Log archive of EquestriaDaily for Friday, 2019-11-29

00:00 * PinkieShy hands Ali a plate of fried turkey, spiral ham, mac and cheese, white rice long grain, sweet potato casserole and kings hawaiian dinner rolls with a tall glass of tea

00:00 * Ali noms on the mac and cheese cause she's not having that.

00:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3174 [ http://tinyurl.com/scfut9r ]

00:06 * Ali also noms PinkieShy ear

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00:32 * PrincessRainbows whimpers and flops over Ali

00:35 <Hajnal> Sounds like you've got a lot over there, PinkieShy

02:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1993 [ http://tinyurl.com/s4sotfm ]

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02:35 <Cepheid> You know you're sleeping too much when your parents start making "I thought you were dead!" jokes

02:37 <Schism> Frankly, my state is... not much better.

02:38 <Schism> I've 168 hours of straight work days coming up, at the end of which I'm going to sleep for 48 hours straight and then another 48 hours after a single day working.

02:39 <Cepheid> How many hours of down time do you get between shifts?

02:41 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/nedroid/status/1200140116653678592?s=19

02:43 <Schism> For the next week... we're looking at 9.5 hour shifts.  With an hour between...

02:43 <Schism> 12, maybe even 11 hour downtime.

02:44 <PinkieShy> I don't know why.. But once I dreamt google assistant had the power to teleport me any part of the world i wanted to..

02:47 <Cepheid> An hour between each 9.5 shift?  Or 12?

02:49 <Cepheid> Also Schism, I figured out the floor 26 mystery.

02:51 <Cepheid> Turns out Atlus packed both the north and south sea maps into a dungeon floor map.  Only map of it's kind with two maps in one.  And it is...  Floor 26.

02:56 <Cepheid> That said, still have work to do on those files.  Making progress though.  I can extract all the files from the archive now.  They just remain unnamed.  The only identifying traits are the magic numbers.

03:18 <Cepheid> Given that weird data at the top of the index table, and the fact that there is not enough space in the region to store name-linkage info for all 7647 or so files and 130 folders, the info is likely stored in the archive file itself.  Sanest method would be to use a hidden file in each folder that takes the spot of the first file in that folder, which contains the relevant data.

03:21 <Cepheid> Interestingly, I just thought of something.

03:32 <Cepheid> Header is 3005h bytes long, 12293 bytes.  First four bytes are an integer, 00000800h, 2048.  Subtract 4, that leaves us with 3001h bytes.  So one extra byte, somewhere.  Probably following the first four bytes, as part of a header.

03:32 <Cepheid> Now, the interesting details.

03:32 <Cepheid> 3000h bytes = 12288 bytes.  12288 is evenly divisible by 2048.

03:33 <Cepheid> 12288 / 2048 = 6.  Six bytes.  Also, 2048 is larger than the number of "segments" I'm seeing, which is 1805.

03:33 <Cepheid> ... This is not a tree, it's a hash table.

03:34 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Friendship is Magic Volume 19 Cover and Info Revealed  [ http://tinyurl.com/vac9cft ]

03:35 <Cepheid> Aaaand I'm correct about this, to some degree.  The sequence of bytes that follows that 5 byte header, they are two pairs of 3 bytes each in sequence.

03:37 <Cepheid> No... not a hash table.  Something else.

03:40 * Schism manages to stab himself in the hand with a meat thermometer.

03:41 <PrincessRainbows> Technically I guess

03:41 <Cepheid> Nice job, Schism.

03:41 <Schism> I am a meat popsicle.

03:42 <Cepheid> Heh.

03:43 <Schism> Joking aside, I'm going to probably wind up dealing with one last bit of cleaning, then have to deal with ... [yay].

03:44 <Cepheid> Heh.

03:46 <Cepheid> Let's see.  "Segment header" is... 7 bytes.  3 bytes, identifier, 1 byte, number of files, 4 bytes, offset, no size associated with it though.  That's determined through sorting offsets and some math.

03:47 <Cepheid> No, that's 8 bytes.

