Log archive of EquestriaDaily for Sunday, 2019-11-10

00:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Student Six 334 / Not Unimportant 3 / Confrontation 5-6 / Peppermint 46 [ http://tinyurl.com/yy2pfr2d ]

00:04 * Schism drinks a whiskey drink, he drinks a vodka drink. He drinks a rye drink, he drinks a drinky drink.

00:04 * Filly_Nightmares eees at DashedRainbows and gravitates back!

00:05 * DashedRainbows looks at Filly_Nightmares. obviously I did not throw hard enough

00:05 <Cepheid> Still say The Evil Within is a good representation of mental illness, when you examine it from a perspective that's...  Hard to see.

00:06 <Cepheid> When I suffer an episode, it feels like the world is out to get me.  This is best represented by the monsters.  At the same time, everything just... feels like a mess.  A jumble of chaos.  This is represented by the chaotic nature of the game's world.  And then, there's the feeling like everything is just falling apart all at once, and you can't do anything about it.  Represented by the world LITERALLY FALLING APART in the game.

00:08 <Cepheid> And then you have the feelings of hopelessness, like you lack control.  That'd probably be best represented by Ruvik himself.

00:10 <Cepheid> Of course, I could just be over-analyzing.

00:15 <Schism> Eh, a central tenet of Discordianism is that we see the world through our own lenses, but that sounds right to me.

00:16 <Dranae> Don't you mean solipsism

00:16 *** Parts: DashedRainbows (dashedrhg1@Winged.Horsey.Dog.Thing) ("User left")

00:16 <Dranae> We experience reality only through our senses, and thus reality exists only when we perceive it?

00:16 <Schism> That too, and of course there is the ever present reality of Plato's Cave.

00:17 <Dranae> which is the Stone of Snow-Throat.

00:17 <Dranae> In TES lore

00:17 <Schism> "We look at the world through windows on which have been drawn grids (concepts). Different philosophies use different grids. A culture is a group of people with rather similar grids. Through a window we view chaos, and relate it to the points on our grid, and thereby understand it. The order is in the grid. That is the Aneristic Principle."

00:18 <Schism> "Some grids can be more useful than others, some more beautiful than others, some more pleasant than others, but none can be more True than any other."

00:18 <Dranae> Schism, have you read any TES lore?

00:18 <Dranae> Like the crazy deep stuff

00:18 * Schism drives Dranae insane by doing absolutely nothing at all.

00:19 <Schism> Some, but not to that level.

00:19 <Dranae> So

00:19 <Dranae> What if I told you that you need to do so

00:19 <Dranae> like right now

00:19 <Schism> I dunno, I'd kinda rather just punch some Thalmor.

00:21 <Dranae> The Thalmor are trying to unmake reality.

00:21 <Schism> I spent most of my day today, just reading.  Saturdays are slow at my job.  I'm sure Sundays will be too.

00:21 <Schism> Aye, because they believe that Mundus is a bad dream and/or prison.

00:22 <Dranae> nnnnot quite

00:22 <Dranae> Basically they want to move back in with their parents

00:23 <ADragonDreaming> burning down the old house in the process.

00:24 <Schism> "By the blessings of the Eight Divines..." "Oh, STFU and chop my head off already." "...very well."

00:24 <Dranae> TBH if I was that guy

00:24 <Dranae> 'You're forgetting my god, elf-licker.'

00:24 <Schism> No kidding.

00:24 <Dranae> 'Get it right or get it over with.'

00:25 <Schism> It's kind of funny how I missed that the first time, but on later playthroughs it was all like '...oh, that's why he's so fed up."

00:25 <Dranae> When I heard them say EIGHT Divines

00:26 <Dranae> I nearly had an aneurysm.

00:26 <Schism> Ahahaha.

00:27 <Dranae> I kid you not

00:27 <Dranae> In that singular moment

00:27 <Dranae> I knew that I would never ever side with the Thalmor-backed Empire

00:28 <Schism> Pretty good reason for that.  I usually put off the civil war as long as I can.

00:28 <Schism> Though it doesn't hurt that the Empire tried to cut off your freakin' head.

00:28 * Schism should play through Skyrim again. It's not spectacularly deep. That's okay.

00:28 <Schism> So many mods, though, that zoning takes a while.

00:29 <PinkieShy> I never played Skyrim.. or Halo.

00:29 <Schism> That's okay, I never played Halo either.  Had fun with ILoveBees, though.

00:29 <Schism> PinkieShy: You could always play Marathon.  It's free!

00:29 <Schism> (And will break your brain.  The later games, anyway.)

00:31 * Cepheid has some chores he wanted to get done earlier. Should probably get them done before he continues the game.

00:31 * Schism nods.

00:32 <Schism> MFW I realize I dodged a bullet.  I don't work on Cyber Monday.

