00:00 * Jackie pets FruitNibbler
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00:24 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Community Soapbox - The Young Six Were a Good Addition, Richest Mane 6, and More! [ http://tinyurl.com/yx3olqwj ]
00:31 <Golden> Bluh
00:42 <Golden> Wish that IRCCloud's phone app would stop with the not responding stuff
00:49 <Golden> So how is everyone?
01:24 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Convention Artist/Vendor Relief [ http://tinyurl.com/w7un7rx ]
02:04 <ADragonDreaming> I am
02:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #2058 [ http://tinyurl.com/u5rmfgb ]
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02:30 <Golden> Hm
02:31 <Schism> Welp. Just introduced someone to the ORIGINAL version of La-Mulana. But I also provided forewarning.
03:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Fanfic Music: Heartsong - Cloudsbane [Orchestral/Soundtrack] [ http://tinyurl.com/s8y7kp5 ]
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05:29 <Finwe> Good morning, everypony!
05:30 <Finwe> Messrs Cepheid, Golden, Lumindia, PinkieShy and Schism; Mlles Ali, DashedRainbows and Sleeping_Nightmares.
05:30 * Finwe doffs his hat.
05:30 * Ali flops over Finwe
05:30 * Golden waves
05:31 * Finwe noms on yoghurt and cranberries.
05:31 * PrincessRainbows licks Finwe and makes excited little filly noises
05:32 * Finwe ruffles PrincessRainbows.
05:32 <PrincessRainbows> I leveled up my photo editing skill
05:34 * PrincessRainbows paints an Ali on Finwe's coat
05:36 * Finwe is decorated with a picture of a cute unicorn. o3o
05:37 * PrincessRainbows claps her hooves and curls up with her blankie and pacifier
05:37 <PrincessRainbows> Nini
05:38 <Finwe> !clop
05:38 * DerpyBot clops her forehooves together excitedly
05:38 <DerpyBot> ..what?
05:44 * Golden flops. A headache is driving him crazy, and is a bit tired.
06:02 * Ali isn't cute
06:06 <Golden> ???
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06:33 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
06:34 <Golden> Hey
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06:35 <Golden> My headache is keeping me up
06:36 <ConfusionRift> bLARG.
06:37 <ConfusionRift> Oh, caps. (shrugs)
06:42 <PinkieShy> Thought this channel had it setup so you couldn't do a message if a certain percentage of the message is caps. :P
06:43 * ConfusionRift shrugs. "Have no idea. It might be because I'm an op?"
06:43 <ConfusionRift> Either way, not intentional.
06:46 * Ali flops over ConfusionRift
06:48 * ConfusionRift patpats Ali.
06:48 <PinkieShy> I gotta go to bed..
06:48 <PinkieShy> Gotta finish the yard work I started Saturday.. We did the front yard being so big
06:49 <PinkieShy> And The back yard is all that is left.. I don't do stuff like that on a Sunday Never.. Anyways :P Good Night!
06:49 * PinkieShy hugs everybody and says Stay safe :)
06:49 <ConfusionRift> Have a good one!
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06:49 <ConfusionRift> Uuurgh... paaaaaiiiiiinnnnaaaaaaahhhhh.
06:52 * Ali curls under the ConfusionRift
06:57 <Golden> Imma try to sleep...
06:58 * ConfusionRift lightly pats Golden.
06:59 <Golden> I just hope I'm not coming down with....ya know
07:02 <ConfusionRift> Shouldn't be the case.
07:03 <Golden> I know, but this headache has been with me all day.
07:07 * ConfusionRift shrugs. "Dunno. Weather's been wacky as of late, but that's over here. Not sure about over there."
07:14 <Golden> It's been pretty consistent
07:14 <ConfusionRift> Might also be a stress thing.
07:21 <Golden> Maybe
07:47 <Golden> Someone cast Kasnooze on me....I can't fall asleep
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07:49 <ConfusionRift> Zippitty zooooom! You'll soon get to snoooze!
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07:50 <Golden> Thanks. Gonna try now to sleep.
07:51 <Golden> Night
07:51 <ConfusionRift> Have a good one!
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08:32 * Ali rolls around ConfusionRift
08:38 * ConfusionRift rolls around with Ali. :P
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09:03 * Ali noms on ConfusionRift tail
09:03 <ConfusionRift> :P
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09:19 * Ali rolls around RazorSharpFang and ConfusionRift
09:20 <RazorSharpFang> Hello
09:26 * Ali has things to do's in the morn so she flops off to the beds.
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09:32 <RazorSharpFang> Soon I'll be working from home due to coronavirus.
09:33 <ConfusionRift> Oh. Guessing closing the locale?
09:35 <RazorSharpFang> Well, I guess software development can be done anywhere with power and a good internet connection.
09:37 * PrincessRainbows clutches her plushie and makes grabby hooves at ConfusionRift
09:38 <ConfusionRift> Well, mostly yeah. Wasn't sure what this job was.
09:38 * ConfusionRift grabs and pets PrincessRainbows.
09:40 * PrincessRainbows giggles and licks
09:48 * PrincessRainbows grabs her pacifier and blankie and curls up again
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10:05 <Cepheid> Morning.
10:05 <Schism> G'morning.
10:05 <ConfusionRift> Hey there.
10:05 <Schism> I just realized that the reason the Handler set up shop right by the Canteen is so that she can take lessons from the Meowscular Chef.
10:05 <Cepheid> Yeh. Software dev can be done from home no problem. Or anywhere else for that matter.
10:07 <Cepheid> And arguably, if you have, and know how to use manpages, you don't even need an Internet connection.
10:08 <Schism> Eh, kinda. Big group projects, not so much, unless you have a good manager delegating the important tasks responsibly.
10:10 <Schism> I'm imagining ten thousand conflicting gits.
