00:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3119 [ http://tinyurl.com/yytpc7m5 ]
00:17 <Schism> There's an unfortunate life hack, which I hesitate to share, but it transpires that if you type in full sentences with properly cooked SPaGhetti, people tend to think you're more responsible than you actually are.
00:27 <ADragonDreaming> ...type in full sentences with properly cooked SPaGhetti? what?
00:36 <Schism> SPaGhetti. Spelling, Punctuation and Grammar.
00:36 <ADragonDreaming> ah
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01:28 * Cepheid automates Advanced Computer..
01:28 * Schism joins some folks in a Susano Hard run.
01:31 <ADragonDreaming> hm. That's a faster download.
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02:21 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1938 [ http://tinyurl.com/y43rwxgj ]
02:31 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by The Illustrious Q: NYCC INTERVIEW: Bobby Curnow on My Little Pony Season 10! [ http://tinyurl.com/y6882xzr ]
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03:37 * Schism plays Twilight Sparkle at Ali. However, has no other ponies on the field.
03:38 <Wicked_Wings> lolwut
03:39 * Ali uses Changlings to turn into missing ponies, then pays RWBUG so that everypony wins the game
03:40 <Ali> Or just use Rarity, pay 1, reveal Rainbow Dash, gain pro everything
03:41 * Filly_Nightmares licks Ali
03:41 * Filly_Nightmares meow
03:42 * Ali uses Rarity to gain protection for eeeee
03:46 * ADragonDreaming plays Smooze into commander slot, reduces colorless mana cost by 1 for each colorless creature played.
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04:10 <ADragonDreaming> I ran an Animar commander deck for a bit, on a program.
04:10 <ADragonDreaming> Playing Eldrazi(?) for free was fun.
04:11 <Ali> Nothing says stupid like a 15/15 annalator 6
04:12 <ADragonDreaming> I also found an played a pauper infinite hand.
04:12 <ADragonDreaming> I forget the combo. Midnight guard or something?
04:12 <ADragonDreaming> Been too long.
04:12 <Ali> I don't know all the cards
04:12 <Ali> I just play to keep myself sane
04:13 <Ali> By sane I mean crazy cause I'm buying cardboard cards for mons
04:15 <Ali> So what crazy stuff have you done to the server ADragonDreaming other than a new mod?
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04:17 <ADragonDreaming> not a huge amount.
04:17 <ADragonDreaming> Cepheid automated mass module 2's
04:18 <ADragonDreaming> we have like 400 in chest, just waiting designation.
04:18 <ADragonDreaming> I finished the oil and plastic cells.
04:18 <ADragonDreaming> Set up iron powdering.
04:19 <ADragonDreaming> also set up automated advanced furnaces (1 per minute)
04:19 <Ali> The ones that need the Graphite?
04:19 <ADragonDreaming> and was gonna set up titanium and lead powdering but there's an expansion base taht is getting the stink and keeps sending spitters at us.
04:19 <ADragonDreaming> yes.
04:19 <Ali> There's a base in the stink? That's annoying
04:20 <ADragonDreaming> yes. the moved in.
04:20 <Ali> Took them long enough
04:20 <ADragonDreaming> I'd just go take care of it in an offline world but.
04:20 <Ali> Yeah yeah, das lag
04:21 <Ali> Too bad Purple tech is so slow
04:21 <ADragonDreaming> That was one reason I automated the final tier furance.
04:22 <ADragonDreaming> make it easier to expand steel.
04:22 <Ali> Issue is ore washing last I checked
04:22 <Ali> Iron wasn't getting processed fast enough
04:22 <ADragonDreaming> powdering helps with that.
04:22 <Ali> Not really
04:23 <Ali> That's a by product of the washing stuff
04:23 <Ali> Other than it needs 2 ore less per smelt
04:23 <ADragonDreaming> 2 less refined iron, too.
04:23 <Ali> That's what I mean
04:23 <ADragonDreaming> its' a 1 to 1 ratio all the way until the furnaces.
04:23 <Ali> I know
04:23 <Ali> It just overall needs two less ore per smelt due to the powder
04:24 <Ali> since its a 1:2 instead of a 2:3
04:24 <ADragonDreaming> which means you need fewer washing plants for the same ingots/second
04:25 <ADragonDreaming> but we also have space to expand that.
04:25 <ADragonDreaming> since copper and gold are being washed elsewhere.
04:25 <Ali> Well since I moved gold
04:25 <ADragonDreaming> yes
04:25 <Ali> There is a space there for it to expand
04:25 <Ali> Copper needs to be hooked up soon
04:26 <ADragonDreaming> oh, right. Taht was also done.
04:26 <Ali> Once that patch runs out
04:26 <ADragonDreaming> because the patch ran out
04:26 <Ali> Did you attach both the crushed copper and the copper powder?
04:26 <ADragonDreaming> Cepheid did it. blue packs are still running.
04:27 <ADragonDreaming> so yes to crushed copper being linked up
04:27 <ADragonDreaming> dunno about powder
04:27 <Ali> More worried about the purple bottles
04:27 <Ali> Since the assemblers are only set up to make 7 or so a minute
04:27 <ADragonDreaming> to feed 10 labs, need 1600 steel ingots per minute.
04:28 <Ali> Yeah, Finding out the hard way that doing lab speed bonuses aren't a good thing
04:28 <ADragonDreaming> things are prepare to make that possible.
