Log archive of EquestriaDaily for Monday, 2020-04-27

00:00 <Cepheid> ... This took way too much time and effort, but I got it working.

00:01 <Cepheid> And just in time, because it's about time when my mother wants to start gaming, which we'll probably be starting soon.

00:04 <Cepheid> Hum, I have a fever of 100.1F

00:05 *** Joins: Stormspark (stormspark@Pony-25m.dcd.98.172.IP)

00:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3322 [ http://tinyurl.com/y9wjomf4 ]

00:11 <Cepheid> ... Yeah, I'm not gonna do any gaming tonight.  Asked my mother if it was okay to pass, so I could rest.  Apparently she's intently focused on some needlepoint she's doing.

00:11 <Cepheid> So we're kind of both in the same boat today.  Focused on something.

00:11 <Cepheid> Just, I also feel like I'm burnin' up *WHILE* freezing at the same time./

00:14 <Cepheid> https://i.imgur.com/Cqi00I6.gifv He looks disappointed, but only because he can't do that.

00:38 <PinkieShy> Trying ot force myself to eat some chicken

00:50 <Cepheid> Why?  Why force it?

00:52 <PinkieShy> I haven't felt hungry at all all day.

00:52 <PinkieShy> So figured i need to eat something at very least.. I got it down but my body might disagree but yea.

01:01 <Cepheid> https://i.redd.it/x83b3p7q96v41.jpg

01:02 <Cepheid> !link https://youtu.be/QwdbFNGCkLw Sharing because I have this stuck in my head.  I want others to suffer with me.

01:02 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

01:02 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Nightcore - Ievan Polkka (VSNS Remix)

01:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Hacks / Bricks / Next Generation 17 / BoE 8:8 / Wrap [ http://tinyurl.com/ycnuey76 ]

01:16 *** Quits: jimm (horse@Pony-fr7.dqo.55.45.IP) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)

01:19 <Cepheid> https://v.redd.it/1ljc4cb9c8v41

01:35 *** Joins: ryaxnb21 (ryaxnb@Pony-hj0ath.ca.comcast.net)

01:56 * PrincessRainbows randomly decides to lick PinkieShy till he's soaked

02:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #2143 [ http://tinyurl.com/y6v52k5o ]

02:08 <Schism> Cepheid: Omega - eScape.

02:09 <Schism> (FFXIV boss theme.)

02:09 <Cepheid> Heh.

02:09 <Cepheid> Hmm.  Let's listen...  Guessing it is the generic Omegascape boss theme?

02:09 <Schism> Oh heavens no.

02:10 <Schism> It's kinda like the Alexander theme is to the rest of the bosses.

02:10 <Cepheid> Oh.  It's Omega himself.

02:10 <Schism> In that raid, that is.

02:10 <Schism> Yup.

02:11 <Cepheid> I really should try catching up sometime so I can face a raid boss at full strength.

02:11 <Schism> There are minimum iLvl groups.

02:11 <Cepheid> True.

02:11 <Cepheid> I get the appeal of the battles these days.

02:12 <Cepheid> The stress, the fear, the knowledge that if you make a mistake, it's over.  It causes an unusual sensation to well up in me.

02:13 <Schism> Without spoiling anything more about them, you'd likely love some of the Eden fights.  They have a ton of 'don't screw up' mechanics.

02:13 <Cepheid> Heh.

02:13 <Cepheid> Even if you do screw up, sometimes it can be salvaged.

02:15 <Schism> Yes, but typically you only get one (1) stack of Vuln Up, and then if you screw up again, you are dead.

02:15 <Cepheid> Heh.

02:18 <Cepheid> As for the above feeling, I don't know how to express it.  All I know of it, is that it is the same sensation I get when I get into a difficult position with code, be it a problem I can't solve, or a deadline coming up looming over me.

02:18 * Schism nodnods, "The endorphins when you finally -do- something difficult."

02:18 <Cepheid> Not doing.

02:18 <Schism> Or killing Miriam.

02:18 <Cepheid> Attempting.

02:18 * Ali flops over Schism

02:18 <Schism> Ah, that too.

02:18 <Cepheid> It's the attempt that feeds it.

02:18 <Cepheid> It's a strong sense of "No, I won't give up.  I'll try, and try again."

02:19 <Ali> Waiting on the first blueberry harvest be like :T

02:19 <Cepheid> I'm sure you've seen my behaviour in difficult battles with random folks on occasion.  As the attempts mount, I try to keep people from getting upset, down.  Push on just a bit more.

02:20 * Schism nodnods.

02:20 <Cepheid> But yes, the battles with Miriam, with Noah.  With Irisu.

02:20 <Cepheid> It was long, grueling, and kept going on and on.  But I wasn't getting upset.

02:20 <Cepheid> I was enjoying it.

02:21 <Cepheid> It's nice to win, but there's something about what happens along the way.

02:22 <Cepheid> Guh.

02:22 <Cepheid> I shouldn't have taken two vyvanse.  That's why I'm stuck, alert.

02:22 <Cepheid> I got mental energy I want to vent, to apply in a burst to something.

02:23 <Cepheid> I'm seeking music like what I asked for on Twitter, because somewhere in my mind, I'm trying to inspire myself to get up and do something.

