepheid> Gaming today shall consist of Etrian Odyssey V, and finding that Star Devourer.

19:14 <Cepheid> All I can do at the moment is take out the third superboss, but that's gonna require some work.

19:15 <Cepheid> I'm gonna need some anti-bind stuff.  Let's see, Cepheid uses arms, mostly.  In fact, only one skill is not arms.

19:16 <Cepheid> Tirek's all arms, as a pugilist.

19:16 <Cepheid> Tim's got some Head-specific skills, but is majority arms.  Then there's Schism, and Dreamer.

19:17 <Cepheid> Schism is somehow not head-reliant for skills, despite being the group healer.  I guess he heals via potions and tonics.

19:18 <Cepheid> Dreamer, being the Black Mage of the group is all heads.

19:18 <Cepheid> Downside, I lose out on some nice benefits for the battle.  But the alternative is having to constantly heal binds, which is not a good thing to be doing all the time.

19:19 <Cepheid> Hmm.  I should probably look into grinding some money too, upgrade everyone's armor.

19:21 <Cepheid> Hmm.

19:22 <Cepheid> I've seen every boss and monster except the Star Devourer, and I know that thing's name, so that basically means conditional drop list is now spoiler-free for me.

19:25 <Tirek> Sounds about right

19:26 <Schism> Mmm, three pizzas.  A bacon chicken ranch, a sweet and spicy, and a classic.

19:26 <Cepheid> First conditional drop up, Doom Wheels.

19:26 <Cepheid> Kill while blinded.

19:27 <Cepheid> Tirek:  You've basically been a mainstay since creation.  If I have to remove you from the party, I usually suffer for it.

19:27 <Tirek> What a guy

19:27 <Schism> Stoke me a clipper: I'll be back for Christmas.

19:28 <Cepheid> Well that was easy.

19:28 <Schism> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHQIBpTex8Q

19:29 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

19:29 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Red Dwarf Stoke me a Clipper intro - Alligator surfing

19:29 <Cepheid> Looks like that drop got us a high-quality armor.

19:30 <Cepheid> Possibly the best armor for harbingers.

19:30 <Cepheid> Next up..  Dread Worms.

19:33 <Cepheid> That got me the best armor for Tirek, apparently.

19:35 <Cepheid> For normal enemies, that leaves one enemy on the 25th(?) floor, and one enemy on the 24th, whom I know how to get their conditional drop, I just don't know how they *WORK*.

19:35 <Cepheid> The conditional drop is straightforward, use an appropriate element, but the element is dependent on the enemy's behaviour.

19:36 <Cepheid> There's also the 3 FOEs of the 6th stratum, of whom none of which I am capable of killing yet.

19:36 <Cepheid> Even at an average level of 78, they are still all registering as red difficulty.

19:36 <Cepheid> Oh, right, and the superboss conditional drops.

19:37 <Cepheid> Oh, 30th, not 25th floor.

19:40 <Cepheid> ... Oh!  One of them is yellow, now.  o3o

19:47 <Cepheid> Seriously, how does that enemy work?  It says she absorbs mana, and that apparently she changes element as a result, but all attempts to hurt her with magic result in 1-2 damage tops, then she uses square-up, then summons minions and disappears.

19:50 <Cepheid> ...

19:50 <Cepheid> I wonder if she summons minions if she's the only one left.

19:57 <Cepheid> ..

19:57 <Cepheid> Oh.

19:57 <Cepheid> It's just straight up "Kill with elemental damage."

19:57 <Cepheid> But uh...

19:57 * Cepheid hits her with the strongest blast of elemental damage possible. It does 1 damage.

19:58 <Schism> That sounds like the sort of boss you'd want to use a formaldehyde on.

20:01 <Cepheid> Not a boss, regular enemy.

20:01 <Cepheid> I'm looking through skill trees to see if there's a class that reduces elemental resistances.

20:04 <Cepheid> Nothing I can see, however.

20:04 <Cepheid> There are element/physical attacks.

20:05 <Cepheid> Fire/Stab, Fire/Bash, etc.