10:11 <Schism> Cepheid: I may have used up a lot of karma yesterday.
10:12 <Cepheid> Oh?
10:13 <Schism> There is a particular artist who is a fan of retro gaming (and whose works are somewhat NSFW, so I shan't be linking them here). I let her know that there's a wonderful MSX-styled game out there which is tough as nails.
10:15 <Cepheid> <Matt Mercer Impersonation> Oh No.
10:15 <Schism> I did apply all the appropriate warnings before linking it, though.
10:17 <Cepheid> You are still an arsehole. Much as I would like to see others playing it, convincing others to play it is an arsehole move. Warnings or not.
10:17 <Schism> Hence my statement about using up a lot of karma. In my limited defense, it didn't take a lot of convincing.
10:18 <Schism> I basically said, "hey, there's an MSX-ish game out there for free," and she said yes.
10:19 <Schism> I did ask if she'd ever seen Maze of Galious before I linked it.
10:20 <Schism> I may have also made a statement about it compressing one's mind into a single point of space, too.
10:21 <Lumindia> four days
10:21 * Schism eyebrows at Lumindia.
10:22 <Lumindia> rip and tear
10:22 <Lumindia> until it is done
10:22 <Schism> This sounds like an excellent initiative for a group project. Now, to what do you refer exactly?
10:22 <Lumindia> DOOM, you fool!
10:23 * ConfusionRift gives Schism a side by side sawed off shotgun. "Kill demons!"
10:23 <Lumindia> oh, and animal crossing, I guess
10:23 <ConfusionRift> Heeeeeey. :P
10:23 <Schism> Oh, of course. Animal DOOMing. Whereby you equip your villager with a sawed-off shotgun and go out to kill the evil demon Tom Nook.
10:23 <Lumindia> :P
10:23 <Lumindia> "The only thing they fear is you" *cut to a shot of Tom Nook*
10:24 * ConfusionRift looks at the developers. "Please, make that a thing."
10:24 <Schism> Considering, I'm pretty sure there's probably a DOOM mod of that nature out there.
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10:30 <Lumindia> replace the collactables in Doom '16 with isabelle plushes
10:31 <ConfusionRift> That's one of the things I was thinking. Or a special secret collectible that looks sorta like Isabelle. Well, we know Nintendo isn't gonna allow her full likeness in Doom.
10:31 <Schism> That's not the kind of ablative armour I particularly want.
10:31 <Cepheid> There will be a mod. Guaranteed. Both ways. Especially if Nintendo drops the ball on a collaboration. I don't think their marketing team fully understands the consequences.
10:32 <Schism> Animal Crossing x DOOM is a pretty hard sell to marketing, though.
10:32 <ConfusionRift> Doom Guy as a villager in AC, and Isabelle as an ally in Doom. :P
10:32 <Cepheid> They legitimately don't understand what would happen if they did a collab.
10:33 <Schism> Yes, but communicating that this would bring them 'all the sales' is a bit tricky.
10:33 <Cepheid> It's as if they don't want to make more money.
10:33 <Cepheid> Such is marketing. Small brains. All of them.
10:34 <Schism> Admittedly, the ESRB and PEGI might be a bit put off by that, on Nintendo's end.
10:35 <Cepheid> Make promises that us devs could never keep, give themselves pats on the back for their extra sales due to impossible sales. Blame us for their f-up when we can't achieve their goals despite repeated thesises saying why we can't do it.
10:35 <Schism> Yes, that's the way of the world right now.
10:35 <Schism> "Product did not meet expectations." [gives self $100 million bonus]
10:36 <Cepheid> So long as the marine in Animal Crossing isn't carrying a gun, I see no reason the ESRB or PEGI would care.
10:36 <Cepheid> Just needs to be a pop-styled doom marine. Visual-only. No weapons or special lines.
10:37 <Cepheid> No implied violence, etc.
10:37 <Cepheid> In doom? Just a squeaky Isabelle pop figurine. Like the doom figurines.
10:38 <Cepheid> That's it. That's all that would be needed to appease the crowds. Any implied violence and such is due to the fanbases.
10:40 <Schism> Fair nuff.
10:40 <Schism> Though one might say that the presence of a DOOM Marine would imply violence... eh, we're getting into too much. Also, I've now apologized to the artist.
10:40 <Schism> And explained things a little better.
10:41 <Cepheid> Yeah, but that won't affect the ESRB.
10:41 <Cepheid> And you can't argue its about introducing kids to the DOOM series in a "family friendly" console. The bloody game is coming to the Switch in the future.
10:42 <ConfusionRift> You know the effect of a sad scene if completely gone when you start laughing instead.
10:42 <Cepheid> Plus these same kids likely will see the commercials anyway.
10:43 <ConfusionRift> There are plenty of violent games on the Switch. And should I point out... (points at Bayonetta) THAT is on the Switch, and is a Smash Bros. character.
10:43 <Cepheid> Yep.
10:43 <ConfusionRift> Sooo... but still. We know how it is. So, dreams for now.
10:43 <Cepheid> So really, Nintendo is just ****ing themselves over. Shooting themselves in the foot.
10:44 <ConfusionRift> In my case, it would be nice. If it's not, it won't affect anything. Still getting both. :P
10:44 <Schism> With a BFG. Ah well, that's all true. Also, I suspect that the ESRB and PEGI are not going to be long for the world anyway...
10:44 <Cepheid> https://youtu.be/qsjHbxVI3EI
10:45 <Cepheid> I'd like to get DOOM Eternal, but I already spent my 80 dollars for the month.
10:45 <Cepheid> I'll need to wait for my tax return.
10:46 <Cepheid> That, or hope that inexplicably people start donating money for development of my game. But that money is meant to go towards a new computer chair first.
10:46 <Schism> I'd need to get a much better video card before I do that.