04:28 <ADragonDreaming> eh, the speed bonuses are fine. means you need fewer labs for the same result.
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04:36 * Ali gives ADragonDreaming_ the nick ADragonDerping
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05:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Silver Quill: Comic: Pinkie Pie Says Goodnight – Season 9 Retrospective [ http://tinyurl.com/y66wghf9 ]
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07:10 <Finwe> Good morning, my tiny pastel-coloured equines.
07:11 <Finwe> Mlles Ali, DashedRainbows and Filly_Nightmares; Messrs ADragonDreaming_, Cepheid, Schism and Lumindia_.
07:11 <Wicked_Wings> my god, it is 3 am.
07:11 * Finwe doffs his hat.
07:11 <Finwe> Wicked_Wings: No, my god, it is 10:11 ante meridiem.
07:11 * Ali doffs Finwe with Ponies: The Galloping
07:12 <Wicked_Wings> nae. 'tis 3:12 AM
07:12 * Finwe noms on Ali's tail.
07:12 * Ali noms on Finwe tail
07:12 <Finwe> Wicked_Wings: My dear, Mr Wicked_Wings, you seem to live in a completely wonky time zon.
07:12 <Finwe> *zone
07:12 * Finwe tail-wiggles.
07:12 <Finwe> !plot
07:12 <DerpyBot> *wigglewiggle*
07:13 <Finwe> *wigglewiggle*
07:13 * Wicked_Wings points "nae, 'tis ye who live in the erroneous locale!"
07:16 * Ali boops Wicked_Wings. "Silly east coaster
07:16 * Wicked_Wings huffs "am not silly."
07:17 <Finwe> I implore thee to cease thy spurious innuendo, Mr Wicked_Wings.
07:18 <Wicked_Wings> my what now?
07:18 <Ali> Big words confuse :P
07:18 <Ali> But for now Mods are asleep post ponies
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07:20 <Wicked_Wings> i'm not sure i understand the issue i've caused?
07:20 * Finwe posts ponies.
07:20 <Finwe> https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/p__/images/9/91/Rainbow_dash_12_by_xpesifeindx-d5giyir.png/revision/latest?cb=20140411145606&path-prefix=protagonist
07:20 <Finwe> It's something I cannot postpone.
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07:22 * Wicked_Wings blinks
07:23 * Finwe snuggles a Wicked_Wings.
07:24 * Wicked_Wings looks surprised
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08:01 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
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08:25 * Filly_Nightmares purrs at ConfusionRift and kneads Wicked_Wings floof
08:34 * ConfusionRift pet Filly_Nightmares. :P
08:35 * AppleDash confusions at WickedFilly and wings Nightmare_Rift's purrs!
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08:51 * uni flops
10:11 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Season 9 Episode 23 - The Big Mac Question - Stream / Discussion [ http://tinyurl.com/y2z3c8tt ]
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11:52 * Lumindia picks up Surry, hugs
11:52 <Lumindia> It's cold! Warmth!
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12:13 <ADragonDreaming> "Why would a cleric of the lord of murder know healing spells?" "Maintenance of high-performance practitioners. Do you understand the kill count of the average adventuring party?"
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12:26 <ConfusionRift> "What? It is called self-preservation. Like I am going to the field to just catch fire or stand there like a fool. Remember, you do not get paid if you are not alive." | Wait, you get paid?!
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13:02 * Schism wavies to the ConfusionRift.
13:03 * ConfusionRift waves back.
13:03 <Schism> It transpires that a full-time job has fallen into my lap.
13:03 <ADragonDreaming> huzzah!
13:03 <ConfusionRift> Nice@
13:03 <Schism> Office work, at that.
13:09 * Schism yawwwwnles, too. And boops ConfusionRift with an Ankh Jewel.
13:10 * Schism also boops the Surry with some mac'n'cheese.
13:10 * ConfusionRift boops Schism with a jewel pedestal. :P
13:12 <Schism> Gah. Also, let's see. You've gotten the Bronze Mirror, and you've beaten Amphisbaena (which is kind of pointless), Ellmac, Sakit, and ... hm. Did you manage to clear Bahamut?
13:13 <ConfusionRift> Amphisbaena... is that the one at the Gate of Guidance?
13:13 <Schism> Yeah, the two-headed dragon.
13:13 <Schism> Or snake, whatever.
13:14 <ConfusionRift> Ah, Damage Boost the Twin-headed Dragon.
13:14 * Surreal_Nightmares gnaws on Schism
13:14 <Schism> That's one way, certainly.
13:14 * Schism feeds the Surry plenty of eggs!
13:14 <ADragonDreaming> So, in a D&D 5e campaign, we have a half-orc sorcerer who has 3 hit points.
13:14 <ConfusionRift> And no, I haven't beaten Bahamut. I'm where I left last time, at the pit of darkness- I mean, Chamber of Extinction.
13:15 <Schism> That's a rather terrible HD roll.
13:15 <ADragonDreaming> that's not an HD roll.
13:15 <ADragonDreaming> The character has a -3 con mod.
13:15 <ADragonDreaming> 5e starts you at max value for the class hit die, which is 1d6 for the sorcerer.
13:16 * Schism huhs. "A half-orc sorcerer with a -3 CON mod seems ... what, that's 4 CON?"
13:16 <ConfusionRift> Didn't really played today due to me trying to contact someone about the missed shift.