03:47 <Cepheid> What am I saying?

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03:52 <Schism> Kitchen's a little bit cleaner, now I'll be... alright.  Be able to get to work tomorrow.

03:52 <Schism> Have food there, and all.

03:54 <Hajnal> I just finished cleaning up here as well.

03:57 <Schism> We're ... kinda expecting some mandatory timeoffs tomorrow.  On the grounds that folks are going to be doing physical sales instead of online ones.

04:05 <Cepheid> Hmm.  First 3 bytes, identifier, perhaps?  Second 3 bytes seem to be split into a substructure.  Second tends to increase by 1, occasionally decreasing by 1, but then increasing by 1 again.  Hmm.

04:25 <Schism> So, for Stardew Valley...  Tirek, you seen there's now Iridium fish?

04:40 <Tirek> I haven't payed attention to Stardew yet, so, I don't know anything about the new update.

04:40 <Tirek> My friend circle wants to start a new playthrough soon, though.

04:43 <Schism> Oh, sorry.  I was thinking of someone else -- sorry.

04:44 <Tirek> I enjoy Stardew Valley, I just haven't felt like playing anything since I was prescribed antidepressants.

04:50 * Ali sits on Schism

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05:04 * PrincessRainbows sniffs the Ali horsey and boops her horn

05:05 * Ali squeaks at the PrincessRainbows

05:06 <PrincessRainbows> Good horsey

05:13 * PrincessRainbows hugs Ali like a plushie

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05:44 * Golden is now 90 pokemon away from completing his galar Pokedex

06:07 <Ali> I'm getting close to 300

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06:27 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony, and Happy Thanksgiving... or turkey meal day, whichever you prefer. :P

06:30 <Tirek> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOyyKKqsZKI

06:30 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

06:30 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about except turkey turkey makes a brand new turkey turkey makes a brand new turkey turkey

06:31 * ConfusionRift gyrates, then explodes.

06:36 * Ali licks ConfusionRift

06:36 * ConfusionRift patpats Ali. :P

06:37 * Golden poofs into confetti.

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07:42 <Cepheid> https://www.reddit.com/r/MadeMeSmile/comments/e37hgh/cat_who_lost_her_kittens_is_given_an_abandoned/?st=k3juafav&sh=122874b7

07:43 * Ali meows at Cepheid

07:47 * Cepheid noms food. Can't sleep, gonna be a long day.

07:47 <Ali> Sleep?  What's that?

07:47 <ConfusionRift> Feels that way too. 9_6

07:50 <Cepheid> Heh.

07:51 <Cepheid> Ah well, least it won't be spent banging my head against an unknown file format.  Gonna have to hold off on that until Tuesday.

07:51 <Cepheid> Though, I did figure out what floor 26 looked like.  o3o

07:52 <ConfusionRift> Nice.

07:52 <Cepheid> Floor 26 isn't any debug floor.

07:53 <Cepheid> It's a hack job by Atlus.

07:53 <Cepheid> And I don't even know why they did it.

07:53 <Cepheid> Basically, EO3 introduced the idea of exploring a vast world via a pair of maps, called sea maps.

07:54 <Cepheid> There's two of them, South and North.  I assumed these would be two separate files, and stored elsewhere.

07:54 <Cepheid> Turns out Atlus just crammed two map files into one file, named it B26F, and called it a day.

08:00 <ConfusionRift> I guess they figured it was a bad idea after all?

08:00 <Cepheid> Who knows?

08:01 <Cepheid> Now I want to find the growth chart files.

08:01 <ConfusionRift> Hmm, need to check the game to see.

08:01 <Cepheid> But that's not gonna be an easy find.

08:01 <Cepheid> I still can't link files to their names.  Every day, I come across new data it seems, but then I can't make heads or tails of it appropriately.

08:02 <Cepheid> For example, the index file, I figured out part of the layout of the data at the top.

08:03 <Cepheid> Sort of, anyways.

08:04 <ConfusionRift> Okay, it does use some 3d modeling, with 2d spriting. Yeah, maybe the map was a bit too much. Probably not the system limitations, but rather the length of it all. Then again, maybe have been a test area of sorts.

