00:00 <Cepheid> Maximum byte size for a single entry is 11 bytes. It can't be larger than that.
00:00 <Cepheid> Since the data file is greater than 64KiB, that means that the offsets *HAVE* to be 4 bytes. Not sure about filesizes.
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00:02 <Cepheid> The average filesize is ~3000 bytes(22MiB / 7648 files). So it's possible for filesize to be 2 bytes.
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00:04 <Cepheid> Even divided by 4, it's still too large to address the data in chunks of 4 bytes, so it doesn't work by word size.
00:04 <Cepheid> That said, the binary file size is exactly divisible by 4.
00:11 * Cepheid thinks, analyzes, stares at hexadecimal numbers.
00:13 * Cepheid puts on his Schisms.
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00:19 <Cepheid> ... There's a file near the end of the binary file that lists all the "i_res" files. These are "result" textures. Near the end of the NDX file is a folder called "TexTable" with a bunch of files labeled <etc>.ttd. One of them is called "Result.ttd"
00:19 <Cepheid> So I found where the Result.ttd file is.
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00:26 <Cepheid> 96 entries in the file, separated by nulls..
00:26 <Cepheid> In hex, that's 60..
00:30 <Cepheid> These files start with the number 200 in ASCII(That is, bytes 32, 30, 30, or '2', '0', '0'), then is followed by a null zero(hex/decimal 0), then the name of the file without the extension.
00:30 <Cepheid> Then are followed by a bunch of unknown data.
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00:36 * Cepheid hmms.
00:39 <Cepheid> There'd have to be references to the individual files..
00:40 <Cepheid> You know, the size of this game's program code is pretty impressive.
00:40 <Schism> The Etrian Odyssey series have always been remarkably well programmed.
00:40 <Cepheid> The ARM7 code is 153.0KiB, while the ARM9 code is 578.9KiB
00:41 <Cepheid> Anyhow, interestingly, in the data files, there's no references to other files. Not surprised, as the TTD files are likely indices to save space in the ASM code. There's a metric ton of art files.
00:42 <Cepheid> That said, the good news is, I know where a bunch of files are, now.
00:43 <Cepheid> I can extract the file locations in the binary file, and locate them in the IDX file, hopefully.
00:45 <Dranae> Me: 'I have a headache the size of a truck'
00:46 <Dranae> Mom, in all caps 'Do your laundry now!'
00:47 <Cepheid> Got a hit on a file location divided by 4.
00:48 <Cepheid> ...
00:48 <Cepheid> The probability of three hits in a row, of exacting numbers, is low.
00:48 <Cepheid> Especially as they are the ONLY HITS.
00:49 <Cepheid> Size of the first file I located in 4-byte words is 629 in hex.
00:51 <Cepheid> ...
00:51 <Cepheid> Aaahahahahahaaa!
00:51 <Schism> That sounds like the Mad Scientist's Laugh #4: the laugh of delight at realization.
00:53 <Cepheid> While I haven't figured out how the names of the files are associated with the data, I have figured out the basic structure of location and size.
00:53 <Cepheid> Location in the file is specified as File Offset / 4. Meanwhile, file size is exact bytes.
00:53 <Cepheid> And it goes 4 bytes offset, ?? bytes file size.
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00:54 <Cepheid> And since file size is in bytes, I'm going to assume, that the file size is stored as 4 bytes.
00:54 <Cepheid> Otherwise, the largest file that can exist in the archive is 64KiB in size, which isn't a lot.
00:54 <Cepheid> It also seems to fit, since the following 2 bytes are zeroed.
00:55 <Cepheid> Now I just need to figure out how large the entry itself IS.
00:55 <Cepheid> It also seems weird, because the entry for the file I am looking at is in the middle of the index file. WHile the actual file is at the end of the archive and name index.
00:55 <Cepheid> So, we got the location of the file, and the size.
00:56 <Cepheid> I know what file I am looking at. It's Result.ttd, which is at offset in the name index...
00:57 <Cepheid> 26A65. Entries in this file are not padded to any multiple of 2, 4, or 8-byte boundaries, so the exact offset would be used, meaning 4 bytes.
00:58 <Cepheid> However, the data is stored in LSB, so if it's four bytes, I want to find 656A0200.. Which I do not see anywhere near the relevant data.
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01:25 <Cepheid> Hum, I'm unable to find the associative data.
01:25 <Cepheid> Well then, let's look for the next entry that's supposed to follow this tile.
01:25 <Cepheid> Er, file*
01:31 <Cepheid> Hmm.
01:31 <Cepheid> The relevant structures are nowhere near each other.
01:33 <Cepheid> Right, right. Maximum of 11 bytes per entry, given the size of the data. Four bytes are taken up by the location. Four bytes by the size, so that leaves 3 bytes left.
01:33 <Cepheid> Hm.
01:44 <Cepheid> Four prior bytes to the offset are all the same for the Result, Save, and Ship files, which sequentially follow one another.
01:46 <Cepheid> With exception to the last file, where the 4 bytes are different. Hmm.
01:52 * Cepheid puts his thinking Schism on.
01:53 * Schism hats on Cepheid, and buzzes.
01:58 <Cepheid> Filesize is 2 bytes.
01:58 <Cepheid> Maximum file size then is 64 kilobytes.