00:32 <Dranae> Look, Khajiit is a simple one. He has done some wrongs, yes... but what wrong is there in coming to a new land? What did Khajiit do to deserve execution? Feh. Petty dullclawed Imperials.

00:33 <Schism> Channeling M'aiq today, are we?  

00:33 * Cepheid wobbles around. Headphones are getting to him and his head.

00:34 <Schism> Hmm.  I'm working on Christmas.  Yay!  Stat pay.

00:34 * Schism expects to get flooded with customers tho.

00:35 <PinkieShy> I read that as 'waddles around' instead of wobbles :P

00:35 <Schism> Does anyone else really, really like when something new and unexpected crops up in their job?  Like, hey, the day's been too boring, let's have a customer with a problem which nobody can figure out?

00:36 <PinkieShy> O.o wait stores stay open on Christmas in Canada?

00:36 <PinkieShy> If i remember correctly your from Canada right Schism?

00:36 <Schism> Not most of them.  But I'm working at a call center.

00:36 <Schism> And aye, that I am.

00:37 <PinkieShy> I know here.. Everything is closed christmas except for like Walgreens and gas stations and waffle house.

00:37 <Schism> Pointedly, I'm working at a call center with an online store as our client.

00:38 <Schism> They probably sell stuff you've worn once or twice.  :P

00:48 <lunanightwindphone> Hello

00:51 * Cepheid unplugs headphones. Time to use speakers.

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00:53 <Cepheid> Oh yes, game, that inspires me with confidence going onwards.  Freakin' unpowered spinning blade traps overhead in a passageway.  *Crouches and creeps through*

00:53 <Schism> Welcome to floor 4 of the Endless Corridor.

00:53 <Cepheid> Hey Shade.

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01:01 <Jackie> i'm crying irl...

01:01 * DashedRainbows wraps herself in Dranae's wings. tis cold

01:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3155 [ http://tinyurl.com/y4s5pwl2 ]

01:03 * DashedRainbows brushies Jackie anyway

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01:11 <lunanightwindphone> Why you crying jackie you ok?

01:12 <Jackie> just heartbroken

01:13 <lunanightwindphone> Awwww im sorry

01:14 <lunanightwindphone> It stinks getting your heart broken i hope you can patch it up enough to see that tomorrow can be a better day

01:17 <Dranae> This is one of the best parts of this site

01:17 <Dranae> See, it tries to decipher the 36 lessons of Vivec

01:17 <Dranae> All I can offer here is guesses. Maybe the knowledge is "invisible" because it is only knowledge, and not physical like weaponry or armor. Maybe it's "invisible" because it's difficult to discern and therefore obscure and hard to learn. Perhaps it's "invisible" because it is hidden within Vivec the Thief, who is hidden by nature.

01:17 <Dranae> All guesses, no solid answers. And if this bugs you, by the way, stop reading now. Seriously. It's gonna get worse.

01:18 <Cepheid> Man, there was so much potential for mindscrew with those two rooms.. and the devs didn't take it.

01:21 <Jackie> just seeing DashedRainbows and Filly_Nightmares get more loved...

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01:43 <Cepheid> Huh, a gun in the second DLC.  Wonder how long I'll have it for this time.

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01:45 <Cepheid> ... How am I supposed to kill something if the game won't let me AIM AT IT?

01:46 <Cepheid> It's also a one-hit-killer.

01:47 <Cepheid> Oh, that's how.

01:53 <Cepheid> Right now, this game resonates with me in one, very powerful way.  "Good gods, my head hurts like HELL."

01:53 <Cepheid> Great job, Kidman.  You had that gun for all of 15 game minutes.

02:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1974 [ http://tinyurl.com/y23nrfzt ]

02:48 <Cepheid> .... Aaaaand I recognize this room, and I am familiar with the hell that it is.

02:55 <DashedRainbows> ... sigh

03:01 * Schism waits patiently for mahjong to pop.

03:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ABagOVicodin: NaPoWriMo 2019 Week 1 - 10 Tips To Stay Writing (Repost from 2016) [ http://tinyurl.com/y3l49l9z ]

03:03 * Ali flops over Schism

03:03 * Schism attempts to get people to play Mahjong. This fails.

03:21 * DashedRainbows flops face-first onto the ground

03:26 <Cepheid> Whelp, that's the second DLC done.  I missed some notes, so... *Wikis up the notes*

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03:41 <Lumindia> hecc

03:41 <Lumindia> what's the name of that condition where you have bouts of being unable to sleep?

03:42 <Lumindia> Insomnia, there we go... having ab it of that right now

03:46 * Cepheid wanders off to do nightly chores, then goes about readying bed for sleep. o3o

03:46 <Lumindia> grant me your powers

03:46 <Lumindia> '-'

03:47 <Lumindia> I shoulda been asleep two hours ago

03:51 <Ali> Sleep?  What's that?