13:16 <ADragonDreaming> or 5.
13:16 <Schism> Ah, any luck?
13:16 <ConfusionRift> No, no one answered this time.
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13:16 <Schism> One might begin to believe that HR simply doesn't -care.-
13:17 * ConfusionRift whispers. "There is no H.R."
13:17 <ADragonDreaming> In the last session, said sorcerer was knocked unconscious. The cleric elected to stabilize him and _not_ expend a healing spell, instead healing up the barbarian who was at 7 of 15 hitpoints.
13:18 * Schism facepalms.
13:18 <ADragonDreaming> I actually agreed with this.
13:18 <ADragonDreaming> it was a better expenditure of resources, since the combat was concluded.
13:18 <Schism> Nah, it makes sense.
13:18 <Schism> Though now you get to carry the sorcerer around.
13:19 <ConfusionRift> I am not joking. There is an associate trained for personnel management purposes, but there is no dedicated H.R. staff. It's all part of this garbage movement that's gonna happen next year.
13:19 <Schism> Wow. Okay, were it not for the simple fact of money, I'd wonder why you're working there at all at this point.
13:19 <Schism> Wonder what happens if that associate quits.
13:20 <ConfusionRift> $11/hour I guess.
13:20 <ADragonDreaming> are you looking for work elsewhere?
13:21 <ConfusionRift> Not exactly. I have another mess to deal with, which I unfortunately cannot disclose.
13:21 <ADragonDreaming> ah
13:21 <Schism> Life is one mess after another...
13:21 <ConfusionRift> "Life is a series of train wrecks..."
13:21 <ADragonDreaming> Life's a beach, and then you die
13:21 * Schism boops Koopz with a Coliseum Galerus.
13:22 <ConfusionRift> Oh, and I don't have a car.
13:22 <Schism> Mmm.
13:22 <ADragonDreaming> (also, we were on a ship. We just put the sorcerer in a bunk and let him heal up naturally)
13:22 <Schism> One of the greatest disservices done to humankind was the automobile.
13:23 <Schism> Adra: So, does the half-orc incur drayage fees in that case?
13:23 * Schism shakes his head. "Anyway. Gah, I'm feeling out of it."
13:24 <ADragonDreaming> those were pre-paid.
13:25 <ConfusionRift> Me too... should sleep so I can go to work and deal with the problem.
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13:34 <Schism> Adra: Baal just... doesn't get Jihan. It's not like he has to use demonic magic anyway. Also, Lolikeano... "Unless that skill's as powerful as the will of the world..." For crying out loud, it demonstrably is!
13:40 <ADragonDreaming> In Mistream's defense
13:40 <ADragonDreaming> Jihan's power is demonstrably different to everything.
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13:41 <Schism> That's true.
13:42 <Schism> But at the same time, she's been training him...
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13:42 <ADragonDreaming> sure, but gamer's mind is a sneaky passive.
13:42 <ADragonDreaming> one you don't really get if you don't play games.
13:43 <ADragonDreaming> she probably hasn't stress-tested it, since doing so would be, you know, abusive.
13:44 * Schism nodnods. "And Gamer's Body -- well, that one's also not exactly been tested to completion, now that Jee-han has so much HP."
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13:49 <Schism> Oh, Adra. If you want a weird fever dream full of profanity, you could do worse than Satellite City.
13:49 <Jackie> Vaping actually kills
13:50 <ADragonDreaming> it can, yes.
13:50 <Jackie> 18 so far
13:51 <ADragonDreaming> I'm no fan of it, but the regulatory reaction to this type of thing is annoying, given how many worse things are still being turned a blind eye to.
13:51 <Schism> Well, yeah. It's been known. But you try and ban tobacco...
13:58 <ADragonDreaming> and you create a thriving black market and a huge criminal enterprise
13:59 <ADragonDreaming> (reference: Prohibition of alcohol)
14:01 * Schism nodnods.
14:15 <Jackie> Alcohol isn't bad as cigs tho
14:16 <ADragonDreaming> I'd say comparable.
14:16 <ADragonDreaming> Vaping definitely isn't as bad as cigs, though.
14:18 <Jackie> Sucks that the channel that mlp was on was pulled off
14:24 <Cepheid> With respect to vaping, cigarettes and smoking weed and all that, all I want to say on the topic, and discuss no more after that due to reasons, is that your lungs aren't designed to inhale smoke or large amounts of water vapour. In the case of weed and cigarettes, the smoke(and chemicals in the case of cigs), is bad for the lungs. In the case of vaping..
14:24 * Jackie skrees
14:24 <Cepheid> My biggest concerns there are in respect to ye know, inhaling vapour. And the potential for creating a breeding ground for bacteria.
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14:28 * Jackie is a bat pony
14:29 * Cepheid awakens, consumes breakfast in a ravenous manner, then gets to work on stuff.
14:31 <Cepheid> Spitfire, you are hurting my right arm.
14:31 <Cepheid> Stop treating me like I'm some sort of kitten. I'm OLDER THAN YOU.
14:37 * Schism also skrees. And provides Jackie with a Great Serpent of Ronka.
14:37 <Cepheid> https://www.reddit.com/r/dndmemes/comments/ddi0mj/listen_salumash_ill_deal_with_the_paladin_later/?st=k1dnviu7&sh=92f65f28 *Skeletons* *16th cat he's brought this week.*
14:38 <Cepheid> ...