02:23 <Cepheid> Even though right now I feel like garbage.

02:27 <Cepheid> I think it's back.

02:27 <Cepheid> My drive.  The burnout's done.

02:27 <Schism> Aha!  That is good to hear.

02:27 <Schism> Cepheid: There's always Neo-Exdeath's Theme too.

02:28 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.

02:28 <Cepheid> I prefer the original SNES version of it, surprisingly.

02:28 <Cepheid> 14's remix is not bad, but it feels... off.

02:28 <Cepheid> It's the speed.

02:28 <Cepheid> It feels slower than the original version.

02:29 <Schism> It is a bit slower, yeah.

02:29 <Cepheid> The basic Exdeath Battle theme is also pretty good, too.

02:30 <Cepheid> If it wasn't for the whole... Exdeath being a TREE thing, and having like, the worst evil plans ever, it'd have made the battles with him more dramatic.

02:30 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua_X6HEllEo

02:30 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Decisive Battle (Vs. Exdeath) (Final Fantasy V) - GaMetal Remix

02:30 <Schism> Yeah... the whole tree thing is kinda waaay out there.

02:31 <Cepheid> I honestly feel it is some of the best music for a villain in any JRPG, really.

02:32 <Schism> It seriously is some of the best boss music out there.

02:32 <Cepheid> Ah... hmm.

02:32 <Cepheid> Trials of Mana's remake is out, now.  *Checks OST*

02:33 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7gT5OfL68k

02:33 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

02:33 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Trials of Mana Remake OST - Nuclear Fusion

02:34 * PrincessRainbows also boops Ali's horn and claps her hooves

02:34 * Ali boops PrincessRainbows's wings

02:37 <Schism> Cepheid: If not for the fact that Atma Weapon came literally out of nowhere, this would be in the ranking for best FF boss themes too.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlRqNR5ExtY

02:37 <Cepheid> Ah, yes.

02:38 <Cepheid> One of the few FF6 tracks I like.

02:38 <Cepheid> Alongside Decisive Battle.

02:38 * PrincessRainbows boops Ali's horn again and snuggles

02:38 <Schism> How about Shadow's Theme?

02:39 <Cepheid> Not really.

02:39 <Cepheid> FF6 was... lackluster, to me.

02:39 <Schism> I'm surprised.  I found it to be quite good, though there were certainly moments of meh.

02:39 <Schism> (FF5 is still my favourite.)

02:41 <Schism> Can we at least be in agreement that Dancing Mad beats the heck out of One Winged Angel?

02:42 <Cepheid> I wasn't a fan of Dancing Mad. >.>

02:42 <Schism> Oh fine.  XD

02:43 <Schism> I forget, did you get to Tsukuyomi in FFXIV?  Probably not...

02:45 <Cepheid> I don't think so.

02:46 <Schism> Well, it's worth playing to get to that boss.  Though of course, that's late in the Stormblood MSQ.

02:48 * Ali drops 400 blueberries onto Schism

02:48 <Cepheid> Before or after Shinryu?

02:48 <Schism> Way after.  It's near the end of SB entirely.

02:48 <Cepheid> Ah.

02:48 * Cepheid puts on Shinryu's theme.

02:49 <Schism> Actual theme starts at around 4:30.

02:49 <Schism> Er, 4:20 for the dudewhereismyspoon video.

02:50 <Cepheid> Hmm?

02:50 <Schism> Shinryu's theme.  There's a first-phase and a second-phase.

03:11 <Cepheid> Second phase, right.

03:11 <PinkieShy> :(

03:11 * Schism lets out a mournful howl for PinkieShy.

03:11 <PinkieShy> I took a nap in the sofa and didn't wake in time for VRC freeze tag :(

03:12 <PinkieShy> I played it earlier today and that thing went on for 3 hours

03:12 <PinkieShy> Wanted to play again with more friends but.. I guess that is out of the question for now.

03:16 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Cyberpunk Twilight vs Tirek Music: Koron Korak - Face Your Fate (feat. Twilight Sparkle) [Synth Rock] [ http://tinyurl.com/ydc6t29m ]

03:20 * Cepheid is curious. Looks up the vyvanse medication under it's medical name, to see exactly what he is taking.

03:21 <Cepheid> Lisdexamfetamine.  It apparently lasts 2 to 12 hours.  Sounds about right.

03:22 <Cepheid> "Rare but serious side effects include mania, sudden cardiac death in those with underlying heart problems, and psychosis."  I think I'm suffering from the first and last one.

03:28 <Cepheid> It's not my OCD.  The driving myself into the ground working is a side effect of amphetamine usage, apparently.

03:30 <Cepheid> I think I understand why amphetamines are a controlled drug, now.

03:31 <Schism> Sheesh.

03:31 <Cepheid> If this is the effects one feels on a moderate dosage..

03:31 <Schism> Yeah, any mental-altering drugs are like that.

03:31 <Cepheid> Then I can see why people would find it addictive enough to steal it, among other issues.

03:32 <Cepheid> Apparently, the maximum therapeutic dose for regular amphetamines is 50mg/day.  I currently take 30mg, and I'm allowed to take up to 60mg.

03:32 <Cepheid> It's the 60mg dose that drives me into a wall.  And what... drove me for most of December last year.

