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02:34 <Cepheid> https://i.imgur.com/3UqbktV.gifv
02:34 * Lumindia flops upon Ali
02:34 <Lumindia> blaaah
02:40 * Cepheid awakens coughing up a storm.
02:51 * Ali locks up Cepheid thinking they have Corvid 19
02:51 <Ali> Other than that, how is Cepheid?
02:51 <Cepheid> Not bad. Cold.
02:52 <Ali> 3 cases now in my county, whoopie
02:54 <Cepheid> I'm starting to think i dodged a bullet, myself, by taking a break from university.
02:55 <Cepheid> Since early January, I've been getting a progressively worse and worse cough. If I were still attending university in this condition, I am almost certain that one or more people would have tried to get me quarantined.
02:55 <Ali> Probably
02:55 <Cepheid> Or that I'd be ordered to stay home.
02:55 <Ali> Like every major school here has shut down the campus
02:55 <Cepheid> I have no other symptoms of COVID-19. Just the coughing.
02:56 <Ali> Some symptons of COVID-19 include but not limited to, easily manipluated by the media. Doesn't know how to wash hands or stay at home when sick.
02:56 <Cepheid> I even just took my temperature to prove it.
02:57 <ADragonDreaming> in SWTOR MMO, general chat was "discussing" covid
02:57 <Cepheid> I'm 97.8F
02:57 <ADragonDreaming> I picked a particularly ... obstreperous ... person, and just told them to wash their hands every time they said something.
02:57 <ADragonDreaming> It was surprisingly effective in causing them to go quiet.
02:57 <Cepheid> I'm actually "cold."
02:57 <Cepheid> Normally my temperature is between 98.6 and 98.9
02:58 <Ali> Mine can get down into the 97s a lot
02:58 <Cepheid> Mine usually only goes up to a maximum of 99.5. That's reserved for when I have headaches though.
02:59 <Cepheid> ADragonDreaming, heh. How did they take it?
02:59 <Ali> Apperently they ran off to wash their hands of it *shot*
03:00 <Cepheid> Hum. Monster Hunter is 16 years old today. Happy birth- *Gets run down by a Barroth*
03:00 <ADragonDreaming> They tried to be snarky, but, like I said, they eventually just stopped talking.
03:01 <Ali> Its a simple thing really of awareness and proper care
03:01 <ADragonDreaming> Yep.
03:01 <Ali> If you have it DON'T GO OUT YOU IDIOT
03:01 <Ali> Other than that, just wash your hands every time you go out and that should help a lot more than some silly facemask
03:02 <ADragonDreaming> to most effectively prevent transmission, give the facemask to a sick person.
03:02 <Ali> Yeah, it doesn't help a healthy person at all
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03:05 <Cepheid> Arguably, wearing a facemask even though my cough is not contagious, nor would it help me, would probably be a good idea.
03:05 <Cepheid> As stated, I am constantly coughing now. People would be unnerved around me.
03:06 <Cepheid> Wearing a mask might make them feel a tad safer, even if they can't catch what I have.
03:07 <Cepheid> ... And carrying around some official paperwork that shows I've been tested for COVID-19, and that I'm clean. But I don't have any major symptoms other than coughing, so it'd be a waste of the test.
03:11 <Cepheid> The hilarious part is that my respiratory doctor wants me to go to the hospital to get some bloodwork done. Has to be the hospital specifically. The one she works at too.
03:12 <Cepheid> The reason being if I go to said hospital to get the bloodwork done, they'll do it for free if I mention that the respiratory doctor in question sent me for bloodwork.
03:12 <Cepheid> Otherwise, the bloodwork will cost me upwards of $600 because it is a collection of uncommon tests.
03:13 <Cepheid> But the problem is in going to a hospital when I'm coughing up a storm on a regular basis.
03:13 <PrincessRainbows> I'm saddened by the fact these hysteric morons, who are by far not at risk. are making things worse
03:14 <PinkieShy> !seen straight
03:14 <DerpyBot> PinkieShy: The last time I saw....will you cut that out already?!
03:14 <PrincessRainbows> !seen PrincessRainbows
03:14 <DerpyBot> PrincessRainbows: Silly filly, your eyes are all derpy. PrincessRainbows is in the channel.
03:14 <PrincessRainbows> tsk tsk
03:15 <PrincessRainbows> !seen DerpyBot
03:15 <DerpyBot> Look into my eyes.. 6_9
03:15 * DerpyBot puts her front hooves on PrincessRainbows's shoulders.
03:15 <PrincessRainbows> poni :3
03:16 <PinkieShy> PrincessRainbows I'm surprised DerpyBot doesn't like 'puts hoof on <username here>' if the person asking if themselves was last seen
03:16 * PrincessRainbows boops PinkieShy's horn and giggles
03:16 <PrincessRainbows> I know right...
03:19 <Lumindia> I was up to 101 when I had the flu
03:20 <Cepheid> To be honest the paranoia is somewhat deserved. With no vaccine, no treatment, no cure, the risk for infection is greater, and the effects of it more severe. And even at say, a small percentage risk of infection, a single person with the illness could come into contact with a lot of people. Who then can contract it, and they come into contact with lots of people. Exponential growth, with no way to limit it is a scary thing.
03:22 <Cepheid> But that's the WHOs concern.
03:22 <Cepheid> Meanwhile the concern of the people is how it will affect their lives. Or whether they will die from it.