14:38 <Cepheid> Spitfire, that's the umpteenth time you've show me your butt. Stop showing me your butt. I've seen it enough times today.
14:39 <Schism> He is showing his appreciation as a cat.
14:40 <Cepheid> Except that it's not a cat. That's from Overlord. That thing is a giant rodent, miniaturized.
14:40 <Schism> Indeed. A giant hamster which has eaten a demon core.
14:41 <Schism> Also, Momonda is really not that evil.
14:42 <ADragonDreaming> *Momonga
14:42 <Schism> I almost got his name right. Heh.
14:42 * Jackie pets Schism
14:43 <ADragonDreaming> Apparently in the light novel he excitedly slaughters entire battalions to fuel a summoning spell.
14:43 <Schism> I'm given to understand they attacked him first.
14:43 <Schism> Or maybe I'm conflating it with something else.
14:44 <Cepheid> That doesn't surprise me, ADragonDreaming.
14:44 <Cepheid> I need to get back to reading the light novel, in fact.
14:44 <Schism> Momonga is profoundly amoral, if memory serves, which is not strictly the same thing as evil.
14:44 <Cepheid> I'm up to the second season of the anime. The lizardfolk and all that.
14:44 <Cepheid> Well, it's not so much the player is amoral.
14:44 <Cepheid> But rather, something is *MAKING* him like that.
14:45 <ADragonDreaming> he's a lich.
14:45 <Cepheid> It's implied on a regular basis that something is flattening his emotions and such.
14:47 * Cepheid leaves an albino lizard covered in a shrubbery in the room. "Figured a plant or two would spruce up the room."
14:47 <Schism> She is very tree-like, yes.
14:48 <ADragonDreaming> "Ainz's attack on E-Rantel in vol 9. could qualify [as a moral event horizon] depending on your point of view. Using a super tier spell to insta-kill some seventy thousand soldiers - many of whom were conscripts, using their deaths to fuel the summoning of five unstoppable abominations who proceeded
14:48 <ADragonDreaming> to kill countless more is another." This hasn't happened in the anime or manga yet I don't think but.
14:48 <Cepheid> 'Course, her shrubbery disguise is less a disguise and more just to protect herself from the sun's harmful rays.
14:49 <Cepheid> SPitfire, I am- *Headbutt* -busy.
14:52 <Schism> Whoop. Vic Mignogna's defamation suit was thrown out in entirety.
14:53 <Cepheid> John Kirby has passed away.
14:53 <Schism> Aw crud.
14:53 * Schism sheds a tear for the lawyer behind the most remarkable lawsuit Nintendo has ever had.
14:54 <Schism> (behind the resolution of*)
14:55 <Cepheid> ...
14:56 <Cepheid> Geminilake Intel CPUs have a critical bug in them.
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14:57 <Cepheid> Seems to be one specific model, though.
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14:57 <Cepheid> And might be microcode-related.
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15:00 <Cepheid> Though some investigation suggests it might not be microcode. In any case, it seems to be a specific family of CPU, a specific model, and a specific stepping of CPU. Apparently it causes crashing in software. In particular, chromium and firefox are most notable right now. Other software is likely subject to the problem too.
15:00 * Schism offers Ali a snug, and also some slimeballs for sticky pistons.
15:03 <Ali> You know one silly thing I've wanted to do with sticky pistons
15:04 <Ali> Is to make a pitfall trap but not make it obvious there's pistons
15:05 <Ali> But MC is sooooo boring
15:05 <Schism> Well, it depends on what you're doing in it, but it is more like a model train set than anything.
15:07 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/2_1718or2/status/1180495553051774976
15:09 <Ali> So what does this new mod do Cepheid?
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15:11 * Schism offers Cepheid a plush Lucy Lacemaker.
15:11 <Cepheid> Loaders. Little boxes that you can place up against objects that have inventories to either pull from them, or insert into them, at belt speeds.
15:11 <Cepheid> So 15, 30, or 45 items/sec
15:12 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=32&v=Qekvxw9t7zo You have no idea how tempting it is for me to subject our world to this.
15:12 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
15:12 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Factorio - Nauvis Invasion HEAVY METAL!!
15:12 * Schism goes out for brunch.
15:14 <Ali> Is that yellow bug the behemoth?
15:16 <Cepheid> That player's world is modded to hell. Looks like he's using Bob's Enemies, alongside Rampant.
15:16 <Cepheid> Along with AAI Vehicles.
15:16 <Ali> All greek to me dear, I barely mod any game
15:16 <Ali> Cept when I tried to mod FO4 and it still didn't help
15:17 <Cepheid> Basically, outside of the Blue and Red bugs, the other coloured bugs are "elemental"
15:17 <Ali> Oh
15:17 <Cepheid> So fire, electrical, etc.
15:17 <Ali> So what happened when a huge area blew the hell up
15:18 <Cepheid> That was a modded vehicle exploding.
15:18 <Ali> Couldn't have been the arty, that range is too short
15:18 <Cepheid> As for behemoth bugs..
15:18 <Cepheid> Those would be the largest of the largest ones that you see.
15:18 <Ali> I didn't watch the whole thing
15:19 <Ali> But I thought the large yellow one would've been the behemoth
15:19 <Cepheid> Basically, they're about twice the size of the large bugs.
15:19 <Ali> I'm not sure if I've ever seen one? Are they green?