03:34 <Cepheid> Actually, for this one, it seems to be around 80mg.

03:35 <Cepheid> Normally, I'd be concerned about it being an amphetamine and being addictive, but uhm, to be honest, I don't really find it addictive.  If anything, long-term, the effects of it progressively make me feel worse.  Like I'm using more energy than I am recouping from eating and sleeping.

03:36 <Cepheid> So I tend to make use of the larger dose sparingly.

03:36 <Schism> I think I can emphasize with that.  When I was briefly on ADD-clearing drugs, I was either wired or sleeping.

03:37 <Cepheid> Too strong a dose, and you start to feel worse over time.

03:37 <Cepheid> Too weak a dose, and well, it does nothing.

03:37 <Cepheid> 30mg seems to be slightly below the sweet spot.

03:37 <Cepheid> Wherein I have the capacity to function, but also the capacity to relax.

03:38 * Schism nodnods.

03:39 <Cepheid> No, with regards to my medication, the thing I am more concerned about is my dependence on Aleve.

03:39 <Cepheid> Or painkillers in general.

03:39 <Schism> Ah, that does make sense.  Liver issues and all that.

03:39 <Cepheid> Liver issues, and aleve is a lot of sodium right off the bat.

03:39 <Cepheid> Not good for the heart.

03:39 <Cepheid> Plus, it also hides any aches and pains in my body.

03:40 <Schism> Mmm.  Pain is nature's way of telling you, "Wait, stop, look at this."

03:40 <Cepheid> I'm trying to cut myself off from them, but the sinuses...

03:40 * Schism blinks, as Ursula Vernon is watching an anime named 'Beastars'. He looks up the manga. "Oh, this is interesting."

03:41 <Schism> Yeah, there's no point in taking a medicine which helps you focus if you're just going to be focused on the pain.

03:41 <Cepheid> Well, it only negates the pain, anyways.

03:41 <Cepheid> It does nothing for the rest of the symptoms.

03:42 <Schism> Aye.

03:42 <Cepheid> Fever, nausea, pressure, dizziness.

03:42 <Cepheid> Gotta figure something out though.

03:43 <Cepheid> Not a fan of the choice between "shorter lifespan, healthier mind and body." and "longer lifespan, knives in my eyes level agony."

03:45 * Cepheid is hungry. Noms some cut up cauliflower.

03:45 <Schism> Mm, Morton's fork.

03:45 * Schism offers some queso into which to dip the cauliflower.

03:46 <Schism> Ghost pepper queso.

03:46 <Cepheid> I got some veggie dip to go with it.  All I got on hand.

03:46 <Schism> Well, that works too.  Yay for ranch.

03:47 <Cepheid> I wonder what cauliflower is good for in terms of nutrients and such.  It's pretty much my favourite vegetable.

03:47 <Schism> Not a whole ton, to be honest.  It pretty much serves as a filler, though at least it's slightly more nutritious than celery, which takes more calories to digest than it provides.

03:48 <Schism> Some potassium, some vitamin C (not that we have any difficulty getting enough ascorbic acid), some magnesium.

03:49 <Cepheid> Meh.  Fills me up at least.

03:49 <Cepheid> Especially since I eat so damned much of it when I do eat it.  *Has eaten half a head of it already.*

03:49 <Schism> Cepheid: https://minimalistbaker.com/how-to-make-cauliflower-rice/

03:50 <Cepheid> Huh.  I'll have to try that out.

03:50 <Ali> Sum 19 and I have the greenhouse

03:50 <Schism> Ali, what madness is this?

03:50 <Ali> Schism, Joja Membership benifits~

03:51 <Schism> Oh, right, you're doing the evil path.

03:51 <Ali> So evil when 400 blueberries just buys you everything :P

03:51 <Schism> The blueberries aren't the problem!  You're killing those poor junimo.  ;-;

03:52 <PinkieShy> If all goes well..

03:52 <PinkieShy> I'm going to make boiled peanuts tomorrow :D

03:53 <PinkieShy> Already bought a bag of Jumbo raw Hampton Farms peanuts

03:53 <Ali> They can be my farm slaves eventually

03:54 <Schism> I don't think you get a Junimo hut if you do that route.

03:54 <Ali> Eh

03:54 <Schism> Hm.  I wasn't expecting to be reading a furry manga tonight, but here we are.  And it kicks off with a murder mystery.

03:54 <Ali> But Schism

03:54 <Ali> The bus hasn't been fixed FOR YEARS

03:54 <PinkieShy> I got something weird yesterday though..

03:54 <Ali> until you come along with Joja and fix it without stupid magic

03:54 <Schism> Ali: Bah!  The bus is easy to fix on the normal route, just throw money at the vault.

03:55 <PinkieShy> At food lion.. A random guy saw me and my dad next to each other and said 'I can tell you guys are related because of the mustache'

03:55 <Ali> SAME WITH JOJA~

03:55 <Schism> But you don't get a star from Joja!

03:55 <Schism> Well.  Maybe you get one on your membership card.

03:56 <Schism> PinkieShy, that's an odd basis for comparison.

03:56 <PinkieShy> Ikr..

03:56 <PinkieShy> Me and my dad got a good laugh out of it lol

03:57 <Schism> Pffff.  https://www.reddit.com/r/StardewValley/comments/g8o70i/its_not_cheating_its_strategic/

03:57 * Cepheid finishes the remains of 3/4th a head of cauliflower.

