01:00 <Finwe> Good evening, my perissodactyls of minute stature.
01:01 <Finwe> Mlles Ali, DashedRainbows and Sleeping_Nightmares; Messrs Cepheid, PinkieShy, Schism, and Starlight_Glimmer.
01:01 * Finwe doffs his hat.
01:02 <Finwe> !twilight time
01:02 <Finwe> D:
01:02 <Finwe> No DerpyBot!
01:02 <Ali> TWILIGHT TIME TWILIGHT TIME
01:02 * Ali bounces in front of Finwe
01:02 <Finwe> *bounces around o3o
01:03 * Finwe boops Ali with Doctor Who S12E09.
01:05 <Finwe> Cybermen, is it?
01:06 <Finwe> This must be linked to episode 8 in some way.
01:07 <Schism> Lumindia: That 'iris out' on the Great Serpent was fantastic and I love it and gaaaaah more Great Serpents!
01:14 <Schism> gahn. "NETFILE service will re-open on Monday, February 24, 2020." THANKS, government. Here I had all my papers squared away for doing so today.
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01:19 <PinkieShy> Only 2 more weeks until Vacation time..
01:19 <PinkieShy> It'll be nice to have a change for a few days..
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01:29 * luckyspirit noses Ali in greeting
01:29 * Ali squeaks
01:30 * luckyspirit appropriately touches Ali’s squeaker
01:30 * Ali squeaks louder
01:31 <luckyspirit> Hi Ali
01:31 * Ali wavies hoofsie
01:31 * luckyspirit wavies back in greeting
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01:53 <Schism> Clearly, Luckyspirit has been replaced by Heartbreak.
01:53 <Schism> Discuss.
01:53 <Ali> But that pony doesn't like me as much
01:54 <Schism> That's because you're too adorable.
01:54 * Ali is not adorable
01:54 <Schism> Jet~! Draw a picture of Ali with puffycheeks. The stars demand it.
01:55 <Ali> Who's Jet?
01:55 <Schism> Oh, he's HB's agent.
01:56 <Schism> Probably not -really- around. I'll check in at around 12 hours.
01:56 <Schism> An adorable unicorn with puffy cheeks...
01:56 * Ali is none of those
01:56 <Schism> I'm sure.
01:56 <Ali> Well other than unicorn
01:57 <Ali> Cat make up your *yay* mind
01:57 <Schism> Never, it's a cat.
01:57 <Schism> Are you... trying to tell a cat to stop doing something?
01:58 <Ali> Other than meowing for no reason and trying to steal my nail clippers or pocket knife
01:58 <Schism> Ohhh. That makes more sense. It's just trying to kill you. Nothing to be concerned about.
02:01 <Schism> That or it's trying to kill the shadows in your closet.
02:01 <Schism> Just a clip and they're declawed.
02:01 <Ali> Thanks for that extra vote of confidence there Schism
02:02 <Schism> Ali, I know cats. :P Though to be extra-confident, you should ping Cepheid.
02:03 <Ali> I'm sure he's asleep at this moment in time
02:03 <Schism> Also, I should note, the shadows are declawed with a clip. Cephy would never forgive me if I suggested clipping cats' claws.
02:03 <Cepheid> Most likely wants something from you. Either to follow the cast, food, or treasts.
02:03 <Ali> The food bowl is liike THREE FEET from me
02:03 <Cepheid> Clipping them is better than declawing, Schism.
02:03 <Ali> And yes, it has food in it
02:04 <Schism> Ali: Yes, and this matters how?
02:04 <Schism> Ali: Does it have a tiny little hole in the middle of it?
02:04 <Ali> Not yet, but yes I know cats hate seeing the bottom of the bowl and think its empty
02:05 <Schism> Juuust making sure. This is cat debugging.
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02:06 * Schism glares at Surry, and steals all the important parts for her sports car, replacing them with an ice cream soda!
02:07 <Schism> Ali: Then just cats.
02:08 <Schism> Question. How is it 9 o'clock? I slept for what I felt was 8 hours, and now it's still 21:00 on a Sunday. While I appreciate an extra-long weekend, I'm a little put off.
02:08 * Ali kinda wants to play something right now, but can't think of anything
02:09 *** Surreal_Nightmares is now known as Filly_Nightmares
02:09 * Filly_Nightmares skreees and uses Schism as a nest
02:10 * Schism supposes he's going to do this for now. Provides Filly_Nightmares wif lots of Great Serpents of Ronka, in silly hats!
02:12 * Filly_Nightmares gnaws gnaws gnaws on Schism ears and floofsplodes!
02:13 <Schism> Cepheid: I am disgusted that the federal government won't have tax returns until /tomorrow./ Tomorrow! What kind of *floofsplode* ... hold my files, I'll be back tomorrow.
03:17 <PinkieShy> pff... of course i have a beard 5'oclock shadow as they call it right now.. heh
03:21 <Schism> I'm pretty sure the 5 PM shadow has been a thing since Raymond Chandler.
03:21 <Schism> 5 O'Clock, that is.
03:30 <PinkieShy> My beard whenever I had it a year's worth of growth on it..
03:31 <PinkieShy> It was decently long, but redish brown :)
04:06 * PrincessRainbows finally wakes up. Has been a sleepy horse
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06:15 * PinkieShy nomfs a snack high in fiber in hopes to get rid of his hunger
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06:51 * PrincessRainbows hugs PinkieShy tightly
07:05 <PinkieShy> hey PrincessRainbows how are you :)
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07:26 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ConfusionRift
07:26 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
07:35 <PrincessRainbows> PinkieShy not too good honestly
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07:42 * PrincessRainbows hugs Jackie while whimpering
07:43 * Jackie scratches PrincessRainbows' mane
07:44 * PrincessRainbows makes sad little horse noises and clutches her plushie
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07:45 * Jackie picks up PrincessRainbows
07:45 <Jackie> Need someone to sleep with?
07:46 <PrincessRainbows> Some ponies are mean...
07:46 * Jackie cuddles PrincessRainbows
07:47 * PrincessRainbows grabs her pacifier and drifts off
07:50 <Jackie> Good pony
07:51 * Jackie looks over Filly_Nightmares
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08:29 * Schism flops in.
08:29 <Schism> Say, ConfusionRift, is $9 a jar for Parmesan-flavoured sawdust a thing where you are, or is it just me?
08:30 <ConfusionRift> Parmesan-flavored... (puts on glasses to make sure) ...sawdust.
08:30 <ConfusionRift> Am I reading that right?
08:30 <Schism> Yes. You know those green cans of Kraft 'parmesan' cheese?
08:31 <Schism> Cheese-equivalent food product, that is to say.
08:31 <Schism> Cheese-adjacent. Something approaching cheese from an oblique angle.
08:31 * Filly_Nightmares hungry
08:32 <ConfusionRift> You mean like cheese shavings as a form of sawdust... or actual sawdust?
08:32 * Schism meanwhile provides Filly_Nightmares wif lots of smoked gouda on rye, wif a variety of pickles!
08:32 <Schism> I mean cheese shavings, preserved in such a manner that in a thousand years, whatever civilization arises can sprinkle it on their pasta or pasta-equivalent and it will taste exactly the same.
08:33 * Schism coughs.
08:33 <ConfusionRift> Okay... just making sure. As for parmesan-flavored sawdust, no, it's not a thing.
08:34 <Schism> https://i5.walmartimages.ca/images/Enlarge/004/533/999999-68100004533.jpg - It totally is.
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08:34 <Schism> Oh, but you mean where you are. Okay.
08:34 * ConfusionRift sighs.
08:35 <ConfusionRift> In SAWDUST form.
08:35 * Schism expresses confusion. "Yes, I know. That's what I linked."
08:35 <ConfusionRift> I suppose grated falls on that aspect.