10:46 <Schism> And a new chair wouldn't hurt either. Plus, we need to buy a new couch, and... I should really get an SSD for my OS.
10:47 * Schism sighs. "And probably update to Windows 10 in the meantime."
10:47 <Cepheid> Probably won't need to. If it has Vulkan support, which is likely, it'll work on Windows 7
10:49 <Cepheid> DOOM 2016 supports Vulkan these days, and I assume an updated version of it's engine is in use. So toll have Vulkan out the door.
10:49 <Cepheid> As for video card...
10:49 <Cepheid> What graphics settings preset do you play MHWorld on?
10:54 <Schism> High. But not the highest.
10:55 <Cepheid> You can play DOOM Eternal.
10:57 <Cepheid> The engine is extremely optimized. I ran DOOM 2016 on a GTX 970, at 60+ FPS. That same GTX 970 ran MHWorld at High settings 30-45 FPS.
11:03 <Schism> One begins to wonder if companies are inflating their 'minimum' stats, partly because it's a good way to CYA, and in part because they have an agreement with graphics card manufacturers.
11:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1873 [ http://tinyurl.com/qvgkjfv ]
11:06 <Cepheid> https://i.redd.it/m6d83fjscxm41.jpg
11:07 <Cepheid> Schism, it is well known that companies are paid by video card manufacturers to optimize for certain cards. Thats the whole "Way its meant to be played" campaign by nVidia, for example.
11:08 * Finwe noms on Cepheid's GPU.
11:08 <Schism> Yeah, and that really causes my teeth to grind.
11:08 <Cepheid> The reality is that the engines use manufacturer-specific extensions in OpenGL, DirectX, Metal and Vulkan.
11:09 <Schism> I was thinking of something a little bit more... venal.
11:09 <Cepheid> Honestly I kind of wish Khronos had grown a pair and said "no GPU-exclusive extensions"
11:09 <Cepheid> But then we wouldn't have Vulkan on top.
11:09 <Schism> Specifically, getting companies to inflate their minimal specs in order to sell more mid-end video cards.
11:09 <Cepheid> Khronos won this API war this time.
11:10 <Schism> Thus taking the 'killer app' to its logical conclusion.
11:10 <Cepheid> DX12 is seeing adoption, but it is so incredibly slow to be adopted it isn't funny.
11:10 <Cepheid> And yeah, I know what you mean.
11:10 <Schism> I imagine Microsoft aren't making that any easier on their end.
11:11 <Cepheid> I mean, between the two, on Windows, DX12 does tend to come out on top, by only a small margin though. The other half of the problem is that it is limited to a specific OS.
11:12 <Cepheid> That said, Vulkan hasn't really overtaken OpenGL and DX9/10/11 yet because of the fact that DX12, Metal, and Vulkan are trickier to use.
11:13 <Cepheid> If used right though, they offer serious performance improvements. Not just in terms of FPS.
11:14 <Cepheid> MHWorld on my PC for example, stutters if I use the original renderer, still. DX12 renderer, all stuttering is gone.
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11:15 <Cepheid> Aaahhhhhhhhhh!
11:15 <Schism> Mmm.
11:15 <Schism> Aha. Folding@home researchers have requested that folks download a new app for the sake of Coronavirus studies. It works in the same way.
11:16 <Cepheid> I was drinking sparkling lemonade. I burped and it sent a bunch up into my nose.
11:16 <Schism> Oh, I hate that.
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11:18 <Vulpor> Hey everyone I hope you all are safe
11:19 <Finwe> Mr Vulpor.
11:19 * Finwe doffs his hat.
11:19 <Vulpor> Hey there Finwe hope your doing well
11:21 <Cepheid> About as safe as I can be given my health, and family situation.
11:23 <Schism> Safe, sane, and utterly invincible.
11:23 <Vulpor> I am too it's getting crazy out there
11:23 <Schism> That doesn't mean I'm not going to be protecting those around me, though.
11:23 <Cepheid> Only because people are stockpiling the wrong things.
11:23 <Schism> Toilet paper. For the love of Eris.
11:24 <Vulpor> Toilet paper i not the cure
11:24 <Vulpor> Niether is hand sanitizer
11:24 <Cepheid> Though hand sanitizer helps.
11:24 <Schism> We've got tons of soap over on this end. The shelves might be clear of hand sanitizer, but soap? Soap is still rightly available.
11:25 <Cepheid> It's good for people who aren't able to regularly wash their hands, like my dad when he's at work.
11:25 <Schism> That's why I took my bottle of Purell to work, yes.
11:25 <Vulpor> I really just hope I can still get married in April
11:25 <Cepheid> My dad's an on-call tech. He goes around to people's homes, workplaces, and the like, and does repairs.
11:26 <Cepheid> His employer hasn't caught onto the fact that this is probably a Bad Idea(TM).
11:26 <Vulpor> I work for Wal Mart and we are closing at 11 every night
11:27 <Schism> Bertelsmann might be closing up shop, which is a problem, because while I can work from home, there's a difference between 'can' and 'can do so within the client's limitations'.
11:27 <Vulpor> the only real comfort I have is I do think the best minds are fighting this thing
11:27 <Schism> The private sector, anyway.
11:27 <Cepheid> Hmm. Bug in texture loading. Loading RGBA texture in reverse component order.
11:28 <Schism> Also, congratulations on your engagement!
11:28 <Vulpor> Thanks Schism
11:28 <Schism> Sucks that this snuck up on you two, but yeah.
11:29 <Vulpor> Well no we are not sick if we have to we will do it quick most of the guests are local
11:29 <Schism> Hum. Ohio shut down large gatherings. I think bars are closed now.
11:30 <Schism> I forget, are you in Ohio?
11:30 <Finwe> We currently have a ban on events with over 500 participants.
11:30 <Vulpor> stock up on booze now then!