03:29 <Cepheid> https://i.redd.it/pl4r46e6c5m41.jpg
03:30 <Cepheid> https://i.imgur.com/cEDy3BT.jpg
03:48 <Cepheid> https://i.redd.it/l741muz0u2m41.jpg
03:53 <Cepheid> https://v.redd.it/3oko5clo9tl41 interesting solution.
04:00 <Ali> Are they...running into boilers?
04:01 <Cepheid> Tanks.
04:02 <Cepheid> It is an emergency stop type setup. Not sure how it compares to gates, but it'll stop trains dead in their tracks.
04:07 <Ali> I dunno either, gates are something a bit beyond me as well as the circuit networks
04:07 <Cepheid> Okay, wow. The chest stuff is really bad today. I breathe, and not just my trachea, but my lungs itch and hurt, like I'm breathing in itching powder.
04:07 <Ali> Its why I use that blueprint reactor so much
04:09 * Cepheid takes cough syrup. Immediately proceeds to cough up lungs.
04:14 * Ali pat pat pats Cepheid
04:14 <Cepheid> Hello Spitfire
04:15 <Cepheid> The worst part about the coughing isn't the coughing, or pain associated with it and breathing.
04:15 <Cepheid> It's that it has become incredibly hard to get a decent amount of sleep.
04:16 <Cepheid> Starting to think I should, for the foreseeable future, start planning shorter "days."
04:17 <Cepheid> Get 3-5 hours sleep. Stay up for about 6-8 hours. Repeat.
04:19 <Cepheid> https://imgur.com/a/ivUabY8 Now here's a mod I'd like to use. Not out yet though.
04:24 <Ali> That does look nice
04:28 <Cepheid> https://v.redd.it/4y4m6dwizgj41
04:29 <Cepheid> My cat does the "jump down onto hooman" thing quite often due to my couch. Even a small animal like a puppy or cat hurts.
04:32 <Cepheid> What he does is I'll be laying on my couch, he'll jump up and walk along the top, then pounce down to his usual spot. Right on top of my crotch.
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04:35 <Cepheid> https://v.redd.it/ymkg4ng0gfj41
04:44 <Cepheid> https://i.imgur.com/586hgcK.gifv this is cute.
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04:58 <Cepheid> Hum. Intel CPUs hit by another vulnerability that isn't mitigated by any of the current mitigation techniques. And the solution to fix it is likely to carry a hefty penalty.
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04:59 <Cepheid> As it involves inserting a fence instruction after every single vulnerable load instruction to mitigate.
05:00 * Cepheid reads up on it.
05:03 <Cepheid> Oh sweet geezus. The paper recommends fences after every possible load instruction.
05:08 * PrincessRainbows flops on Ali all tired and whimpers
05:08 * Ali snuggles into PrincessRainbows
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05:10 <Cepheid> God damn, Intel. Get your act together. You keep touting all these security features, but what's the point when you can circumvent them?
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05:10 * PrincessRainbows boops Ali with her twilight plushie and whimpers more
05:10 <Ali> Cause lazy people don't care until the *yay* hits the fan
05:11 <Cepheid> Indeed.
05:11 <Ali> What's a few bugs when you can make millions on a broken ass piece of software?
05:11 <Cepheid> Intel is not a company I would want stocks in these days.
05:11 * Ali brushies the PrincessRainbows more and comforts the filly
05:11 <Cepheid> This isn't software.
05:11 <Cepheid> It is another architectural bug in the CPUs themselves.
05:12 * PrincessRainbows grabs her pacifier too and curls up under Ali to go sleepy like a good little filly
05:12 <Cepheid> That is, it is a hardware problem. Mitigating it means upgrading to a new CPU revision that has the hardware fix. Or dealing with the potential performance impact.
05:13 <Cepheid> Which for this bug is listed as anywhere from 2x to 19x depending on the software and mitigation implementation.
05:14 <Cepheid> Mitigation also requires blacklisting some instructions, including the extremely common, ubiquitous "ret" instruction.
05:16 <Cepheid> The paper focuses mainly on CPUs with Intel SGX(Software Guard Extensions), but the exploit works on CPUs without it.
05:22 * Filly_Nightmares nibbles on Cepheid
05:30 * Cepheid pets Filly_Nightmares and Spitfire.
05:30 * Filly_Nightmares purrs and rolls onto her back
05:37 <Ali> CPUs are the chips correct for the motherboard?
05:37 <Ali> Don't think my PC would be affected, due to its age and it doesn't run on intel.
05:38 * Lapsus whinnies
05:38 * Ali sniffs newpony
05:40 * Lapsus reaches out a hoof to boop Ali's nose.
05:40 <Lapsus> Also, good morning :v
05:40 * Ali squeaks
05:40 * Ali sits, doesn't know this pone
05:43 <Lapsus> I've been away from irc for a while, I figured I'd join a few channels outside of my usual list.
05:43 * Lapsus shrugs
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05:46 * Lapsus looks down at his hoof, slightly horrified
05:47 <Cepheid> While the target is Intel in this paper, the documentation makes it sound like it might also affect AMD, ARM and other processors.
05:47 <Cepheid> Ali: Yes, those are the chips that you put in yourself, and attach a giant honking heatsink and fan to.
05:50 <Lapsus> Cepheid: Is this the LVI vulnerability, or is there another new one? I haven't been keeping track
05:52 <Cepheid> LVI.
