00:00 <Cepheid> I am craving chocolate covered malt balls.
00:02 <Schism> Those do sound pretty good, but I've been chewing on a bag of M&Ms all day, so I crave meat.
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00:09 <Schism> Turns out I was wrong about something earlier. I am in fact going to be working on Black Friday through Cyber Monday. For ten hours a day. And getting paid a rather copious amount of overtime.
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00:12 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, if I had to work on those days as a programmer for a store, I'd get paid nothing, because I don't deserve overtime as a programmer. I just sit in a chair and type all day at a computer. :D
00:12 <Schism> Funny thing, that's exactly what I do! (I'm not on phone support, I'm on chat support.)
00:13 <Schism> But yeah, salaried workers get the short end of the stick in way too many ways.
00:18 <Schism> The higher-ups have basically declared an 'All Hands On Deck' for those four days. I can't say I disagree, though some folks are still trying to demur.
00:26 * Schism hums at the chicken, tests it with a meat thermometer, puts it back in for 5 minutes.
00:31 <Ali> I get paid nothing for any holiday!
00:31 <PrincessRainbows> I don't get paid at all!
00:32 <Ali> Neither do !
00:32 <Ali> Do I!
00:32 <Ali> Other than once a month and its really not enough
00:32 <PrincessRainbows> So little...
00:33 <Ali> I've been scraping rock bottom for like 4-5 months cause of my safenet mindset
00:33 <Ali> I will not go below that ammount and if I do I have to turbo sac almost everything to make up for it.
00:35 <Schism> C'mon, chicken. Get up to 165F, please.
00:36 * Ali also shakes Schism, she got her 6th Harmonious Archon on Friday... MAKE IT STOP!!
00:36 <Cepheid> So, flamethrower dude... I wonder if he's invincible.
00:36 * Cepheid saves, reloads sniper rifle.
00:38 * Ali thinks once Cepheid gets more done with their projects and self studies they can hit up Factorio again. The biggest problem for the unicorn is she gets overwheilmed by all the new stuff in IR and it just makes things so much harder for her to understand.
00:38 <Schism> Ali: How in the blazes are you getting that thing in EVERY DRAFT?
00:38 <Schism> It's useful, but not that many of them.
00:39 <Ali> I DON'T KNOW Schism
00:39 <Ali> I've pulled Oko, Scions, Scions, Archon, Archon in the last 5
00:39 <Schism> Maybe it's because you watch so much MLP.
00:41 * Schism finally pulls the chicken out and nods. "That's better. I'd rather this be overcooked than undercooked; I'm not a fan of salmonella."
00:41 <Cepheid> Not... actually sure if that was worth it. o3o; I got a lot of stuff, and an item I can certainly use later.
00:42 <Cepheid> 5000 green gel and a flamethrower canister which can be used with another flamethrower canister to repair, presumably, a flamethrower.
00:42 <Cepheid> Cost me the remainder of my shotgun shells and a few of my crossbow bolts though.
00:42 * Schism takes a big bite, then huffs. "HOT! Too... HOT!" </RickMoranis>
00:43 <Cepheid> On the other hand, he's pretty much permanently dead so he'll never bother me again in this area.
00:43 <Cepheid> And I got a bunch of stuff from the room he was guarding.
00:44 <Cepheid> As for the bolts, I just remade them all. Shotgun shells... eehh, I'll find more later, probably. In fact, I should go rooting around this area as the game handwaved away the fact that it respawned a bunch of items. Also, this section suddenly expanded to twice it's original size, so there's more to explore.
00:44 <Schism> This is helpful. Though one wonders if other rooms he might have guarded in the future will be locked off.
00:44 <Cepheid> Except there's multiples of him, from what I can tell.
00:44 <Schism> Oh, not bad then.
00:44 <Cepheid> I'm of the impression that I wasn't supposed to kill one just yet. o3o;
00:45 <Schism> o3o Now to go back and kill all the others.
00:45 * Cepheid upgrades the damage to his handgun.