01:58 <Cepheid> So that leaves 5 possible bytes left for extraneous data.
02:01 <Cepheid> Be easier to verify if I could get a file that exceeds 65536 bytes.
02:01 <Cepheid> Largest I can find so far is 29,000 bytes.
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02:09 * Cepheid tries an idea.
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02:14 <Cepheid> Welp, no luck there.
02:21 <Cepheid> The offsets are apparently randomly placed throughout the index file. They don't directly offset-reference the name index. How the files are associated with names is beyond my understanding.
02:27 <Cepheid> This doesn't make sense...
02:30 <Cepheid> Assuming each entry is a 4-byte offset and 2-byte size in bytes, that means at most, we have 5 bytes remaining for each entry. But examining the data for four, sequential files, which isn't located anywhere near one another in the index file, show a complete lack of distinct identification information.
02:35 <Cepheid> For the four files, the five bytes following the size, are, in order: 0000740800, 0000610900, 0000740800, 0000740800. Prior to the offset: 00002F0800, 00002F0800, 00002F0800, 0000660900. As you can see, there are duplicate values, so none of these are any sort of identifier.
02:38 <Cepheid> And despite being sequential in the archive, the locations in the index file for each offset are, in order: 0x9C6C, 0x14596, 0x8C99, 0x9914. In the name index, their respective names are stored sequentially. In the archive, the data for the files are stored sequentially.
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02:39 <Cepheid> The following sizes for each offset is correct too, so I know they correspond with the relevant files.
02:49 <Cepheid> Hmm. What if I'm wrong in assuming it's a statically-sized structure..?
02:52 <DashedRainbows> Today has been pretty quiet
02:57 <Cepheid> Indeed.
02:58 <Hajnal> So it has.
02:59 <DashedRainbows> Some noise, low signal
03:11 <Stormspark> yet another unused port on the Gamecube has been made use of by the homebrew community, over a decade after the console was discontinued
03:11 <Stormspark> https://www.retrorgb.com/gamecube-serial-port-sd-adapter-swiss-updates.html
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03:22 <Cepheid> Right, so the relevant bytes I'm looking for are before the offset.
03:23 <Cepheid> There's 130 folders, and I searched for a specific sequence of bytes, 00660900. There's exactly 130 instances in the index file. This somehow indicates "end of folder."
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03:23 <Cepheid> Or at least, seems associated with the number of folders, anyways.
03:28 <Cepheid> IT'd help if I had a better hex editor to work with, to count the number of search results, etc.
03:40 <Cepheid> Hum, there we go. Yeah, 130 times that sequence is seen.
03:44 <Cepheid> Aaaand I discovered a pattern.
03:44 <Schism> It is definitely interesting to see someone discover new and relevant things, but I'm afraid I'm going to get some sleep now.
03:45 <Cepheid> 3 bytes, some sort of identification info. 4 bytes, offset. 4 bytes, size.
03:45 <Cepheid> This pattern repeats until 660900, then after that some header information, followed presumably by a sequence of these bytes.
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03:47 <Schism> My workplace prohibits me from bringing in any paper whatsoever, or any material which could thereby be used to remove information.
03:48 <Schism> In accordance, tomorrow, so that I can access my account, I shall take in a small needle that I might carve my login information upon my arm.
03:48 <Cepheid> Heh.
03:51 <Schism> Anyone else gets ahold of it, they deserve to.
03:51 <Schism> Next week, doing Weds-Thurs off.
03:52 <Schism> Following this, I shall have 2 days of weekend, 1 day of work, then two days of weekend.
03:53 <Schism> I would be tempted to take that day off, but I think I'd probably go mad.
03:53 <Schism> Anyway, 6 hours of sleep now. G'night.
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04:16 <DashedRainbows> Ali, Ali!
04:16 * Ali blehs a bit over DashedRainbows
04:17 * DashedRainbows wing hugs the unicorn. What's wrong?
04:20 * Ali doesn't like talking about things so yeah.
04:21 <DashedRainbows> Gotcha
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04:59 * Cepheid stretches.
05:03 * DashedRainbows brushies the Ali
05:03 * Ali leans into DashedRainbows
05:07 * DashedRainbows picks her up. I like this horsey
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06:40 <Cepheid> 3832 bytes.. *Continues to analyze* @o@;
06:41 * Ali can solve this problem
06:41 <Ali> START THE MUSIC
06:41 * Ali moonwalks over with a red and white afro and sends out Ludicolo and Ludicolo
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06:42 <Tirek> Oh boy
06:43 <Tirek> I haven't played that game. Is that the one where you start with espeon and umbreon?
06:43 <Ali> Close
06:43 <Ali> But the good battle music for him is in XD
06:44 <Tirek> Ah.
06:44 <Ali> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciEHtGpSviE
06:44 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
06:44 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Miror B Battle - PokeĢmon XD Gale of Darkness Music Extended [Music OST][Original Soundtrack]
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06:45 <Tirek> This is extremely 70s.
06:45 <Ali> The guy wears and afro Tirek
06:46 <Ali> Of course its gonna be 70's themed
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06:46 <Cepheid> Index data says the file should be 1385 bytes. Actual size is 3832. Hmm.