05:53 <Cepheid> It's mostly a problem to people using Intel SGX, which is not the general public.
05:53 <Cepheid> So in theory the mitigation cost should be minimal, if non-existent for most software.
05:54 <Cepheid> But it will impact any software reliant on security features of the CPU, which is probably gonna be most server software, virtual machine software, and so on.
05:54 <Cepheid> Which means it'll impact cloud-based computing.
05:54 <Cepheid> That said, the vulnerability does work without Intel SGX. It's just a little bit harder to abuse.
05:55 <Cepheid> So for proper mitigation, all CPUs vulnerable to it, whether they use Intel SGX or not, will need to be mitigated.
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05:57 * Lapsus makes a horse noise at Moongoodgirl
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06:22 <Cepheid> Seems it doesn't affect some ARM and AMD CPUs. Specifically, more recent models. That said, complete mitigation for CPUs vulnerable to it requires inserting an instruction that halts the CPU after every explicit and implicit load instruction to ensure architecturally proper behaviour. This basically means telling the CPU to stop doing work until a certain state is reached.
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06:24 <Cepheid> Even worse, adding said instruction after an instruction that does an implicit load is insufficient. It requires emulating the implicit instruction by replacing it with a set of instructions. Thus, if there were hardware-level "fast" optimizations for the original instruction, their benefits are lost.
06:27 <Cepheid> The paper's writer implements a prototype software mitigation implementation, and tests it.
06:27 <Cepheid> Performance impacts range from a 0.91% increase, up to over 950% increase in time, depending on the situation.
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06:30 <Ali> AND we're back after internet farts
06:31 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, Intel's provided mitigations, which included an un-optimized GCC patch, and an optimized LLVM patch, incur impacts of anywhere from 300% to 1800% for GCC. For LLVM, anywhere from 2% to 86%. And that's only partial mitigation.
06:32 <Ali> You're losing me Cepheid
06:32 <Lapsus> Sounds like things are going to get interesting in the datacenter
06:33 <Cepheid> Yep.
06:34 <Cepheid> Ali: Long story short, the bug doesn't affect some AMD and ARM CPUs. The rest, along with most of Intel's currently-in-use CPUs, are affected. And the performance hits for "fixing" it at the software level can be considerable.
06:34 <Ali> Kay?
06:34 <Cepheid> That said, the impact is mostly going to be limited to data centers, cloud computing and the like.
06:35 <Cepheid> Basically it just means that for your average user, there's really not much of a problem.
06:35 <Ali> I'm on old architecture anyway, I has POS compie
06:37 <Cepheid> Ow. Ow ow ow ow. My chest.
06:37 * Ali loads Cepheid into ambulance and rushies to hospital as a confused mare.
06:38 <Cepheid> I'm okay. It was just a sharp needle pain in my right lung when breathing. It's gone now.
06:39 <Ali> Ah, usually chest pains I think heart attack first and ask questions later.
06:40 <Cepheid> There's other symptoms.
06:40 <Cepheid> Blurry vision, pain/tingling in the left arm, slurred speech, etc.
06:40 <Cepheid> ... Wait, that's a stroke.
06:41 <Cepheid> Ah, heart attack has a lot of other symptoms as well, none of which I show or feel. :P
06:44 <Cepheid> In any case, with respect to COVID-19, the only way I can contract it at the moment is through my dad.
06:45 <Cepheid> While my mother works alongside other people, the likelihood of that one person she works with having contracted the virus is low. Meanwhile, my dad...
06:45 <Cepheid> He's an on-call computer technician. His job is to respond to requests to repair computer stuff on-site.
06:45 <Cepheid> So that means going to offices, buildings, people's homes, and the like.
06:46 <Cepheid> His employer's only action thus far is to provide gloves, and tell their employees to make use of said gloves.
06:46 <Cepheid> This is one of those cases where I think the employer should go "Uhm... maybe we need to rethink this."
06:50 * Ali nod nods
06:51 <Cepheid> That said, my dad uses hand sanitizer, and tries to avoid touching his face as much as possible.
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07:00 <Cepheid> Time to give myself a fever and headache.
07:02 <Cepheid> Heh.
07:02 <Cepheid> There's a French meme going around about Coronavirus.
07:02 <Cepheid> "Chew two cloves of garlic. It'll do nothing for the Coronavirus, but it'll keep people away from you."
07:09 <Ali> Snerk
07:10 * Ali wunts to Factorio, but can't think of what she'd should do.
07:18 <Cepheid> Hey, hey Andrew, you know what's a good idea? When you plug your laptop into an extension cord, make sure the extension cord itself is plugged into the wall.
07:21 <Ali> Snerk
07:28 <Cepheid> With respect to Factorio, I'm debating a modded server. Simple mods, in this case. Helmod for factory planning, Vehicle Snap, and Clockwork.
07:29 * Ali headtilts, what mods are dose?
07:30 <Cepheid> Helmod is a factory planning mod, like Factory Planner. Gets regular updates, though. VehicleSnap makes it so you can turn your vehicle to specific angles, rather than having to carefully turn constantly to get a desired angle. Great for doing straight-line runs of stuff.
07:30 <Cepheid> Clockwork is used to extend the length of the game day and night.
07:31 <Ali> But what does clockwork do other than that?
07:31 <Ali> I mean, changing the day/night length seems kinda silly?