11:30 <Vulpor> Nope south carolina
11:30 <Schism> Oh, I'm not in Ohio, and the LCBO has generously provided lots of hand sanitizer for all their employees. Not that I'm sure that'll help when everyone flooded the stores on St. Patty's Day.
11:30 <Vulpor> So far only 3 cases
11:31 <Finwe> Denmark closed borders last week, and I think that Estonia is going to do the same this week.
11:31 <Schism> Or rather, the weekend preceding it.
11:31 <Schism> Finwe: The Norwegian Institute of Science and Technology offered a very strongly-worded request for students to return ASAP.
11:31 <Vulpor> I asked a doctor if this is like a year long thing or just 4 months
11:32 <Schism> And then to stay home.
11:32 <Finwe> Finland, Sweden and Norway still allow travelling.
11:32 <Vulpor> And they said 4 months are more likely
11:32 <Finwe> Yup.
11:32 <Schism> Yerp.
11:32 <Schism> "This applies especially if you are staying in a country with poorly developed health services and infrastructure and/or collective infrastructure, for example the USA."
11:32 <Finwe> o3o
11:33 <Vulpor> Which means my fiance's birthday is going to be awesome
11:33 <Schism> I love the flavour of that statement, but I'm not quite sure if it's entirely snark, outrage, or commisseration.
11:33 <Vulpor> July 15th
11:33 <Cepheid> *Code is telling me that the PNG is ARGB. Code is treating image data as ARGB. Is actually ABGR.*
11:33 <ConfusionRift> ...
11:33 <Schism> ... the hell kind of images are you working with?
11:34 <Vulpor> I am actively not watching tv
11:34 <Vulpor> I got Netflix and Hulu
11:34 <Cepheid> Microsoft's PNG loader. It doesn't really differentiate between ARGB and ABGR.
11:34 <Vulpor> and Disney Plus
11:34 <Cepheid> The only reason I didn't notice this until now is because up until now, I had not been using any images that weren't grayscale.
11:34 <Schism> That's kind of a strong differentiation.
11:35 <Schism> Oh.
11:35 <Vulpor> I'll check in once a week if I see sports ball playing I am fine
11:35 <Cepheid> Fortunately, it's a quick fix.
11:35 <Vulpor> I know we are fine rather
11:36 <Schism> Cepheid: Yeah, flip the right bytes depending on the metadata.
11:36 <Vulpor> In the meantime I got Cheers and Scienfeld and a new season of Castlevania
11:36 * Schism thinks. "Could this be a case of FIFO versus LIFO?"
11:37 <Finwe> A queue or a stack, that is the question.
11:37 <Finwe> Schism: Or a heap?
11:38 <Schism> I was mostly thinking more about efficiency there.
11:38 <Schism> Which, yeah.
11:39 <Cepheid> ...
11:39 <Cepheid> Riiiight, this is confusing.
11:39 <Schism> Implementation of foreign protocols usually is.
11:39 <Cepheid> The byte data loaded by the PNG loader is actually BGRA. It's labeled as ARGB in the enumeration. MonoGame expects RGBA. It labels it as ARGB.
11:40 <Cepheid> Oh, I know why.
11:40 <Cepheid> It's because it's referencing endianness.
11:40 <Schism> Ah. So you're not dealing with weird code, you're dealing with poor documentation.
11:40 <Koopz> https://xkcd.com/2280/
11:40 <Cepheid> As an unsigned integer, yeah, it'll see the value as ABGR.
11:40 <Schism> Or both.
11:40 <Cepheid> Since the lowest 8 bits are A, next 8 bits is B, next 8, G, next 8, R.
11:40 <Cepheid> But if I read the array as a byte array, and then index the next 4 bytes in sequence..
11:40 <Cepheid> It's R, G, B, A.
11:40 <Schism> ... what...
11:41 <Cepheid> Endianness is funky.
11:41 <Cepheid> To explain it in simple terms..
11:41 <Schism> I do know FORTH, I am familiar with the idea.
11:41 <Cepheid> You know how our digit grouping is MMM,TTT,HHH, for Millions, Thousands and Hundreds?
11:41 <Schism> Yes, that reads it as HHH,TTT,MMM.
11:41 <Cepheid> Endianness reads it similarly to how we do numbers.
11:42 <Cepheid> Or rather, little-endianness does.
11:42 <Finwe> Most significant bit first.
11:42 <Cepheid> Oh, right.
11:42 * ConfusionRift stops messing with maps and such.
11:42 <Cepheid> It's big-endian that does the same format. Sorry.
11:43 <Cepheid> Basically, in big-endian, the most significant digit comes first.
11:43 <Schism> Yes, and counter-intuitively, little-endian notation starts with the least significant digit and goes from there.
11:43 <Cepheid> So it's like writing a natural number. The most significant digit comes first. For a number like 1000, that'd be the 1.
11:43 <Cepheid> Little endian is the reverse.
11:43 <Cepheid> It would be like writing 1000 as 0001, instead.
11:45 <Finwe> Endianness refers to where the end of the number lies in address space.
11:45 <Cepheid> I'm a little tired, Finwe, I made a mistake. I owned up to it, please don't add to it. :P
11:45 <Finwe> Big endian numbers are written straight and so the end of the number ends in higher address than the start of the number.
11:45 <Finwe> And little endian is reverse of this.
11:45 <Cepheid> Anyways, point is, the system reads the four RGBA bytes as ABGR because of endianness stuff.
11:45 <Cepheid> Finwe.
11:46 <Cepheid> You ever get the idea that when you continue on like that over a mistake someone makes, that you're actually embarassing/agitating them more?
11:46 <Schism> I would imagine that little-endian numbers would be more efficient for systems like banking, but that can't possibly apply to games, outside of the A value.
11:47 <Cepheid> There's actually no functional performance difference between little and big endian, as far as I know.