06:46 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
06:46 <Tirek> I know who he is, but he's the only character I know from this game.
06:46 <Tirek> Mornin'
06:46 <Cepheid> Hey Rifty.
06:46 * ConfusionRift waves.
06:47 <Tirek> On that note, the newest version of Pokerole is supposed to come out next month. Maybe it'll actually be a good game this time around.
06:47 <Tirek> I'd like to run a pokemans tabletop game sometime.
06:47 <Ali> Not even sure how that would work
06:48 <Cepheid> How goes it, Rifty?
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06:48 <Tirek> In a traditional game, the DM would play the role of your pokemon.
06:48 <ConfusionRift> Doing alright. Was playing Link's Awakening, and taking a bit of a break from that.
06:49 <Cepheid> Ah.
06:49 <Cepheid> I'm trying to figure out some data formats.
06:49 <Cepheid> I'm trying to decode EO3's data.
06:49 <ConfusionRift> Hmm?
06:49 <ConfusionRift> Ooooh.
06:49 <Cepheid> I got some of it decoded.
06:50 <Cepheid> There's 3 files for the game data. Target.bin, which appears to be an archive of all the data files glomped together. Target.idx, which seems to hold the offsets to all the files, but in some obtuse manner. And Target.ndx, which is the filename index.
06:50 <Cepheid> I've decoded the filename index, and can thus print out the directory structure of the archive file.
06:50 <Cepheid> Problem is, I can't correlate the data within the archive, with their paths and filenames.
06:51 <Cepheid> The .idx file is apparently responsible for that, but it's... a nightmare to comprehend.
06:51 <Cepheid> All I know is that each entry is comprised of a 4-byte offset, followed by either a 2, 3 or 4-byte size. I'm not sure, since I'm seeing weirdness.
06:52 <Cepheid> For example, I found the entry for a file, but it's size is reported as 1385 bytes, when the actual file size in the archive is 3832 bytes.
06:52 <Cepheid> And the 4th byte of the size, which has thus far been 0 for every other file, is non-zero.
06:56 <ConfusionRift> Hmmmm.
06:57 <Cepheid> Hmm, also some differences before the offset.
07:05 <ConfusionRift> "Come'ere, guys! Have something to show ya!" | ...okay? (sees a half-butted base, with machines exposed everywhere) | "This is my base! And I got an offer for you." | Sure- wait, what are those? (points at the tower of red matter explosives) | "Just my pile of bombs." | ...no. I know what you're up to. No. (leaves)
07:27 <Cepheid> Atlus, what're you trying to do with this format..?
07:30 * ConfusionRift shrugs.
07:31 <Cepheid> Every other file, you specify the byte size afterwards, and I've got samples of files that exceed 3,832 bytes, that don't use this unexplained encoding.
07:31 <Cepheid> The value you stored isn't some multiple of that number, either.
07:39 <Heartbreak> More screaming ponies.
07:40 <Cepheid> ... Ironically, the file in question, has it's own size stored 3 words into the start of the file. And it ends at another offset that exists in the index, when I use that size..
07:47 * ConfusionRift screams near Heartbreak.
07:49 <Heartbreak> Scream more near the pony-dog-creature that keeps licking me.
07:55 <Cepheid> This particular file deviates from the norm expected for it.
07:55 <Cepheid> Has the same headers of other files of the same type, but unlike those, it doesn't subtract 16 from it's filesize.
07:56 <Cepheid> I'm going to chalk that one up to programmer error.
07:56 <Cepheid> As further files of the same format go back to subtracting the size of the header.
08:06 <Cepheid> It wouldn't shock me if this was some arcane hash table or some weird setup like an N-ary tree.
08:07 <Cepheid> Whatever it is, it's truly arcane to start with.
08:08 <Cepheid> I know the number of files, I know the number of folders. I can even extract the names of the files and folders, and construct a tree diagram representing where they all are.
08:08 <Cepheid> What I can't figure out is how to connect those names to the actual data.
08:09 <Cepheid> In that regard, I know how to locate the file's entry in the index table, but the data is all over the place and has no apparent structure.
08:09 <Cepheid> Other than that the offsets stored are actually the offsets of the files in the archive, divided by 4.
08:10 <Cepheid> Why they did it that way? No clue.
08:14 <Cepheid> Hmm.
08:16 <Cepheid> Well, I just decoded the FBIN file format.
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08:36 <Cepheid> So I got the exact size of the first file in the archive, but guess what I can't locate in the index?
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08:56 <Cepheid> Right, I'ma continue this tomorrow. Or another day.
09:01 * Cepheid throws bits and bytes at Rifty.
09:01 * ConfusionRift noms on them. :P
09:02 <Schism> [ insufficient sleep, please restart ]
09:02 <Schism> I'll be fine. It's not like we have a new rare item yesterday. And another one today. Ahahahaha...
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09:10 * Cepheid watches Schism go insane.
09:11 <Schism> Surprisingly, yesterday wasn't bad at all. Managers even tried to call VTO, to which I assume a /few/ people responded.
09:13 <Schism> Came on the first half of my shift, though, to which the proper response is 'ahaha no ask someone else and get back to me'.
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09:28 * Ali flops over Schism
09:28 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, while you slept, I bashed my head against binary data.