07:31 <Ali> That only affects solar panels
07:33 <Cepheid> Yeah. I mostly want try and balance out solar a bit. Add in Advanced Electric which adds tiered accumulators and solar panels... makes solar trickier to work with too.
07:36 <Ali> What about tiered radars?
07:37 <Cepheid> I think there is a mod for that yeah.
07:38 <Ali> Cause as much as I like radars
07:39 <Ali> They get a bit, ineffective and annoying once the base area gets huge
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07:39 * Cepheid touches freshly boiled pasta. Burns self. "I don't know why I did that."
07:39 <Ali> They're a real pain to use in the mid game due to the ineffient power of that time
07:39 <Ali> Cause of solar's off/on nature
07:39 <Ali> And I still hate steam cause it pollutes so much and there's nothing you can do to lower it.
07:39 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
07:40 * Ali snugs a Rifty
07:40 <Cepheid> Hey Rifty.
07:40 <Cepheid> Basically, by extending the day-night cycle, solar becomes a complimentary power source, while nuclear and coal are primary.
07:42 * Ali nods
07:44 <Cepheid> Bleh... body and mind just aren't co-operating today. I should be working, but the neither the mind or the body want to.
07:45 <Cepheid> Instead of coding, I just find myself doing small chores here and there instead.
07:45 <Cepheid> Or research.
07:49 * Ali sits on Rifty
07:50 * ConfusionRift flopples
07:51 <ConfusionRift> It's hot in here...
07:53 * ConfusionRift huggles Ali.
07:54 <ConfusionRift> I'm still super behind on that. Barely got solar, and because research requirements are higher, it takes much longer to unlock other tiers.
08:05 * ConfusionRift boots up 'that' game, and just doesn't progress.
08:05 <ConfusionRift> There's so much going on with this boss.
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08:18 <ConfusionRift> Okay. That was... huh... that was easier than I made it out to be.
08:22 <Ali> You know, I get a laugh from twitter
08:22 <Ali> All these people are claiming that CORVID 19 is like the WORST THING EVER
08:23 <Ali> And of course, first thing they do is blame Trump
08:23 <Ali> Like he had any control over this thing
08:23 * Ali snuffles into ConfusionRift
08:23 <Ali> Bleh, I saw a Cities Skylines video, I want to play it again, but I'm too many DLC's behind.
08:24 <Cepheid> ConfusionRift: Which boss?
08:24 <Cepheid> I'm guessing Surtr.
08:25 <ConfusionRift> That's why I'm steering away from any politics. It's just this mess, and it's either the usual "bad president here!", or the virus.
08:25 <ConfusionRift> Yes, Surtr.
08:25 <Cepheid> Yeah.
08:25 <ConfusionRift> I was just having bad luck previously, with him basically removing EVERY platform there was.
08:25 <Cepheid> Want to know my secret?
08:26 <Cepheid> Wear the clay doll outfit until he starts to walk off the screen. Then remove it when you're in a safe spot, and proceed to double jump just as he disappears off screen.
08:26 <Cepheid> Bring a fairy, too. Helps.
08:28 <ConfusionRift> I was thinking on the clay outfit, but it was gonna be a bit of a hassle to constantly switch... so I mixed some app combos, the axe, and did a bit of veering.
08:28 <Cepheid> Fair enough.
08:28 <Cepheid> I just abused the outfit. It wasn't as bad as you'd think.
08:28 <ConfusionRift> It wasn't, actually.
08:29 * Cepheid hooks up bluetooth headset to recharge. Powers on, uses as an amplifier for music.
08:31 <ConfusionRift> You can sorta manipulate him. If you're on the side of the area, he will try to push you down. Sorta move him to the opposite side, and try to stand underneath his head. He'll try to spit at you, so you jump to a side platform. Also, you can destroy some of the debris if you need to. Avoid the katana for that.
08:31 <Cepheid> Yeah, he can be manipulated to move around.
08:31 * Cepheid wonders how Rifty will do on the final guardian.
08:33 <ConfusionRift> If he moves off stage, just jump the opposite direction will axing the rocks in the air. You can (not suggested) jump way high just like 3 seconds after he leave, and land on his arm as he punches.
08:33 <Cepheid> Yeah. I just used the suit, then when I saw him go off screen, jumped onto a spot, took it off, and double jumped just as he went offscreen. I'd always land on his arm, right in front of his face.
08:33 <Cepheid> Then spam the whip like no tomorrow.
08:34 <ConfusionRift> The axe does a good chunk of health with the apps. But leaves you in the open. The whip, apps, and spaulder probably destroyed him faster. :P
08:35 <Cepheid> Ah. That's why the collision isn't working. I used the wrong tile for "solid" in my map.
08:45 * Ali rolls around
08:46 * Cepheid fixes, re-exports map.
08:48 <Heartbreak> Beep beep
08:49 * Cepheid sighs. "You stupid piece of-"
08:50 <Cepheid> I really need to make my own map editor.
08:50 <Cepheid> This is stupid.
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08:55 * Ali licks Heartbreak~
08:55 <Heartbreak> Gah! Ali! No licking! Why aren't you setting an example for the others!?
08:56 <Ali> I ish~
08:56 <Heartbreak> D: You don't set an example by -licking- others! You set an example by -not- licking others!
08:56 <Heartbreak> Licking others is -gross!-
08:57 <Ali> Ish just friendly pony greeting
08:57 * Ali bleps
08:58 <Heartbreak> Lick some -other- individual...