08:36 <ConfusionRift> You know what? Yes, yes it is. I'm sorry. A bit of confusion.
08:36 <Schism> But yeah, that variant is $9 up here. I picked up a small wedge of parmesan for the same price, and it'll last much longer.
08:36 <Schism> Parmegiano Reggiano, I should say.
08:38 * ConfusionRift looks through Walmart. "Okay, these prices are way off."
08:38 <Schism> Typically are.
08:39 <ConfusionRift> How is the 16oz bottle $6, and the 24oz $22?
08:40 <ConfusionRift> Okay, online grocery shopping is officially stupid.
08:40 <Schism> Because they don't sell as many of the 24oz bottles, I guess.
08:40 <ConfusionRift> Same brand, same finish, same cheese.
08:41 * Schism raises a hoof. "Different bottle."
08:41 <Schism> I joke. I don't know what's up with their pricing.
08:41 <Schism> Still, I swear, that is an exorbitant price for parmesan-flavoured sawdust in a can.
08:42 <ConfusionRift> In any case, yes, this product is a thing. As for a $9 jar... I believe there's a candidate for that.
08:43 <Schism> Let me emphasize that I could get a block of the real stuff for $9 too. I did, in fact.
08:47 <ConfusionRift> There's this small jar of homemade ultra fancy super extravagant shredded parmesan that was a higher price than the others. I don't think it was $9 though, but it was overall expensive. As mentioned, you could get the bottle of 16oz for $6, and (as you mentioned) you can get the block for about the same. This jar was like 6oz for $3.50, which isn't good overall value.
08:47 <Schism> Nnnno, that is not.
08:48 <Schism> There were also half-sized jars for $7 on the shelf, which I just looked at and shook my head.
08:48 * PrincessRainbows makes sleepless filly noises and hugs ConfusionRift tightly
08:48 <ConfusionRift> I don't care it's not 100% Parmesan, the cheap stuff works for me. :P
08:48 * ConfusionRift huggles PrincessRainbows back.
08:49 <Schism> Fiiine. :P I admit, I'm a snob.
08:49 * Schism offers the PrincessRainbows some summer sausage, and the ConfusionRift some red pepper hummus with lime pitas.
08:49 <ConfusionRift> It's all cooh, man.
08:50 <ConfusionRift> Mmmmm. That does sound good for them snackies.
08:50 * PrincessRainbows tears up and makes grabby hooves at ConfusionRift
08:50 <Schism> Yus.
08:50 * Schism lets out a siiiigh~, and offers ConfusionRift some summer sausage, and the PrincessRainbows some red pepper hummus with lime pitas.
08:50 * ConfusionRift grabbies PrincessRainbows and slowly rocks.
08:51 * ConfusionRift debates on what to do.
08:52 * PrincessRainbows just feels ugh these days
08:52 <ConfusionRift> Same here. I'm still staring at the cheeses on the Walmart page.
08:55 <Finwe> Good forenoon, everypony!
08:55 * PrincessRainbows nods and makes sleepy little horse noises before attempting to go sleepy again
08:56 <Finwe> Lt Cr ConfusionRift, Capt Koopz; Mr Schism, Miss PrincessRainbows.
08:56 <Finwe> o7
08:56 * ConfusionRift looks at someone over-pressurize watercooling loop.
08:57 <ConfusionRift> You know, maybe the option isn't a bad idea? Hmmm.
08:57 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)
08:58 * PrincessRainbows waves to Finwe
08:58 <Finwe> Good night, PrincessRainbows.
09:01 <PrincessRainbows> https://1drv.ms/u/s!Av3iBL1lPNRmiN8jNIxhDF0UdhBaiQ
09:04 <ConfusionRift> Somepony is sleepies. :P
09:06 <Schism> Erm. The flat-Earther who intended to build a steam powered rocket to launch him out of the stratosphere has perished in, unsurprisingly, a rocket crash. While on the one hand, okay, Darwin-award winner nonpareil, on the other, I think that the Earth got a little less bright today.
09:07 <Schism> At least he was literally willing to die for his cause.
09:13 * ConfusionRift shakes his head.
09:13 * Finwe shakes the rest of ConfusionRift.
09:13 <Schism> I suspect that Andy Weir is equally conflicted. :P
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09:14 <ConfusionRift> A steam-powered rocket. Of all things... steam. I just... it's just... my head huuuurts.
09:14 <Jackie_> How do you learn music theory without the hassle of reading a lot of music sheets?
09:14 <Schism> See, that's just what I'm talking about! A steam-powered rocket. We don't get that kind of mad science much anymore!
09:15 * Lumindia yawns, flops
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09:16 <ConfusionRift> They thought they were going full Nikola Tesla, when they were actually just going Dr. Frankenstein.
09:16 <Schism> Frankensteen.
09:16 <Schism> I mean, uh... yes, roughly.
09:16 <Lumindia> eye-gor
09:17 <Lumindia> 'w'
09:17 <ConfusionRift> 0_0
09:17 * Finwe hats on Lumindia.
09:17 * ConfusionRift boops Lumindia from the shadows.
09:18 * Lumindia removes Finwe from head. Is sick and coughing up a storm
09:18 <Schism> Despite the headache-inducing badness, I'm still impressed by the guy. He might have had a brain donated by one Abby Normal, but there's something to be said for a guy willing to do all that.
09:18 <Lumindia> doesn't lack for spirit
09:19 <Finwe> Schism: À propos, last year's Darwin Award definitely went to the right person.
09:19 <Finwe> https://darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin2019-04.html
09:19 * Schism considers options for breakfast. "Hmm. I could go for some cream peas on toast."
09:20 <Finwe> Not Cheesy Peas?
09:20 <ConfusionRift> here's the thing. There definitely was that spirit of things, and I bet it was mad enough to be a somewhat functional rocket... but no other parameters were considered. It's an odd spot between genius and just downright idiotic.
09:20 <Finwe> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMoHsvoPSSA&list=PLIiNqiEJoU3cnFUekCMU-sYc4ePpyMgyV
09:21 <Finwe> Or rather:
09:21 <Finwe> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT5kI3zJFmA
09:21 <Schism> ConfusionRift, here's the punchline. He'd already crashed several times.
09:21 <Finwe> Oh, DerpyBot still on holiday.
09:21 <Schism> Also, Finwe: N...o. Not that.
09:21 * Schism serves Finwe some chipped beef on toast. o3o;
09:22 * ConfusionRift finds the news report. "That... what in the... my head is hurtign agaaaaain!!!"
09:22 * Finwe noms on the aforementioned delicacy a bit.
09:22 <Finwe> Not lunchtiem yet, but it won't hurt to taste some.
09:22 <Schism> It is nomworthy.
09:23 <Schism> Peas on toast are best served with a good slab of extra butter, and some celery salt. o3o
09:23 <ConfusionRift> Wait... WAIT...
09:23 <Lumindia> beef soft tacos! beef soft tacos! beef soft tacos supreme
09:24 * Jackie_ wished has music friends
09:24 <Finwe> Schism: He had obviously made it to 570 metres and surviving the landing.
09:24 <ConfusionRift> This happened while they were filming a documentary.
09:25 <Finwe> "On the 22nd Feb 2020 "Mad" Mike Hughes died as a result of a malfunction of the craft's parachute system & subsequent crash-landing of his steam powered rocket. The parachute deployed & detached from the rocket upon lift off. The launch event was being filmed for the Science Channel television series Homemade Astronauts, in which Hughes was to star."
09:25 <Schism> It's kind of impressive how far the steampunk Icarus got.
09:25 <Schism> And alas...
09:26 <ConfusionRift> he launched high enough to be lost from view on ground. Unfortunately... well, we know the rest.