00:45 <Cepheid> Amazingly, I prefer this over all other weapons.
00:45 * PrincessRainbows brushies the Ali
00:45 <Schism> This is starting to sound very Bioshock-like.
00:45 * Ali snugs PrincessRainbows
00:45 <Cepheid> Ammo's easy to make for it, cheap, too.
00:46 <Schism> I remember using the 6-shooter all throughout Bioshock, too.
00:46 * PrincessRainbows sits on Ali. Go horsey go!
00:46 <Cepheid> Heh.
00:46 <Cepheid> I use other weapons, shotgun, sniper, and the like, but..
00:46 <Cepheid> Handgun always suits me.
00:46 <Cepheid> I should abuse the shooting range right now.
00:46 <Schism> I might be thinking of Infinite. The handgun though...
00:47 <Cepheid> There's a shooting gallery in this game. If you achieve milestone scores in it, you get items. I completed Gallery Mode, but there's an unlimited mode too.
00:47 <Cepheid> I need...
00:48 <Cepheid> A score of 100,000 to get all the items it can give me.
00:48 * Cepheid takes out handgun. o3o;
00:48 * Ali sends biters after Cepheid to make it more challenging
00:49 <Schism> This is of course a perennial comic about how it's easy to grow complacent. http://www.threepanelsoul.com/comic/on-daddy-take-downs
00:49 <Cepheid> Ah, okay, so it's more like one of those "match N boxes" games, like Puzzle Quest, etc.
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00:50 <Schism> Cepheid: And if you regularly beat it with 120,000 points or more, Irisu will walk across your screen when you close the game and bludgeon her friend to death with a baguette.
00:50 <Cepheid> 51,400 on my first try.
00:51 <Cepheid> Eh, I'll do this later. Rewards aren't that spectacular.
00:52 <Schism> (Not that Irisu, of course. A different bunnygirl.)
00:52 <Cepheid> Yes, I am aware.
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00:58 <Cepheid> Geeze, exploring this area has been a godsend.
00:58 <Cepheid> Bunch of useful stuff just laying around.
00:59 <Cepheid> Just found a shotgun pouch which increases the max shotgun shells I can carry.
01:00 <Cepheid> Gah, another flamethrower dude.
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01:01 <Schism> All that useful stuff, of course there's another epic mook floating around.
01:02 <Cepheid> I'm not supposed to be here, I don't think. I'm finding items for weapons I don't have. o3o;
01:02 <Cepheid> Plus that last slide I obtained was slide 10 out of 11. I skipped 2 before it.
01:03 <ADragonDreaming> qu'elle jeux?
01:04 <Cepheid> Hmm?
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01:05 <Schism> The Evil Within.
01:06 <Cepheid> Okay, I'm definitely not meant to be here yet. Wall of fire blocking my way to extraneous area added onto this region. I'm gonna leave and advance the story.
01:06 <Schism> Adra: Cepheid est non grok Francois.
01:08 <Cepheid> Oh look, another shotgun ammo pouch.
01:08 <Cepheid> For all the shotgun shells I DON'T HAVE.
01:09 <Schism> I wonder what weapon they expect you to use against those flamethrower dudes.
01:09 <Cepheid> Least it's the last one, so now I can just hoard all the ammo.
01:09 <Cepheid> Probably frost bolt + anything else.
01:09 <Cepheid> Lots of places to freeze enemies in the area. LN2 canisters everywhere.
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01:10 <Schism> If frozen, that just means you can get right up to them and unload a shotgun blast into their chest.
01:11 <Cepheid> It won't outright kill them, no.
01:11 <Cepheid> But yes, freezing them and shooting them does more damage.
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01:20 <Cepheid> Oh gods, what did I get myself trapped into this time?
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01:22 * PrincessRainbows rests her muzzle on Ali and sighs
01:23 <Cepheid> Dangit, this ghostly girl again..
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01:31 <Cepheid> Don't see how I'm meant to get past this..
01:34 <Cepheid> ... How'd I miss that?
01:41 <Cepheid> Hum, new gun.