03:57 <Ali> I mean I haven't found a single hazelnut

03:57 <Schism> Karma.

03:58 <Schism> Also, hazelnuts only appear in the fall.

03:59 <Schism> ... I want one.  https://www.reddit.com/r/StardewValley/comments/g8riui/reminds_me_of_leahs_sculpture/

03:59 <Cepheid> Heh.

04:01 * Cepheid lays back down, puts on Omega eScape, and analyzes his brain's overdrive state and reaction to Vyvanse.

04:01 *** Quits: Taoki (MirceaKitsu@Pony-7ul.gjo.113.93.IP) (Connection closed)

04:01 <Schism> Aw, poor mongoose.  Didn't get the part he'd been aching for, time to murder someone in retaliation.

04:02 *** Joins: Taoki (MirceaKitsu@Pony-7ul.gjo.113.93.IP)

04:02 <Schism> (High school where half the characters are herbivores and half are carnivores.  Socially awkward situations result.)

04:02 * Schism boops the Taoki with a page of Beastars.

04:02 <Cepheid> Hum..

04:02 <Cepheid> Omega's Delta Attack is pretty impressive.  Flashy.

04:03 <Schism> That it is.  Good thing you can get away with just popping every oGCD to block it.

04:03 <Schism> No, the real pain for Omega is Starboard/Larboard.

04:03 * Cepheid watches the battle from the start to see the attacks.

04:03 <Schism> You know which one is which, right, Cepheid?

04:05 <Cepheid> Geeze, that Mustard Bomb.

04:05 <Schism> Yeah, that one is a pain, but it's just a simple 'get out of each others' way'.

04:06 <Cepheid> Ah, one of *THOSE* attacks

04:07 <Cepheid> Picks a side, starboard or port, and then uses an attack that covers the arena on that side of him.

04:07 <Cepheid> And it hits hard.

04:07 <Schism> Yup, that's a straight 75% or more and a Vuln. Up stack.

04:07 <Schism> AND he turns around 180 degrees, so you have to adjust.

04:08 <Cepheid> Storage Violation, heh.

04:08 <Schism> Heh, level checker too.

04:09 <Schism> As if it weren't obvious it's a DPS check.

04:09 <Schism> By the way, that's Alphascape 3.0.

04:09 <Cepheid> Force Quit.  DPS burn, I'm guessing.

04:09 <Schism> Exactly.

04:12 <Schism> Starboard/Larboard is Squeenix's favourite mechanic in Shadowbringers, by the way.  I can think of at least two bosses and an S-rank which use it extensively.

04:12 <Schism> And an alliance raid boss in Stormblood which does the same.

04:17 <Cepheid> Seems straightforward, Alphascape 3.0

04:17 <Cepheid> Anyways, to bed with me.

04:20 <Schism> It is straightforward once you know the mechs, but there are a lot of little traps which screw folks up.

04:20 <Schism> Anyway, have a good night.

04:20 *** Quits: Stormspark (stormspark@Pony-25m.dcd.98.172.IP) (Quit: Leaving)

04:22 <Schism> This is a perfectly sensible setup for a furry world.  http://www.mangahere.cc/manga/beastars/c006/1.html#ipg6

04:27 * Ali trashpanda's and gives Schism a cookie

04:28 * Schism peers at the cookie, then discards it and instead provides Ali with a sweet cranberry lemonade crumble bar.

04:28 * Ali pouts, trashcookies are the best cause they're free!

04:30 *** Joins: jimm (horse@Pony-fr7.dqo.55.45.IP)

04:31 <Schism> That poor guy.  Wife left him and he's been living in a tent ever since.

04:31 * PrincessRainbows sniffs the Ali for sugar cubes

04:32 * Schism creates a trail of sugar cubes leading to a trap. Though instead of a trap, it's a perfectly cooked medium rare steak and potato wedges.

04:32 <Schism> (With enough butter to cause cardiac arrest.  So kind of a trap.)

04:36 <Schism> ... this is also perfectly reasonable.  http://www.mangahere.cc/manga/beastars/c007.5/1.html#ipg4

04:43 <Schism> A steak, I should note, which also has fried mushrooms and onions atop, and a strip of bacon wrapped around it.

04:48 <Schism> Hm.  Normally I'd be preparing a shopping list for filet mignon with brussels sprouts, roasted reds, and mushrooms and onions, but I picked up the ingredients for burritos yesterday and so that's what we'll be eating.

04:49 * Schism noms on Ali's bumper.

04:49 <Schism> Well, bumpers.  And hoods.  And engines.

04:49 * Ali boops Schism as F1 cars don't have bumpers

04:49 <Schism> Fine.

04:49 * Schism noms on Ali's spoiler.

04:50 <Ali> Not my rear wing

04:50 <Schism> Yes, your rear wing!  You'll now experience substantial drag with all these toothmarks on it.

04:50 <Ali> I don't know, it MIGHT help the car

04:50 <Ali> I mean its a piece of trash anyway

04:51 <Schism> Fair point.  If it does, though, every drag team would get a set of foxes.

04:51 * Schism has flashbacks to winning oodles of money in Gran Tursimo 2 with an absolutely terrible car.