09:26 <Finwe> https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/flat-earther-mad-mike-hughes-rocket-launch-man-blasts-off-a8272761.html
09:26 <Finwe> “I’m tired of people saying I chickened out and didn’t build a rocket,” he said after being checked out by paramedics.
09:27 <Finwe> That's the spirit.
09:27 <Cepheid> Morning.
09:27 <Finwe> Mr Cepheid.
09:27 * Finwe doffs his hat.
09:28 <Schism> Cephy! Tell ConfusionRift how your La-Mulana randomizer run is going. o3o
09:28 <Schism> And hi.
09:28 <ConfusionRift> More than two years of working on this.
09:29 <Cepheid> Madness, mostly. Last update was https://twitter.com/LuminousOcean/status/1231651532409577474?s=19
09:29 <Cepheid> Plan to play in a little bit in fact.
09:30 <Schism> At least you got the Glove before solving every single block puzzle.
09:30 <ConfusionRift> Ooooh, you also got the mobility curse.
09:31 <Schism> ConfusionRift, on my latest run, the Hermes Boots were where the Eye of Truth usually sits. *ahahahaha...hahaha...ded.*
09:31 <Cepheid> More or less. But yeah, got the gloves early on.
09:32 <Schism> You also got the Scalesphere earlier than I did.
09:32 <Cepheid> Yeah, but not *THAT* big of a deal.
09:32 <Schism> I know, I know, but it's still nice to have.
09:32 <Cepheid> Lots of health can be a good substitute for the scalesphere.
09:33 <Cepheid> No, I'd prefer the helmet.
09:33 <Schism> Ohhh, yeah, you're missing that. Furrfu.
09:33 <ConfusionRift> Got the "pear", which should open the Gate of Confusion, the cape that helps with lava... the friggin' perfume!
09:34 <Schism> Bah. The Perfume isn't as nice as the Scriptures.
09:34 <Cepheid> https://www.reddit.com/r/MadeInAbyss/comments/f8dofh/i_made_my_brother_watch_made_in_abyss_and_i_got/ Heh.
09:34 <Schism> Seriously, the Scriptures are the best item in the entire game.
09:34 <ConfusionRift> True, but that's one pest that one can deal with easier.
09:34 <Cepheid> Pear is partly useless. No hand scanner.
09:34 <Cepheid> Sure, I can get to the Graveyard, but...
09:34 <ConfusionRift> Urgh... the scanner issue.
09:35 <Schism> Mm, you can at least get that one 'coin' chest over the pit of spikes.
09:35 <Schism> And that explody chest is actually valid in the randomizer.
09:35 <ConfusionRift> Sortaaaa. Might be a bit of a tight jump.
09:35 <Schism> He's got the Feather.
09:36 <ConfusionRift> but he's moving slower, which might halt the jump a bit.
09:36 <Schism> Oh, I always eat the spikes when I do that.
09:36 <Cepheid> I already got the exploding chest.
09:36 <Cepheid> It was immediately after Time Birb in the hallway.
09:36 <Schism> Oh, I meant the ordinarily-explody one.
09:36 <Cepheid> It killed me because I rushed and didn't wait to check what it was.
09:36 <ConfusionRift> Also the chest by the waterfall?
09:36 <Schism> Yea, he got that first.
09:37 * ConfusionRift nods.
09:37 <Cepheid> Neither of the chests behind the waterfall are viable.
09:37 <Cepheid> Need the helmet.
09:37 * ConfusionRift nods.
09:37 <Schism> The Surface was a bit sparse for Cephy, though he then immediately got all four seals in rapid order.
09:38 <Cepheid> Biggest finds on the surface were the real silver shield from Xelpud and the Katana.
09:38 <ConfusionRift> Which is ridiculous. -_-
09:38 * Schism is still missing the Life Seal. grmbl.
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09:38 <Schism> Gaaaame. Let me light up the Chamber, plz.
09:40 <Finwe> Use lighter on torch. o3o
09:41 * ConfusionRift sighs and continues the sequel.
09:41 <Schism> ... *stares at game* Oh right. No Dimensional Key yet. ... WHERE ARE MY CHAKRAMS!?
09:41 <ConfusionRift> Or I could try to advance in MHW... nah, sequel it is.
09:44 * uni flops
09:44 <uni> bleh this is the third night in a row they serve curry for dinner
09:45 <Koopz> RAdm. Finwe o7
09:45 <Finwe> Mr uni.
09:45 * Finwe doffs his hat.
09:46 <Finwe> Erm...
09:46 <Finwe> L/Cpl uni.
09:46 <Finwe> o7
09:49 <Cepheid> Right, shower before gaming. back in 15.
09:52 <Schism> Hum. Flail whip, move.exe, and lamulana.exe = ded Sakit.
09:52 <uni> RAdm. Finwe
09:52 * uni hats on Finwe
09:53 <uni> I cycled to camp today~
09:56 <Schism> Alright, buck these shenanigans.
09:56 * Schism unlocks Viy the ENTIRELY WRONG way.
09:58 <ConfusionRift> You know, the bosses haven't been too bad. The sub-bosses have been far cheaper.
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09:59 * Jackie sighs
10:00 <Schism> Oh, there's the Eye of Truth. And the chain whip...
10:00 * Schism ignores chain whip.
10:02 <Schism> ... *sigh*
10:02 <Schism> Tower chest gave me the Heatproof Case. THANKS.
10:02 * uni waves at Cyan_Spark!
10:02 <Cyan_Spark> heyo
10:02 <uni> heyo~
10:03 <Schism> Perfume chest was... a coin chest.
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10:08 <Schism> Fooooooo...
10:12 * Cepheid returns.
10:15 <Schism> Oh, Dimensional Corridor. I hate you so much.
10:20 <Schism> *gasp* Life seal! Instead of the angel shield, which I have. :P
10:21 * Schism scans room. Obtains ancient software: Earth Spear. "Well, that would have been nice to have 20 minutes ago before I got to Viy the wrong way."
10:25 * Cepheid uses the Gate of Time entrance to the Tower of Goddess.
10:25 <Schism> Let's see now. Life Seal. That's a coin chest, /that's/ a coin chest...
10:28 <Schism> Graveyard's life seal chest is... a sacred orb, okay, I'll take it.
10:31 <Cepheid> There, Tower of the Goddess grail point.
10:31 <Schism> There, Chamber is now LIT.
10:32 * Schism tries to remember if there are any more Life Seal points. Thinks that's it. "Oh, a coin chest in the Shrine, but eh."
10:34 <Schism> Ah, of course. And that trapped chest in the Shrine uses a seal, too.
10:34 <Schism> Cursed, whatever.
10:36 <Schism> Hm, PC store now stocks Death Village. Not sure I'm likely to use that...
10:40 <Schism> Hello there, spiky torment room.
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10:42 <Schism> Oh, the Gauntlet. ...that's worthwhile.
10:44 * ConfusionRift patpats Mjolnir. "You help me sooo much."
10:45 <Schism> Medicine, yay.
10:49 <Schism> Sayonara, Viy.
10:51 <Schism> Pffffff
10:51 <Schism> Mural trap in the Chamber of Extinction is dangerous, but it turns out, not a one-hit kill.
10:55 * ConfusionRift laughs at Xelpud.
10:56 <ConfusionRift> Mural trap? You mean the one that falls in Palenque's chamber?
10:56 <Schism> Yup.
10:56 <Schism> Hum. Okay, I hate Palenque so much that I'm just going to pistol.
10:57 <Schism> Because I don't have any chakrams anyway.
10:57 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, I believe it's no OHKO, but hurts a lot.
10:57 <ConfusionRift> Rolling shirukens and flares work as well. :P
10:58 <Finwe> Shirukens?
10:58 * Finwe throws a shuriken at ConfusionRift.
10:58 <ConfusionRift> Yes, that.
10:59 <Schism> Meanwhile, I swear the cheap ammunition is only sold by Dracuet.