15:19 <Cepheid> They also have health going into thousands.
15:19 <Ali> Yes yes I know
15:19 <Ali> Thankfully the uranium tank shells do over 1k damage
15:19 <ADragonDreaming> green-yellow, yes.
15:19 <ADragonDreaming> the big one you're talking about was a behemoth.
15:20 * Ali boops ADragonDreaming she knows that the large ones are behemoths
15:20 <Cepheid> There's no other way top describe them other than "They're large."
15:21 * ADragonDreaming boops Ali, he was just answering the question of whether the yellow one was a behemoth
15:23 <Ali> I might fire up the game after newponi is over
15:23 <ADragonDreaming> "Detruire tu. C'est une obligation." I know this music from something.
15:24 <ADragonDreaming> Command and Conquer, I want to say.
15:28 <Wicked_Wings> what the devil are you guys discussing?!
15:28 <ADragonDreaming> Factorio.
15:29 <Ali> You build a factory, that ticks of bugs, so you kill bugs
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15:31 <Cepheid> You then build more stuff, tick off more bugs, and kill more bugs.
15:31 <Cepheid> Until you pretty much conquer the world or launch a rocket. Conquering the world isn't viable in any scenario.
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15:34 <Ali> And my computer froze hard
15:35 * Cepheid designs a mod in which you launch parts up in a rocket to construct a superweapon. You then construct a BIG RED BUTTON, and one more rocket, with a seat in it for getting into the rocket. You hit the button, starting a countdown. Get in the rocket, launch off the planet to a new planet(New surface to build on).
15:36 <Cepheid> After the countdown, the old surface is completely destroyed.
15:36 <Cepheid> You just blew up a planet.
15:36 <Ali> Heh
15:39 <Lumindia> interesting
15:42 <Ali> So lets see
15:42 <Ali> How should we progress now in the game
15:42 <Ali> Has the iron processing been expanded?
15:44 <Cepheid> I have no idea.
15:44 <Cepheid> But we've been slowly disassembling the old processing in favour of your stuff.
15:44 <ADragonDreaming> beyond including powdering
15:44 <ADragonDreaming> no.
15:44 <Cepheid> Copper's been hooked up. Tin needs improved processing though.
15:45 <Ali> Can probably do that when I log in
15:46 * Cepheid creates a D&D shop. In it is a merchant who absolutely, positively, refuses to haggle. Also, it's full of innocuous looking items that will most definitely explode if set on fire in any way, killing all inside.
15:47 * Cepheid watches the tavern go up in flames instead.
15:51 <Cepheid> I want to create a weapons mod, now. Just different kinds of "cool" weapons to kill the bugs with.
15:51 <Cepheid> Swords, scythes, laser guns, kamehameha, etc.
15:52 <Ali> Turn super sayain and just ki blast them dead
15:52 <Cepheid> Personally I'd go spirit bombing.
15:52 <Ali> If you
15:52 <Ali> If you're just gonna blow the planet up
15:52 <Cepheid> Well, not that level of spirit bomb.
15:52 <Ali> Then be Freeza
15:52 <Ali> God I can't spell
15:53 <Cepheid> More just the concept. Create a massive ball of energetic molecules, then slam it into the ground nearby, destroying everything it hits, and sending out a shockwave.
15:53 <Cepheid> And when I say "everything it hits" I mean it. Structures, players, enemies, the land.
15:53 <Cepheid> It gets replaced with water.
15:54 <Cepheid> Or a blank void.
15:54 <Cepheid> Turns out Nauvis, the planet we landed on, is hollow/a plane.
15:54 <Ali> Or Cepheid
15:54 <Ali> Replace everything with
15:54 <Ali> CLIFFFFFSSSSS
15:54 <Cepheid> Heh.
15:54 <Cepheid> Yeah, a crater works, too.
15:54 <Cepheid> But it'd need new land to make it look right.
15:55 <Cepheid> To create the sense of curvature and digging into the ground.
15:55 <Cepheid> Can't imagine nauvis is all sand and green land down to the core.
15:55 <Cepheid> Fun note.
15:56 <Cepheid> When I read the name "Nauvis" I keep thinking of the English word "new." Why? "nouveau"
15:56 <Cepheid> One of the few French words I know.
15:57 <Cepheid> I also know how to count up to 4, how to say "Hello", and... the rest I can't say here.
15:58 <ADragonDreaming> un, deux, trois, quatre, cinq, six, sept, huit, neuf, dix, onze, douze treize, quatorze, quinze, seize, dix-sept, dix-huit, dix-sept, vingt, vingt et un, vingt deux...
15:58 <Cepheid> Yes, yes.
15:59 <Cepheid> ichi, ni, san, yon, go, roku, nana, hachi, kyuu, jyuu, jyuuichi, jyuuni, jyuusan, jyuuyon, jyuugo, jyuuroku, jyuunana, jyuuhachi, jyuukyuu, nijyuu, nijyuuichi...
15:59 <ADragonDreaming> trente, quarante, cinquante, soixante, soixante-dix, quatre-au-vingt, quatre-vingts, quatre vingt dix, cent
16:00 <ADragonDreaming> do note. That's 10-7, 10-8, 10-9. And then 60-10, 4-20's, and 4-20's 10
16:00 <Cepheid> That feeling when you know how to count in Japanese better than you do in French.
16:00 <Cepheid> 60-10 = 70, I presume.