09:29 <Schism> Also, I am impossibly hitting the target mark on the metrics not two weeks after getting to the floor, which left my manager scratching her head and wondering how.
09:31 <Schism> Metrics, compliance, customer surveys, if I keep this up I'll be getting a promotion soon.
09:32 <Schism> (Okay, /after/ the 3-month 'we can fire you for any reason' bit.)
09:33 <ConfusionRift> "You're too good for this place." [Game Over]
09:34 <Schism> Hah! I think the quality folks are glad to read notes 'tht dnt rd lik ths'.
09:35 <Schism> Especially among the latest batch of newbies. I have it on good authority that some of them use shorthand in customer chat.
09:36 <Cepheid> Tizzy, with all due respect, please stop sitting a foot away from my face and staring at me.
09:36 <Schism> You know her. She knows you. Like a predator, she is waiting for her chance to strike.
09:37 <Ali> Cepheid, its better than her being a hoof away with her butt towards your face
09:37 <Schism> Bring an arm near her... [snarl] ...and she will seize the opportunity. </Attenborough>
09:37 <Ali> Foot*
09:37 <Ali> I must be tired cause that blurred to foot over here...
09:37 <Cepheid> She is laying down on my chest now. Inches from my face. Purring. Waiting for the right moment to bite me.
09:38 <Schism> Anyway, I'm thinking on what to send myself in the way of books today. I could throw the rest of the Dresden Files into my network drive. I've been greenlit by corporate on sending myself ebooks.
09:39 <Schism> I will neither confirm nor deny sending myself poni fics.
09:41 <Schism> Funny thing, though. Coworkers see you playing solitaire on a computer which doesn't have it installed: "Oooh. Send me the link." They see you reading a book, they give it a cursory glance and just walk away.
09:43 <Schism> I could probably stretch that line to the limit with regards to emulators and ROMs, but I think that I'm going to wait until our client's gimlet eye isn't so tightly focused on our performance.
09:44 * ConfusionRift plays TF4 while in class. 0_0;
09:44 <Schism> Yea, but you're not getting paid for it.
09:44 <ConfusionRift> I know I know.
09:46 <Cepheid> Some people don't like to read.
09:46 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, for myself, I'd bring programming textbooks.
09:48 <Schism> This works out to my advantage. Though that's also quite good; I'd like to read more mathematical suites, but the majority of sites are blocked by corporate fiat.
09:48 <Schism> They decided to go with a whitelist on the OpenDNS firewall.
09:49 <Schism> Okay, that's not entirely accurate. They went with a blacklist with a few gaps.
09:51 <Schism> And despite my annoyance with that, I do applaud them for that decision, because that's how it's SUPPOSED TO BE DONE, THANK YOU.
09:53 <Cepheid> Could you not, cat?
09:53 <Schism> You knew she was going to bite you at some point. Be happy that she's finally resolved the question.
09:54 <Cepheid> She hasn't bit me yet. She is just dead set on resting inches from my face.
09:55 <Schism> Oh. Right. Waiting to bite.
09:55 <ConfusionRift> "I shall suffocate him with my fur. The perfect crime!"
09:56 <Schism> Considering Cepheid, she might pull it off, too.
09:59 <Cepheid> Tizzy, please get off.
10:00 <Schism> It would be completely irresponsible for me to clog up IT's wonderful e-mail server with SNES ROMs and an emulator of the same.
10:01 <Schism> Nnnnnnno, they don't want any foreign programs, I can't persuade myself otherwise. Books it is.
10:02 <Schism> Safe, responsible, and occasionally possessed of wizards setting orphanages on fire.
10:02 <ConfusionRift> I'm surprised they even allow books.
10:04 <Schism> So long as said books don't contain any scripting or means to contact outside sites, they're sanitized, and they don't leave anything on the boxen -- and they're also worksafe -- they're alright.
10:04 <Schism> Physical books, not so much. Digital? Sure.
10:06 <Schism> I was a little bit concerned about that, but they did confirm that with me. So now I'm halfway tempted to create a digital library of Books I Own*, and share it with every other coworker.
10:07 <Schism> *mostly
10:07 * Cepheid slowly turns his head to the left. "..."
10:07 <Schism> Hi Spitfire.
10:08 <Cepheid> Tizzy.
10:09 <Schism> Ah, of course. Waiting for you to die so she can feast on your delicious corpse.
10:09 <ConfusionRift> Really? This plane goes full dive because the front is 0.6kg heavier than before?
10:09 <Cepheid> She does this when I try to get rid of her. She comes back. And keeps coming back.
10:10 <ConfusionRift> "T h e r e ' s n o e s c a p e ."
10:11 <Schism> Stop doing that, I'm getting Illusion of Gaia / Terranigma flashbacks.
10:11 <ConfusionRift> :P
10:12 <ConfusionRift> I get more Earthbound, but yeah. :P
10:12 <Schism> Eh. Earthbound still had better translators. :S
10:13 <Cepheid> I wandered off to brush my teeth again. When I left, she was sitting to the left of my pillows. I return. She is still there. I don't know why she is like this with me. This is why I think I have some special connection with cats.
10:13 <Schism> You do, but Tizzy's just being Tizzy.
10:13 <Cepheid> I am not the one who gives her treats all the freakin' time.