08:05 <Cepheid> That, or..

08:05 <Cepheid> It has to do with the northern edge.

08:05 <Cepheid> See, there's a transition at the northern edge of the southern map.

08:05 <Cepheid> This is because the game's mapping system on the bottom can only display a 35x30 grid.

08:06 <Cepheid> But if you just had a sudden "wall" at the northern edge of the southern map, it'd look awkward.

08:06 <Cepheid> So, they compacted the two maps into one to provide continuity.  You can see into the northern map from the southern map, and vice versa.

08:06 <Cepheid> But that transition is still there.

08:06 <ConfusionRift> Aaaah, like an effect placeholder?

08:07 <ConfusionRift> Well, not a placeholder, but a partially rendered asset to give a certain effect.

08:08 * ConfusionRift hasn't played the game, so he doesn't know.

08:10 <ConfusionRift> Unless you mean the actual map is displayed in full, but one can only move between hemispheres. The laziest way to keep the map displayed, even with a transition between points would be to make it all one map.

08:11 <ConfusionRift> Oh wait, I kinda skipped over the 35x30 part. Yeah, I kinda get it now.

08:12 <ConfusionRift> That some bopping music.

08:12 <ConfusionRift> But man, I already dread the combat.

08:13 <Cepheid> Heh.

08:15 <ConfusionRift> https://twitter.com/UltimaShadowX/status/1200098778650497029

08:16 <Cepheid> But yeah, I found out that the data at the top of that index file is actually a list of 6-byte sequences.  Unfortunately, the only thing I can make heads or tails of regarding it, is that the last 3 bytes of each sequence are generally monotonically increasing.

08:19 <ConfusionRift> ...I forgot the Gamecube had an error jingle. And it sounded like a someone died while playing the piano.

08:23 <ConfusionRift> Oh goodness!!! Yep, done with Twitter for now.

08:24 <Cepheid> Heh.

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08:42 <Cepheid> I'm gonna go try and get some sleep again. A couple of hours is better than nothing at all.

08:44 * ConfusionRift slowly nods.

08:45 <ConfusionRift> Gonna play some Starbound again.

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09:43 <Cepheid> I think I am in need of yet another round of antibiotics.

10:00 * Schism awakens.

10:00 <Schism> ConfusionRift, there was a Stardew Valley patch.  o3o

10:01 <ConfusionRift> Hmm?

10:02 <Schism> I forget if you actually own the game, but the latest patch fixes a great number of things, including being able to give NPCs wallpaper that looks to them like a Prismatic Shard.

10:02 <Schism> It also gives a new map layout, iridium-quality fish, and a whole host of other things.

10:03 <ConfusionRift> Eeerm, yeah. Don't really have the game. Sowwy.

10:04 <Schism> Alas, alack!  *raises hoof to brow*

10:04 <Cepheid> You're thinking of ADra.

10:12 <ConfusionRift> ...should I? It's sorta on special. Thing is, not a big fan of these Harvest Moon style games.

10:15 * Cepheid keels over and suffocates.

10:16 <Schism> Eh, if you're not really a fan of it, I'd almost suggest grabbing it all yarr-like before paying for it.

10:16 <Schism> See if it draws your attention enough to pay for.

10:16 <Schism> But that's just my idea.  I think there's a demo before going that route.

10:16 <Schism> Ah, there's no demo.

10:18 * Cepheid rises from the dead and noms cereal.

10:33 <Cepheid> https://i.redd.it/4b8ksskuql141.jpg

10:34 <Cepheid> https://v.redd.it/7lhpqcv0qk141

10:44 <Schism> Cepheid: https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2019/11/22

10:45 <Cepheid> Right.  Calling it now.  End of the weekend, I'll be bedbound.

10:45 <ConfusionRift> It's a cat-napper.

10:45 <Cepheid> Heh.

10:45 <Schism> Probably, but why in particular?

10:46 <Cepheid> Lungs aren't feeling too...  Lungy.  Raspiness in the throat, fluid down the windpipe, pains in my chest when I breathe.