04:52 <Schism> Turismo*

04:52 <Ali> I won the F2 series with a crap car

04:52 <Ali> Was supposed to finish like 9th in the overall standings

04:52 <Ali> Ended up winning the series title by one point and promotion into F1

04:53 <Schism> Tuned a car to something like 333 horsepower, skating JUST under the line for that particular race, managed by chance to get the tires and the loadout just right, and won every time.  The prize was a remarkably terrible car which nonetheless sold for loads of money, and so I just kept doing that until I could pretty much buy everything.

04:54 <Schism> Also, nice!

04:54 <Ali> My cars are so bad in F1 Schism

04:54 <Ali> That I'm constantly 2-4 seconds a lap slower than the best team

04:54 <Schism> It's okay, Ali.  My chocobo is also absolutely terrible in FFXIV.

04:54 <Ali> So am I cause I stopped playing

04:54 <Schism> I'm tempted to throw out all the breeding certificates and just start anew.

04:55 <Schism> It's okay, it's not for everyone.  Though I don't think you ever made it to chocobo racing...

04:55 <Schism> Or the RTS minigame.

04:56 <Schism> Or mahjong, though that's okay because a game takes, like, an hour to complete and it's so complicated that I haven't even memorized the scoring rules.

04:58 <Ali> Well it just can't keep me engaged, though ARR is pretty meh from what I've heard

05:00 <Schism> That's fair.  Post-ARR is absolutely, undeniably terrible, a complete slog, and the devteam are working to fix that, but it looks like it'll take a while yet.  ARR itself is just fine, though.  Kinda boilerplate in a lot of places, but still good.

05:00 <Ali> It just feels like there's not enough spells

05:00 <Ali> I don't want to spam two keys in a fight

05:01 <Ali> Its like faceplant on keyboard and roll head

05:01 <Ali> Its that boring

05:01 <Schism> Conjurer and White Mage open up a bit more at... mmn.  I want to say 25, but give me a moment.  They really are just that way in parties, though.

05:02 <Schism> Yeah, you'll pretty much be doing those two buttons with some limited exceptions for a while.  WHM is best in parties where you have to actually react, so it's not best as a mainclass.

05:02 <Schism> Pugilist/Monk has a better selection of actions, and on the tank side, there's Warrior (the DPS-est tank).

05:05 <Schism> If you're intent on casters, then Black Mage is a good choice.  You have a bevy of actual actions, and the rotation requires you to adapt to the situation, though eventually you do settle on a pretty standard set.

05:06 <Schism> Problem is, they're even squishier than WHM.  A chocobuddy (at level 30) helps.

05:07 <Ali> Still..

05:07 <Schism> Still, yeah.

05:07 <Ali> Not enough engagement

05:07 <PinkieShy> yay :D

05:07 <Ali> It feels bland having to face roll two moves on a mob that takes 5-8 hits

05:07 <Schism> I do understand.  You did get out before all the political nonsense in-game, at least.

05:07 <PinkieShy> The feeling full filling is gone

05:07 <PinkieShy> I feel like i can eat a ton now :)

05:07 <Schism> That generally happens with ramen.  :S

05:08 <PinkieShy> Well having it for 24hrs is not cool to me lol

05:08 <PinkieShy> It was new to me at least..

05:08 <Schism> Oh.  24 hours... that's less common.

05:08 <PinkieShy> Yee

05:08 <Schism> Ali: The Main Scenario Quests were about to introduce you to the three Grand Companies, who are infighting because Reasons.

05:08 <PinkieShy> That's why i am not going to do instant Ramen stuff ever again lol

05:09 <PinkieShy> at of right now I'm saying that at least.

05:09 <Schism> You would be asked to join one of them, each having their own benefits and weaknesses in story, but which would have ABSOLUTELY NO EFFECT on gameplay outside of which colour scheme you like and which main city you prefer.

05:09 <Schism> Oh, and which PvP team you're on, which bleh.

05:09 <Schism> You'd also get airship travel.  Which is fine.

05:11 <Finwe> Good morning, everypony!

05:11 * PinkieShy gives Finwe some good morning licks

05:12 * Finwe snuggles the PinkieShy.

05:12 <Schism> Gridania has this whole "let's live with nature" thing, Ul'Dah has "For Coin and Country!" as their motto, as they're ruthless mercenaries, and Limsa Lominsa are a group of former pirates who are just spoiling for a good fight and the devil take the waves.

05:12 <Finwe> Miss Ali, Messrs PinkieShy and Schism.

05:12 * Finwe doffs his hat.

05:12 <Schism> rAdm. Finwe.

05:12 * Schism doffs his pancake.

05:13 * Finwe prepares to nom on 3 units of insulin aspart.

05:13 * Schism eyebrows at Finwe. "You are type-2, correct?"

05:13 <Finwe> No.

05:14 <Schism> Oh.  A pancake as I prepare them is usually about 15 grams, so a unit, maybe two.

05:14 <Schism> Of course, it depends on your insulin sensitivity.

05:15 <Schism> I, for example, take one unit for 9g carbs.

05:15 <Finwe> I had 51.3 grammes of carbohydrates for breakfast, and my prescription is 1 unit per 20 grammes.