16:00 <ADragonDreaming> yes.
16:00 <Cepheid> Interesting way of counting.
16:01 <ADragonDreaming> quite strange.
16:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Gameleon: The Other Happy Couple [ http://tinyurl.com/y5jpbyv9 ]
16:01 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, in Japanese, the separators are every 4 digits apart, not 3 digits apart.
16:02 <Cepheid> Also, counting's a bit weird when you go from 1000 to 10000.
16:04 <Cepheid> You can use 1000 by itself to represent 1000, so 「千」 is 1000. But for 10,000 and beyond, you have to specify a number prior to the kanji. 「一万」 is 10,000. You can't do 「万」 by itself. Has to be 「一万」.
16:06 * Ali decides to flop onto the server, unicorn not sure what else to do today.
16:07 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, anything past 10,000 as far as I know, is counted in multiples of 10,000. So for example, 1,000,000 would be 「百万」- "100-10,000", so similar to French in that respect.
16:07 <Ali> Ok game, stop making me reboot factorio
16:07 <Ali> Mod missing, download and join?
16:07 <Cepheid> Yes.
16:07 <Ali> Mod mismatch, refix and load?
16:07 <Cepheid> Ah, heh.
16:08 <Ali> This is the crap its doing to me
16:08 <Cepheid> Yeah, it doesn't grab settings at the same time.
16:08 <Cepheid> It needs to grab the mod, then possibly downgrade. Then grab the mod settings.
16:08 <Cepheid> Doesn't query all of this information in one fell swoop.
16:08 <Cepheid> While a nice functionality, not implemented in the best manner.
16:08 <Cepheid> The server should just outright send back *ALL* the information at the same time.
16:08 <Ali> There's a base out to the west in the stink
16:10 <Cepheid> Yes.
16:10 <Cepheid> Ironically we haven't been attacked from that direction.
16:10 <Cepheid> The most recent attack came from the east.
16:10 <Cepheid> I'll be on in an hour or two. Got some homework I'm now getting to work on.
16:11 <Cepheid> ... I find it interesting that I now understand relational calculus in relation to databases better than I do in relation to set theory.
16:11 <ADragonDreaming> we have been attacked from that direction.
16:11 <ADragonDreaming> happened after you got off
16:12 <Cepheid> Ah.
16:12 <Ali> Added turrets to the wall
16:12 <Cepheid> I'm gonna be turret-walling soon. In fact, if you could do me a slight favour.
16:13 <ADragonDreaming> automate miniguns?
16:13 <Cepheid> On the left-hand side of the bus, I beleive just above the red belt/red underground producer, there's a factory that produces miniguns.
16:13 <Cepheid> The inserter that takes from the assembler and puts into the box is configured to stop taking when the box has 50 turrets.
16:13 <Cepheid> Could you click that assembler, and change the number to 150?\
16:14 <Cepheid> Turrets have been automated for a while, ADragonDreaming. I copied the assembler from the Island.
16:14 <Cepheid> I've been copying some of the designs from it by blueprinting them, and shoving into my blueprint library.
16:15 <ADragonDreaming> schwye
16:15 <Cepheid> I'm probably gonna install the clip producer as a result.
16:15 <Cepheid> Since with as many turrets as we'll have, we're gonna need a lot of ammo.
16:15 <Cepheid> And that factory produced like, 5 clips/sec.
16:16 <Cepheid> Shotgun's nice, but it's lost it's effectiveness for the time being. Need PAMK2 and Shield Mk2.
16:16 <Cepheid> Otherwise, that thing shreds groups if you're far back enough. And worms don't stand a chance against it.
16:16 <Cepheid> 'Course, Ali with her explosive rockets also makes the whole thing moot.
16:16 * Cepheid should automate those for her.
16:17 <ADragonDreaming> turrets have ben altered.
16:18 <Cepheid> Pray you don't alter them further?
16:18 <ADragonDreaming> Indeed. All resources to turrets. nothing but turrets. All hail the turret.
16:19 * Cepheid praises the glorious turret.
16:20 <Cepheid> Also, there's a bug with the turret researches.
16:20 <Cepheid> Apparently, if you hit space science before you research the highest tier of non-infinite turret techs, they're unlocked anyways.
16:21 <Cepheid> And if you navigate the tree, you can research them.
16:22 <Cepheid> I dunno though, 'cause of the strength of minigun ammo, it feels like the extra turrets are just that. Extra turrets.
16:22 * Schism returns from brunch. "Mmm. Carrot and potato curry."
16:22 <Cepheid> Nice to have, but not very useful with vanilla bugs.
16:22 <Cepheid> Of course, they don't use ammo, so..
16:23 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, the shotgun turret, that was a smart addition for starting-game.
16:23 <Cepheid> Getting minigun turrets before you even get an SMG in vanilla Factorio is senseless.
16:24 <Cepheid> An more sensible solution overall would be to split turrets into different caliber sizes, instead of one-turret-handles-all-ammo setups.
16:25 <Cepheid> So if you want your damage upgrades, you need to replace the turrets with a higher caliber turret, and appropriate ammo.
16:25 <Cepheid> Then again, I'm not sure how the whole caliber, propellant, and such works for increasing range, accuracy and damage
16:26 <Cepheid> Not a gun expert. I would assume larger bullets cause more damage, at the expense of a shorter range, due to air resistance and needing a bigger payload of propellant to fire them.