10:14 <Cepheid> That's my parents.
10:16 <Schism> Aye, but we're all meat monkeys, and you're also the one who opens the sealed canisters of food.
10:16 <Cepheid> If anything, I regularly remove her from my presence out of fear she will bite me. She bites me hard enough to draw blood, and the wounds tend to throb painfully for several hours. I am amazed she hasn't given me an infection from all the biting. I've heard of some horror stories.
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10:18 * Schism updates the phone on his mobile-ish device.
10:18 <Schism> Wait, that's wrong.
10:18 * Schism updates the TIME on his mobile-ish device.
10:19 <Schism> Every part of that sentence in the first bit was right, but the whole thing made no sense. A microcosm, there.
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10:21 * Schism considers. "What to make, what to make." He decides to put some chicken kiev in the oven, for preparation for lunch.
10:21 <Schism> Chicken kyev, rather.
10:22 <Schism> Kyiv*
10:23 <Schism> Or not. It's all been devoured. Fine, beef pot pies now, I'll get something later.
10:32 <Koopz> leveling crafters is such a joke now
10:32 <Koopz> i love it
10:32 <Schism> I certainly know levekits have had to be rebalanced (and mostly discarded).
10:33 <Koopz> spent the last week getting everything to 50
10:33 <Schism> Meanwhile, I'm still enjoying the market, as I picked up a fair bit of darksteel for a song and dance.
10:33 <Schism> Despite darksteel ore being something akin to 1150 on my server.
10:33 <Koopz> now i've got to do the class quests which take awfully long to retrieve all the materials for
10:34 <Schism> Similarly, I refreshed my stock of voidrake and althyk.
10:34 <Schism> 2k a pop? Yes please.
10:34 <Schism> Oh. Yeah. Up until SB, the class quests are a pain. Watch all the cutscenes for ALC, tho.
10:35 <Koopz> not entirely sure if i should consider leveling a bit more until i hit that one point where the class quest gives you that seemingly essential skill
10:35 <Schism> Sevarian is a ginormous [yay], but it's an old story retold and worth watching.
10:36 <Schism> Uh... /which/? You mean CUL37's one?
10:36 <Schism> Cuz that's not a thing anymore.
10:37 <Koopz> hmm... going through all the carpenter skills
10:37 <Koopz> lvl 65 class quest rewards a skill
10:37 <Koopz> manipulation
10:37 <Schism> Oh, the level 65. Okay.
10:37 <Schism> Though... Manip, or Manip II?
10:38 <Schism> Oh. That one IS class specific. Huh.
10:38 <Koopz> I
10:38 <Koopz> 5 durability per step
10:38 <Koopz> neat
10:38 <Schism> I've used that a few times, I'm just used to having level 80 crafters, sorry about my confusion.
10:38 * DashedRainbows sits in front of ConfusionRift and looks at him. Up?
10:39 * Schism raises DashedRainbows on a pillar. Also, provides earscritches.
10:40 <Koopz> i suppose i'll delay the class quests a bit further then
10:40 <Schism> Manip bugs me, because I tend to mainline [Waste Not II]. But if it's just once a synth, I can deal.
10:41 <Koopz> i honestly have no clue about crafting
10:41 <Schism> Eh, you'll figure it out.
10:41 <DashedRainbows> Yay!
10:41 <Koopz> all i've been doing so far was hitting Great Strides and the 32 CP quality increase skill
10:41 <Koopz> and hope for good conditions
10:42 <Schism> That's... one way to do it. And before level 50, I guess that works.
10:42 <Koopz> silly me didn't even use Inner Quiet
10:42 * Heartbreak noogies Schism.
10:42 <Schism> Once you figure out how to raise [Inner Quiet], that'll make things a lot easier for the higher-end projects.
10:42 * Schism flails, is prepping for work.
10:42 * Heartbreak puts a super crown on Koopz.
10:42 * DashedRainbows licks Heartbreak a lot
10:42 <Heartbreak> Did you look at me arts, Koopz?
10:43 * Schism does, however, provide HB with a smol lalafellen catgirl.
10:43 <Schism> ... (on the back.)
10:43 * Heartbreak screams at DashedRainbows!!
10:43 <Heartbreak> Random Goat Screaming!
10:44 <Koopz> am i a Super King Koopa now?
10:44 * DashedRainbows sits on Heartbreak
10:44 <Heartbreak> Nope. You are Bowsette.
10:45 <Koopz> i may've taken a look
10:45 <Heartbreak> Hey! Get off me! NOW!
10:45 * ConfusionRift pets DashedRainbows. :P
10:45 * Heartbreak gives DashedRainbowsto ConfusionRift!
10:46 * DashedRainbows is wags her tail and licks Heartbreak more
10:46 * Heartbreak pushes DashedRainbows away.
10:48 * DashedRainbows is bad pony. Whimpers
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10:52 * Heartbreak puts a blanket over DashedRainbowsh head.
10:52 <Koopz> it's been so long since i've read anything mlp related...
10:54 * DashedRainbows hides from Heartbreak under ConfusionRift. She's mean mare
10:55 <Heartbreak> Hey! I gave you a free blanket!
10:55 <Koopz> oh i only missed out on 18 chapters
10:56 <Heartbreak> Koopz: Read my story. Newest one had new chapters.