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01:52 <Cepheid> Wow, this is so much of a trap I don't even know what to say. I feel insulted that this is even an attempt to trap me.
01:53 <Schism> You are, of course, going to save your game and trigger it.
01:54 <Schism> Who knows, maybe there's a nice reward after all the fireworks have ended.
02:00 <Cepheid> It was a boss.
02:00 <Cepheid> Which I murdered easily due to my FULLY UPGRADED HANDGUN.
02:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1981 [ http://tinyurl.com/td6vtoz ]
02:03 <Cepheid> Nice... hinting at something there game. I considered the idea based on the ending of the first game, but there was nothing to support it, except that ending.
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02:53 <Cepheid> I appear to be nearing the end of the game.
02:54 <Cepheid> I am gonna need a new horror game to play after this. Maybe I sould do the Resident Evil Revelations series.
02:54 <Schism> How long's it been since you played the original RE4?
02:54 <Cepheid> Quite a while, in fact.
02:54 <Schism> Might be worth revisiting, then.
02:54 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.
02:55 <Schism> And then there's the Fatal Frame series.
02:55 <Cepheid> That said, right now? First, I need to kill one of those flamethrower dudes. I got the broken flamethrower, but I'm missing one canister, and I'll be damned if I'm going into endgame without it.
02:55 <Schism> And... did you ever play Rule of Rose?
02:57 <Cepheid> Can't say I have.
02:58 <Schism> I've heard it's one of the best psychological survival horror games of that time, despite not receiving as much interest as Silent Hill and Resident Evil.
02:58 <ADragonDreaming> it was certainly odd
02:58 <ADragonDreaming> rather a different setting/setup than most anything else.
02:58 <Schism> Something new, then. o3o
02:59 <Cepheid> Okay, so the flamethrower dudes have an OHKO attack.
02:59 <Schism> You sound more resigned than upset. Like, "of course they do."
02:59 <Cepheid> Yeah.
03:00 <Cepheid> It was expected.
03:00 <Cepheid> It was more about whether I'd actually see it or not.
03:00 <Schism> Oh, yeah. You've gotta see every attack at least once.
03:02 <Schism> Are you feeling alright, ADragonDreaming, by the way?
03:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Brony Anthem Music: dBPony - The Journey Never Ends [Rock] [ http://tinyurl.com/whdz6ck ]
03:03 <Cepheid> And with that, I got the flamethrower.
03:03 <Cepheid> Just need to replenish all my handgun ammo.
03:08 <Schism> Realizing that I'm weirdly empathic over text is strange. Like being able to discern that peoples' scents are off based on their voices over the phone.
03:10 <PinkieShy> Jackbox "A perfect gift for a college graduate would be..." Me: "A small loan of a million doll hairs"
03:10 <Cepheid> As for the ammo problem, it's pretty much resolved by just traversing the area, murdering stuff and recollecting all the goodies the game spawned.
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03:10 <Schism> No, no, PinkieShy. That's a gift for a cool leg graduate.
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03:11 <Cepheid> ...
03:11 <Cepheid> Is that a DOOM Guy Figurine?
03:11 <Cepheid> It is.
03:11 <Schism> Probably?
03:16 <Cepheid> "You will bur-" *Interrupted by shotgun blast point-blank to the face.*
03:17 <Schism> Sickness must be p--
03:18 <Schism> *two level 80 adventurers smack him in the face with Dia and Xenoglossy*
03:20 <Cepheid> Heh.
03:21 <Cepheid> But yeah, I aggroed the final flamethrower guy of the area by mistake, so I just decided to unload into him. I lost him momentarily, so I run around the corner, he spots me, goes "YOU WILL BUR-" and I shot him in the face once, and he dies.
03:27 <Cepheid> I think this is the last save point. Which means I can pretty much go all-out, ammo-wise here.
03:27 <Schism> Huh. My brother gets to bring back some grilled shrimp linguine for me tomorrow, no questions. It's a family restaurant at which he's working, so occasionally the owners comp him like that.