16:26 <Cepheid> Also, larger rounds mean more mass, so the impact would be harder, possibly knocking the target back. Of course, the barrel changes as a result of all of this, and longer barrels and such are required for X accuracy, speed, etc.
16:28 <Cepheid> That said, accuracy is less of a concern with an automated mounted turret design.. <words words words, thinking, thinking, thinking>
16:29 <Cepheid> Presumably, turrets would be extremely accurate. They are designed to deal with kickback, and with optical equipment, lead better than a human could. A human meanwhile, would have to deal with kickback from the gun, and of course, human reaction times factor into leading, and then there's general steadiness of one's arms.
16:29 <Cepheid> So seeing turrets almost always hit their mark would be expected. Players, not so much.
16:30 <Cepheid> Gah, why am I doing this? I have work to do.
16:30 * Cepheid tries to focus.
16:33 <Cepheid> o/` Reaper, reaper, that's what people call me. Why? 'Cause they aaaaalll die, when I sing I end their lives. You act as though payback makes you a nobleman, is that a fact? Well, you're a goddamn philistine! o/`
16:42 * Schism reads that in Etna's voice.
16:43 <Schism> Or Flonne's. o3o;
16:43 <Cepheid> Heh.
16:44 <Cepheid> It's from Suda51's No More Heroes 2. It's played during Margaret Moonlight's battle. She's a gothic lolita who weilds a pair of scythes with freakin' anti-material rifles installed into the staves.
16:45 <Cepheid> https://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=832453
16:47 <Cepheid> Interestingly, they made 3 versions of her songs.
16:48 <Cepheid> One for Japan, one for the Western world, and one for Australia.
16:48 <Cepheid> The best of the bunch is the Japanese version. Western one doesn't quite sound right with the singer's voice. Meanwhile, I can't find the australian one at all.
16:48 <ADragonDreaming> One song to ruel them all, and in the darkness bind them?
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16:50 <Cepheid> Hell if I know.
16:50 <Schism> Hmm... oh. Margaret Moonlight is voiced by Tara Strong.
16:51 <Cepheid> Yeah.
16:51 <Schism> Swear to Eris, at this point you could play The Six Degrees of Tara Strong.
16:51 <Cepheid> Probably.
16:52 <Cepheid> I like how she seems to like all types of characters. Not just cutesy marshmallow ponies.
16:52 <Cepheid> I mean, look at what she's done for TV shows. Then for video games.
16:56 <Schism> Indeed!
16:56 <Cepheid> "list the min, max and avg marks for the db course." "ALG> T1:= select cname = 'DB' (Grade njoin Course); aggregate min(mark), max(mark), avg(mark) (T1)" "TRC> { min(G.mark), max(G.mark), avg(G.mark) | G in Grade and (exist in C in Course)(G.c# = C.c# and C.CNAME = "DB") }"
16:56 <Cepheid> I prefer TRC.
17:00 <Schism> An age-old question: http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff2800/fc02706.htm
17:01 <Cepheid> Too short a life span, too much work we want to get done.
17:02 <Cepheid> On top of that, theoretically, machines can also perform work we do several magnitudes faster, so if we compare ourselves to machines, in one lifespan doing one particular activity that a computer can do, a computer could probably do several human lifespans doing that particular activity within the same amount of time.
17:03 <Schism> Indeed.
17:03 * Schism wurps. "I think I'm going to get back to sleep shortly."
17:03 <Cepheid> When you have being A, with a lifespan measured in some arbitrary unit, next to being B, who's lifespan is several times the length of being A's in the same arbitrary unit, the behaviour of being A will seem odd to being B.
17:04 <Cepheid> Because for being B, an activity which could take decades, has to occur in less time for being A.
17:04 <Schism> Well, in Freefall, the robots have human limitations for story purposes - they only live about 70-80 years because Dr. Bowman couldn't figure out how to program a stable immortal.
17:04 <Schism> And while they can do some processes more quickly, they think at human speeds.
17:05 <Cepheid> To create a stable immortal, it would need to be able to live by itself. Have no connections to individuals. Or no emotions for individuals.
17:05 <Schism> Not a very useful immortal then.
17:05 <Cepheid> It has to be capable of seeing everything as having a limited lifespan, that cannot be measured to an incredible accuracy, and on top of that, see everything as a tool.
17:06 <Cepheid> And prepare itself for the eventuality that something's existence will be cut short.
17:07 <Cepheid> It's the basic philisophical problem of immortality. How long can one person live, watching people around then get born, grow old, and then die?
17:07 <Cepheid> The only way around it is to be a cold, emotionless individual.
17:07 <Cepheid> One who cares not for others.
17:08 <Cepheid> Otherwise, watching your friends, immediate family, and their descendents growing up, and dying constantly, will eventually take it's toll on you. Not to mention seeing centuries and centuries of horrific actions being taken out by all sorts of people. On one hand..
17:08 <Cepheid> It makes you wonder how that person would be after a few centuries. On the other hand?
17:08 <Cepheid> That's worse than hell.
17:10 <Cepheid> And yet, I am an individual who would like to figure out how to A) Do a scan of my brain in such a way that it's an instantaneous snapshot of one moment, and B) Figure out consciousness so that it can be moved from one entity to another.
17:10 <Cepheid> In particular, body to machine.