20:05 <Cepheid> These do both elemental and physical damage, which would count as doing elemental damage for purposes of murder.

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20:05 <Cepheid> So, in theory, a simple elemental/physical attack should suffice.  The other part is restraining her so that she can't summon.

20:06 <Cepheid> That'll be dealt with via constant use of arm bind and paralysis.

20:07 <Cepheid> Big issue there is dealing the damage.

20:08 <Cepheid> No one has any such attacks. o3o

20:09 <Cepheid> Simple solution, make a Shaman.  Who wants to be a Shaman?

20:10 <Cepheid> Schism, I'm making your female persona into a Shaman, as it seems Shamans are good for healing as well, so I may swap out Schism for Divide.

20:11 <Cepheid> https://etrian.fandom.com/wiki/Shaman Which do you want to be?  Punisher or Herald?

20:12 <Cepheid> Also, they seem to be the only class with a resistance debuff for elements.

20:13 <Cepheid> Dance Oracle, removes elemental weapon buff to inflict elemental damage, and reduces elemental resistance for that turn.

20:14 <Schism> Hmmm, possibly Herald.

20:14 <Cepheid> Yeah.

20:14 <Cepheid> I was looking at Herald too.

20:15 <Cepheid> Those skills sound very nice, and would be a great boon for dealing with Lamia.

20:15 <Cepheid> Possibly the Star Devourer, too.

20:16 <Cepheid> Looks like the Herald relies on Wisdom for most of it's skills.  Dance Oracle seems to be the Int skill for a Divine Herald.

20:17 <Cepheid> Only issue will be getting her up to speed.  From level 1 to level 70 or so.

20:20 <Cepheid> Hum, what's Heavenly Gift ma-  Burnt Pauldron.

20:20 <Cepheid> I think I can farm those easily.

20:20 <Cepheid> Yeah, Burnt Pauldrons drop off of some FOEs.  I could abuse that.

20:21 <Cepheid> If I remember, they are prevalent on floor 14, so go murder a bunch, buy their respective items, then use the items to grind EXP quickly.

20:22 <Cepheid> ...

20:22 <Cepheid> Oh my gods, are you kidding me with how difficult that was?

20:22 <Cepheid> Two castings of Explosion, they die.

20:22 <Cepheid> They take 5,000 damage from it.

20:26 <Cepheid> Ye know, my constant talking of the game is likely getting annoying, so I'm gonna go create a room dedicated for my yammerings.

20:26 <Cepheid> If you want to listen in, I'll talking over in #CepheidGaming

20:26 <Princess-Luna> x3

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20:29 <Cepheid> Just easier this way. :P

20:29 <Cepheid> And less annoying, even by my own standards.

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20:35 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Fanfiction Updates - May 26th  [ http://tinyurl.com/y3ltj6cf ]

20:39 <Ali> Damn it Seth, where's the episode followup

20:39 * Ali whines and flails at Princess-Luna

20:39 <Princess-Luna> x3

20:39 * Princess-Luna nibbles upon ali

21:01 <Cepheid> Hum, that doubles EXP gained, so combined with... ... 4x EXP, not bad.

21:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: New Equestria Girls Short Released - Festival Looks [ http://tinyurl.com/y49age8c ]

21:20 <Cepheid> Gotta love powerleveling.

21:22 * Schism looks at the curious case of the exploding bulbasaurs.

21:23 <Cepheid> The what?

21:24 <Schism> Heh, Pokemon Red/Blue has a 'ZZAZZ' glitch.

21:24 <Cepheid> Heh.

21:25 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, powerleveling is happening on the 30th floor.  Enemy groups in the starting room are easy, if you know how to fight 'em.  Groups are worth 100,000 on average.

21:25 <Cepheid> Also, because I "completed" the game by making it to the final room, I was allowed to actually explore that final room, and it revealed distressing things.

21:26 <Cepheid> There's more to the map than meets the eye.  Through the "FOE vision" effect, I can see FOEs in inaccessible areas.  This map is incomplete, and I see no way to complete it.