11:47 <Schism> Graphics-wise, anyway.
11:47 <Cepheid> To the point that some platforms implement both, with a switch to change between them.
11:47 <Cepheid> ARM is a big one in that area.
11:47 <Cepheid> It can be set to little- or big- endian mode.
11:47 <Cepheid> There's even a variation called middle-endian for some gods-inexplicable reason.
11:48 <Schism> Cepheid: for banking, lots of small transactions can add up to a performance difference, and most customers only do small transactions.
11:48 <Cepheid> Yeah, but the underlying CPU doesn't know the difference between a small and a large number.
11:48 <Finwe> The 'Murrican date format is middle-endian.
11:48 <Cepheid> Outside of word sizes.
11:48 <Finwe> Least significant part in the middle.
11:49 <Schism> Mm. It's admittedly complicated and not the point of this conversation anyway.
11:49 <Cepheid> If you add two 32-bit integers, it's still going to do ripple-carry over all 32 bits, even if only 10 of them are of any significance.
11:49 <Cepheid> If you want to reduce that, you can use a smaller word size, but even then, most processors just load smaller word sizes into 32-bit or 64-bit registers and perform full additions.
11:50 <Cepheid> Simply because it's easier to do than implementing separate instructions for different word sizes.
11:50 <Cepheid> And, in many cases, faster.
11:50 <Finwe> Ah, the terminology comes from Jonathan Swift's book Gulliver's Travels (1726).
11:51 <Cepheid> There'd also probably be no functional performance benefits anyways, because the addition logic is implemented in hardware. You can't get any faster, unless a new algorithm comes out that's faster, and can be implemented in hardware.
11:51 <Cepheid> That said, other operations are different.
11:51 <Cepheid> Subtraction's as fast as addition. Division and multiplication are slow, though.
11:52 <Cepheid> And floating-point mathematics is even slower.
11:52 <Cepheid> So, when designing algorithms, you generally want to avoid floating-point mathematics, and multiplication or division.
11:52 <Cepheid> Multiplication and division can be avoided in one special case, though.
11:53 <Cepheid> Division and multiplication by powers of two.
11:53 <Cepheid> This is because bit shifting is usually implemented in hardware, and shifting left or right by N bits is a multiplication or division by 2^N.
11:53 <Cepheid> And bit shifting is *FAST*
11:55 <Cepheid> An instruction to multiply 2 by say, 16, would take several times longer than shifting 2 to the left by 4.
11:56 <Schism> To unpack that, bit shifting is two operations. When we refer to gigaflops, that means that a CPU can perform literally a billion of those per second.
11:57 <Schism> Shift one byte to 0, shift the other to 1.
11:58 <Schism> (Of course, there are other operations in the meantime, but that's roughly what it means.)
11:58 <Cepheid> Bit shifting is one operation. It usually involves two registers, one containing the value 2, the other containing the value 16. The result is stored usually in one of the two registers.
11:59 <Cepheid> Multiplication is also one operation.
11:59 <Cepheid> The problem is that the logic behind the two are completely different.
11:59 <Cepheid> The number of cycles each operation takes is different. Multiplication can be, say, 8 or 9 cycles. While a bitshift is 1 cycle.
12:02 <Schism> I really need to read The Art of Computer Programming all the way through...
12:02 <Cepheid> Don't trust that for modern-day computational stuff.
12:03 <Cepheid> I mean, it's good for algorithmic efficiency.
12:03 <Schism> Oh, I know. Knuth actually sidestepped that by making up his own computer.
12:03 <Cepheid> But it uses an artificial system which doesn't actually exist, and has certain traits intentionally to prove algorithms.
12:03 <Cepheid> Dangit, monogame.
12:03 <Cepheid> It doesn't take into account OS scaling.
12:04 <Schism> Useful, but not situationally.
12:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Rarity Has Been Added to Fifteen.ai [ http://tinyurl.com/uoovmj8 ]
12:06 <Cepheid> I got my OS scaling set to 200%, so 2x vertically and horizontally. I set monogame to use the 4k resolution I'm using, but I'm not sure if it's because the matrices are set up to an orthogonl projection matrix of 1920x1080, but it certainly acts like that's the case. I am not expecting that. Need to investigate, I guess.
12:07 <Cepheid> ...
12:07 <Cepheid> The display mode is reporting 1920x1080, despite setting the backbuffer dime- Ugh.
12:15 <Cepheid> Yeah, the OS is reporting a scaled resolution because why not?
12:18 <Cepheid> Which creates a problem, because when I go to set the resolution to what's reported by the OS, it changes the resolution *TO* that resolution, even though it's incorrect.
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12:28 * Cepheid checks the github repo for monogame to see if perhaps they have currently-undocumented support for getting the scaling of the OS display.
12:30 <Schism> Cepheid: https://old.reddit.com/r/ac_newhorizons/comments/fj7m7b/isis_this_a_new_villager/
12:31 <Cepheid> Heh.
12:31 <ConfusionRift> A fluffer in every box.
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12:33 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift.
12:33 <Finwe> o7
12:33 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)
12:38 <Cepheid> Okay, *THAT* fixed it. I'll use that as an alternative for building under Windows, for now.
12:38 <Cepheid> For the time being, it seems the OpenGL and DirectX versions of monogame report inconsistent information.
12:39 <Cepheid> Monogame is supposed to not be DPI aware, but the DesktopGL variation *IS* DPI aware.
12:41 * PrincessRainbows chews on Finwe's hooves
12:43 <Schism> Cephy: that sounds like the kind of implementation which is really helpful under exactly the right circumstances.
12:51 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/LuminousOcean/status/1239534587254013952
12:51 <Schism> Looks pretty spectacular to me.