10:59 <Cepheid> Firestorm. Lightning. Firestorm. Spirit Shot. Long pause. Lightning. Spirit Shot. Minor pause. Repeat.
11:05 <Schism> Okay, Palenque down. (Freakin' Options.)
11:06 <Schism> Fastest route to the door is... Graveyard, Birth, Door.
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11:09 <Schism> Hmm, Pepper.
11:11 <Schism> Why am I unable to oh duh. Blast it all. Have to moidor a boss before this door opens.
11:13 <Schism> Baphomet. *sigh*
11:14 <Finwe> The Curse of Baphomet (Chick, Jack T.)?
11:14 <Cepheid> ...
11:14 <Cepheid> Damnit!
11:14 <Cepheid> I beat her, but she got me with the targeted firestorm she fired off just before she died.
11:15 <Schism> Close enough, Finwe.
11:15 <Cepheid> I'm almost tempted to gather 400 gold and buy some bullets to deal with the second form.
11:15 <Finwe> o3o
11:16 <Cepheid> I already shoot her with my 4 remaining shots as is.
11:16 <Cepheid> Which is amazingly NOT ENOUGH.
11:17 <Finwe> Sometimes one just has to shoot a bit more.
11:18 <ConfusionRift> Urgh, you don't have the axe either.
11:18 <Schism> There, Baphomet down. Hate those witches...
11:18 <Schism> Shi's not that hard to hit with the whip. If you have the Gauntlet, anyway.
11:18 <Schism> I'm out of Ankh Jewels. Bleh. Glad I have the upper part of the Tower of Ruin open now.
11:18 <ConfusionRift> At least the shield should cover some of the spirit shots. It's the silver one, so pfft after a few.
11:19 <Schism> So, do I go after Mushushuu or whatever, or do I go to Ruin... eh, Ruin.
11:19 * Sleeping_Nightmares murrs and uses Schism as a bed and ConfusionRift as a blankie! She uses Finwe as a plushie and clutchies! She goes sleepies!
11:20 * Sleeping_Nightmares purrs happily
11:21 <Cepheid> The problem isn't the range or damage I'm doing, actually
11:21 <Cepheid> It's the momentary lapses of memorization of her pattern, and...
11:21 <Cepheid> The first firestorm + lightning combo. I'm too slow to dodge both the firestorm and lightning.
11:22 <Cepheid> Like, physically too slow. Hermes boots are needed to dodge it reliably.
11:22 <Cepheid> I find it hard to believe that only 1.7% of Steam players have gotten to the Tower of the Goddess via the Gate of Time.
11:22 <Finwe> Nighty-night, Sleeping_Nightmares!
11:22 <Schism> Cepheid: Well, it is hidden, and you have to knife that entry point like 20 times.
11:22 <Cepheid> True.
11:22 <Schism> Plus, the achievement only activates if you do that first.
11:23 <Cepheid> This is also true.
11:23 <Cepheid> Though, given the difficulty of this game and my history with it, I do wonder.
11:23 <Cepheid> Am I actually making a game in the same vein because I LIKED the game, or...
11:23 <Schism> Hm. To do this vanishing block puzzle the right way, or the easy way.
11:23 <Cepheid> Am I making a game in the same vein out of spite for Nuramura?
11:24 <Cepheid> That is: I want him to suffer what he has put me through.
11:24 <Schism> Perhaps. o3o
11:24 * Cepheid takes break to drink coffee.
11:24 <Cepheid> Was wondering why I was feeling groggy and a little out of it.
11:24 <Schism> Ugh, where is randc.exe? I can still deal with the whip and the baseline axe, but honestly, it'd make things SO MUCH BETTER.
11:24 <Finwe> Yewww.
11:25 <Cepheid> I didn't drink my coffee.
11:25 * Cepheid got randc.exe from the Tower of the Goddess.
11:25 <Cepheid> ... Wait, I only need Mirai and randc to- GAH
11:25 <Cepheid> I've not been using that combo for damage.
11:25 <ConfusionRift> Wait... that's also a trap?!
11:25 <Cepheid> Oh, wait. It's move and randc, isn't it?
11:25 * ConfusionRift sighs.
11:26 <Cepheid> Oh, no. Randc and mekuri.
11:26 <Cepheid> I don't have mekuri. Nevermind.
11:26 <ConfusionRift> I have gone through this path so many times, and passed by this trap so often. Stopped for a second to fend of a skeleton, and PFFT! Pancake.
11:26 <Cepheid> Yep.
11:26 <Cepheid> La-Mulana takes some of the evil of the first game and ramps it up a bit.
11:27 <Schism> Nuwa annoys me.
11:27 <Cepheid> One of the requests of the Deceased Crab, with respect to LM2, was to avoid certain cruelties.
11:27 <Cepheid> Like spike pinball.
11:27 <Finwe> "What do you mean 'yewww'? I don't like spam!"
11:28 * Cepheid noms come cauliflower.
11:28 <Schism> Okay, Nuwa, take 2.
11:29 <ConfusionRift> Wait, what in the world? There are more enemies now!
11:29 <Cepheid> Yeah.
11:29 <Cepheid> It's a trait from LM1.
11:29 <Cepheid> Every boss you kill causes more enemies to spawn.
11:30 <Schism> Kinda. LM1 had it so that more enemies would spawn after you get the Bronze Mirror.
11:30 <ConfusionRift> Oh wait... aaah right. Everyone's moving to Takamagahara Shrine. But... it doesn't make sense. I didn't kill anything for them to just spawn like that.
11:31 <Cepheid> Heh.
11:31 <Schism> Nuwa down and... oh. Right.
11:31 <ConfusionRift> Unless the game just realized I had something to trigger them, and started doing this.
11:31 <Cepheid> Schism: Ye sure? I recall spirits appearing one screen to the right of the Guidance grail after killing one or two bosses.
11:32 <Schism> I'm pretty sure the Bronze Mirror is the trigger, yes.
11:32 <Cepheid> Possible, Rifty.
11:32 <Schism> Pepper gets me... a coin chest. .-.
11:33 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, the bronze mirror was supposed to allow its user to see other things that are between spaces. Hence why the souls and some extras show up after.
11:33 <Finwe> Schism: Have you got anything without spam?
11:34 <Finwe> I mean, without coins. o3o
11:34 <ConfusionRift> But that happens on point. This time, there were no visible triggers for them. They just sorta... showed up.
11:34 <Schism> What kind of question is that? Spam, spam, wonderful spam...
11:34 * Schism hums. "Oh, I'd forgotten that Viy's death shatters the sphinx."
11:34 <Finwe> Could you do the egg bacon spam and sausage without the spam then?
11:35 * Cepheid finishes coffee, cauliflower.
11:36 <Schism> Alright, y'old fart. I've got yer darn treasures. What have you got for me?
11:36 * Schism gets chakram. "...kay."
11:36 <Cepheid> I am almost tempted, at this point, to just buy a stack of ammo for the pistol to just murder Baphomet's second form.
11:37 <Schism> There are worse options.
11:37 <Cepheid> Indeed.
11:38 <Cepheid> ... Nah, I'll try it a couple more times.
11:40 <Schism> Hello Talisman, how are you?
11:41 <Schism> If memory serves, there are three cursed chests. Nuwa has one, the Shrine has one, and the third is in the Chamber of Birth.
11:42 <Schism> This is not the right talisman.
11:45 <ConfusionRift> Okay, so that's how it it. Not an eye of retribution, not an eye of reckoning, but both.
11:49 * Cepheid jumps up. "Not this tiiiiime!" He strikes Baphomet in the head with the katana, then throws a bomb, point-blank. He gets blown back, but lands fine, and jumps off to the left platform, escaping Baphomet's death throes.
11:50 <Cepheid> ...