05:15 <Schism> Criminy.  I knew I took a lot of insulin, but that's pretty low on your end.

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05:16 <Finwe> 51.3 rounded to nearest multiple of 20 is 60, so three units.

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05:16 <Schism> I also have an insulin pen (well, one with cartridges) which deals with half units.

05:16 <Finwe> In addition, 11 units of Lantus taken daily.

05:16 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: My Little Pony "Friendship is Forever" #2 - Cake for the Memories - Stream / Discussion  [ http://tinyurl.com/y9sy87qe ]

05:17 <Schism> Your pancreas hasn't shut down entirely, I assume, because I'm on 34 of Lantus a day.

05:17 * Ali shutters at pen

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05:18 <Schism> Ali: Thankfully, insulin is taken subcutaneously, rather than intravenously.

05:18 <Finwe> Difficult to say. I have no means of observing pancreatic activity.

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05:19 <Ali> Still don't talk about da pricking

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05:19 <Ali> It makes me stupidly queezy

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05:19 <Ali> Everybody ping out~

05:19 <Finwe> Ali: I only have 4mm needles for my pens.

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05:19 <Ali> Please no mores *ur;s*

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05:19 <Schism> It's a very, very small needle.  8mm for me, and it's 31 gauge.

05:19 * Schism stops for now then.

05:19 <Finwe> Mine are 32G.

05:20 <Schism> Even smaller!

05:20 * Finwe nodnods.

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05:21 <Ali> If I get sick I'm gonna get both of you.

05:22 <Schism> Ali, if it helps, I still look away when I get blood drawn or IVs inserted.  There's a difference.

05:22 <Ali> Please no more..

05:22 <Schism> Okay.  So, how's about those cranberries?

05:22 <Ali> Not in Fall yet

05:22 <Schism> Bah, you've a greenhouse.  You could've picked up some cranberry seeds from the trader!

05:23 <Schism> Or all manner of seeds, and built a seed presser to get them to reproduce.

05:24 <Schism> Cranberries are one of the biggest cash crops, after all.  o3o

05:24 <Ali> Seed press isn't till Farming Lvl 9

05:24 <Schism> All that money and you haven't gotten to Farming 9.  *tsk*

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05:24 * Ali dumps 400 blueberries onto Schism

05:24 * Schism makes them into blueberry pies!

05:24 <Ali> That's just one crop, a new batch is growing in da green house

05:25 <Ali> And I'm working on more sprinklers so I don't have to waste 95% of my energy watering the stupid things.

05:25 <Schism> Hey, Dakota, have you seen "Beastars"?  It's enormously screwed up, but also a really really good furry manga.

05:25 <Schism> Oh, yeah, you want all the sprinklers you can get...

05:27 <Ali> Well can't do irridium cause well

05:27 <Ali> I can't survive in that blasted cave long enough to get to the stuff

05:27 <Ali> My best bet is to get 20 more artifacts and bribe Krobus every Friday for one

05:28 <Schism> Or hope you run into a Prismatic Shard so that you can get the Galaxy Sword.

05:28 <Ali> That doesn't help a ton when those buggards in there do 40 damage a hit

05:29 <Finwe> On the average, it is better to do damage than to take it.

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05:30 <Finwe> Keeping that in mind, the behaviour of the said burglars is understandable.

05:31 <Schism> Yea, once you get the Galaxy Sword, you can prevent them from hitting you.  Though those freaking MUMMIES are a pain.

05:34 <Ali> The flying bugs?  How?  And the mummies you have to bomb

05:36 <PinkieShy> Omg omg omg omg

05:37 <PinkieShy> That was just a one in lifetime moment lol

05:37 <PinkieShy> At least to me.. Chances of getting noticed by this streamer again is probably very slim for me

05:41 <Schism> I felt the same way when I won the Cactpot lottery and didn't even notice for a little while.

05:41 <Schism> I was just, "Wait, WHAT just happened?!"

05:41 <Schism> A 3 in 10,000 chance per week.

05:42 <Ali> I've won all the awards you don't want

05:43 <Ali> Autism 1/?  Where ? depends on the year

05:43 <Ali> Hyperacusis another low occuring defect

05:43 * Ali weees

05:43 <PinkieShy> I have Autism

05:43 <Ali> You seem to do better than I do PinkieShy

05:44 <PinkieShy> Text to chat is easier..

05:44 <Ali> I even struggle in text...

05:44 <PinkieShy> Sometimes I can be very mute in VRC..

05:46 <Schism> I front.  Every time I go out in public, I put forth the persona of a regular, normal person, and then when I return home I take a quiet breath, grab a pillow, and scream.

05:46 <Schism> (Everyone should have a scream pillow.)

05:48 <Schism> I also have a 'phone voice' which I've been told is kind of like a radio announcer, except I hate talking with people and so my whole public life is a ginormous lie.

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06:04 <Ali> I fail at just about everything talking

06:04 <Ali> I can't talk in person cause I do it too much

06:04 <Ali> On here I tend to just..bleh

06:04 * Ali flops on face

06:11 <Schism> You do all right here.  Some folks have an issue talking over the phone, or personally, or over text.  We all have our ways of communicating.

06:12 <Schism> It's weird and it sucks, but people are ... well, people, that way.