10:47 <ConfusionRift> That... sounds very familiiiaaaar.

10:47 <ConfusionRift> That's either bedbound, or "might as well be bedbound".

10:48 <Schism> ... Pastis, you should have left it at 3 panels.  https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2019/11/09

10:48 <ConfusionRift> Okay, that liner. "Telephone books beat people." Mmmm. :P

10:48 <Schism> And Cepheid: Yeeeecgh.  Yes, that sounds like a likely bedridden situation.

10:49 <Cepheid> I have to go out though.  Got an appointment at 9, then I have to meet my colleagues.

10:49 * Cepheid reads the next comic linked.

10:50 * Cepheid ends up in a casket at a funeral. Cause of death. Combination punning/pneumonia.

10:50 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, that 4th panel made it a bit weaker. Still good.

10:50 <ConfusionRift> Thought it was punchitis. :P

10:51 <Schism> Punmonia.

10:52 <ConfusionRift> "Sir, I regret to inform you that you have... punchitis." | Punchit- (gets punched in the stomach) AAAH!!!

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10:59 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/puppsicle/status/1200149590067933184?s=19

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11:18 <ConfusionRift> Aw, how cute. | "They're parasites." | Aaaaaah... ... ...wait-

11:24 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1766 [ http://tinyurl.com/s5m7zsa ]

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11:53 <Cepheid> For my EO styled game, the first version of it is just gonna utilize basic shapes for enemies and texturing.  And use randomly-generated dungeons.

12:00 <ConfusionRift> Hehehe.

12:01 <ConfusionRift> dis test tetxures

12:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: This Year's Hallmark My Little Pony Ornament is Uhh... Interesting  [ http://tinyurl.com/uz9cymq ]

12:05 <Cepheid> Well I certainly can't draw. :P

12:05 <ConfusionRift> Can't draw for jack either.

12:06 <ConfusionRift> :P

12:07 <ConfusionRift> I keep going back and forth between "I should do what I can to get better" and "I'm way too broken to even bother".

12:08 <Cepheid> For me, I'm just straight up a code designer and programmer.

12:08 <ConfusionRift> Creative designs elude me nowadays.

12:12 <Cepheid> Heh.

12:13 <Cepheid> Guh.  Lungs.  Be more lungy and....  Lungy.

12:20 <Cepheid> Not sure if it's the weather, but the train feels off today.

12:22 <ConfusionRift> Might be the sickness. But then again, haven't heard much good from their trains, so it might be a bit of both.

12:24 <Cepheid> Possibly.  Also I'm standing instead of sitting as usual.  Train is packed for such an early time.

12:26 <Cepheid> One thing I absolutely do not get about the LRT setup...

12:26 <Cepheid> Why completely open-air stations?

12:27 <Cepheid> Why not at least an enclosed area, so that we aren't freezing in the middle of Winter?  Doesn't even need to be heat.  Just something to shield us from the wind, as thats what makes the cold so bad in the first place around here.

12:28 <ConfusionRift> Because... screw everyone.

12:30 <ConfusionRift> Just thought of something. With Steams new remote streaming, games like Crawl can be played online. Hmmm.

12:36 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.

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12:54 <Cepheid> Aaand my chest is hurting a lot now.

12:55 <ConfusionRift> The cold most likely. It's usually the case.

12:56 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift.

12:56 <Finwe> o7

12:57 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)

12:57 <Finwe> Mr Cepheid.

12:57 * Finwe doffs his hat.

13:06 <Cepheid> Finwe.

13:09 <Cepheid> Foood.

13:12 <Finwe> I just had some delicious brie salad.

13:17 <Cepheid> Ham.  Plain pancakes with no syrup.  Potatoes.  Then some strudels of some sort that I cant identify.  Topped off with juice.

13:19 <Finwe> Which meal is this supposed to be?

13:19 <Cepheid> More of a dinner for me.  I've been up since 6 PM last night.

13:21 <Cepheid> It's nearly 8:30 AM.