03:30 <Schism> And I evidently get a free pair of shoes later on this month. Can't decide on the colour, but I can pull of a pair of pink sneakers.
03:30 <Schism> off*
03:33 <Schism> I've spent so long on chargen for various games, by now, that I can probably pull off a real life chargen.
03:36 <Cepheid> ... Heh.
03:37 <Cepheid> https://i.imgur.com/2FZXLmT.png The ultimate weapon.
03:40 <Schism> Of course. Does it require that you chant Klaatu Verada Nikto when you use it?
03:45 <Cepheid> So uh, instead of stealthing that... I uh... I killed everything via guns.
03:46 <Schism> Lost out on the Ghost achievement for that zone, Cepheid. B--.
03:47 <Cepheid> I lost out on it ages ago.
03:48 <Schism> Yah, but in DXHR you get a Ghost achievement for each particular mission/zone. Oh well, lots of folks killed, I guess I can bump that up to a B-.
03:50 <Cepheid> ... These old mechanics again.
03:59 <Cepheid> Right, *THIS* is likely the last save point.
04:07 <Cepheid> ... Oh this is *GETTING GOOD*
04:35 <Cepheid> ... Okay, I am 100% certain *THIS* is the final save point now.
04:35 <Cepheid> Take care, little kitty. You did well. You did good.
04:37 <Cepheid> ... Damnit, why am I getting emotional over a virtual cat?
04:37 <Cepheid> Is it because it's a black cat, and reminds me of Spitfire?
04:38 * PrincessRainbows curls up in a distant corner to sleep
04:39 <Ali> Man I hate Youtube's new layout
04:42 <Cepheid> ... Hi there, final boss.
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05:23 <Ali> Cepheid, you still around?
05:25 <Cepheid> Yep.
05:25 <Ali> You know what a Qt Qtwebengineprocess is in Task Manager?
05:26 <Cepheid> Web browser running inside a Qt application.
05:26 <Ali> Ok? So why is it eating up over 50% of my CPU memory?
05:26 <Ali> I'm like at 93% CPU usage right now
05:27 <Cepheid> No idea. You got any applications, like MMOs or something, that provide a web page view when logging in to them?
05:27 <Ali> I haven't played an MMO in years Cepheid
05:28 <Ali> I kinda want to know if I can end task them without mucking up the computer right now.
05:28 <Cepheid> You can.
05:41 * PrincessRainbows can't sleep, ugh
05:42 * Ali brushies the PrincessRainbows and gives her some warm milk, that should help
05:43 <PrincessRainbows> Maybe
05:47 * PrincessRainbows flops on the Ali and sads
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06:16 <Cepheid> ... Huh.
06:17 <Cepheid> There's an achievement for breaking the storyline in The Evil Within's second DLC.
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07:15 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
07:25 * Filly_Nightmares climbs onto ConfusionRift
07:27 <Hajnal> Hello.
07:31 <Tirek> Mornin'
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08:05 * Ali flops over ConfusionRift
08:05 * ConfusionRift patpats Ali. :P
08:06 <Ali> Ugh, finally won seven grindy games in Arena Draft X.x
08:14 * Ali noms on ConfusionRift ear cause he doesn't understand what the yay she's talking about.
08:15 <ConfusionRift> What? Of course I know what you're talking about and referring to! (No I don't) :P
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11:01 <Cepheid> One, I'm gassy. Two, my parent's cat is invading my personal bubble space, and has a tongue made of rough sandpaper. I am still awake because of both issues.
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11:33 * ConfusionRift patpats PrincessRainbows .
11:35 * PrincessRainbows raises her front hooves. Up?
11:36 * ConfusionRift grabs and pets PrincessRainbows. :P
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11:37 <PrincessRainbows> Whee!
11:39 <PrincessRainbows> ConfusionRift must be very strong to lift an alicorn
11:40 <ConfusionRift> Huh? Oh! Oh noooes! Too heavy for me to liiiift. Aaaaah... (coughs)
11:42 * PrincessRainbows turns into a small filly
11:43 * ConfusionRift says quiet like. "No worries." :P
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13:46 <Heartbreak> EW.