21:32 * DashedRainbows returnns the toy to Ali and runs around

21:33 * Ali squeaks at DashedRainbows

21:34 * Cepheid goes and attacks a gigantic elephant.

21:34 * DashedRainbows boops Ali's horn again

21:36 <Cepheid> Magic got a seriously powerful buff in Etrian Odyssy V, Schism, compared to EO4.

21:36 <Cepheid> In EO4, the best I could do was about 1000-1500 damage with magic, and that was with extremely specific setups.

21:36 <Cepheid> Dreamer is pulling off 3,300, and this isn't even the maximum he can do.

21:39 <Cepheid> Dangit, I didn't get the conditional.

21:39 * Cepheid reloads.

21:44 <Cepheid> Right, Dreamer has reached insane power levels.  That FOE earlier that he was doing 5k damage to?  10k damage, now.  He broke 9999 damage.

21:49 <Cepheid> Oh this is going to be glorious.  Let's see, normal EXP from the Primoridphant is 450,000.  I'm going to double that using a skill, then double it again with an item during battle.  That's...  1,800,000 EXP.

22:00 <Cepheid> ... Yeah, that was profitable.

22:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #2990 [ http://tinyurl.com/yxt8gr9g ]

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22:08 <Cepheid> Bah, I botched the Dryad.

22:09 <Cepheid> Should have just murdered her with the one remaining character alive, would have gotten the item.

22:12 <Cepheid> Getting unlucky with my rolls.

22:16 <Cepheid> ... Ye know, I didn't get the rare drop, but I'll take that win, since it just boosted Dreamer to level 89.

22:22 <Cepheid> Theeeere we go.  Obtained.

22:23 <Cepheid> Right, and there's Schism's ultimate body armor.

22:25 <Cepheid> Next up, undead dragons. o3o

22:31 <Cepheid> Aaaand obtained.  Rewards me with best hand cannon.

22:34 <Schism> Blast it, "A Dark Room".  Stop killin' all my villagers!

22:34 * Ali noms all the villagers before Schism can catch her!

22:34 <Cepheid> I wonder if multiple Heavenly Gifts stack.

22:34 <Cepheid> Prolly not.  Be overpowered if it did.

22:35 <Cepheid> Alas, nope.

22:36 <Cepheid> At this point I could probably defeat the FOE of the sixth stratum and get their rare drops, too.

22:36 <Cepheid> "Kill within 5 turns"

22:37 <Cepheid> Yeah... all the FOEs are blue to me, now.

22:39 <Ali> What dat mean?

22:39 <Cepheid> Means they're weaker than the party by a long shot.

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22:40 <Cepheid> 'Course, that means nothing in the 6th stratum, really.

22:40 <Cepheid> ...

22:40 <Cepheid> Oh for chrissakes.

22:40 <Cepheid> I forgot to turn autosave back on.

22:41 <Cepheid> I gotta go kill the dragon again.

22:48 <Cepheid> Whelp, I'm gonna be getting a lot of EXP, as I need to kill it again, since I didn't formaldehyde it's drop because I underestimated how much damage I could do in a turn.

22:52 <Cepheid> ... I didn't save after killing the Dryad due to the "No autosave," didn't I?

22:52 <Cepheid> I did not.

22:58 <Cepheid> Problem solved. o3o

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23:02 <Cepheid> Schism:  The Undead Dragon is worth 3.14 million EXP if killed with all EXP boosting stuff active.

23:02 <Schism> Yeeesh.

23:02 <Cepheid> And I'm off to murder it again.

23:03 <Cepheid> Feel like I should go after Lamia first, though.

23:03 <Cepheid> Think I will, in fact.

23:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Internally, Rarijack Was Totally a Thing for the Equestria Girls Team  [ http://tinyurl.com/y3c3koqh ]

23:11 <Cepheid> Bah, was doing well until she pulled out a special that causes retaliation for any attack.

23:12 <Ali> then reflect the reflect!

23:13 <Cepheid> The irony is that's what happened.

23:13 <Cepheid> Tirek can counter attacks, and does so with regular frequency.  He countered most of the boss' counterattacks.