13:22 <Cepheid> Honestly I was hoping for some soup.  But soup at this hour doesn't exist on this campus.

13:23 <Cepheid> Hum...  Rifty, in a decade or two, please remind me to go rooting around social media to find someone who screwed up big time, morally, and hold them responsible for their actions, despite a few decades having gone by and the fact that they likely learned their lesson.

13:24 <ConfusionRift> Eeerm... okay? :P

13:24 <ConfusionRift> Hopefully I'll remember by then.

13:25 <Cepheid> Apparently some big sports person got caught uttering a racial slur.  10 years ago.  And people are trying to lynch him for it.

13:25 * ConfusionRift sighs.

13:26 <Cepheid> This is getting out of hand.  It's like we assume people aren't harassed for what they did in the past, so we must punish them now.  Ruin their lives.  Meanwhile...

13:27 <Finwe> Some canteens here serve breakfast, but it's usually bread and yoghurt, boiled eggs, fruit and possibly porridge.

13:28 <Cepheid> A person could have made all sorts of remarks about hearing impairments 10, 20, 30 years ago, and I wouldn't give a dang now.  Different generation, different times.  People grow up, learn they made mistakes, work to deal with them.  Also...

13:28 <Cepheid> I got better things to do than harass someone for a comment they made 10+ years ago that would be offensive to me.

13:29 <ConfusionRift> ^

13:29 <Cepheid> So in a decade or two, I'm just gonna be a snarky asshole and remind these precious little flowers of their own screwups.  >.>

13:31 <Cepheid> Anyhow, gonna grab a coffee then make my way over to the clinic for my appointment today.

13:31 <Cepheid> ... Oh.  Wait.  The appointment is at 1 PM.

13:31 <ConfusionRift> Okaday. Meanwhile, I just sit back and watch them cry as they burn themselves on their own doing.

13:32 <Cepheid> Heh.

13:34 <ConfusionRift> I honestly don't have the energy to be bugging in such things. Not to mention, it takes for them to explode into a million piece with their own devices to actually understand they screwed up. Sometimes, it takes blunt force trauma for someone to get the message. It's just a matter of letting them put their own hands in the fire.

13:36 <Cepheid> True.

13:36 <ConfusionRift> We're talking of the same generation that thought would be a great idea to use bleach to "lighten the color of one's eye", and that eating detergent are marvelous ideas.

13:37 <ConfusionRift> Redundantly redundant...

13:37 <ConfusionRift> You get the picture though. :P

13:38 <Cepheid> Yep.  Guh.  Chest.  Calm down already.

13:49 <Cepheid> Oh yeh.  Rifty.  Apparently my sister plays DnD now.

13:49 <ConfusionRift> 0_0

13:49 <Cepheid> Yeah it shocked me too.  Not much to do up in Nunavut, I guess.

13:50 <Cepheid> She is apparently playing a half-elf rogue.

13:51 <Cepheid> Weirder yet, as my mother is heading up there to visit for a month or two, my mother is currently learning to play it as well.

13:54 <Cepheid> Back in a bit.  Gonna head over to quiet place.

13:55 <ConfusionRift> Yeah... I... I should head to bed.

13:57 <ConfusionRift> That's just... my head's burning right now.

13:58 <ConfusionRift> See ya laters, and hope you have a good one.

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14:57 <Finwe> Mr LibrarianofHope.

14:57 * Finwe doffs his hat.

14:58 <LibrarianofHope> Mista finwe

14:58 * LibrarianofHope doffs funky

14:58 <LibrarianofHope> i woke up feeling dull, had some cake from yesterday got some energy back

15:18 <LibrarianofHope> yay coffe

15:18 <LibrarianofHope> now some exercise and i should be back to top form

15:18 <LibrarianofHope> so, how you been finwe?

15:19 <LibrarianofHope> finished the fancy math phd?

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15:56 * PrincessRainbows noses LibrarianofHope

16:15 <Finwe> LibrarianofHope: Today I've mostly been tired. x.x

16:15 * Finwe naps on PrincessRainbows.