13:46 <Heartbreak> GrooSS!
13:47 * PrincessRainbows whimpers and pokes Heartbreak with a stick
13:48 <Heartbreak> I've told you not to do that. It's gross, weird, and -really- not pg-13...
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13:49 * Filly_Nightmares mewls
13:49 <Heartbreak> What, are you a cat?
13:49 * Filly_Nightmares purrs at Heartbreak
13:49 <PrincessRainbows> You and your dirty mind
13:50 <Heartbreak> You don't lick other ponies. Do I have to put hot sauce on my face?
13:50 * Filly_Nightmares eees at PrincessRainbows
13:51 * PrincessRainbows licks Heartbreak even more
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13:52 * Filly_Nightmares yawnskrees and curls up on and goes sleepies on
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13:52 * Sleeping_Nightmares purrs
13:52 * Heartbreak puts up a bitter compound that is used in keeping little ones from licking video game cartridges.
13:55 * PrincessRainbows whimpers more and chews on HB's hooves
14:03 * PrincessRainbows kicks at her collar and barks at Heartbreak
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14:37 <Starlight_Glimmer> Heartbreak: You realize people licked Switch cartridges on purpose because they're covered with that stuff, right?
14:39 <Heartbreak> Ew. Why?
14:39 <Heartbreak> No chewing on my hooves.
14:40 <Starlight_Glimmer> No, I'd rather put them in socks to be honest. See it's rather cold outside. ;)
15:00 <Heartbreak> Socks are stupid.
15:25 <Starlight_Glimmer> They're not! They look cute, keep them hooves warm.
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16:10 <ADragonDreaming> socks prevent chafing from full coverage footwear for those folks that don't walk on their toes all the time.
16:10 <ADragonDreaming> they also serve as insulation, preventing heat-loss.
16:11 <ADragonDreaming> this is less necessary if the epidermis has existing hair coverage.
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18:11 * PrincessRainbows licks her nose and looks at Ali
18:12 * Ali just needs warms, and big alicorn PrincessRainbows can warm so much
18:14 * PrincessRainbows wraps up Ali in her wings and wags her tail
18:14 * Ali nuzzles with PrincessRainbows and yawns heavily
18:15 <PrincessRainbows> Sleepy horsey
18:15 <Ali> And cold
18:18 * PrincessRainbows kicks at her ears and nods
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18:31 * PrincessRainbows licks Ali and scratches at her collar
18:35 * Ali has put socks on hooves, cause hoofsies were terribly cold
18:36 * PrincessRainbows likes socks
18:47 <PrincessRainbows> Ali is so cute now
18:47 * Ali isn't cute
18:48 <PrincessRainbows> Sure...
18:50 * Ali wiggles under PrincessRainbows's wing
18:52 * PrincessRainbows sits and noms on hay instead
19:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by FlareGun45: Editorial: Possible Stories for Season 10 [ http://tinyurl.com/r3vdqf3 ]
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20:25 <Ali> Ish quiet in here today
20:26 * PrincessRainbows barks. indeed
20:27 * Ali gives PrincessRainbows a treat
20:28 * PrincessRainbows yays. noms and wags her tail
20:41 * PrincessRainbows stands on her hind hooves and scratches at Ali for more
20:42 * Ali gives PrincessRainbows another, but no more, doesn't want maredoggie to get too spoiled
20:42 * PrincessRainbows yays again
20:50 * PrincessRainbows whimpers and chews on the unicorn's hooves instead
20:50 * Ali nuu's, PrincessRainbows is chewing on her socks
20:51 * PrincessRainbows whimpers more, is bad maredoggie
20:52 * Ali tells PrincessRainbows its ok and pats her on the head
20:53 * PrincessRainbows runs around. tis quiet
21:01 * PrincessRainbows sniffs the Ali and wiggles her rump playfully
21:14 * Ali snuggles PrincessRainbows
21:17 * PrincessRainbows licks the pretty pony and kicks at her collar
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21:27 <PrincessRainbows> how is the Ali horse today?