09:31 * PrincessRainbows licks Heartbreak till she's dripping
09:32 <Cepheid> Right, I don't know what's going on with this, but something is broken.
09:33 <Ali> See, PrincessRainbows knows what she's doing
09:34 * Ali snuggles PrincessRainbows and brushies her softly.
09:37 <Cepheid> ... Oh
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09:42 * ConfusionRift goes into the developer's room.
09:45 * PrincessRainbows boops ConfusionRift with her plushie and makes grabby hooves
09:45 * ConfusionRift grabbies and pets PrincessRainbows. :P
09:47 * PrincessRainbows tears up and hugs ConfusionRift tightly
09:52 * ConfusionRift huggles PrincessRainbows.
09:54 <Cepheid> Yeeeaaaah definitely gonna have to optimize that.
09:55 <Cepheid> Otherwise, it works.
09:56 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnLAC5AJPuM
09:56 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
09:56 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Track 01 - THUNDER FORCE IV『Lightning Strikes Again - Metal Squad』
09:57 * PrincessRainbows still whimpers and hides under him
10:00 <ConfusionRift> Aaaaah, S.S.H. It's been a while.
10:00 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.
10:01 <ConfusionRift> Sadly, his site is down. He had a lot of his stuff there.
10:01 <Cepheid> He did, yeah.
10:02 <Cepheid> Hum, ye know though. I wonder why Thunder Force became such a popular series. Wasn't much of a story behind it.
10:02 <Cepheid> Probably the music along with the gameplay.
10:03 <ConfusionRift> Popular? Not so sure. In the shmup community, yes, the recognize the series and some follow it. I don't hear that many talk about shmups in general.
10:03 <ConfusionRift> Shmups don't need much of a story. :P
10:04 <Cepheid> Heh.
10:04 <Cepheid> Just needs cool-ass designs, good music, and fun gameplay.
10:04 * ConfusionRift nods.
10:05 <ConfusionRift> By the game alone, most shmups don't have much of a story. You have to go by the manuals or the visuals that occur as you play.
10:05 <Cepheid> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpuqD1fPquM Truth told, I'd love to see this particular battle done in modern 3D.
10:06 <Cepheid> Opening and all.
10:06 <Cepheid> For a SHMUP, it was a pretty detailed way to open up a boss, especially given they don't really use it again in any of the other stages.
10:08 <Cepheid> Probably because it killed performance. That opening suffered some slowdown.
10:09 <ConfusionRift> Well, when you're against the battleship (I think it's Cerberus) there's a similar cinematic going on, and then having other fighters getting shut down gave that feel of "this guy is serious and it's gonna be a problem", and then the upgrade... you don't see that in older games that much.
10:09 <Cepheid> There was that, yeah.
10:10 <ConfusionRift> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY-uH00lT_g And there was this. It's not the beginning fight, but the intro.
10:10 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
10:10 <Cepheid> Though, I have seen some R-Type(I think?) games where there was some pretty extensive cutscenes. And in one case, mind-screwery with time travel.
10:10 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about THUNDER FORCE 4 INTRO REMAKE IN 1080p
10:10 <ConfusionRift> That would be R-Type, yeah.
10:10 <Cepheid> Oh nice.
10:11 <ConfusionRift> Final Stage C. You're traveling back through a time rift, trying to reach the point before the Bydo attack.
10:12 <Cepheid> Yeah, and they did it in an interesting manner, too.
10:12 <Cepheid> Your motions during the first encounter are recorded.
10:12 <Cepheid> And then used during the followup.
10:13 <ConfusionRift> Okay, the motion part is not in R-Type Final, but I do remember seeing that somewhere.
10:14 <ConfusionRift> R-Type Final has a special spot for me. Especially with some of the craziness that happened as you unlocked other stages by replaying the game.
10:16 <Cepheid> I'm not sure if it was an R-Type game or not. I just remember that there was a stage that opened with a time traveller popping in, explaining the situation, and the two of you going inside a massive ship along different paths to destroy the core. It's later revealed that *YOU* are the one that traveled back in time. The movements you make during the initial encounter are recorded, and, when you do the time travel part and
10:16 <Cepheid> go through the ship again along the other path, they re-use your inputs for the other ship.
10:17 <ConfusionRift> That sounds REALLY familiar!
10:17 <Cepheid> I just remember seeing it in a stream, and went "That's cool."
10:18 <Cepheid> Little bit much in regards to attention to detail, but cool none-the-less.
10:18 <ConfusionRift> It's really clever.
10:19 <Cepheid> Of course, it can only work up to a certain amount of time. When the core is destroyed. I presume if the player takes too long, and the recorded input ends, the game defaults to an AI controller.
10:21 <ConfusionRift> What I remember was me piecing some of the craziness in R-Type Final. Like, if you opt to go to Final Stage B, you have to fight a unique boss, which basically runs on a time limit. Once you do kill it, your ship is infected by the Bydo. The following stage is you shooting down other R-Series ships. At the end, the original fighter fights you, in the R-9A.
10:22 <Cepheid> Yeah, I remember that from R-Type Final.
10:23 <ConfusionRift> Once you beat it, you're seeing leaving from where you started the game. What's crazy is that when you actually start the game from Stage 1, you can see that same ship leaving.
10:29 <Cepheid> Eeeyup.
10:33 <ConfusionRift> Oh, found that Rata- (dies)
10:40 <Cepheid> Heh.