03:53 <Lumindia> something I should have been doing by now

03:53 * Lumindia hug the Ali pone

03:54 * Ali lean into Lumindia

03:54 * DashedRainbows goes to boop Ali's horn, but remembers the quota

03:54 * Ali just doesn't like her horn booped to death

03:55 * Lumindia doesn't boop horns, but instead boops snoots. Boops Ali's snoot once

03:55 * Ali squeaks

03:55 <Cepheid> No powers, Lumindia.  Just drugs.

03:55 <Lumindia> gimme

03:55 <Cepheid> Go ask your doctor to prescribe seroquel.

03:56 * DashedRainbows trots away slowly

04:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Rarity Cover: Francis Vace - To The Nines (Covering Koa) [Ska] [ http://tinyurl.com/yxbgm7zb ]

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04:03 <Schism> Alternately, drink entirely too much.

04:04 * Schism checks the clock, then sighs. "Kay. Chicken sammiches tomorrow. With a small salad and an apple."

04:04 <Cepheid> Drinking too much has undesirable consequences, though.

04:06 <Schism> Cepheid: My liver is probably shot after the last month of free coffee.

04:06 <Schism> Statutory regulations insist that all agents must bring a sealed container onto the sales floor if they're going to drink liquids.

04:07 <Schism> Gotta protect those keyboards.

04:07 <Schism> In accordance, I brought in a 32 oz. thermos.  With a straw.

04:07 <Cepheid> Heh.

04:07 <Schism> I empty it several times a day.

04:08 <Schism> Oh, Cepheid.  I had a fun one earlier today.

04:08 <Cepheid> There was one day where I emptied a 1 litre bottle of water at least 8 times in approximately 3 hours.

04:09 <Schism> Agh.

04:09 <Schism> Okay, I'm going to set my multitudinous clocks now.

04:11 <Schism> The problem with many alarm clocks is that even when you have to punch in a code, that will always eventually be something you can do while sleeping.

04:13 <Lumindia> Scree!

04:13 <Schism> screeeeee.

04:13 * Schism flops on Lumindia.

04:13 * Lumindia flails

04:14 <Schism> Sleep now, scree later.

04:14 <Schism> Though I will say, I like how my retainers brought me three sets of very short skirts.

04:14 <Lumindia> heck!

04:15 <Schism> And by 'like' I mean 'what the hell, I don't need more shisui gear, go away."

04:15 <Lumindia> desynth

04:15 <Lumindia> :eyes:

04:15 <Schism> Well.  I mean.  I would.

04:16 <Lumindia> desynthing always succeeds now

04:16 <Lumindia> regardless of desynth level

04:16 <Schism> Except that most of my classes don't have a short skirt comb [*looks at Whisperfine in storage*] ination.

04:16 <Lumindia> I love it

04:17 <Schism> It's fine.  Excuse me while I gently weep over my carefully harvested BSM and ARM desynth levels.

04:17 <Schism> (Which were 90 and 80 or something like that.)

04:18 <Lumindia> https://i.imgur.com/kXS9gFq.png

04:18 <Schism> I only bothered to raise them because of ARR relic weapons anyway, so it's fine.

04:18 <Lumindia> have a great eevee of Ronka

04:18 <Lumindia> o vo

04:19 <Schism> I swear, one of these days I'll have you run through MYST Online so that you can see Gahreesan.

04:20 <Schism> And Kadish Tolesa, but that's more cosmic horror.

04:20 <Schism> Away.

04:22 <Schism> Also.  Lumindia.  Have you seen that pokemon which wears a Pikachu skin?

04:23 <Lumindia> the pikachu dressed up as the mimikyu?

04:23 <Schism> ... let's say yes, then.

04:23 <Lumindia> that what you're going at?

04:23 <Ali> This better not be a Gen 8 spoiler

04:23 <Lumindia> no, Mimikyu is Gen 7

04:24 <Schism> It's true, Sun/Moon era.  Thing dresses up in a dollar-store Pikachu costume.

04:24 <Schism> And then uses one of its 'ears' to stab you.

04:25 <Schism> Here I was, worried that Nintendo wouldn't be paying attention to all the cruddy creepypasta around its works, and now it gives us this.

04:26 <Lumindia> and then for halloween, Pokemon Go has Pikachus dressed up as Mimikyu

04:26 <Lumindia> I see that, and my first thought was "Wait, that's illegal"

04:26 <Schism> That wraps back around to adorable, though.

04:26 <Lumindia> but it's a pikachu cosplaying as a pokemon that's cosplaying as a pikachu

04:27 <Schism> I fail to see the issue!

04:28 <Schism> Next Halloween, I think I'll go as myself.  Just... wrong.

04:28 <Schism> Slight motions, a weight on my leg, a bit of makeup applied incorrectly.

04:30 <Schism> For now, take care, folks.