10:56 * Heartbreak noogies Koopz!!
10:56 * ConfusionRift ruffles DashedRainbows. Will protect from the meanie snooty. :P
10:56 <Koopz> i'm a busy turtle
10:57 <Koopz> and i'll get busier starting next year
10:58 * Heartbreak noogies even more!
10:59 <Koopz> i haven't even seen the show past season 6
10:59 <Koopz> no wait
10:59 <Koopz> did i even watch S6?
10:59 <DashedRainbows> I guess Heartbreak is cute though
10:59 <Koopz> yes, yes i did
10:59 <Heartbreak> D; I am not!
10:59 <Schism> HB is about as cute as Ali.
11:00 <Heartbreak> We are -not- cute!
11:00 <Schism> Of course not, dear. *condescending pat*
11:00 <ConfusionRift> Pffffft-heheheee,
11:00 * Heartbreak thwaps Schism!
11:00 <Koopz> yes, yes "stahp! I AM THE NIGHT!"
11:01 <DashedRainbows> So adorable
11:01 <Heartbreak> Don't you pat me!
11:01 * Koopz headpats Heartbreak
11:01 * Heartbreak threatens Koopz with shell jumps!
11:02 * Koopz extends spikes out of his shell
11:02 <Koopz> just try it
11:04 * DashedRainbows looks at Heartbreak with teary eyes and chews on hoof
11:04 <Heartbreak> That's what the super crown is for...
11:05 <ConfusionRift> How did I make a forklift more a hovercar, and the hover-vehicle more of a spinning circus of metallic death?
11:05 <Heartbreak> Gaaaah! Why do you keep chewing on my hooves?!
11:06 * Schism spinjumps on Koopz. And keeps spin-jumping. "Move faster, pokey!"
11:06 * ConfusionRift grabbies DashedRainbows, and pets. "Yeah, she grumpy." :P
11:06 <Lumindia_> Final judgement passed... Bask in the light and be cleansed!
11:06 * Lumindia_ casts Gavel on Schism
11:06 * Schism wipes and respawns.
11:06 <Lumindia_> back to living liquid for you
11:07 <Heartbreak> Schism: Which alternate universe version of me did you like?
11:07 * DashedRainbows yays and wags her tail
11:07 <Lumindia_> we got an explaination video of Alexander Ultimate
11:07 <Schism> Oh, Splinteredheart. I like wuffs.
11:08 <Koopz> so world first already happened?
11:08 <Lumindia_> it happened a week ago
11:08 <Koopz> o3o
11:08 <Lumindia_> it wasn't until tuesday that world second happened, four days after world first happened
11:08 * Surreal_Nightmares kneads Heartbreak
11:09 * Heartbreak pulls away from Surreal_Nightmares.
11:09 <Koopz> damn
11:09 * Schism pins a green campanula to Koopz, and a white one to Lumindia.
11:09 *** Surreal_Nightmares is now known as Filly_Nightmares
11:09 * Filly_Nightmares mewls at Heartbreak
11:09 * Schism also puts a pink campanula flower in HB's hear.
11:09 <Schism> hair.*
11:09 <Lumindia_> a what:?
11:09 * Heartbreak puts a blanket over Filly_Nightmares.
11:10 * Heartbreak shakes the flower out!
11:10 * Filly_Nightmares purrs and curls up around Heartbreak hoof
11:10 <Schism> Lumindia_, new housing flower. It turns into lovely little flower headpieces.
11:10 <Lumindia_> ah
11:10 * Lumindia_ eats the flower
11:10 <Lumindia_> yum
11:10 <Schism> If you have flowerpots in your home, you can grow them too! They're easy to produce.
11:10 <Schism> (and profitable)
11:11 <Koopz> that's all i needed to hear
11:11 <Koopz> looks like i'll have to rent a room in my guild house
11:11 * DashedRainbows boops ConfusionRift and barks
11:11 <Schism> Check the market before you do, Koopz. On Coeurl, purple ones are the easiest to sell, at 100k a pop. Other servers have different prices. And the requirement for making them into a hairpiece is just an ALC64, a bit of bear fat, and some dravanian spring water.
11:12 <Koopz> i saved up around 50 Zonureskin maps by now... silly static can't get together for running them all
11:12 <Cepheid> So, Schism, I spoiled the name of the final boss of Nexus by accident. It is an interesting name.
11:12 * ConfusionRift continues petting DashedRainbows, before crashing to sleep.
11:13 <ConfusionRift> Urgh... work in the evening. Black Friday week basically starts then.
11:14 <ConfusionRift> In any case, laters guys! (sighs) It's gonna suck.
11:14 <Koopz> o7
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11:14 <Heartbreak> Ugh. Black friday...
11:14 <Koopz> so glad i'm on the ordering side
11:15 * DashedRainbows sits on Heartbreak. Go horsey go?
11:16 <Heartbreak> Hey! No! Get off me!
11:16 <Schism> HB: Guess who's working for an online retailer during Black Friday.
11:17 * Schism holds up two hooves, then realizes he doesn't have thumbs.
11:17 <Schism> [asdfmovie 13]
11:18 <Cepheid> Jormungandr?