10:41 <Cepheid> There was a trick to dealing with that particular version, the one in the Prison.
10:41 <Cepheid> I can't recall what it was off-hand, though.
10:42 <Cepheid> He's actually manipulatable. He moves based on your positioning and his, and where he moves based on those two things is set in stone.
10:42 <Cepheid> His attacks work the same way.
10:43 <ConfusionRift> I know you can either slash or block the side projectiles. The problem is the beam. Will figure it soonish. Just gonna look around with the key fairy real quick.
10:43 <Cepheid> In one of the many battles, I managed to get him locked into spitting nothing but those meteors, while his head was perfectly level with a platform such that I could just throw shuriken at him.
10:43 <Cepheid> In another, I was able to coax him into doing his dash forward into a platform repeatedly, with no risk to me.
10:44 * ConfusionRift nods.
10:44 <Cepheid> He'd dash, strike the platform, land. I'd jump up and hit him a couple times. He'd jump back. I'd jump forward, and he'd dash again.
10:44 <Cepheid> Repeat until dead.
10:50 <Cepheid> Right, so I got collision detection between non-projectile entities and the world working. It's not very performant though, and it's got some bugs.
10:51 <Cepheid> But these are things I can fix another day.
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11:00 <ConfusionRift> Was able to get him to just shoot the meteors. So I was able to jump over the meteors, and throw a spear till death.
11:03 <Cepheid> Yep.
11:03 <Cepheid> My parents are starting to get concerned about my wellbeing.
11:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1869 [ http://tinyurl.com/rknda4t ]
11:10 <Cepheid> I have been checked up and down, through and through. X-rays, CT scans, CT scans with dyes, the only things I haven't done are a new blood test, which will check for TB, CF, and a number of other blood-related problems(Apparently, overproduction of certain proteins can cause problems.), and giving the labs several samples of what's coming up from my chest.
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11:14 <Cepheid> https://forums.factorio.com/viewtopic.php?f=190&t=82122 Hum.
11:23 <ConfusionRift> This is actually pretty cool.
11:25 <ConfusionRift> Wait, I think I did tried this mod before, but that was several versions ago and wasn't this complete.
11:25 <Cepheid> Yeah, that's an older version now renamed Krastorio Legacy.
11:25 <Cepheid> This is apparently taking the best ideas from that, fixing up old ideas, and then making an entirely new mod out of it.
11:28 <Cepheid> It's supposed to be released tomorrow, apparently, so... I can't really comment on it.
11:30 <ConfusionRift> I know Krastorio Legacy broke a lot of things. Took a while to get running, and was interesting to mess with.
11:38 * Cepheid graghs as he keels over, exhausted.
11:39 <Cepheid> I slept for 10 hours yesterday, why do I feel so exhausted?
11:41 <Cepheid> Probably the lung thing.
11:42 <ConfusionRift> Could be that. Your body still fighting that off.
11:42 <Cepheid> I have a fever. 99.5
11:43 <ConfusionRift> Yeeeaaah, fever doesn't help.
11:44 * Cepheid puts on Tearless Challenger.
11:45 <Cepheid> So, figure out the Prison yet?
11:46 <ConfusionRift> Not exactly. Was fumbling a bit and checking other things.
11:47 <Cepheid> Fair enough.
11:47 <Cepheid> There's still other stuff for you to do, I think, after all.
11:53 <ConfusionRift> Hearing Fearless Challenger with a similar soundfont to Touhou sounds kinda weird.
11:54 <Cepheid> Heh.
11:57 <ConfusionRift> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS7NYfizOw4 Sounds good, but which they used the TFIV soundfont for it. :P
11:57 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
11:57 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Inferno - La-Mulana | Sega Genesis Remix
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12:04 <Cepheid> heh.
12:08 <Cepheid> According to my mother, I sound like *YAY*.
12:08 <Cepheid> My voice sounds fine to me, but then again..
12:09 <Cepheid> I'm probably going to end up at a hospital or clinic in the next day or two, probably. More because my mother insists than because I get worse.
12:09 <Cepheid> Personally, I'd rather not go. But that's more just because right now, hospitals are busy dealing with actual problems.
12:10 <Cepheid> That, and I don't want people getting friggen paranoid around me.
12:12 * Cepheid coughs up a lung. It's not a human lung.
12:12 * ConfusionRift pokes at it with a stick. "...burn it!"
12:14 * Cepheid stands over it, pulls out the Djed Pillar, and chants all the mantras.
12:14 * Cepheid promptly falls over dead.
12:15 <Cepheid> Seriously, that's what happens when you do that in LM2. Don't do it.
12:15 <Cepheid> It's like putting on that cursed necklace in Ys.
12:15 <ConfusionRift> You just... fall flat?
12:15 <Cepheid> Your health drops to 0, you die.
12:16 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, you fall flat then. :P
12:16 <Cepheid> That said, there's an interesting bug associated with it.
12:16 <Cepheid> If you do it while holding onto a ladder(You have to press left or right first before it'll let you use items), your health will hit zero, but you won't die.
12:16 <Cepheid> It only registers your death whenever you touch a flat surface.
12:17 <Cepheid> So you can climb up and down that ladder with zero health. Moment you step on a surface though, you die.
12:19 <Heartbreak> Please don't lick me, PrincessRainbows. Also, response hours later.