04:35 <Cepheid> Effin finally.  Head isn't a painful wreck.

04:37 * Filly_Nightmares uses Schism as a bed

04:40 * Cepheid uses Lumindia as a pillow, and Filly_Nightmares as a blanket.

04:40 * Filly_Nightmares purrs and melts on Cepheid and floofs up! She is warm floofy!

04:40 * DashedRainbows flops onto Ali

04:41 * Filly_Nightmares snugglies into happily and purrs!

04:43 * Ali hugs DashedRainbows

04:44 * DashedRainbows wishes sadness could wrap around

04:46 * Filly_Nightmares kneads DashedRainbows

04:47 * DashedRainbows pets the filly

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05:31 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ConfusionRift

05:31 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.

05:32 * DashedRainbows dries her eyes on ConfusionRift's coat

05:32 * ConfusionRift pats DashedRainbows.

05:32 <Tirek> 'Mornin.

05:33 * ConfusionRift wavies.

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05:47 <ConfusionRift> "Do you remember that large colony of ants I have running through tubes throughout my entire home?" | Yeah, I remember that. Pretty cool setup. | "Well..." (shows the disconnected tube and lack of ants) | Ohmaaaan, things got interesting. :P

05:47 <Ali> Hope they weren't a dangerous one

05:50 <LightningCrash> Just douse your house in antifreeze.

05:50 <LightningCrash> I hear it freezes ants

05:50 <ConfusionRift> "But that makes no sense!" :P

05:51 <ConfusionRift> It's not one of the most aggressive species of ants in terms of biting others and such, but it is one of the fast growing, and most dominant ones.

05:52 <ConfusionRift> So if you're ant keeping, and you got these loose, you better look for a way to either control them or get rid of them... faaast.

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05:59 <ConfusionRift> Oh yeah, multi-queen colony, so... fuuun.

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06:33 <Hajnal> Ayo.

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07:52 * ConfusionRift turns on the console. "Play time."

08:15 <Finwe> Morning, everypony.

08:16 <Finwe> Mlles Ali, DashedRainbows and Filly_Nightmares; Messrs Dranae, LightningCrash, Cepheid and Schism.

08:16 * Finwe doffs his hat.

08:16 * Ali flops over Finwe

08:16 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)

08:17 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift, Capt Koopz.

08:17 <Finwe> o7

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09:00 <Schism> One of the best things about glasses is how you can panic about losing them when they're right in front of your face the whole time.

09:00 * Schism awakens. Won't be up long. Boops ConfusionRift with a small 3rd-party XBox controller.

09:06 * ConfusionRift boops Schism with the randomizer. "All done!"

09:06 <ConfusionRift> Also, last I used a third party controller... yeah. It lasted me about a month or so. -_-

09:13 <Schism> Congrats!  And ah.  I hold out hopes that this one is SLIGHTLY better than the Logitech variety, which has internal connections comprised of bismuth and spit.

09:16 <ConfusionRift> Well, I'm not really using it wirelessly... same with my other controllers, including my current PS4 one. Logitech has been hit or miss with me, with my last controller being a miss. One of the sticks just decided to go on vacation and be there in spirit... ... ...the stick stopped working completely. And later, for whatever reason, no software could recognize it.

09:17 <Schism> Last time I got a Logitech controller, the wire was ripped off the board internally.

09:18 <Schism> This one actually has a pretty solid MicroUSB connection to it.

09:18 <ConfusionRift> Uuuuh.

09:19 <ConfusionRift> Only had that issue with my old Genesis controller. My father was so frustrated with it (with how expensive and broken it was) that he launched it outside. Saw it hanging from the tree before headed to school.

09:20 <Schism> I actually took the controller apart before discovering that oh, yeah, it's a recurring theme because Logitech likes to use weak solder on the pieces that receive the most wear and tear.

09:21 <Schism> This is also why every Logitech headset I have ever owned lacks a working left earpiece.

09:21 <ConfusionRift> Using the PS4 for the PC and... PS4. And an SN30 Pro for the switch. Real nice this thing. And yeah, literally held with hoped and dreams.

09:22 <Schism> This is a PDP XBox one.  Time will tell if it's even halfway decent.

09:22 <ConfusionRift> Ooooh... boooy. Well, ain't as bad as PowerA, as far as I know.

09:22 <Schism> Eh.  If it screws up, I'm out $30.

09:22 <ConfusionRift> Actually, I think it's a relatively new company.

09:23 <Schism> It -feels- solid, but it's impossible to tell for sure.

09:23 <Schism> Admittedly, the lack of signed Microsoft drivers was probably a pretty good indication that this won't be worth my time, but I'll try and stay positive.

09:24 <ConfusionRift> Actually... wait, huh?

09:24 <Schism> Had to snag the drivers from their website, because Windows 8.1.

09:24 <Schism> They were signed, but that raises a red flag.