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16:23 <ADragonHoarding> I am not availed of a desire to travail this day. I solely wish to strike the percussive instrument in a vigorous fashion throughout the diurnal period.

16:39 <LibrarianofHope> You want to stay home and play drums?

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16:40 <ADragonHoarding> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZclddLcOYYA

16:40 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

16:40 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about todd rundgren - bang on the drum all day

16:40 <LibrarianofHope> i was kinda right owo

16:40 * LibrarianofHope glomps ali

16:40 * Ali squeaks

16:41 <Finwe> ADragonHoarding: So the Terpsichorean muse intrigues you, daresay.

16:41 * Ali noms on a Finwe

16:41 * Finwe tastes of brie cheese salad.

16:41 * PrincessRainbows kicks at her collar and boops Ali's horn

16:42 * Ali acks

16:42 <Finwe> Whither comest thou, Ali, and wherefore ackest thou?

16:42 <Finwe> Prithee, speak thy mind.

16:43 <LibrarianofHope> Alas Ali, She be Cuteh

16:47 <ADragonHoarding> Finwe: you might say that, though never with the motivation to train it seriously.

16:49 <LibrarianofHope> drumming must be a good exercise.

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16:57 <Finwe> Umm, I certainly meant Euterpian muse, not Terpsichorean.

16:58 * Finwe derps.

16:58 <ADragonHoarding> Ah.

16:58 <ADragonHoarding> On a day such as this, most definitely.

16:59 <ADragonHoarding> 'tis the day after Thanksgiving. Given various family situations, 'tis a second Thanksgiving day at another family member's house. 'Twould be most favorable to not be at my place of employment.

17:00 <Finwe> Terpsichore is the muse of dance and chorus, while Euterpe is the muse of music and song, and, in later times, also epic poetry.

17:01 <ADragonHoarding> that, and "rejoicing well"

17:01 <ADragonHoarding> also known as "Giver of Delight"

17:01 <ADragonHoarding> I am, though, a fan of music and poetry, though again I've never been moved to train it seriously.

17:02 <ADragonHoarding> Which is likely just my own laziness.

17:02 <Finwe> Indeed, "eu" in Greek means good or well.

17:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Fanfiction Updates - November 29th  [ http://tinyurl.com/qqafq78 ]

17:04 <Finwe> Eudemon means a benevolent spirit.

17:05 <Finwe> Demon is just spirit in general.

17:07 <Finwe> And a malevolent spirit would, of course, be cacodemon.

17:09 * Ali noms on the Finwe tail

17:10 * Finwe tail-wiggles!

17:10 <Finwe> !plot

17:10 <DerpyBot> *wigglewiggle*

17:10 <Finwe> *wigglewiggle*

17:12 <Ali> Anyone heard from Shimmerbutt in awhile?

17:13 <ADragonHoarding> I only ever see them on here.

17:13 <Finwe> !seen SunsetShimmer

17:13 <DerpyBot> Finwe: The last time I saw SunsetShimmer was 2019-11-01 05:22:52 UTC

17:14 <Ali> Cause as you can see, they haven't been around for almost a month.

17:14 <Finwe> Two fortnights ago he seems to have enlightened us with his presence.

17:15 * PrincessRainbows flops over Ali and sads

17:15 * Ali brushies PrincessRainbows

17:16 <Finwe> Unofficial sources confirm that he was not shot on London Bridge today.

17:18 <Finwe> Or stabbed.

17:19 * Ali headtilts at Finwe, knows of the event but wut.

17:19 * PrincessRainbows is sad horse today

17:19 <Finwe> Just a wild guess based on the fact that he does not live in London.

17:21 <Finwe> Or does he? Hard to keep track of the places people consider as their fixed abode.

17:21 <Ali> Don't remember, I don't have many ways to talk to them other than here

17:21 <Ali> I mean I have their steam, but that's no good when that's just as dead as it is here.

17:22 <Finwe> @shimmerbutt on Instagram, I believe.

17:22 * Ali doesn't do that either :P

17:22 <Finwe> Neither do I.