12:52 * PrincessRainbows also licks ConfusionRift till he's dripping
12:53 * ConfusionRift pets PrincessRainbows. :P
12:53 <ConfusionRift> That's nice. Got it all working, huh. :P
12:53 <ConfusionRift> Oh right, it's the placeholder sprite.
12:54 <Cepheid> Yep.
12:54 <Cepheid> And yep.
12:54 <Cepheid> That was me also demonstrating double jumping.
12:55 * PrincessRainbows runs around barking and panting
12:55 * ConfusionRift flops. Has work. Bleck.
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12:55 * Finwe pets PrincessRainbows.
13:00 * Cepheid spends the time today organizing his game class. Up until now, it's been hacked together to get stuff working. Needs to organize it.
13:02 * Cepheid also decides to do a bit of pixel arting.
13:03 * Cepheid finishes a large download. Loads it up just to see what kind of performance he can get in it on his new rig.
13:06 <Cepheid> I like that. Bunch of unskippable brandname videos, then it starts loading the game. What, you couldn't load data while the videos were playing?
13:15 <Cepheid> Vulkan API..
13:16 <Cepheid> Vulk API, 4K res, Ultra settings... 80-100 FPS.
13:16 <Cepheid> Even MHWorld isn't this performant.
13:19 <Cepheid> Absolute highest settings(Ultra is limited to "Ultra" for some settings. Some settings go up to "Nightmare")
13:19 <Cepheid> Restart game..
13:22 <Cepheid> Dips to about 66FPS.
13:22 <Cepheid> 75 if I set rendering mode from "Cinematic" to "Default"
13:22 <Cepheid> This is just how good the DOOM engine is optimized. This is one of the few games I can run at 4k@60.
13:23 <Cepheid> Let's see how OpenGL 4.5 handles.
13:23 <Cepheid> For starters, load time is much, much higher.
13:24 <Cepheid> I average 60 FPS.
13:25 <Cepheid> So yeah, Vulkan's definitely an improvement over OpenGL and DX9.
13:58 <Cepheid> Hum. There's one feature I want to do for my game, but I don't know how to resolve it's implementation with respect to the ingame map.
13:58 <Cepheid> Except to use a 3D map.
13:59 <Cepheid> That said, I should probably inquire as to whether the feature is a good idea in the first place.
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14:02 <Cepheid> Actually, hmm. Better to keep this simple, than overcomplicate. Plus, the idea might get people lost more easily.
14:04 <Cepheid> Actually, hmm..
14:04 <Cepheid> Even the simplified variation has it's own problems.
14:04 <Cepheid> I'm gonna have to think about this.
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14:14 * Cepheid debates internally with himself what to do.
14:18 * Cepheid examines LM's Spring in the Sky Map to figure something out.
14:36 * Cepheid switches gears. Goes to make his own map editor.
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17:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Show Song Remix: Daniel Ingram - A Kirin Tale (Likonan's Club Remix) [Breaks] [ http://tinyurl.com/tmzxahu ]
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17:50 <ADragonDreaming> I am a monkey's uncle.
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18:24 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Starlight Glimmer Day - 4 Day Reminder! [ http://tinyurl.com/rzvwm4o ]
18:30 <Cepheid> Hmm>
18:30 <Cepheid> Why's that, ADragonDreaming?
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18:36 <Kali_Graphia> Hi~
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18:44 * Ali flops over da Cepheid
18:54 <Golden> Afternoon
18:56 <Ali> Well state now has first death from virus
18:56 <Ali> Of course, no information is given on if that person already had a comprimised immune system or not
18:57 * Ali flops into Finwe's plane and buzzes around wiff them. But not in game cause unicorn doesn't have dat.
19:14 <Cepheid> I'll be starting the server tomorrow. I'll be loading two servers up. A vanilla server, and one with Krastorio^2.
19:15 <Ali> Kay
19:16 <Ali> Guess that would be good timing too cause with everything out of house grinding to a stop, I'll need something to do.
19:17 <Cepheid> Eeeyup.
19:18 <Ali> I've got Rimworld for now, but that game does irk me at times
19:18 <Ali> Like botching an eyepatch surgery and ruining the other eye.
19:21 <Cepheid> Heh.
19:22 <Cepheid> Meanwhile I'm stuck in the house. Parents don't want me going out.
19:27 <Ali> Paranoid or just cause you seem prone to something cause of that constant sickness?
19:33 <Cepheid> Prone to it.
19:35 <Schism> Canada's closed.
19:35 <Schism> Pierre Trudeau announced that the country is closing its borders to most non-Canadians, though Americans are exempted.
19:36 <Schism> Also, permanent residents can come back.
19:36 <Ali> Everything close
19:36 * Ali flops over Schism and Cepheid and snugs.
20:18 <Golden> Cute
20:24 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Doom Eternal's DOOMicorn Has a Few Pony References [ http://tinyurl.com/t3qdpbj ]
20:29 * Cepheid abuses the fact that (1000/60) * 3 is a whole number to implement "subpixel" precision while still utilizing integers.
20:33 <Golden> ._.
20:38 <Cepheid> What?
20:40 <Golden> Shrug
20:53 <Schism> Hum. Apocalypse conditions out there. Plenty of dried goods, cleaning supplies, and such at the local grocer's, but when it comes to milk and bread? Well. I found a 2-liter of milk, and that was it.
20:55 <Ali> Well milk and bread are the first two to sell out
20:59 * Lumindia steals Ali for hugs
20:59 * Ali squeaks
21:01 <Lumindia> <3
21:01 <Lumindia> Ali is very huggable
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21:03 <Cepheid> The milk thing may drive my dad up a wall.
21:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Dashie-Approved Flying Music: Ice Angel - Soarin' [Hard Dance/Psytrance] [ http://tinyurl.com/w768dsw ]
21:05 <Cepheid> !link https://youtu.be/IqnZgCSwOsw
21:05 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
21:05 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Dootdoot Band E2m1 Doot Anomaly
21:08 <Lumindia> D o o t
21:09 <Cepheid> Hilariously, there is a doot revenant skin in DOOM Eternal.