09:25 <ConfusionRift> Ooooohhhh... thaaaaaat problem.

09:25 <ConfusionRift> You see, I turned that off completely, because I tend to mess around with drivers a lot. :P

09:26 <Schism> So, I have two options at this point.

09:27 <Schism> I can either stay awake and simply power through my shift for which I leave in three hours, replete with chicken sandwiches and lasagna, or I can take a nap and risk not waking up in time because I have a fantastic ability to turn off twelve alarm clocks without actually being awake.

09:28 <Schism> It's Sunday.  I think the shoe company will somehow manage to survive my being half awake, and I intend to mainline coffee while I'm there anyway.

09:28 <ConfusionRift> Me being me, I would second wind it. Once the shift is over, then crash for a while. I always fear that by napping I would just crash for hours, instead of minutes, which always happens.

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09:28 * Schism boops ConfusionRift with a sneaker.

09:29 <Schism> Mostly I expect to get a few chats about the new rare item drops and a couple of folks wondering where their order is (hint: when you buy from an online company, 2-day or next-day shipping only starts when it actually gets out of the damned warehouse).

09:29 * ConfusionRift puts it on his head. "Misa be awake... misa tailor shoes for yousa need!" 9_6

09:30 <Schism> Fewer shipping chats, actually.  People aren't great, but many understand that UPS doesn't deliver on weekends.

09:31 <Schism> TPTB also haven't blocked Project Gutenberg or the Wandering Inn, so I have things to read for now.

09:33 <Schism> I haven't and won't test Fimfiction, because the sheer quantity of X-rated material there would probably cause the firewall to collapse, screaming, into a black hole.

09:34 <Schism> Still gotta poke the ops team about sending myself some PDFs, though.

09:35 <ConfusionRift> :P

09:37 <Schism> I am sad, admittedly.  The US Project Gutenberg is blocked for Reasons, possibly because there's a lot of public domain smut.  I have to make do with the Canadian version.

09:38 <Schism> It has a couple Raymond Chandler novels, though, so I'm good for a few weeks.

09:39 <Schism> (Also, stuff like It Can't Happen Here, which I had to put down because I was experiencing deja vu tremors.)

10:52 * Schism returns, and throws part of his vape into a small coffee cup of vinegar. The vinegar turns brownish. "That's a good sign," he remarks sarcastically.

10:53 <ConfusionRift> Huh... (has no idea)

10:53 <Schism> Just built up crud.

10:53 <Schism> Not exactly the sort of thing you want to be breathing.

10:53 <ConfusionRift> I don't use that stuff. I got asthma, so anything that goes to my lungs might just floor me.

10:55 <Schism> Short 'n' sweet explanation, I'm gonna be trying to quit smoking again.

10:57 <DashedRainbows> Sigh, even my dreams reminds me of how alone I am

11:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1747 [ http://tinyurl.com/yh6qxz99 ]

11:03 * Schism hugs DashedRainbows, offers a chicken sandwich with extra mayo.

11:04 <Schism> You know, it occurs to me that if the group responsible for this vape stuff is trying to create a superbug by having as many people as possible inhale from unclean vaporizers, they're doing a really good job of branding.

11:05 <Ali> Vaping should've never been legalized

11:05 * DashedRainbows noms

11:05 <Ali> They should've known this problem was going to happen

11:06 <DashedRainbows> Eh, a lot worse things are legal

11:07 <Schism> DashedRainbows, like smoking, for example.

11:07 <DashedRainbows> Or drinking

11:09 <Schism> For a while, this vape did help me cut off the smoking thing.  So that's a benefit.

11:09 * ConfusionRift shrugs. Doesn't do any of it.

11:09 <Starlight_Glimmer> > legalized

11:09 <ConfusionRift> Hey, if it helps.

11:09 <Starlight_Glimmer> Like it was illegal at some point

11:09 <Schism> But now I'm back off the wagon, so I'm trying to leap back on.  Yup.

11:10 <Schism> One central concern with vaping is that it comes in a variety of delicious flavours, like this cranberry-apple.

11:10 <DashedRainbows> I would gladly vape cannabis if it'd help

11:11 <Schism> Not that making it illegal will help at this point.  The genie's out of the bottle.

11:11 <Starlight_Glimmer> People will always find new ways to hurt themselves. Personally I think vaping is the lesser evil. The injuries linked to vaping nearly all have been in connection with unlicensed fluids.

11:11 <Schism> Mmm.  Unregulated fluids like that are a huge concern.

11:11 <Starlight_Glimmer> I'm in favor or applying age limits and restrictions on marketing/ads

11:12 <Starlight_Glimmer> You should not be advertising stuff like that towards teens.

11:12 <Schism> Can we also stop paying the tobacco industry to stop putting out their 'smoking is uncool, after all, look just how many cool people are doing it' ads?