17:23 <Finwe> What I'm going to do, though, is to go shop for some groceries and then head home for some sleep.

17:24 <Finwe> *go and shop

17:24 * Finwe curls up on Ali and dozes for a while.

17:25 <Finwe> Let the record show that two hours is not a good night's sleep.

17:26 <Cepheid> Nor is 0 hours.

17:26 <ADragonHoarding> you ain't sleep, Cepheid?

17:26 <Cepheid> Not since around 4:30 PM yesterday, no.

17:27 <Finwe> 0 and 2 are still better than 4 or 5.

17:27 <Cepheid> How so, Finwe?

17:27 <Finwe> Waking up amidst the REM phase just makes you extremely confused.

17:28 <Finwe> The exact times depend on you personal sleep cycle, of course.

17:28 <Cepheid> Mmm.

17:28 <Cepheid> As for why I am not yet in bed, before the dragon asks, it's because I have an appointment at 1 PM.

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17:51 <Cepheid> http://blackfridaydeathcount.com/ ... That top entry.

17:55 <Ali> What about it?

17:56 <Cepheid> It's the most recent reported death to that website, and it happened in the city I live in.  I thought Canada was better than that.

17:57 <PrincessRainbows> well, it did say this was targeted

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18:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Holidays Unwrapped: Part 3 'The Cider Louse Fools' Released on Youtube [ http://tinyurl.com/snp9sra ]

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19:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Random Pony Merch - Bags, and Brushes, and Ornaments!  [ http://tinyurl.com/vbe7jaq ]

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19:56 <Finwe> Good evening, my perissodactyls of minute stature.

19:56 <Finwe> Mlles Ali, PrincessRainbows and Surreal_Nightmares; Messrs Cepheid, Schism, ADragonHoarding, Starlight_Glimmer and LibrarianofHope.

19:56 * Finwe doffs his hat.

19:57 * Ali doffs over Finwe

19:57 * PrincessRainbows kicks at her ears so chews on Finwe's hat

19:58 * Finwe noms on a carrot.

19:59 <Finwe> Eh, what's up, doc?

20:06 * Starlight_Glimmer pulls Finwe and Ali into a hug

20:06 * Ali squeaks

20:06 <Starlight_Glimmer> Good evening, miniature equines.

20:09 * PrincessRainbows barks at the Starlight_Glimmer horsey

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20:10 <Lumindia> ohoh GlimGlam!

20:10 * Lumindia snug!

20:10 <Lumindia> :D

20:14 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: BABSCon Goes Over The Moon With Daniel Ingram & Black Friday Weekend Sale [ http://tinyurl.com/t44yoae ]

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21:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: My Little Pony "Cutie Cuffs" Appear  [ http://tinyurl.com/tbhypgj ]

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21:12 <Starlight_Glimmer> See I was thinking hand cuff, now I'm disappointed.

21:16 <LibrarianofHope> owo

21:16 <LibrarianofHope> im tired

21:16 <LibrarianofHope> dog bredding is hard

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22:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto:  Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3175 [ http://tinyurl.com/rllnlv6 ]

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23:14 <PrincessRainbows> I love stating an opinion and getting pure hate back

23:15 * Jackie pets PrincessRainbows

23:15 <LibrarianofHope> wut?

23:15 <LibrarianofHope> wit did i miss?

23:16 <LibrarianofHope> where did you get pure hate?

23:16 <PrincessRainbows> Nothing here

23:16 <LibrarianofHope> wasnt here?

23:18 <PrincessRainbows> I've only received one negative response here

23:19 <LibrarianofHope> owo

23:19 <LibrarianofHope> dont mind it too much, the angry arent worthy of much attention

23:23 <LibrarianofHope> way too much effort

23:23 <LibrarianofHope> we could use that energy to call ali cute, way more fun

23:26 <PrincessRainbows> Pretty pony

23:27 <Jackie> Has anyone here used Openstreetmap?

23:27 <LibrarianofHope> never heard of it

23:28 <LibrarianofHope> wut is it?

23:28 <PrincessRainbows> I have

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