11:18 * DashedRainbows gets off and scratches at her collar with her hind hooves
11:19 * Heartbreak comforts Schism.
11:21 * DashedRainbows barks at and sniffs the pretty pony
11:23 * Cepheid noms on the roots of Yggdrasil. "Teach me your secreeeets!"
11:23 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1759 [ http://tinyurl.com/rkm57od ]
11:24 * Filly_Nightmares snugglies into Heartbreak warms
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11:29 <Cepheid> I like this series too much. I swear, one day, a tower full of monsters is going to appear on this planet, and at the top, people are going to find me sitting on a throne. With a grin to rival Alastor's evil grin.
11:35 <Cepheid> ... That actually seems like a good idea for a game. Though I'm not sure a self-insert would go over well.
11:36 <Schism> Eh, wouldn't be anywhere near the first time the developer was the final boss. After all, remember John Romero's head-onna-stick?
11:37 <Schism> Admittedly, that was for a far sillier production.
11:38 <Cepheid> Indeed.
11:39 *** DashedRainbows is now known as MaredoggieRainbows
11:41 <Cepheid> In any case I actually have a better story premise for a dungeon crawler. Just need to flesh it out. That, and at least design it with future games in mind.
11:42 * MaredoggieRainbows curls up on some newspaper to sleep
11:50 * Sleeping_Nightmares curls up on MaredoggieRainbows
11:50 * Sleeping_Nightmares mewls at Schism for warms
11:58 * Sleeping_Nightmares sleepies
12:01 * Schism wraps Surry up in blankets!
12:23 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by The Illustrious Q: My Little Pony Friendship is Magic #87 Revealed - Writer, Synopsis, and Artist [ http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/EquestriaDaily/~3/JQRUK_W6k-I/my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-87.html ]
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14:53 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Sculp for Upcoming Applejack Kotobukiya Figure Appears [ http://tinyurl.com/tq6pnho ]
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16:29 <LibrarianofHope> i think they took down the eqd site irc
16:29 <LibrarianofHope> couldnt get in from there as usual
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16:38 <LibrarianofHope> nailed it
16:40 <LibrarianofHope> testinggg
16:40 <LibrarianofHope> seems to work
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17:17 *** ChanServ sets mode: +qo Ali Ali
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17:32 * MaredoggieRainbows begs at Ali
17:32 * Ali snuggles with MaredoggieRainbows instead
17:32 <Ali> Cepheid, looks like .18 is on the release schedule down the line.
17:36 * MaredoggieRainbows is warm doggy
17:38 <Ali> And that's why I've been chunking along in Factorio this entire time
17:38 * Ali brushies MaredoggieRainbows and scritchies behind the ear.
17:41 * MaredoggieRainbows wags her tail and kicks her hind hooves
17:54 * MaredoggieRainbows sniffs the pretty little pony Ali
17:55 * Ali is none of that.
17:57 <MaredoggieRainbows> But Ali's a good horse
18:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Comics: Cold / I Await a Guardian #20 / Storms lullaby #52 / Moon Landing #8 [ http://tinyurl.com/v45x9y4 ]
18:41 * MaredoggieRainbows chews on LibrarianofHope
19:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend - Equestria Girls / Anthro MLP Art Gallery #151 [ http://tinyurl.com/uwss8ae ]
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19:09 * LibrarianofHope applies test on glomp on ali
19:12 * Ali poofs away from LibrarianofHope and then comes back moonwalking to LibrarianofHope with a big red and white afro on. "Time to START THE MUSIC"
19:15 * LibrarianofHope dances funky
19:18 <Ali> You know...
19:18 <LibrarianofHope> yes
19:18 <Ali> This makes me want to do something incredibly stupid in Sword and Shield
19:18 <LibrarianofHope> i know stuff
19:18 <LibrarianofHope> wut?
19:18 * Ali will need six Lotad
19:19 <MaredoggieRainbows> lol
19:19 <Ali> LibrarianofHope, do you know that reference thing I did?
19:20 <LibrarianofHope> not quite
19:20 <LibrarianofHope> not sure
19:20 <LibrarianofHope> what were you referencing ?
19:20 <Ali> Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness
19:21 <LibrarianofHope> the game one with the edgy guy?
19:21 <LibrarianofHope> gamecube
19:21 <Ali> Its the 2nd game
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19:21 <Ali> There's a trainer in it called Mirror B
19:22 <Ali> Who uses nothing but Ludicolo
19:23 <Ali> And the battle music in XD is so much better than the first one for him.
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19:27 <Hajnal> He was in Colosseum too. An amazing guy.
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19:30 <Ali> Yes he was, but the battle theme was more silly than serious
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19:44 <LibrarianofHope> .im taking a mental healt day today
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20:03 * MaredoggieRainbows kicks at her ears and gallops around
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20:11 <LibrarianofHope> now it works normal
20:11 <LibrarianofHope> the other client is annpying
20:12 * MaredoggieRainbows sits on LibrarianofHope
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21:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Open My Little Pony Art Compilation (All Skill Levels Welcome) #38 [ http://tinyurl.com/re456wu ]
21:12 <PinkieShy> Well made a decision on my YT channel
21:14 <PinkieShy> Giving it till December 5th, if nothing changes by then.. I'm going to take down my videos and start up mature content or just stream on twitch.