11:12 <Schism> Here in Canada, at least they print every pack of cigarettes with gruesome medical imagery.

11:12 <Starlight_Glimmer> But to be fair it's not like the food industry is much better in this respect

11:13 <Starlight_Glimmer> They do that around here too Schism

11:13 <Starlight_Glimmer> But again I somewhat doubt how effective that is

11:13 <DashedRainbows> I agree with the marketing thing but not an age restriction

11:13 <Schism> Every time you light up a cigarette, you get to glance at a man having a tracheastomy.

11:14 <Schism> Eh, it's probably not THAT effective, but every bit helps.

11:14 <Starlight_Glimmer> DashedRainbows: Sorry to say this but kids make awful decisions

11:14 <DashedRainbows> Of course

11:14 <Starlight_Glimmer> I'm for less regulation where possible, but I don't fancy the future where vaping is trendy

11:14 <Starlight_Glimmer> And let's face it: That's why most people started smoking

11:15 <Schism> Mmm.  Well, there are 0-nicotine vape juices.  I'm okay with that, but it's still... ha.  A gateway.

11:15 <Starlight_Glimmer> There's little objective reason to smoke

11:15 <Schism> Starlight_Glimmer, GATEWAY DRUGS!  ... it must be the 90s again, that's the only explanation.

11:15 <Starlight_Glimmer> Most people's body reject it at first contact

11:15 <Schism> Ever seen a minor take their first gulp of hard liquor?

11:15 <Starlight_Glimmer> I don't believe in things like gateway drugs either

11:16 <Schism> Nah, neither do I.  It's societal pressure, nothing more.

11:16 <DashedRainbows> I don't understand the appeal of stimulants

11:16 <Starlight_Glimmer> Schism: I don't drink beer, because I don't like the taste of pure beer

11:16 <Schism> "Well, you just haven't found the right beer yet," I won't say.  Cider?

11:17 <Starlight_Glimmer> I drink shandy and sure cider

11:17 <Schism> But my point is, folks become inured to it.

11:17 <DashedRainbows> Gateway drugs is a terrible theory after all I've never used any of those

11:17 <Starlight_Glimmer> But the question is: Why do I sometimes still drink beer when in company despite not really liking it?

11:17 <Schism> Social pressures.  *nods*

11:18 <Starlight_Glimmer> Even I who thinks of myself as someone who's affected very little by peer pressure sometimes fall victim to it

11:19 <Schism> We mostly do tend to have inflated opinions of ourselves.  We as a species fall into either Dunning-Kruger or the Imposter Syndrome.

11:19 * Lumindia lays on GlimGlam

11:19 * Lumindia brushes

11:19 <Starlight_Glimmer> The amount of beer I drink and the intervals at which I do are so little and few and far between that I'm probably not going to be addicted to beer at some point

11:19 <Schism> If only we could all be like the Great Serpent of Ronka, instead.

11:19 <Lumindia> Scree!

11:19 * Lumindia wiggle

11:19 <Schism> It doesn't think.  It just screes.  And wiggles.

11:20 <Starlight_Glimmer> With young people in their social circles and smoking/vaping that might be different though

11:20 <Starlight_Glimmer> Hence I think they require a bit more protection in that vulnerable time

11:20 <Starlight_Glimmer> I'm not a fan of age restrictions either

11:21 <Schism> It's 19 up here, for both cigarettes and alcohol.

11:21 <Starlight_Glimmer> Like I never had any issues getting games for example that were way above my age limit

11:21 <Lumindia> most people don't really give a heck

11:21 <DashedRainbows> You seem to think people only vape nicotine

11:21 <Lumindia> at least when it comes to games

11:21 <Schism> I admit, it's not perfect by any stretch of the imagination.  And there's nothing like a tantalizingly close temptation to get people to reach for the apple.

11:22 <Starlight_Glimmer> Drinks with low alcohol amounts (beer, whine, ...) are 16 and above here

11:22 <Starlight_Glimmer> I don't think that's all that unreasonable

11:22 <Starlight_Glimmer> DashedRainbows: It doesn't matter what you vape

11:22 <Schism> "Only adults do this!" says every government advert ever, so of course teens, who want so desperately to be adults faster, will go for them.

11:22 <Starlight_Glimmer> Ingesting stuff into your lounges that doesn't belong there isn't healthy

11:23 <Starlight_Glimmer> Nicotine is what makes is addictive

11:23 <Schism> Sinuses, too.

11:23 <Starlight_Glimmer> So sure vaping things without nicotine is better in that sense

11:23 <Starlight_Glimmer> But it doesn't solve the issue that you're still inhaling stuff you shouldn't in that dose

11:25 <Starlight_Glimmer> We have no idea what the consequences of vaping aromatized fluids are going to be

11:25 <Starlight_Glimmer> And if the industry is anywhere near as successful with their campaigns as they were with smoking we won't know for decades

11:26 <Schism> Honestly, I think we're seeing what it is - the medical issue known simply as 'popcorn lung'.