12:22 <ConfusionRift> Cepheid: I think you mean "feature" and not bug. :P
12:22 <ConfusionRift> That response from them still gets me.
12:26 <Cepheid> Heh.
12:27 <Cepheid> I plan to make an optional puzzle, that directly references Naramura specifically, in the form of "This puzzle is for Naramura's eyes only." or something. It's going to be a puzzle designed with the sole intent of annoying the hell out of him.
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12:28 * Filly_Nightmares curls up against Heartbreak
12:28 * Filly_Nightmares yawnskrees
12:28 * Lumindia pets surry
12:28 <Lumindia> <3
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12:30 <ConfusionRift> That would be so evil. Making a puzzle that directly references the Hell Temple, but you leave no clues for it, except a hint of its existence.
12:30 * Filly_Nightmares noses into Lumindia
12:30 * Lumindia licks Surry's cheek
12:33 <Cepheid> Or leave deliberately misleading hints. And a puzzle that looks like it should be solved one way, but is solved in a completely unrelated manner.
12:33 <Cepheid> A deliberately "broken" puzzle.
12:34 <Cepheid> It should be obvious that it's solved in one specific way, and possibly have hints implying that specific way, but then, contradictorily, that method just doesn't work.
12:35 <Cepheid> And at the end of the puzzle? "Some fool created a puzzle that could not be solved. Oh, no, wait, according to the notes here, the puzzle worked, but then broke, and he decided not to fix it."
12:35 <ConfusionRift> "Those before you are but liars. Every lock has a key, and its elusiveness will leave outsiders in anger."
12:36 <Cepheid> Legitimately, I am going to do at least one puzzle that references the broken puzzles of the original LM, and LM2.
12:37 <Cepheid> The rest though, I'm going to try and do a psychological analysis of Naramura, somehow, and design puzzles that'll tick him off.
12:37 <ConfusionRift> I would so leave a tablet/writing somewhere in there saying "You just hate to see it".
12:37 <Cepheid> The reward for getting it? A costume of the rough approximation of what I think Naramura looks like.
12:38 <Cepheid> I'd do his slime from LM1, but I suspect he'd have a problem with that if I didn't ask first.
12:39 <ConfusionRift> Hmmm... now I'm getting that urge to work on that game I was working on before. Too bad I barely remember a thing.
12:40 <Cepheid> You'd have an easier time than me, at least.
12:40 <Cepheid> I'm writing the engine from scratch, which has.... consequences.
12:46 <ConfusionRift> Still thinking about it. RPG Maker works well for like storyboarding and more linear stuff, but Pixel Game Maker is more complex and works better for sidescrollers and top view games. It's about the learning and putting time into it.
12:58 <ConfusionRift> ...huh. Interesting.
12:58 <ConfusionRift> Just how there's a furless cat and dog, there are some scaleless reptiles out there.
13:00 <Cepheid> Yep.
13:07 <Cepheid> ... Sheesh.
13:08 <Cepheid> I implemented an optimized version of collision detection. Improvement was in the range of nearly 200 times faster.
13:09 <ConfusionRift> Heh.
13:10 <Cepheid> I can still do better.
13:12 <Cepheid> SAT is fast, but still expensive compared to simpler tests.
13:12 <Cepheid> I can start by doing a simpler test, like a simple box-box test, and only doing the SAT if that test passes.
13:16 <Cepheid> Just improved it a bit more.
13:18 <Cepheid> Currently, attempting to handle 10 entities takes up only...
13:19 <Cepheid> 3.9% of the frametime.
13:20 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUCW-7h27u0 Heh. I forgot about this.
13:20 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about S.S.H - Castlevania - Travel Demon
13:30 * PrincessRainbows flops on ConfusionRift and whinnies
13:31 * ConfusionRift patpats PrincessRainbows.
13:32 * PrincessRainbows also barks. Is good horse
14:02 <Cepheid> I made someone on reddit throw a fit. Not because of an argument, but because I told them how university and college works here, with respect to fees. They're overseas from us, where things are different and somewhat more affordable.
14:03 <Cepheid> They could not believe some of the stuff I said.
14:04 <Cepheid> For them, each semester is a one-time payment of ~600 euros. When I explained that we pay for each course individually, and that the costs go up to ~$1,400 or more, and that there are also incidental fees of about $600 to $700, they refused to believe it.
14:05 <ConfusionRift> Sounds about right. Higher level classes are far more expensive, bumping that further more. On top of having to pay for books and materials still, and other side costs that they feel like shafting you with.
14:06 <Cepheid> The cost of the courses isn't related to their level. It's just related to what the university thinks it's worth, in this case.
14:07 <Cepheid> Business classes, for example, go for $2,000 or more a piece, because business-oriented classes are their biggest seller.
14:17 <ConfusionRift> Same as the IT one for the master's. Actually... i think they were more expensive.
14:21 <ConfusionRift> Either way, yes. It's expensive, and gets worse as you go.
14:24 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Poll Results: What Other Path Would You Have Picked for Starlight Instead of Headmaster? [ http://tinyurl.com/tjwqe9t ]
14:24 <Cepheid> I'm gonna go lay down.
14:25 <ConfusionRift> Same. It's late... or early. Really early. Laters!
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15:11 <Cepheid> http://losingisfun.com/ oh my god.
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17:24 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: 3 Page iTunes Preview for My Little Pony Comic #88 [ http://tinyurl.com/qnd42fb ]
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20:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3277 [ http://tinyurl.com/v6tdrnt ]
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21:53 <Schism> Yawnle.