06:18 <PinkieShy> I feel sad that umm.. With Math some things without calculator i feel the need to use my fingers still.

06:19 <Schism> There's this remarkable invention.  It's called a pen.

06:20 <Ali> I don't know, just sometimes I feel like I don't belong

06:20 * Schism quietly gnaws on a corner of Ali's greenhouse.

06:20 <PinkieShy> I'm talking about when pen and paper isn't handy lol

06:21 <PinkieShy> Ali I feel that way all the time.

06:21 <Schism> Ali, none of us belong!  We're all a bunch of outliers.

06:21 <PinkieShy> It's like this is the wrong planet lol

06:21 * Ali baps Schism to actually play SV wiffs sometimes

06:21 <Schism> And weirdos and geeks and freaks, even those who were popular in high school.

06:21 <Schism> We're crazy folks who like ponies.  We're ALL weird.

06:21 <Ali> We can then do crazy evil Joja things~ :P

06:21 <Schism> The trick is embracing-- NO!  *baps*

06:22 <PinkieShy> The fact that i was in special education and such when i was in school.. I got bullied all the way until the last year..

06:22 <Schism> Not embracing that, you evil woman!  *aieee*

06:22 <PinkieShy> I still remember 11th grade year teachers wasn't doing anything about it, It was at the point i was about to drop out.. But didn't.

06:22 <Schism> PinkieShy, I was one of the outlying group, so in much the same boat.  Though I realized later that I was completely insufferable.

06:22 <PinkieShy> They set it up where a teacher would meet up with me at the library a few hours a day and we'd do schoolwork and they'd teach me stuff one on one there.

06:23 <Ali> You know what sucked for me

06:23 <Ali> Mine wasn't found till I was already 17...

06:23 <PinkieShy> :/

06:23 <Schism> Engh.  11th grade at the earliest...

06:23 <PinkieShy> I didn't find out about my Autism until 22..

06:24 <Schism> I was diagnosed early, but the best medication available at the time was something with enormous side effects.  Also, I have gender issues, so that didn't help one whit.

06:24 <PinkieShy> They did say it was ADHD when i was in like 2nd grade.. But even teachers in high school told me that doesn't sound right from what they say

06:24 <PinkieShy> *saw

06:24 <Ali> This was also at a time Schism when it was mostly diagnosed with ADHD

06:24 <Schism> The 90s sucked.

06:24 <Ali> And to make it even worse, I was put on a TEN year waiting list.

06:24 <Schism> What the absolute--

06:25 <Schism> And they wonder why our generation is so screwed up!

06:25 <Ali> So yeah, I'm developmentally behind on certain things...

06:25 * Ali flops on her face again, why is she even talking about this. It only makes her feel worse.

06:25 <Schism> Here's a hint, people, it's screwed up because you MADE IT THAT WAY.

06:25 <Schism> Sorry, Ali.  :<  I sparked it.

06:26 <PinkieShy> Being in Special education they didn't teach us math like everybody else in the school was learning.. They told us it was like 6th grade level math..

06:26 <PinkieShy> Heck in 10th grade.. They did a test on all of us and said my reading wasn't where it should been..

06:27 <Schism> Conflating emotional problems with intellectual problems, as if those are the same modes of development, is one of those reasons I'm completely screwed up.

06:27 <Schism> And mathematics vs. reading.

06:28 <Schism> Not that I have an issue with either of those, but my social IQ is so completely screwed up that I'm an either an imbecile or a sociopath.

06:28 <Ali> Clint:  Bring me 35 copper ores.  I don't care that I have your pick, just do it.

06:28 <Schism> Eh, at least you get 7 copper bars out of it.

06:28 <Schism> Ali, do I seem like a reasonable person to you?  Discarding the previous conversation, that is.

06:29 <Ali> I'm a poor judge of that dear.  I wouldn't know to be honest.

06:29 <Schism> I don't know.  You're less biased than most people, because I have been put into positions of authority more often than I should be.

06:30 <Schism> I've somehow been a GM on corporate projects multiple times.

06:31 <Schism> I'm good at what I do, it's just that what I do is [pancakes].

06:31 <Ali> I'm never taken for something like that

06:31 <Ali> I've been shrugs off from promotions and stuff for things they refuse to tell me, even though I'm better qualified than the person they instate.

06:31 <Schism> You're lucky...

06:31 <Ali> Lucky?

06:31 <Schism> Well.  Not lucky.

06:31 <Ali> I don't like always being the person stepped on all the time

06:32 <Schism> I haaaate T2 positions and management and that sort of thing.

06:32 <Ali> Bottom rung of every damnable totem pole that exists.

06:32 <Schism> You should have been promoted, and I'm sorry that you haven't been.  .-.  And it sucks to be passed over in lieu of some ... I'm going to call it nepotistic employee.

06:33 <Schism> And of course, there's the fact that you're female, and so assuming a position of authority would result in the idiots in the chain of command feeling threatened, and gah I hate social dynamics.

06:34 * Ali sighs and just stops before she goes off on a tangent she won't be able to stop.

06:34 * Schism hugs the Ali. And grumbles about the lack of meritocracies.

06:35 <Ali> I don't talk about my real self, I talk thru the pony

06:35 <Ali> Cause its the only way I feel safe

06:38 <Schism> Well, I'd argue, but I have like six different characters I use as a combination of mouthpiece and ... um... well, sometimes they argue with me but that's okay.