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21:15 <PinkieShy> If i do make YouTube videos.. I'm probably going to put a warning at the start of the videos to say something like "Hello this video is NOT for Kids, If you are a kid get out of here, This video may contain content that contains so and so"
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22:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: My Little Pony Speedpaint Compilation #116 [ http://tinyurl.com/t9uv3sk ]
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22:51 <Schism> "Those garments... that quiet confidence... those powerful neck muscles sculpted by a lifetime of nodding..."
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22:57 * Schism makes some chicken breasts, makes up some tartar sauce to go with.
23:01 * MaredoggieRainbows sniffs the chicken
23:01 * Schism notes it is just a regular kind of chicken breast. Provides some with a bit of bacon to the MaredoggieRainbows.
23:03 * MaredoggieRainbows yays and wags her tail
23:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Indecisive / Fishing / Clean / TWD 3:42 / ANL 3:46 / Pone Wars 9:25 / Arrival 178 / Hidden Dragon 2-3 / WmW 6:76 / Lost Sun 11 [ http://tinyurl.com/sf2do22 ]
23:06 <Schism> Heh, such a sluggish night it was. 20 minutes between chats. So they sent me home early.
23:11 * Schism also offers MaredoggieRainbows a slice of butterscotch cinnamon pie. Toriel's favourite. It doesn't even have any snails in it!
23:14 <Schism> It is unfortunate that in the easiest job I have ever, -ever- worked, half my class is already out on their tails.
23:18 <Cepheid> Phone tech support is stressful from what I understand. My dad tried it for a few months, and he developed temporary depression.
23:19 <Schism> It's not even all that much in the way of technical support. Like half the chats I get are 'hey, do you have [item that's not on the website / out of stock]'?
23:20 <Cepheid> Oh. Sales and questions. Slightly different.
23:21 <Schism> Yah. All inbound. Still website support, though.
23:24 <Cepheid> My sister wants me and my dad to put up something christmasy. I'm not big on the stuff. My sister meanwhile acts all 6-year-old about it. Greatest embarrassment of my life. Anyway...
23:25 <Schism> It's not December yet.
23:25 <Cepheid> Me and my dad have decided to do the literal Charlie Brown tree to appease my sister.
23:25 <Cepheid> Yes Schism. This is explicitly for the Day. Not the season.
23:26 <Schism> Ah, arighty.
23:26 <Cepheid> My sister absolutely must wake me up at 6 AM screaming Santa has come on the 25th. Even if I just fell asleep at 5 AM.
23:28 <Cepheid> She is demanding this of me and my dad as my mother is leaving to visit my sister on the 10th. Me and my dad will be alone for the season. We aren't big on decoration. It is a small part my mother, and insanely large part my sister.
23:28 * MaredoggieRainbows licks Schism and co
23:29 <Schism> Holidays aren't really my thing, though I do understand the appreciation thereof. Even so, that's a little much.
23:30 <Cepheid> Because me and my dad are more on family stuff over decoration, my sister is demanding we do at least a tree, and that we send pictures. So we are gonna try to recreate the Charlie Brown Christmas Tree.
23:30 * PinkieShy puts a hug booth in the room
23:31 <Cepheid> My sister, who is 38, mentally into a 6-year-old when it comes to certain holidays and events.
23:31 <Schism> The biggest aluminium tree you can find, Cephy Brown! Maybe painted pink!
23:32 <Cepheid> Heh. Got any idea where I could find a miniature functional grand piano?
23:33 * MaredoggieRainbows hugs PinkieShy
23:33 <Schism> Remember, folks, it's important that around this time of year, you don't let any of your melons or gourds stay in the fields for 14 days past the time they ripen.
23:33 <Schism> Cepheid: https://www.amazon.ca/Schoenhut-Black-Fancy-Grand-Piano/dp/B0006PJOW4
23:34 <Cepheid> Heh.
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23:35 <Schism> Were it black, this would probably be better. https://www.amazon.ca/Amy-Benton-Electronic-Instrument-Multifunction/dp/B0787ZYCSR/
23:36 <Schism> Cepheid: Gonna make a roast beast, too?
23:36 <Cepheid> I should get one of those cheap toy variants and try my best to do a rendition of Oh Christmas Tree on it, for recording a video of me hunched over with the piano, next to the sad tree.
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23:38 * Schism plonks a pink corsage on Lumindia's head.
23:38 * Lumindia falls over
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23:43 * MaredoggieRainbows sniffs all the horses
23:48 <Schism> Hmmm. Year 2 of "If Wishes Were Ponies" may come out soon. I look forward to that fic.
23:49 <Schism> (Poor, poor Professor Snape.)
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23:56 * Cepheid throws Schism at the tentacles on B25F.
23:56 <Cepheid> I still wonder what is on B26F. It isn't accessible in-game.
23:57 * Schism gets seen by a Forest Eye.
23:57 <Cepheid> Heh.
23:58 <Cepheid> Those only affect one type of FOE.
23:59 <Schism> Is this a Pirates of the Caribbean reference in EO3? Ghost ship around Tortuga.
23:59 <Cepheid> But yeah. Datamining shows a B26F map file. Until I can correlate the names with the data though, I won't know what it looks like.
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