11:50 * Cepheid strangles the shop owner.
11:50 <Cepheid> In the place of the upgraded computer is... THE KNIFE.
11:51 <Schism> Hey, at least it's a fast-hitting weapon! o3o
11:51 <Cepheid> ...
11:51 <Finwe> o3o
11:51 <Schism> I hate the Song of Curry so very much.
11:52 <Cepheid> And Baphomet is not the boss that needs to die to get the gate open in the Tower of Ruin. It's Bahamut.
11:52 <Cepheid> Which I need the helm to reach.
11:52 <Finwe> A beloved child has many names.
11:52 <Schism> Eh? Baphomet needs to be killed in order to get to the uppermost portion of the Tower of Ruin anyway.
11:53 <Cepheid> I can't get there, though.
11:55 <Cepheid> ...
11:55 <Cepheid> For some reason, my mind just cannot remember one critical detail.
11:55 <Cepheid> This is an example of the meds affecting my memory, because I just did this TWO DAYS AGO.
11:56 <Schism> Aha. Now -that- is the correct talisman.
11:56 <Finwe> Hmm, actually, Bahamut seems to be cognate to Behemoth, while Baphomet is cognate to Mohammed.
11:57 * Finwe stands corrected. Almost as correct as the talisman mentioned by Schism.
11:57 * Cepheid runs through a list of all treasure locations he can think of.
11:57 <Schism> Finally! The Bracelet!
11:57 * ConfusionRift has a migraine. "Gonna stop for now."
11:57 * ConfusionRift puts The Song of Curry on full blast near Schism. :P
11:58 * Schism bites ConfusionRift. :P
11:58 <Cepheid> Fearless Challenger. I'll never get bored of this.
11:58 * Schism runs through his list of bosses. "Is Tiamat the only one left...? I think she is."
11:59 <Cepheid> One of the things I love about this game is how utterly deceptive it is at first.
12:00 <Cepheid> The puzzles and traps start off deceptively easy.
12:00 <Cepheid> Then it just ramps right up to 11.
12:00 <ConfusionRift> It gets so much worse in the sequel.
12:00 <Schism> Nuwa was holding... oh! The last Sacred Orb. Yay.
12:01 *** Quits: Golden (uid250033@Pony-sd90bk.tooting.irccloud.com) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
12:02 <Schism> Yup, the Shrine's cursed chest had that one last Ankh Jewel. I knew it.
12:02 * ConfusionRift grumbles.
12:03 <Cepheid> Honestly my biggest gripe with the sequel isn't with the traps or puzzles.
12:03 <Cepheid> I'm fine with that aspect, now.
12:03 <Cepheid> No, it's the one combat change Nuramura made.
12:03 <Cepheid> You get no invincibility frames against spikes.
12:03 <Cepheid> So you get hit by something, land in the spikes, and take damage anyways.
12:04 <ConfusionRift> Yep, you gets juggles ala Sonic 1.
12:05 <Cepheid> ...
12:05 <Cepheid> Wait, I pulled that off without getting hit with retribution?
12:05 <ConfusionRift> Let's see... a good number of sub-bosses are just plain annoying. (looks at breakdancer dude)
12:05 <Cepheid> I just did the knife puzzle with the chakram instead.
12:05 <ConfusionRift> Knife... puzzle?
12:06 <Cepheid> Where you have to use the shuriken to hit a pot on the far side of a retribution block.
12:06 <Cepheid> In the Temple of the Sun.
12:06 <Cepheid> ...
12:06 <Cepheid> Oh... my gods.
12:06 <Schism> Oh, usually you shuriken it. Heh.
12:06 <Cepheid> Flare Gun.
12:06 <Schism> Noice. o3o Finally!
12:06 <ConfusionRift> The idea is to just hot the pot. :P
12:07 <Cepheid> Yeah, the problem is that if anything hits the retribution block, which I assumed the Chakram would trigger, it would hurt me.
12:07 <Cepheid> Guess it doesn't.
12:07 <Schism> As always, that chakram puzzle in the Chamber of Birth took several tries.
12:07 <ConfusionRift> It CAN trigger it. It seems to kept a decent trajectory for it to not impact the block under.
12:08 * Cepheid lights the 3 torches in Guidance
12:08 <ConfusionRift> *you, not to.
12:08 * Cepheid opens the chest.
12:08 <Cepheid> ...
12:08 * Cepheid leaves La-Mulana, never to return.
12:08 <Cepheid> Dimensional Key.
12:08 <ConfusionRift> Oh ho hoooo!
12:09 * Schism maxes out most of his ammo. Except pistol.
12:09 <ConfusionRift> "Y o u a r e n o t R E A D Y ! ! !" | I know, leave me alone.
12:09 * Cepheid goes.
12:09 <Schism> Tiamat is going to be hell, isn't she. I don't have randc.exe yet and I have NO CLUE where it is.
12:09 <Cepheid> I got no choice. Nowhere else I can go. I've already dealt with the Chamber of Extinction.
12:10 <ConfusionRift> Schism: The other option would be... flares. Loads of them. Or the bomb trick, which never worked for me.
12:11 <Schism> OW, (#$*. Forgot, never ever EVER use the axe in the Chamber of Birth, because there's elephants everywhere.
12:11 <ConfusionRift> Oh, right. "puts on the song of curry again) :P
12:12 <Schism> Fire, die in.
12:12 <Schism> :P
12:14 <Schism> Thought I'd missed a coin chest here... oh.
12:14 <Schism> randc, thank you.
12:14 <ConfusionRift> Hey, don't have much of a grievance with this song. I find Mother Will Awaken and Wonder of the Wonder to be far more grating.
12:16 <Cepheid> Regarding D.Corridor, there's actually one boss I cannot fight right now.
12:17 <Cepheid> Merman dude. His arena has waterfalls blocking the exit. Moment I go to fight him, I'm trapped and can't escape.
12:17 <Schism> Egh.
12:17 <Schism> Maybe the Helmet's in one of those two easy chests to reach?
12:18 <Schism> Mushussu left behind... hah, a trapped chest.
12:19 * Schism Rolling Shurikens it from afar. "Bats!"
12:19 <Cepheid> ... Well, so much for that problem.
12:20 <Cepheid> Scannable in the upper room of D.Corridor was the helmet.
12:20 <Schism> Was I somehow correct? Aha.
12:20 <Schism> Ancient Software, helmet.
12:21 <Cepheid> Not that it matters. Since the worm boss killed me.
12:21 <Schism> I hate that bloody thing. Both of the worm bosses.
12:24 <ConfusionRift> I know there's a spot one's kinda safe on one of the worm bosses. The large one? Nah, everything sucks.
12:25 <Schism> Tiamat leaves behind a cursed chest, right. And this is... coins. :P
12:26 * Cepheid finds some spots to kill it from.
12:27 * Cepheid manages to murder it.
12:27 <Schism> Evidently that worm is also highly subseptible to caltrops.
12:27 <Cepheid> Yes! Yes yes yes finally!
12:27 <Cepheid> Angel Shield item spot was the chain whip.
12:27 <Schism> Yessss.
12:29 * Cepheid kills final boss of this path to escape, then proceeds to escape and SAVE.
12:29 * Cepheid then goes to the Spring in the Sky. Got unfinished business there.
12:30 <Schism> You know, I think I never did scan that mural in Extinction...
12:31 <Schism> Yeah, I knew it wouldn't be worth it.
12:32 <Cepheid> Man, Eyegore died in 3 hits.
12:33 <Cepheid> Not worth it. Coins.
12:33 <Cepheid> And seal at the top reveals...
12:33 <Cepheid> Guild.
12:34 <Schism> Pff.
12:34 <Cepheid> Spring was a bust.
12:34 <Cepheid> Coins, Guild, More Coins where glove was.