11:26 <DashedRainbows> I don't really care anymore. Either way my preference is illegal here so I have to resort to worse things

11:26 <Schism> That right there is the biggest issue, yes.

11:26 <Starlight_Glimmer> If you're smoking now my personal risk assessment would probably be in favor of vaping instead of smoking

11:27 <Starlight_Glimmer> That doesn't mean though you should start vaping if you're not smoking right now

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11:28 <Starlight_Glimmer> Unlike in the U.S. smoking is much more acceptable around here still

11:28 <DashedRainbows> Eh, oral ingestion is slow and uncertain

11:28 <Schism> One aspect of vaping which helps people quit: there is the feeling that if you don't /finish/ your cigarette, then you're throwing away money.  Hence, you feel compelled to do so.  With a vape, you can take one or two puffs, say "Welp, I'm done." and just put it away.

11:28 <Starlight_Glimmer> People smoking in their cars with kids, in public places and in restaurants etc. is much more acceptable here than in other places

11:29 <Starlight_Glimmer> Despite laws of course that impose restrictions

11:29 <Starlight_Glimmer> But like anybody cares

11:29 <Schism> Public places and restaurants almost all have it illegal at this point.  But still, I see.

11:29 <Starlight_Glimmer> I remember when anti-smoke legislation became a thing and bar owners told the world they'd go bankrupt

11:30 <Starlight_Glimmer> Of course they didn't

11:30 <Schism> It is always the prerogative of businessowners to tell the world that the slightest change will cause ruination.

11:30 <Schism> I'm sorry, /successful/ business owners.

11:30 <Starlight_Glimmer> But still despite laws making it illegal there is still smoking outside of designated areas in bars and restaurants. Public places like bus stops, the train station etc. being the worst.

11:32 <Schism> I was outside the other day.  Big sign telling people, 'littering is an offense, it can get you fired.  Oh, and fined up to $3000.'  No fewer than four ashtrays in a 3 meter radius.  Ground still has a bunch of cigarette butts.

11:32 * Starlight_Glimmer lights Lumindia's tail on fire, inhales the smoke: "Sweet ponies!"

11:32 <Lumindia> ajiwefgojawejiofjio!

11:32 * Lumindia bursts into flame, lights the channel on fire

11:33 <ConfusionRift> Huh. This happened...

11:33 <Starlight_Glimmer> See I kinda always wanted to see the world burn!

11:33 * Starlight_Glimmer snuggles Lumindia

11:33 * ConfusionRift slowly fades out. 0_0;

11:33 * Lumindia sets Glimglam on fire as well

11:33 <Lumindia> yOu dId tHiS tO mE!

11:33 <ConfusionRift> "Fire? What fire? I saw nuthin'!"

11:34 * DashedRainbows sits on ConfusionRift and whimpers

11:34 * ConfusionRift patpats DashedRainbows.

11:34 * Schism provides ConfusionRift wif a chikkin sammich, with extra horseradish.

11:37 <ConfusionRift> That sounds real good about now.

11:37 * Lumindia munches on a bowl of cereal

11:38 <Lumindia> Froot Loops

11:45 * DashedRainbows bashes head against the wall repeatedly

11:45 <Starlight_Glimmer> It's cute how you call that cereal

11:46 <Starlight_Glimmer> DashedRainbows: Unless you're in a padded cell I'd strictly advice against that

11:46 <Starlight_Glimmer> See the head contains - depending on the person involved - more or less valuable things.

11:48 <DashedRainbows> How about a pillow then given it's 5am for me

11:50 <Starlight_Glimmer> considering your thick head I'm not sure a pillow is sufficient.

11:50 <Starlight_Glimmer> But if you bang your head on a pillow placed on a mattress that should be fine

11:52 <DashedRainbows> Sleep hardly helps when even your subconscious knows you're a loser

11:57 <Starlight_Glimmer> Not sure if your subconscious has feeling that elaborate. Brighten up, buttercup! Things won't get better if you stick your head into the ground.

12:01 <Lumindia> but it's nice and warm in the ground

12:01 <Lumindia> it's cold out

12:01 * Lumindia pulls GlimGlam into the ground with him, snuggles for warmth

12:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: The Top 10 Pony Videos of October 2019 [ http://tinyurl.com/ydto4l3n ]

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12:26 <DashedRainbows> I guess I should go pass out or something

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14:38 <Cepheid> Hey, guess who woke up, is sore all over, and has a fever!

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15:21 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/reiwasedaibot/status/1193289888042369025?s=19

15:34 <Starlight_Glimmer> I attached a kitchen timer to the radiator next to me

15:35 <Starlight_Glimmer> It fell down, the magnet still being attached to the radiator

15:35 <Starlight_Glimmer> Turns out the glue is heat sensitive 6_9

16:00 <Cepheid> Many glues tend to be, yes.

16:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Starlight Music Remix: John Kenza - Love (loophoof Remix) [Future Bass] [ http://tinyurl.com/yzttxx8y ]

16:05 <Lumindia> GlimGlam!

16:05 * Lumindia hughug!

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16:48 <lunanightwindphone> Morning

17:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: One Second of Rarity from Every Episode of MLP [ http://tinyurl.com/yjl2m3e4 ]

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17:07 <Finwe> Greetings, lunanightwindphone.

17:08 * Finwe hats on Starlight_Glimmer.

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17:17 * DashedRainbows lays down on Finwe

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17:48 * Cepheid takes some time to play TEW1 NG+, since mother inexplicably wants to watch him play TEW2.

18:01 <DashedRainbows> Afternoon, everypony

18:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: New Wizkids Molded Paintable Figures Now on Amazon [ http://tinyurl.com/yee8stg8 ]

18:19 <Cepheid> Hum..

18:19 <Cepheid> Do I want to max out run time so I can run for long periods?  Or do I want to max out a weapon...?  Or upgrade one of the NG+ weapons?

18:21 <Cepheid> Huh.  I can't upgrade the NG+ weapons.  Okay then.

18:21 <Cepheid> Upgrade pistol to max it is, then.

18:22 <Cepheid> Costed me 73,000 green gel o3o;

18:26 * Cepheid decides to murder everyone in this game this time around, best as he can.

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19:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Penny Wrights: Equestria Girls Follow Up: My Little Shop of Horrors [ http://tinyurl.com/yfl7hhkk ]

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19:10 *** ChanServ sets mode: +qo Ali Ali

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19:14 * DashedRainbows licks Ali

19:14 * Ali scoops up DashedRainbows and brushies her.

19:15 * DashedRainbows giggles and looks up at Ali

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19:31 * DashedRainbows boops Ali's horn a lot, hypothetically

19:31 * Ali whines at DashedRainbows not to do that.

19:31 <Ali> How would you like it if someone booped your wings endlessly

19:31 * Ali ruffles DashedRainbows mane

19:32 * DashedRainbows hugs the unicorn instead

19:44 * Ali allows hugs and brushies DashedRainbows

19:49 * DashedRainbows sits on Ali, giddy up!

19:58 * Ali gives DashedRainbows a pony ride

19:59 <DashedRainbows> yay!

20:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Artifacts of Equestria  [ http://tinyurl.com/yzbc94jc ]

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21:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: MLP Soundclowns: Likonan - My Little Bronyclown [ http://tinyurl.com/yec33y3h ]

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22:35 <Ali> Quite quiet in here today

22:39 <DashedRainbows> Indeed

22:41 * DashedRainbows licks Ali and wags her tail

22:41 * Ali hugs DashedRainbows and leans into

22:43 * DashedRainbows looks at the unicorn with wide eyes. Up?

22:43 * Ali just wants cuddles right now

22:44 * DashedRainbows hugs Ali then

22:45 * Filly_Nightmares meows

22:45 * Filly_Nightmares skrees and climbs onto Ali

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22:51 * Ali brushies Filly_Nightmares as well

23:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3156 [ http://tinyurl.com/ygnngfbd ]

23:24 <Starlight_Glimmer> Good night my little pony friends! https://derpibooru.org/1851874

23:25 <Ali> winghugs

23:26 <DashedRainbows> Neither of you have wings...

23:27 <Ali> Nope, I'm a unicorn

23:32 * DashedRainbows stands on her hind hooves and scoops up Ali

23:33 * Ali squeaks and leans into DashedRainbows

23:33 * DashedRainbows hugs the horsey

23:34 * Ali yays and nuzzles up close to DashedRainbows, winghugs are nice and warm

23:36 * DashedRainbows boops the little pony

23:38 * Schism flops into work. Provides Ali with a crown royal bag.

23:38 <Schism> Wait, that's not right.

23:39 * Ali doesn't drink Schism

23:39 <Schism> Yus, but they make the very best dice bags.  o3o

23:40 * Schism also provides Ali with a delicious grilled cheese, chicken and tomato sandwich on focaccia with basil and rosemary.

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23:51 * DashedRainbows brushies the Ali too

23:51 * Ali mewls

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23:53 * DashedRainbows holds her out. She is indeed a pony.

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23:54 <lunanightwindphone> Hey

23:54 <DashedRainbows> Yo yo yo

23:55 * Ali flops over lunanightwindphone

23:57 <lunanightwindphone> Sup ali

23:57 <Ali> Not much to be honest

23:58 <lunanightwindphone> Fun

23:59 * Ali nibbles on a lunanightwindphone ear

23:59 * DashedRainbows licks lunanightwindphone and apology brushies her

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