23:17 <Cepheid> Etrian Odyssey, it's difficult, but fair.  I just confused the boss.  It can't do anything other than attack, possibly attacking itself.

23:17 <Cepheid> Very rarely do status effects ever work on bosses in RPGs.

23:19 <Ali> there's a glitch in FF1

23:19 <Ali> Where you can lower the final boss's morale so low he'll run away.

23:22 <Cepheid> Heh.

23:22 <Cepheid> I remember that, yeah.

23:22 <Cepheid> Also, got the boss.  And the conditional drop.

23:22 <Cepheid> And it's a good thing I went after her first, as the 3.6 million(!!!) EXP pushed the entire team to nearly level 90 across the board.  Tim's behind by 1 level, but not by far.

23:23 <Ali> Is there a level cap?

23:23 <Cepheid> Yes.

23:23 <Cepheid> It starts at 70, but increases by ten for each superboss killed, up to a maximum of 99.

23:25 <Cepheid> Nexus apparently takes it even further.

23:25 * Ali is still just wondering about Factorio starting back up, she's not rushing, just curious.

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23:31 <Cepheid> Soon enough, I'd imagine.  I'm nearing completion of this game, technically.

23:32 * Ali nod nods

23:32 <Cepheid> Annoyingly, there is a problem(TM)

23:33 <Ali> Tm?

23:33 <Cepheid> Trademark.  In any case, the problem is straightforward.  Nothing's changed now that all the superbosses have all been killed at least once.

23:33 <Cepheid> There must be something I am missing.

23:34 * Ali doesn't know the game so she is very confused.

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23:35 *** Ali changes topic to 'Welcome to #EquestriaDaily! This channel is rated All Ages | Guide and rules: http://derpy.me/EqDRules [MLP S9E9 is allowed but all Italian released episodes are not open for discussion!][No Indy 500 Spoilers]'

23:36 * Ali will get very upset if she gets spoilered

23:36 <Cepheid> In each game, the base story ends at floor 25.  However, if you want the full story, you need to traverse up, or down, to floor 30, and often this involves killing some key bosses, to boot.

23:36 * DashedRainbows makes sad horse noises and flops on PinkieShy

23:36 <Cepheid> I've made it to floor 30, and as far as I can tell, there's SOMETHING I haven't accessed.  I can see it's presence, but I can't access it.

23:37 * Ali doesn't know as she cuddles on DashedRainbows

23:37 <PinkieShy> I got church music stuck in my head :D

23:37 * DashedRainbows hugs Ali

23:38 <PinkieShy> Through out the day.. I keep just blurting out the lyrics i am hearing and just start singing ^_^

23:39 * Cepheid makes a fool of the base final boss.

23:40 <Ali> Hi final boss *poke* Oh your dead.

23:40 <Cepheid> ...

23:40 <Cepheid> Hoh.

23:40 <Cepheid> Huh*

23:40 <Cepheid> He killed me with a final attack.

23:40 <Cepheid> Note to self:  Murdering boss during the miasma phase is a bad idea.

23:40 <Ali> Pft

23:41 <PinkieShy> I think i give in and listen to church music on YT :3

23:44 <Cepheid> Got 'im that time.

23:45 <Cepheid> Right, so however it is that I access that area..

23:45 <Cepheid> It is earlier upon the Bridge.

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23:48 * Ali noms on Schism

23:49 <ADragonDreaming> what game this?

23:49 * PinkieShy nomfs the Ali's ears.

23:49 * Ali squeaks and leans into the noms from PinkieShy

23:51 * DashedRainbows flops on the Ali instead

23:51 * Ali squeaks at DashedRainbows and brushiebrushies her

23:52 * DashedRainbows still feels ugly

23:52 * Ali adds a ribbon into DashedRainbows's mane

23:54 * PinkieShy hugs DashedRainbows and puts a bow in her mane.

23:58 <Cepheid> If in doubt about what to do, explore.

23:58 <Cepheid> ADragonDreaming:  Etrian Odyssey V.

23:59 <ADragonDreaming> well this is amusing.

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