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17:12 <Cepheid> I am a programmer. Long after AI takes over most programming, my skills will still be of use. I have my doubts that AIs will be the be-all, end-all solution to all problems. It'll certainly help solve a lot of them, sure. But you will still need experts in the field.
17:15 <Cepheid> Hell, unlike most other fields where robotics are taking over the jobs for people who do the manual labour, programming is one of those fields that will, ultimately, stick around. Because all you need for it is a computer.
17:15 <Cepheid> Which is something a consumer can get ahold of.
17:16 <Cepheid> Unlike a full production line with parts coming down the line, and a whole bunch of specialized and possibly proprietary tools to assemble those parts. Kinda hard to fit one into your own home to keep doing what you enjoy.
17:16 <Cepheid> That said, 3D printers are making it more viable to print individual components and such for assembling.
17:17 * Cepheid is thinky-thinky talky-talky today. TOO MUCH CAFFIENE AGHAJDLGFSHJLG.
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17:26 <Cepheid> I wonder if there is a term for the effect that music can have on people. Doesn't strike me as a synesthesia thing. To give an example of what I mean, the right speed, sound, and beat induces fight-or-flight/adrenaline responses, a euphoric feeling, etc.
17:26 * DashedRainbows plays with her squeaky toy. it's not the same
17:26 <Cepheid> Which, sometimes I think might be what's triggering my "temper" at times.
17:29 <Cepheid> https://i.redd.it/c0h2ha4x3qq31.jpg
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17:43 <Koopz> https://koopz.rocks/s/2019-10-05_19-43-20.png back in business
17:44 <Koopz> hopefully the bot will continue to work until i reach the legendary 100k llamas milestone
17:57 <Cepheid> The thing that agitates me about my databases course is that it's all theoretical currently, no practical.
17:57 <Cepheid> As such, there is no way to test your queries to ensure correctness.
17:58 <Cepheid> You have to hope you understand the results of the various operations.
17:59 <Ali> Hmm, it works, but it has issues
17:59 <Cepheid> And even worse?
17:59 <Cepheid> There's no textbook assigned to the class.
17:59 <Cepheid> So there's no practice exercises for anything.
18:00 <Cepheid> It is THE worst-designed course I've seen thus far.
18:05 <Ali> And the Chrome age is unlocked
18:06 <ADragonDreaming> huzzah!
18:06 <ADragonDreaming> I'm returning with a workable steel blueprint.
18:06 <Cepheid> Finwe, given: { x | 0 < x < 5 }, what is the formal term for the "|"? I read it as "such that..." thus, "Include each x such that 0 < x < 5." Is this correct?
18:06 <Cepheid> Yeah, steel's tricky 'cause of the need for carbon. That said, it's more realistic this way.
18:07 <Cepheid> You can't just throw a bunch of iron into a furnace and have it come out as a lump of steel. It'll just come out as a lump of iron.
18:07 <Cepheid> Carbon needs to be added. At the least, base factorio should have included coal as a requirement.
18:14 <Cepheid> { H.Name | H in Hobby and (exist PL in Play, exist P in Person)(P.Name = 'Lastname' and P.P# = PL.P# and H.H# = PL.H#) };" I have no idea if this is correct for the intended, goal. Based on examining examples and their results(Which is the best I can get for "practicing" right now), it should be correct. So... *Shrugs* *Puts down as answer*
18:15 <Cepheid> Databases. Nice, useful, easy when you can practice them. Not so easy when you can't practice them.
18:18 <Cepheid> As for what all of this stuff is, basically a database is comprised of a number of tables. These tables have relational information between them. To get data back, you set up queries that specify relationship data between zero, one or more tables, and it'll return the relevant data. It's useful for finding say, the names of people who are registered in three or more courses that are all taught in a particular building.
18:18 <Cepheid> Or, as an example in my assignment:
18:19 <Cepheid> "Get the name(s) of people who have hobbies, but have the least number of hobbies."
18:22 <Cepheid> In a weird, convoluted way, the entirety of Factorio is a massive database.
18:33 <Wicked_Wings> guys i need to know: if you were using a photo editing software to color in a line art for someone, what would you use, that can be downloaded for free.
18:35 <Cobalt_Blitz> Gimp is alright, not great or terrible just sort of alright and free.
18:37 <Wicked_Wings> sweet thanks
18:40 * Cepheid makes Schism a pot of coffee. It's actually just an entire container of coffee grounds, combined with literally 1/10th the coffee grounds mass worth of water.
18:48 <Cepheid> First draft of assignment done. Time for break.
18:51 <Cepheid> So, random question. Anyone here use a CPAP machine?
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18:52 <Ali> Not me personally but my mom does
18:52 <Ali> At least... 'supposed' to
18:53 * OctaveSymphony boops Ali
18:53 <Cepheid> Yeah, I'm supposed to get one myself.
18:53 <Cepheid> Just wanted to ask if they ever got used to it over the long term.
18:54 <ADragonDreaming> my dad does
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21:02 <Finwe> Cepheid: Yup, the set of all x s.t. the condition is satisfied.
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22:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Poll Results: Pirates of Ninja Ponies?! [ http://tinyurl.com/yxq8l9y4 ]
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23:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: G.M. Berrow and Nowacking Heading to BronyScot 2019 [ http://tinyurl.com/y4yupm7c ]
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23:34 <Schism> Hum. Cutie Mark Crusaders Flamethrowers, yaaay.
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