21:54 * Lumindia fires the gatherer's bazooka at Schism
21:56 * Schism drops 20 pieces of chicken, 10 pieces of thyme, 20 popotoes, and 20 pieces of lemon.
22:03 <Lumindia> welp okay
22:03 <Lumindia> I have to choose between Food and Gas
22:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: PrinceWhateverer - Old Phantoms [ http://tinyurl.com/s4bgj4c ]
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22:08 *** ChanServ sets mode: +qo Ali Ali
22:09 * Ali licks the Schism nosie
22:10 * Schism boops the Ali with some peppered steak (black pepper, that is), yams, beans, and carrots.
22:11 * Ali noms Schism nosie instead
22:11 * Schism is not a ling made of food, ish merely a foodling.
22:13 <Ali> Youz ish nummy to me either way.
22:15 * Schism grumps. Ish as tasty as Ali ish cute, he supposes.
22:17 <Ali> Probably
22:25 <PinkieShy> I'm back :3
22:25 <PinkieShy> Went to take a nap for a bit..
22:25 <PinkieShy> Didn't help much.
22:26 * Ali nibbles on PinkieShy
22:27 * PinkieShy hands Ali a Sausage biscuit
22:27 * Ali boops PinkieShy back, pony has already been passed so much food by the foodling
22:28 <PinkieShy> Haha :D
22:29 * Ali rolls around PinkieShy and Schism
22:29 * Lumindia licks Ali's cheek
22:29 <Lumindia> Mlem
22:29 * Ali licks Lumindia back
22:31 * Lumindia snuggles Ali, dotes on lots
22:32 * Ali nibbles on
22:35 * Schism provides the PinkieShy and the Ali with some pomegranate-swirled vanilla cupcakes!
22:36 <PinkieShy> oh speaking of food.. I learned the other day.. Pickle slices on my chicken sandwich at chick-fil-a is actually.. good :3
22:36 <PinkieShy> Last two times i went there i got it with pickles and liked it.
22:37 * Ali icks
22:37 <Schism> That, my dear PinkieShy, is because Chik-Fil-A's recipe already adds a bit of pickle juice to their breading.
22:37 <Schism> In fact, I would be happy to provide you with one of many recipes so that you can never go there, ever again.
22:37 * Ali doesn't like pickles
22:37 <PinkieShy> Schism Nah that's okay :P If i need it ever I'll ask :3
22:38 <Schism> Well, alright. Though it's also helpful if you want to have Chik-Fil-A-esque sandwiches on a Sunday.
22:38 <Schism> (You may have noted a certain hostility in my tone. I assure you, that is not imagination.)
22:38 <Ali> Doth thou not liketh them?
22:39 <Schism> I am singularly unappreciative of their management.
22:42 <Schism> And that's all I shall say.
22:47 * Ali nods and licks Schism nosie
22:48 * Schism provides Ali with a handcrafted buttermilk biscuit, topped with sausage gravy and a goodly amount of black pepper!
22:48 * Ali isn't hungry, she ate before she came online!
22:48 * Lumindia continues to dote on Ali
22:48 <Lumindia> ♥
22:49 * Schism passes Lumindia a mane-brushing set.
22:49 * Lumindia accepts, brushie brushie brushies Ali
22:49 * Ali leans into brushies so much
22:53 <Lumindia> Ali ish soft
22:53 * Ali nod nods
22:59 * Lumindia gives a kiss on the snoot
22:59 <Lumindia> ' w'
23:01 <Schism> Welp, if I'm gonna be in Ul'dah for a bit...
23:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend - Equestria Girls / Anthro MLP Art Gallery #177 [ http://tinyurl.com/w8e6ptc ]
23:06 * Lumindia nibbles on Schism
23:06 <Lumindia> o wo
23:12 <Schism> owo;;;
23:20 <Schism> Yaaay, event in a few minutes.
23:21 <Schism> Ishgard Reconstruction, Lumin.
23:21 <Starlight_Glimmer> Homeoffice it is
23:21 <Starlight_Glimmer> Until further notice me and my coworkers are working from home
23:21 <Lumindia> well, on your server maybe
23:22 <Lumindia> o wo
23:22 * Lumindia brushes GlimGlam SO MUCH
23:22 * Starlight_Glimmer licks Lumindia
23:22 <PinkieShy> .. People are taking that Coronavirus thing a bit far now.
23:24 <Starlight_Glimmer> It's a good test to see how things are going to work out before things get serious
23:25 * PinkieShy boops Starlight_Glimmer's horn
23:29 * Ali boops Starlight_Glimmer's butt
23:31 * PinkieShy sips red grape juice
23:31 <Starlight_Glimmer> How suggestive!
23:31 <Starlight_Glimmer> Naughty Ali is naughty
23:32 * Ali pat pats the Starlight_Glimmer
23:35 <PinkieShy> what the... How in the....
23:35 * Starlight_Glimmer snuggles into Ali's flank
23:36 * Ali pony purrs and pat pats the Starlight_Glimmer
23:36 <Starlight_Glimmer> Going to visit family over the weekend
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23:46 * Lumindia pulls both the mares into a snuggle
23:46 * Lumindia makes a ponypile
23:51 <Lumindia> I know people often observe a collective moment of silence, but what if we all scheduled a moment to scream at the same time?
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