12:35 <Cepheid> Given I got fairies, money is not an issue.
12:36 <Cepheid> ... Oh you son of a b- Manage to get the jump right for the waterfall seal, but the bird dive bombs me last minute to knock me off.
12:37 <Schism> I always katana that friggin' bird.
12:37 <Cepheid> Other chest underneath sealed one is... Talisman
12:39 <Cepheid> Alternate shop in the Spring has..
12:39 <Cepheid> A map.
12:39 <Cepheid> Man, it really wants me to kill Tiamat, doesn't it?
12:40 * Cepheid goes for money, then goes to buy flares.
12:41 <Schism> Do you have the proper talisman yet? Remember that Tiamat leaves behind a trapped chest.
12:45 <Schism> There's 8.
12:45 * Schism considers stocking up on ammo.
12:46 <Cepheid> Nope. But I can still go for the sacred orb chest.
12:46 <Cepheid> And there's Mushu's chest.
12:51 * Schism passes right by Beelzebub, using the Lamp. "Nope."
12:55 <Cepheid> Sacred Orb has... Dragon Bone.
12:56 <Cepheid> Next up, merman path, just because.
12:57 * Cepheid makes a list of things not to do in his own game.
12:58 * Cepheid adds as #1) No Retribution Eye-like items in boss/miniboss rooms.
12:59 * Schism takes a break after failing to murder Mother. "Sigh. Got to the end stage. I should've just shot her."
13:01 <ConfusionRift> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuO28XTQ8tI Just passing by beelzebub. :P (0:50) When you suddenly remember you have to deal with Mother.
13:01 <Cepheid> Already has like, 4 items on the list.
13:02 <Cepheid> No puzzles like the D.Corridor Sacred Orb puzzle. No Eye of Retribution(or equivalent) in any boss or miniboss room. Unless the boss is *DESIGNED* around the concept. No A Bao Bo(OR whatever it's called) enemies. At least, none that dodge out of the way of every freakin' weapon no matter what you do.
13:02 <Cepheid> And lastly, no ninja-like enemies that become impossible to kill while they are invisible.
13:03 <ConfusionRift> "Puzzle."
13:03 <Schism> Cepheid: Oh, yes, you mean those enemies that will swoop in, invisibly, when your back is turned in the Tower of the Goddess?
13:03 <Schism> And which are really hard to see even -after- you get the Eye of Truth?
13:04 <Cepheid> Yes.
13:04 <Cepheid> The way they swoop out of the way is irritating as hell.
13:04 <Cepheid> I don't mind them being invisible, but they're hard to kill just because they swoop out of the way.
13:05 <Schism> Yeah. You can catch up to them with the boots, buuuut... they're still a pain. And I think they have like 6 hit points.
13:05 <Schism> Dragon Bone's a pretty decent prize. Have you already gotten the map for the Shrine?
13:06 <ConfusionRift> Okay, time for you to d- | "Nope!" | Hey, stop that
13:06 <ConfusionRift> Okay, time for you to d- | "Nope!" | Hey, stop that! | "Naaananananaa!" | Will you get over he- |"Whoopwhoopwhoop!!!" | Son of a-
13:07 <Schism> That's how I feel about that one fire dog in the Corridor. The one that swoops around and hits like a truck unless you've got the shield up.
13:08 <Schism> Mushussu isn't so bad, thankfully, until you fight him in Hell Temple, at which point you will have endless hate unless you use the Lamp.
13:08 <ConfusionRift> You can see them without the eye, but just barely. Real nice for them to camouflage them still.
13:08 <Schism> When those Medusa Heads are the least of your worries... :P
13:09 <Schism> What did I forget to get... oh right, the Spaulder, I decided not to buy it because Spaulder.
13:09 <ConfusionRift> Honestly, halfway through the Tower, those just stop being a problem, and it's just the hiding rats and the hovering mortar.
13:10 <ConfusionRift> And the badly placed skeledudes.
13:12 <Cepheid> Mushushu's up next.
13:15 <Cepheid> Key of Eternity.
13:15 <ConfusionRift> Huzzah! (plays the song of curry again) :P
13:16 <Lumindia> having the flu SUCKS
13:16 <ConfusionRift> It sure does.
13:16 <Lumindia> I'm calling my doctor's office to see if I can get something prescribed to deal with it
13:16 <Lumindia> My stepmother had the flu, and I had to go pick up mail for her. I must have gotten it from her
13:20 <Lumindia> and appointment set up
13:26 * Cepheid adds "Make sure circular damage objects actually have a circular collision box.
13:28 <Cepheid> If yer gonna put circular damage objects in the game, make sure they have circular collision boxes. None of this "You still touched it despite not touching it" crap.
13:28 <Cepheid> Also, the Endless Corridor was a bust.
13:28 <Lumindia> that seems problematic to deal with. I guess it depends on how your game(?) handles collision
13:28 <Cepheid> It's not hard to fix.
13:28 <Cepheid> Circles are like, one of the simplest shapes to handle. Circle-Box collisions are also easy.
13:29 <Cepheid> And given the game handles AABB collisions, not supporting circle-box is just lazy.
13:29 <Lumindia> most games I've played have square collision boxes
13:31 <Cepheid> Yep. They tend to be the most versatile.
13:32 <Cepheid> Next up is triangles, and ellipses(circles, but stretched)
13:32 <Lumindia> ... triangle collision boxes?
13:32 <Lumindia> why though?
13:33 <Cepheid> Depends on the shape of the object.
13:33 <Cepheid> More complex collisions tend to be combinations of different shapes, rather than a single box.
13:33 * PrincessRainbows stretches and licks everyhorse
13:33 <Cepheid> Ideally? You use multi-level checks. A simple shape to determine if whether or not there is a possible collision, like a box. Then you check against finer-grain collections of boxes, triangles, ellipses and such.
13:33 * Lumindia opts out of the licking
13:34 * Lumindia is sick with the flu
13:34 *** Quits: ADragonDreaming (IceChat9@Pony-tpdjag.livnmi.sbcglobal.net) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
13:34 <PrincessRainbows> Bleh
13:36 * Finwe ruffles PrincessRainbows.
13:36 <uni> bleh calculus
13:36 <Cepheid> Fun note, know what the best shape is for representing a human being in 3D?
13:36 <uni> a square!
13:36 <Cepheid> I don't know what the name of the shape is, but it's actually a collection of cylinders domed with half-spheres.
13:37 <uni> a capsule?
13:37 <Cepheid> ... Yeah, thanks, that's what I wanted.
13:37 <Cepheid> Capsules are the best way to represent human beings in 3D.
13:38 * ConfusionRift was reminded of Magic Circle.
13:39 <Cepheid> Ironically, older 3D games could, with modern computers, have pixel-perfect, exact collision detection.
13:39 <Cepheid> You can "deconstruct" models into a set of triangles. If the set is small enough, you can easily do triangle-triangle collision checks each frame.
13:39 <Cepheid> Problem is, modern games, models are made up of millions of triangles.
13:40 <Cepheid> 1 million * 1 million = 1 trillion.
13:42 <Finwe> 1 million x 1 million = 1 billion, actually.
13:42 <Cepheid> Check a calculator.
13:43 <uni> how many triangles were older games?
13:43 <Finwe> In Finland, a billion is 1 000 000 000 000. o3o
13:43 <Finwe> A trillion is 1 000 000 000 000 000 000 = (1 million)^3.
13:44 <Cepheid> Ah. Cultural differences.
13:44 <Finwe> It kind of makes sense, if you think of it.
13:44 <Cepheid> In North America, 1,000,000,000,000 is one trillion.
13:44 * ConfusionRift flops and explodes asleep.
13:44 *** Quits: ConfusionRift (ConfusionRi@Pony-0e2.irn.56.193.IP) (Quit: Recharging the batteries. Laters! *shutdown*)
13:44 <Finwe> Yes, but getting the power three there is quite illogical.