21:27 <Ali> I'm here PrincessRainbows
21:27 * Ali snuggles horsey
21:28 <PrincessRainbows> that's something
21:29 * PrincessRainbows fetches Ali some slippers
21:34 <Cepheid> Hum. *Loads up EO3. Starts murder once again to try and kill the eldritch nightmare final boss.*
21:37 <Ali> OH HI Cepheid
21:37 <Cepheid> Spent all this time writing a data extractor for NDS images, and GodMode9 has support for doing that built in.
21:39 <Cepheid> Hey Ali.
21:39 <Ali> I thought you were busy working on things
21:40 <Cepheid> Taking it easy today. Also, I woke up 2 hours ago.
21:40 <Ali> Comepletely understandable Cepheid
21:40 <Cepheid> Cat and gassiness kept me up last night so I had trouble sleeping. Fell asleep at 7 AM.
21:41 <Ali> Wish I had the cat issue
21:41 <Ali> Tia comes to me today like 5 times crying her head off
21:41 <Ali> I pet her, I brushed her, she has food
21:41 <Ali> I don't know what she's crying about.
21:42 <Cepheid> Let's see, where was I...? Ah. Right. Single crown, bottom floor. That means... I'm in the midst of dealing with the dragons and superbosses.
21:42 <Cepheid> Cat comes up to you and meows. It either wants your attention in the form of pets, or playtime.
21:43 <Cepheid> ... I cannot recall which dragon I've killed.
21:43 <Ali> I gave her pets
21:43 <Ali> But she kept coming back
21:45 <Cepheid> A cat can want more.
21:45 <Cepheid> Ah. Monster log helped me remember which dragons I've killed. It was the Storm King.
21:45 <Cepheid> Otherwise known in the earlier games as just "Dragon"
21:46 <Ali> Cepheid, sorry but Twilight snipped that kill
21:46 <Cepheid> Heh.
21:46 <Cepheid> In any case he is the easiest of the 3. Mostly because his status ailment is the easiest to deal with.
21:47 <Cepheid> You'd think paralysis is one of the deadlier conditions, and it is, but it doesn't take effect 100% of the time.
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21:48 <Cepheid> The others meanwhile have... Flame dragon has confusion. 100% effectiveness each turn. Causes afflicted characters to attack randomly. Hilarious when it happens to bosses though.
21:49 <Cepheid> Ice dragon, I forget off hand. I do recall stun being a big thing though. It stops a character from acting for that turn if they haven't acted. Doesn't linger though.
21:50 <Cepheid> Oh, right. It uses sleep.
21:51 <Cepheid> Sleep can be resisted and cured fortunately. Stun is harder to deal with. If the enemy is faster than you, it'll always be a problem if it hits. And it hits quite frequently with the ice dragon.
21:51 <Cepheid> And resisting stun is difficult, if not outright impossible.
21:52 <Cepheid> ... Or not.
21:52 <Cepheid> There is the stun seal. Stun Resist+++++
21:53 <Cepheid> At 25000 a unit though, that's 120000 for the party. And also takes up a slot for dealing with Sleep. How can that be countered...?
21:55 <Cepheid> Throw a character in the back row who can cure party-wide ailments. Double up on stun and sleep resist. Figure out boss pattern, cast restoration spell on required turns.
21:58 <Cepheid> As for the ice breath. Two approaches. Anti-cold. Dreamer puts a shield up each turn to reduce ice damage. Otherwise... There is Ice Prophecy. Description of the prophecy skills state "Prevent <element> attacks from an enemy and counter with your own <element>."
21:59 <Cepheid> Some nice synergy between Zodiac and Hoplite there.
22:00 <Cepheid> Use Prophecy skills to nullify elemental attacks at the cost of reduced damage output, use Hoplite Line Guard to reduce physical damage.