21:10 <Lumindia> yep
21:10 <Lumindia> I'm gettin' it
21:11 <Cepheid> I wonder if the doot band will appear at all. Hidden away in a room somewhere. Where you can listen to a dooty version of E1M1.
21:16 * Ali rolls around, more bored than she thought she'd be
21:16 <Ali> Also US is restricting gatherings to 10 or less people, goodbye FNM...
21:18 <Lumindia> FNM?
21:19 <Ali> Friday Night Magic
21:20 * PrincessRainbows sniffs the Ali all over for sugar cubes
21:20 <Ali> Last group was 40 people
21:20 <Lumindia> Boop my snoot, Rainbows!
21:21 <PrincessRainbows> Uh... Is that a good idea
21:21 <Lumindia> just do it
21:21 <Lumindia> o wo
21:21 * Lumindia presents the snoot
21:21 * PrincessRainbows boops anyway
21:21 * Lumindia dispenses sugar cubes and salt licks
21:22 <PrincessRainbows> Yay!
21:22 <Lumindia> \o/
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21:31 * Cepheid coughs up 19 ravens.
21:32 * Ali locks Cepheid into a birdcage
21:32 <Cepheid> Tweet tweet o3o
21:35 <Ali> Cepheid, want a cracker? *shot*
21:36 * Cepheid holds up box of crackers. Noms box.
21:42 * PrincessRainbows still licks Ali anyway for no reason
21:42 * Ali snuggles PrincessRainbows
21:45 * PrincessRainbows bounces around Ali like an excited filly
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21:48 * PrincessRainbows licks PinkieShy till he's dripping too
21:51 * Ali boops PrincessRainbows and puffycheeks
21:57 <PinkieShy> Welp one of my fav restaurants closing their dining rooms for a while.. They'll be Drive-thru only for a while..
21:57 * PinkieShy boops PrincessRainbows
21:58 * PrincessRainbows giggles and climbs onto the Ali
21:59 <Ali> PinkieShy, same here
21:59 <Ali> Everything is pretty much shut down, no gatherings of 10 or more people.
22:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3281 [ http://tinyurl.com/vupa5dc ]
22:07 <Schism> A pair of brothers bought 18,000 bottles of hand sanitizer, and now they're sad they can't sell them.
22:07 <Schism> I would not mind shoving a great many of those bottles down their throats.
22:08 <Ali> They were forced to donate them as well I believe
22:08 <Schism> Excellent.
22:08 * Golden finally has the original dragon quest trilogy
22:08 <Schism> That's the proper karmic reward.
22:09 <PinkieShy> ... This Youtube is going to end up hurting himself badly.. smh..
22:10 <PinkieShy> He's a diabetic he told all his viewers like a year ago, But yet just got 6 boxes of Twinkies on their latest video..
22:12 <PrincessRainbows> :c
22:15 <Lumindia> HAH
22:15 <Cepheid> Eating large quantities isn't a death sentence for a diabetic individual. Unless it isn't dealt with, like through taking insulin.
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22:22 <PrincessRainbows> People will do terribly stupid things for money and fame
22:28 <PinkieShy> I'm surprised Waffle house hasn't announced their closing.. If they have I haven't heard anything honestly..
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22:32 <Ali> Lordy why do people misunderstand things
22:34 <PinkieShy> Ali I don't misunderstand things, But I mean other restaurants are doing it, That's why I said I'm surprised by that honestly.. All I see on their twitter is that they are sanitizing things more often and request before someone sits down let them sanitize the table and seats.
22:34 <Ali> No no, something else PinkieShy
22:34 * Ali hugs on
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22:38 <Schism> Hm. French authorities have advised that paracetamol, AKA acetaminophen, may worsen COVID-19 symptoms. Keep that in mind, folks.
22:38 * Ali nods and curls up into Schism
22:38 <Cepheid> Oh yay, the cure for my headaches if I get one.
22:40 <Schism> Yea. It sucks. ._.
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22:41 <Cepheid> https://v.redd.it/b9bqeic662n41
22:41 <Schism> Heh. A megachurch decided to stop faith healing because of COVID-19. Lord, heal this sickness.
22:41 <PinkieShy> I'm scared to go see my Doctor tomorrow for an appointment I have..
22:41 <PinkieShy> Scared somebody there might have the virus and I get exposed.. But I have to go for my toe :/
22:41 <PinkieShy> Ingrown toenail suck.
22:42 <Cepheid> https://v.redd.it/ethp47k50ym41
22:54 <Cepheid> Starting to think we've reached the breaking point. If I were to go outside now and have a coughing fit, i suspect I'd be quarantined.
22:57 <Schism> Quite possibly.
22:59 <Cepheid> Way the news is talking, going outside and coughing or showing any symptoms is a bad idea. Even slight symptoms.
22:59 <Schism> I have a slight cough because, hey, it's still cold. But it's a lot better than it was.
23:00 <Ali> And what are they going to do with hay fever and spring alergies start to crop up
23:00 <Cepheid> My cough in general is doing much better since the addition of the humidifier. But it is still there, along with the extreme itchiness in my chest.
23:09 <Cepheid> !link https://youtu.be/DgICL1GWHng
23:09 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
23:09 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about 7 MIN OF DANK BIRB MEMES #2
23:11 <PrincessRainbows> Too late for that Ali
23:16 <PrincessRainbows> I mean winter allergies exist too and some idiot will say that antihistamines can cure covid-19 making the problem worse
23:17 <Schism> The pushers are of course already trying to get people to buy more bleach -- oh, I'm sorry, "Miracle Mineral Solution", for which they should really be forced to drink an exceptionally large amount of their own product.