13:45 <Finwe> Mono-illion = (1 000 000)^1, sounds alright.
13:46 <Cepheid> Hum, twin labyrinths flare puzzle gets me... keysword.
13:46 * PrincessRainbows flops Finwe and hugs
13:46 <Finwe> Bi-illion = 1 000 000 000 = (?)^2...
13:46 <Cepheid> In any case Finwe, I think we can both agree that 1,000,000,000,000 in a worst-case scenario for checking triangle-triangle collisions is a bit much.
13:47 <Finwe> (10 000 * sqrt(10))^2 would give the right answer.
13:47 <Finwe> Tri-illion = 1 000 000 000 000 = (?)^3.
13:47 <uni> ooh do you know what would be nice?
13:48 <Finwe> (10 000)^3 obviously.
13:48 <uni> a computer that stops time, takes its sweet while doing the computations, then unstops time to move you forward the next frame
13:48 <Cepheid> Heh.
13:48 <uni> that'll be amazing
13:49 <Cepheid> Up until you get an infinite loop.
13:50 <Cepheid> Hum, time to pay attention to cat.
13:50 <Finwe> But, it turns out that if you want to have constant base, the American system becomes number = 1000^(prefix + 1), which, in my opinion, is a bit silly.
13:51 <Finwe> Compared to the French system, where number = 1000000^prefix.
13:53 <Cepheid> You ever been diagnosed with OCD, Finwe?
13:53 <Finwe> Original character disease?
13:53 <Finwe> No.
13:53 <Cepheid> ... You know full well what I meant. Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder.
13:54 <Finwe> No, I haven't, and I didn't actually know about that disorder.
13:56 <Cepheid> Huh. Anyhow, the reason I bring it up is it almost seems like you suffer from it. Like me, you latch onto topics and go on and on about them, whether they are relevant or not anymore.
13:59 <Finwe> In this case, making the silliness of the short system was a completely conscious choice.
13:59 <Finwe> *making clear
14:00 <Cepheid> If you say so.
14:01 <Cepheid> Cat
14:02 <Cepheid> Must you sleep on my lap and prevent me from doing anything?
14:02 <Cepheid> This is why I need an office.
14:20 <Cepheid> Freedoooom!
14:21 <Cepheid> ... I got a hell of a seed, didn't I? None of the new chests I could access have anything useful in them.
14:23 <Cepheid> ... Wait, why did that statue disappear?
14:23 <Cepheid> Oh.
14:26 <Cepheid> Hum, I wonder if that's considered cheating. Using the secret entrance to the tower of the goddess to reach the upper part of the gate of illusion. Schism?
14:28 <Cepheid> Actually it isn't. I only have access to a limited area, still.
14:31 *** Quits: RazorSharpFang (RazorSharpF@Pony-ch7n9j.tpgi.com.au) (Connection closed)
14:36 <Cepheid> ... Aaaaand the scannable point in the graveyard of the giants gets me the hand scanner.
14:48 <Schism> Cepheid: Yeah, that part is blocked off...
14:48 <Schism> Hah! Nice, finally.
15:02 <Lumindia> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/502170215082098718/681503767451009029/image0.jpg sickness is a heck
15:02 <Schism> It is. :<
15:02 <Lumindia> btw, face reveal
15:03 <Cepheid> Strangely, the tower of the goddess exits open up despite me not having used the platforms.
15:03 <Cepheid> My guess is, this was the intended path.
15:03 <Lumindia> was wearing that face mask for the entire time I was there and picking up some coughdrops at the rite-aid around the corner
15:03 <Cepheid> And because of that, I'm making progress. Also, my renewing ammo in the Gate of Illusion is bullets.
15:05 * Cepheid takes the easy way with Bahamut.
15:09 <Schism> ... Renewing bullets? You lucky sod.
15:09 * Cepheid murders Viy the same way.
15:09 <Cepheid> I'm taking it. I am OWED for the trouble I've dealt with.
15:09 <Cepheid> I'm using the pistol to murder.
15:09 <Schism> That's fine. I did the same on some bosses. ESPECIALLY PALENQUE.
15:14 <Cepheid> ... Huh, that explains the old man going "You say you saw your father..." line.
15:15 <Cepheid> I wasn't aware when you left the Annanuki-side barrier for the tower, you'll see Shawn down below in the old reservoir.
15:20 <Schism> You can also see him fleeing into the Temple of the Sun at one point, from above -- after which he smashes the Sphinx.
15:21 * Schism ows. "Shoulder is acting up."
15:26 <Cepheid> Yeah, that's what I meant.
15:27 <Schism> Aha.
15:27 <Schism> Hmm. https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/reports-publications/health-promotion-chronic-disease-prevention-canada-research-policy-practice/vol-33-no-2-2013/unintentional-injury-mortality-external-causes-canada-2001-2007.html?fbclid=IwAR3s15rIH3Og-cwfcWXVVGHO1f4kJN-qzhSfo0LMUnQibMk6Guohmy-X0k4#tbl4
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15:28 <Schism> Huzzah, the derp returns.
15:29 <DerpyBot> *derp*
15:29 <uni> oh my, the derp died?
15:30 <Schism> Lumindia: https://twitter.com/surfacage/status/1231759922213163009
15:31 <Lumindia> yeah that sounds about right
15:33 <Cepheid> Shuriken and Hermes boots, in upper Chamber of Birth.
15:34 <Schism> ... https://twitter.com/LH_AlexX/status/1228731122286288897
15:34 <Schism> Nice, Cepheid. o3o!
15:36 <Schism> Pfff. https://twitter.com/surfacage/status/1228025795693559808/photo/1
15:40 <Schism> Oh, PSO2 is coming to NA. ... on XBox.
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15:43 <Cepheid> Game wants me to kill Tiamat without the fairy clothes. *Reloads pistol* Okay then.
15:43 <Schism> <Tiamat> *blocks with hair*
15:43 <Schism> Holy crow, this glam. https://twitter.com/surfacage/status/1222739403245678593
15:44 <Lumindia> oh yeah, I saw someine wearing that a while ago
15:44 <Cepheid> ... And the gun- Yeah.
15:44 <Lumindia> a pretty fitting glam for a healer
15:44 <Lumindia> the last thing u see before going into surgery is eos with a scalpel
15:45 <Cepheid> Fine then. *Loads flares up*
15:47 <Cepheid> Right, I can't do this without the axe.
15:47 <Schism> Yeah. .-.
15:49 <Cepheid> Palenque it is, then.
15:51 <Cepheid> One less Palenque in the world.
15:57 <Cepheid> The fairy clothes are gonna be the last danged item I find, aren't they?
16:08 <PrincessRainbows> Woo she's back!
16:09 * Finwe noms on Lumindia.
16:13 <Cepheid> Found the axe.
16:14 *** PrincessRainbows is now known as MaredoggieRainbows
16:15 * MaredoggieRainbows chews on Finwe's hooves for no reason
16:21 <Cepheid> Time to stop. Getting annoyed. And hungry.
16:21 <Schism> Mmm. You got move.exe and randc.exe yet?
16:22 * Finwe hoof-wiggles with considerable lag.
16:22 <Finwe> !plot
16:22 <DerpyBot> *wigglewiggle*
16:22 <Finwe> *wigglewiggle*
16:22 <MaredoggieRainbows> wigglewiggle
16:24 <Lumindia> american healthcare sucks
16:25 <Lumindia> the Tamiflu I was prescribed is $200 out of pocket and not covered by my insurance
16:26 <MaredoggieRainbows> maybe because 90% of the time it's unnecesary but yes it does suck
16:30 <Cepheid> I have, Schism.
16:31 * Finwe offers some tuna salad to Cepheid.