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22:04 <Cepheid> You know, I'm not much of a strategist when it comes to strategy games, or turn-based strategy, but turn-based RPGs?
22:08 <Cepheid> Hum.. yeah, that'd be the best way to handle the ice dragon. Line Guard + Ice Prophecy.
22:09 <Cepheid> Can technically also get away with a Hoplite subclassed as a Ninja, to gain access to using two skills a turn, to get Line Guard on both rows, decreasing damage even further for the entire party instead of just one row.
22:12 <Cepheid> That works apparently through a skill called Bunshin(In the context given, translates approximately to "Duplicate."), which duplicates the character at the cost of half their HP and TP, adding a sixth(!!) character to the party.
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22:16 <Cepheid> Debatable as to which pairing is better though. Ninja-Hoplite, or Hoplite-Ninja. The difference is in their class skills.
22:16 <Cepheid> Also their stats.
22:16 <Cepheid> Hoplite has higher VIT, by 50 points roughly, which decreases damage taken. Their class skill is Guardian, a passive skill which reduces damage they take. I am not sure how effective either is overall in defensive stuff.
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22:17 <Cepheid> I'd have to do some analysis to figure out the damage algorithm to figure out the effectiveness. And that's tricky to do. Can do it, though.
22:18 <Cepheid> Oh, right, and armor types. Hoplites wear heavy armor. Ninjas light armor.
22:18 *** Dranae is now known as Angie
22:19 <Cepheid> Er, clothing armor*
22:20 <Cepheid> Ironically, the hoplite in the party is not using heavy armor right now. Light armor. 109 defense vs the strongest cloth armor I can use for the ninja right now, which is the Abode, at 84 defense. Hmm. What do I need to kill for the Ninja's best armor?
22:21 <Cepheid> Please don't say the eldritch boss at the bottom.
22:21 <Cepheid> Dark Attire. +97 Defense, requires... Crimson Tail. Dropped by...
22:21 <Cepheid> ... Huh.
22:21 <Cepheid> Kirin. Needs to kill itself by Curse damage.
22:23 <Cepheid> Best armor for the hoplite is the Knight Armor, +133 DEF. Blue Bone, which is dropped by... Anemone. An enemy of my enemy's anenome enemy.
22:23 <Cepheid> *Gets shot*
22:24 <Cepheid> The anenome is my enemy's enemy anemone, who is an enemy anenome of my enemy, who is my enemy. *BLAM*
22:30 <Cepheid> Let's see, maximum defense I can get for a ninja right now is..
22:31 <Cepheid> At level 70, a ninja has 28 VIT. At level 99, 36. So over 29 levels, they gain 8 VIT. For an average of... 0.276 VIT per level. So an estimated... 30.76 VIT by level 80, assuming linear progression. Level 80 is the highest I can go right now.
22:32 <Cepheid> Assume floored, so 30 VIT.
22:34 <Cepheid> Best shield I have access to is 65 DEF, best armor I can obtain for the ninja is 97 DEF. Best weapon in raw attack is the Danda-chakra, which has two slots for forges. Best slot weapon is the Futsuno Mitama, at 6 slots. I have a VIT forge, so either +2 to VIT, or +6 to VIT..
22:34 <Cepheid> 194 or 198 DEF total, leaving a slot for an accessory.
22:35 * PrincessRainbows licks the Ali and rolls over
22:35 * Ali squeaks
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22:36 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, for the hoplite... 76 VIT at 80, + 133 DEF, + 65 DEF, + 2 or 4 VIT depending on weapon.. 276 DEF or 278 DEF.
22:37 <Cepheid> ... Which I think I have wrong.
22:37 <Cepheid> Since Dreamer's DEF is 400, despite not being equipped with top-tier gear.
22:38 <Cepheid> Hum, removing the Dampener armor changes his DEF by 205, despite giving 109.
22:38 <Cepheid> I wonder if that's the Guardian skill in effect.
22:40 <Cepheid> Hum.
22:40 <Cepheid> Brand new hoplite, VIT at 11, DEF is 11 as a result. Thus, 1 VIT = 1 DEF.