23:19 <Ali> Heh
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23:21 <Cepheid> I'm kind of curious what the long-term effects of how the world is handling COVID-19 will be. There is definitely gonna be a long-term social impact.
23:23 <Finwe> o3o
23:23 <Schism> Maybe, maybe, it will persuade certain governments that basic healthcare needs are vital to a nation.
23:23 <Finwe> Good evening, everypony!
23:24 <Finwe> Mlles Ali, DashedRainbows and Sleeping_Nightmares; Messrs Cepheid, Schism and PinkieShy.
23:24 * Finwe doffs his hat.
23:24 * Sleeping_Nightmares climbs onto Finwe head
23:24 * PrincessRainbows looks at Ali with teary eyes and hugs after waving at Finwe
23:25 <Cepheid> I'll be honest Schism, I'm not holding much hope for the US improving in any way. Too antithetical to it's current setup.
23:25 <Finwe> Ali: I mostly drive around in tank rather than fly.
23:25 <Finwe> Moreover, War Thunder is free to play. o3o
23:26 * Jackie2 pets PrincessRainbows
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23:27 <Finwe> Miss Jackie.
23:27 * Finwe doffs his hat.
23:27 * Jackie pats Finwe
23:27 <Schism> Cepheid: https://www.thebeaverton.com/2020/03/canada-announces-it-will-exclusively-import-covid-19-from-us/
23:28 <Schism> (The Beaverton, for those not around, is the Canadian version of The Onion.)
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23:28 <Finwe> o3o
23:28 <Cepheid> Well we did leave the border open.
23:28 <Schism> It's a big border. What were we going to do, build a wall?
23:28 <Schism> Well. Two walls.
23:29 <Ali> Yeah, cause that will keep a free floating disease out.
23:29 <Schism> Mostly, the borders have been closed to all non-Canadian citizens or permanent residents. It's basically scaling up social distancing, heh.
23:30 * Sleeping_Nightmares noms Finwe
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23:30 * PrincessRainbows boops Jackie2 with her plushie and yawns
23:30 <Ali> You think this may lead to isolationists becoming too much?
23:30 * Schism boops the floof with a plush coronavirus. It's too big to infect anyone, and it's cuddly.
23:31 <Schism> Well, you won't see me becoming a hikikomori.
23:32 <Finwe> Finland is going to close borders on Wednesday, given that the Parliament approves of the cabinet's decree on enforcing the fifth subsection of the National Emergency Act.
23:32 <Schism> Makes sense.
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23:35 <Finwe> Also, all gatherings of more that ten people are banned, all schools, museums and such are closed and also some lesser measures taken.
23:35 <Cepheid> For me, outside of dealing with cabin fever, it is just business as usual.
23:36 <Jackie> I just stay inside as much as possible
23:36 <Jackie> I mean, I play games anywau
23:36 <Jackie> *anyway
23:38 <Cepheid> For me, I'm an introvert. I only go outside to stave off cabin fever. Otherwise, I either read, play games, or make games.
23:39 <ADragonDreaming> Yarp.
23:39 <Schism> https://twitter.com/kaynimatic/status/1239668387048910848 - I think we can mostly relate.
23:40 <Schism> Oh, you already replied thereto. Ha.
23:40 * PrincessRainbows also grabs her pacifier and flops on Jackie for a nap
23:40 * Jackie pets PrincessRainbows a lot
23:41 <PinkieShy> ....
23:41 <Schism> ...?
23:42 <PinkieShy> Trying to ask the CDC if its safe to keep doctor's appointment.. My dad usually comes with me to explain what the doctor says better and he'll be 60 in 2022.. I'm worried about him
23:42 <PinkieShy> and Verizon keeps dropping the call a ton like probably had 10 dropped calls now :(
23:43 <PinkieShy> Signal bar is seriously going crazy like it shows full bars, no bars, mid level bars and repeat..
23:43 * PrincessRainbows nuzzles Jackie and curls up
23:44 <PinkieShy> My Doctor's office I believe is seeing people with the Coronavirus.. Since their website says if you think you have it contact your healthcare provider ASAP..
23:44 * Jackie nuzzles PrincessRainbows forehead
23:45 <PinkieShy> IDK what to do guys.. I just know I have a ingrown toenail that is badly infected and it hurts..
23:45 <PinkieShy> :(
23:46 <Schism> Go to the doctor. Seriously.
23:46 <Schism> You're not at risk as much as most folks, and an ingrown toenail can cause serious problems.
23:46 <PinkieShy> Schism what about my father though.. :(
23:47 <PrincessRainbows> Then go since that's also an untreated infection
23:47 <Schism> Even then. Doctors have been trying to make sure their places are as sanitary as can be.
23:47 <Schism> Wear gloves or something if you can get them, but do go.
23:47 <PinkieShy> Will a dust mask do you think? I have a ton of those
23:47 <Schism> Dust masks are more for outbound than inbound.
23:48 <PinkieShy> Okay..
23:48 <Schism> If it makes you feel safer, by all means.
23:48 <Schism> Well, I mean, that's wrong in every particular, but it's honestly the truth. If you have a cough, a dust mask can help keep you from spreading, though technically they're there to stop large particulates from hitting your lungs.
23:49 <Schism> What in the name of Eris... https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20200316/14584244111/softbank-owned-patent-troll-using-monkey-selfie-law-firm-sues-to-block-covid-19-testing-using-theranos-patents.shtml
23:55 <Schism> ... a man in Texas tried to request a stay on his execution, citing fears that he might be subjected to COVID-19. While I'm no fan of that death penalty, I am reminded of the old joke about sterilizing the needle.
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23:58 <Cepheid> Geezus chripes.
23:59 <Schism> I'm sorry, I'll try and keep any news positive from here.
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