16:33 * Cepheid opts for taking sedatives. Is irritable, and has a headache, so also takes tylenol.
16:43 <Finwe> http://fav.me/d6jdchw o3o
16:44 * Finwe slaps Lumindia around a bit with a bureaucratic IRS.
16:45 * Cepheid does a bunch of chores. Empty recycling, empty dishwasher, load dishwasher, clean cat water fountain, clean up mess around food bowls.
16:46 <Schism> > place cat in dishwasher
16:49 <Cepheid> Heh.
16:50 <Cepheid> No, he'd just do that himself.
16:50 <Schism> Heh, especially if you just ate tuna.
16:51 <Cepheid> I didn't.
16:51 <Cepheid> I'm eating pasta. Mmm. And yeah, I need to take a sedative. I'm feeling all wound up.
16:51 <Cepheid> Wrong.
16:53 <Cepheid> https://bogleech.com/scrapbook/eyes.html That last paragraph on the section regarding Backbeard
16:53 <Schism> Mmm. Pizza pockets.
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16:54 <Schism> Pfff.
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16:56 <Finwe> Miss Ali.
16:57 * Finwe doffs his hat.
16:58 <Cepheid> Hum. Crunchyroll has GeGeGe no Kitaro. I should check it out, given the youkai orientation of it.
17:03 * Ali doffs over Finwe, Cepheid, and Schism
17:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Fanfiction: Fallin' [ http://tinyurl.com/tfoql2p ]
17:03 <Schism> "I like Like-Like. Who wouldn't? It's got an adorable name and it looks like a big stack of donuts."
17:05 <Finwe> Looks like it's Shrove Tuesday tomorrow.
17:06 <Cepheid> Called doctor's office Looks like the doc got the CAT scan results finally.
17:06 <Finwe> And, consequently, the first day of Lent on Wednesday.
17:06 <Finwe> Did the scan show any anomalies?
17:07 <Cepheid> No idea. Doctor isn't in today, and she won't be seeing the results until tomorrow. Even then, I have to go in to discuss them, they won't tell me over the phone.
17:07 <Ali> That's annoying
17:09 <Finwe> Well, it's confidential information and it's almost impossible to ascertain that a caller is whoever he or she claims to be.
17:09 <Cepheid> Eh.
17:10 <Finwe> However, it seems to be perfectly alright whenever your physician calls you.
17:11 <Cepheid> I called them explicitly because the hospital's been lagging a bit. Normally they are faster than THREE WEEKS of delays getting the results out.
17:11 <Ali> Lets just hope they have actual information instead of "We have no idea, lets do more tests in five months"
17:11 <Cepheid> I'm concerned about it 'cause breathing's been a problem these last couple months.
17:12 <Cepheid> Heh.
17:12 <Cepheid> This is like, the third scan for my lungs in a year. Even if they come up clean, my mother plans to harass the doc into doing a long-term round of antibiotics.
17:13 <Ali> That apperently don't work
17:13 <Cepheid> Well, most rounds are 5 to 7 days.
17:13 <Cepheid> Long-term in this case is 21+ days.
17:14 <Cepheid> Apparently it's not the first time I've done this, either. Running antibiotics through me for long periods via IV was apparently done quite... frequently, when I was a baby.
17:16 <Ali> Huh
17:16 * Ali rolls around, thinks of Factorio later but that's for later times.
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17:24 * MaredoggieRainbows licks Ali till she's dripping
17:24 * Ali pat pats MaredoggieRainbows and brushies
17:26 * MaredoggieRainbows wags her tail and barks
17:27 * Ali puts a treat on MaredoggieRainbows's nosie
17:27 <Cepheid> I wonder how good a series like GeGeGe no Kitaro would do in North America, if it was aimed at children. Probably be met with complaints from concerned parents about scared kids, or accusations of teaching/promoting witchcraft/general spirituality, etc.
17:28 <MaredoggieRainbows> yay!
17:29 <Schism> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjqtvpLJTNM
17:29 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
17:29 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Amaroq Tells Us Jackalope Care
17:30 <Cepheid> For someone who's not studying Japanese diligently, I sure seem to be picking up a lot of words here and there.
17:30 <Cepheid> What're your thoughts on ghosties, spirits and the like, Schism?
17:32 <Schism> I don't believe in 'em, but I do like reading about them.
17:33 <Schism> Did you know that Buer is actually a professor in the humanities?
17:35 <Cepheid> I personally believe they exist, myself. But that they are not as malicious as commonly believed.
17:37 <Schism> By the way, you're not wrong. Back in the halcyon days of Pokemon, parents treated the Abra line as concerning, because hey, psychic stuff, witchcraft, devil!
17:39 <Cepheid> Yep.
17:40 <Cepheid> Western folks seem a bit less... interested in letting their kids be exposed to such stuff, either because it might be too scary, might involve witchcraft, etc.
17:40 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, Japan will just throw psychological breakdown and horrible transformation in front of it's kids, ala Evangelion.
17:46 <Ali> Or just go full siezures with that Porygon episode
17:47 <Cepheid> That was lack of forethought.
17:48 <Schism> Wow, this guy really hates Lucario.
17:51 <Cepheid> I think the greatest crime with respect to superstition has been the elevation of black cats to evil and not to be trusted.
17:51 <Cepheid> Despite the fact that black cats have, thus far, proven themselves to be some of the friendliest cats in the known world.
17:53 <MaredoggieRainbows> I built a website with a small script to recolor the page at every frame... I eventually added a waiver
17:53 <Cepheid> Bedside coding. Haven't done this in years.
17:54 <Cepheid> ... Not since college? THat'd place it last done in... 2006-2011 at the latest.
17:55 <Cepheid> ... Gitaro's dad is an eyeball. A walking eyeball.
18:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: MoonWalk Pony [ http://tinyurl.com/vm8ul7n ]
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18:07 <Schism> Hmmmmm, these bats look just a wee bit familiar. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honduran_white_bat
18:09 <Cepheid> Heh.
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19:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: These Disturbing Chinese Knockoff Pony Playing Cards [ http://tinyurl.com/wlpfmde ]
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20:01 <Cepheid> Someone come and take me away from this place for a few hours.
20:06 * Ali licks Cepheid
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20:33 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Fanfiction: The Bonding Stone (Update - Complete!) [ http://tinyurl.com/rptufcc ]
20:45 <Cepheid> Well that was soul-crushing and brought back memories and made me all sad.
21:14 <Cepheid> Schism, when you get the chance, go watch GeGeGe no Kitaro, episode 7, of the 2018 series.
21:23 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3261 [ http://tinyurl.com/uwvogqf ]
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23:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend - Equestria Girls / Anthro MLP Art Gallery #173 [ http://tinyurl.com/uhfv665 ]
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23:32 <Finwe> Godo evening, my smallish pastel-coloured equines.
23:33 <Finwe> Mlles Ali, MaredoggieRainbows and Sleeping_Nightmares; Messrs Cepheid, PinkieShy, uni and Schism.
23:33 * Finwe doffs his hat.
23:33 * Ali flops over the Finwe
23:34 * Finwe flips under an Ali.
23:34 * MaredoggieRainbows chews on Finwe's hat happily
23:35 * Finwe tries to shoo MaredoggieRainbows off his hat.
23:35 * MaredoggieRainbows gallops off dejectedly
23:42 <Tirek> Clearly what you have to do is invade 2fort and steal all the hats you can find.
23:42 <Tirek> Then eat them all
23:43 <Tirek> Destroy all of tf2's economy, and sate your haberdashery hunger at the same time.
23:45 * Ali noms on Tirek tail
23:46 <uni> good morning everyone~
23:46 <uni> I book out in like 15 minutes
23:46 <uni> so, bye
23:47 <Schism> Poor DeceasedCrab.
23:52 * Ali licks Schism
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