22:41 <Cepheid> That said, 11 + 109 = 120. But his DEF is increased to 143.
22:41 * PrincessRainbows plays with her Ali squeaky toy
22:41 <Cepheid> I apologize for all the talking, by the way.
22:41 <Ali> I know how it goes when you babble to air X.x
22:41 <Cepheid> Dampener armor has +3 Pierce..
22:42 <Cepheid> But that doesn't account for the discrepency.
22:43 <Cepheid> Freiturnier(Heavy Armor) is... +98 DEF, + 11 = 109. But it changes his DEF to 130. Hum.
22:43 <Cepheid> 119 DEF change. That's 21 extra DEF.
22:44 <Cepheid> That's a 21% difference.
22:44 <Cepheid> Next armor down is 89. 89 * 1.214285714 = 108.07. +11 = 119. Which is the final defensive value he's getting.
22:45 <Cepheid> Next down... 81. 81 * 98.36. +11 = 109.36, or 109. Which is what he gets.
22:46 <Cepheid> Seems to be a static 21.43% increase on all types of armor.
22:48 <Cepheid> Hey, I figured out some math! o3o
22:49 <Cepheid> Even more fun.
22:50 <Cepheid> The amount of increase either increases with level, or the Guardian skill provides a hell of a boost.
22:50 <Cepheid> At level 68, Dreamer gets +183 defense from a +98 defense item. That's an increase of nearly 87%.
22:51 * Cepheid goes to level newbie character by 1 level, then check see if the ratio changes.
22:53 <Cepheid> The multiplier increases. At level 2, it's 1.229
22:57 * Cepheid forgets his statistics, and doesn't remember how to determine a formula based on a set of values.
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23:02 * PrincessRainbows sniffs PinkieShy
23:02 <Cepheid> ... It doesn't look like there's a curve.
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23:05 <Cepheid> The percentage seems to be based on the VIT stat.
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23:11 <Cepheid> Let's restart the table. Gonna collect level, VIT, and defense after one piece of armor equipped. First 10 levels of the character(1 to 11 inclusive)
23:15 <Cepheid> I know I learned math, but I don't think this is what they intended for it to be used for.
23:16 <Cepheid> On the other hand, it does help me practice the math I do know.
23:20 * PrincessRainbows hugs Ali and stands on her hind hooves to beg
23:21 * Ali pat pats PrincessRainbows, no more treats from her.
23:22 <PrincessRainbows> :/
23:24 * PrincessRainbows whinnies and barks
23:28 <Schism> Weekend~
23:32 <Cepheid> There, 10 levels, stats collected.
23:32 <Cepheid> And... there's a near-linear growth.
23:32 <Cepheid> Hell.
23:32 <Cepheid> I say near-linear, because level 4 to 5 had no VIT increase. Meanwhile, every single level has increased DEF by 3, except for levels...
23:33 <Cepheid> 4 to 5, where it did not increase, and then 5 to 6, where it increased by 2, and then 9 to 10, where it increased by 2.
23:33 <Cepheid> So, the scaler is definitely associated with the VIT stat.
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23:36 <Cepheid> Using the best fit, the next level, VIT should not increase.
23:37 * PinkieShy hugs and squeaks at PrincessRainbows
23:38 <Cepheid> ... And I was right.
23:39 <Cepheid> And as expected, the defense did not increase.
23:39 <Cepheid> So it's exclusively associated with the VIT stat. The higher the VIT stat, the greater the boost of defense, it seems.
23:43 <Ali> And my internet is slogging again
23:44 * PrincessRainbows boops PinkieShy with her squeaky toy
23:50 * Cepheid throws Schism at various monsters of the Yggdrasil Labyrinth.
23:56 <Cepheid> Hum.
23:56 <Cepheid> 15 levels collected. *Puts it through Calc to determine best fit among other functions*
23:57 <Schism> Bleh. Tired. So tired.
23:58 <Schism> And my brother is on a cleaning tear.
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