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06:39 <Schism> "Once a character begins arguing with their creator, they truly become real."

06:40 <Schism> So the fox argues with me, as does the lizard.  My Shadowrun character slaps me upside the head, and my Whateley Universe character facepalms.

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06:41 <Schism> Adra, do your characters argue with you a lot?

06:41 * Schism supposes that Adra might not actually be around right now.

06:48 <Ali> Schism, I hide behind this pony cause every other fandom I was into left me..

06:49 <Ali> Got ditched from the pokemon TCG

06:49 <Ali> A board game group ditched me

06:50 <Schism> And you can't do Magic right now...

06:50 <Ali> Eeyup...

06:50 <Ali> hell I don't even feel like I belong..

06:52 <Schism> You do, trust me.  We're a bunch of weirdos occupying a chat room.  If nothing else, you're in good company.  Or familiar company, anyway.

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07:25 <Ali> Lordy why is it so cold outside

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07:27 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.

07:27 * Ali curls into ConfusionRift for warms

07:27 * ConfusionRift huggles Ali.

07:31 * Ali also tries to drag HoneyDrops out of hiding

07:32 * Schism provides ConfusionRift with a plush Witchfinder Private Pulsifer.

07:33 <ConfusionRift> Aaaaaa what? o_0

07:34 <Schism> Good Omens is a great book and a funny six-episode series.  ^^

07:36 <ConfusionRift> Oh, right. I still haven't check that out. (shrugs) I kinda have been just cycling through old videos and such.

07:37 * HoneyDrops hugs.

07:39 * Ali dun't wants HoneyDrops to be a lurker

07:44 * HoneyDrops snugs.

08:00 * ConfusionRift found one of the stupider post he has seen for the day.

08:01 <ConfusionRift> Okay... so... it seems someone doesn't know how commissions work.

08:07 <Schism> People are stupid.

08:07 <Finwe> Especially stupid people. Smart people aren't necessarily that stupid.

08:07 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift, Capt Koopz.

08:07 <Finwe> o7

08:08 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)

08:08 <Schism> But how the heck does it cause confusion?  You pay the artist (possibly an advance), artist completes the drawing, you pay the artist the balance if applicable.

08:08 <Schism> That's not rocket surgery.

08:09 <Finwe> You pay the artist in advance, the artist disappears and you get nothing.

08:09 <Schism> That is the reason chargebacks exist.

08:10 <Koopz> RAdm. Finwe o7

08:11 <Finwe> !seen CleverDerpy

08:11 <DerpyBot> Finwe: The last time I saw CleverDerpy was 2018-08-16 20:51:03 UTC

08:11 <Finwe> À propos.

08:11 <Koopz> !seen NoPonySpecial

08:11 <DerpyBot> Koopz: The last time I saw NoPonySpecial was 2016-03-08 23:22:42 UTC

08:11 <Koopz> !seen Faraday

08:11 <DerpyBot> Koopz: The last time I saw Faraday was 2017-01-29 19:57:08 UTC

08:11 <Finwe> !seen NoPony-Special

08:11 <DerpyBot> Finwe: The last time I saw NoPony-Special was 2018-06-07 21:21:37 UTC

08:12 <Finwe> That's VAdm NoPony-Special.

08:12 <Koopz> !seen ThatAnonPony

08:12 <DerpyBot> Koopz: The last time I saw ThatAnonPony was 2020-04-01 03:08:43 UTC

08:12 <Finwe> 08:20:27 -!- Pony|62001 [Pony62001@Pony-i454b4.cable.virginm.net] has quit

08:12 <Finwe> That was Lt ThatAnonPony.

08:12 <Finwe> Earlier today.

08:13 <Koopz> D:

08:13 <Finwe> Working undercover, though, so it is completely understandable that you missed him.

08:13 * Finwe patpats Koopz.

08:20 <ConfusionRift> Schism: That's how it should be, right? IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE! Then... why would someone think that it's about asking a person to do what they want, give a strict timeframe, CHANGE the timeframe to a closer date, and then ask the artist to give THEM the money and the product in question?!

08:21 * PrincessRainbows climbs onto ConfusionRift and giggles. Go horsey go!

08:21 <Schism> It's almost like someone ordering a piece of apparel online during a complete shutdown, then getting utterly incensed when it turns out that due to the fact that EVERYBODY IS ORDERING EVERYTHING ONLINE, there are delays in warehouse shipments!

08:21 <ConfusionRift> Again, not the requester paying the artist for a product, but the requester pushing the artist to pay them and give them said product. My head hurts sooo muuuch.

08:22 <Schism> That's just... ugh.

08:22 <Schism> The other day I had someone saying, "Hey, you can cancel the order that's moving through the warehouse and I won't take no for an answer."

08:23 <ConfusionRift> And no, it's not a refund or misunderstanding. That was supposed to be the initial transaction.

08:23 <Schism> I know, yours is worse in terms of ridiculosity.

08:24 <Schism> This customer, though, demanded Corporate's number, which I couldn't provide, and went through six different agents and two supervisors, all of whom told her that no, we can escalate a case to Corporate, but we can't do more.

08:24 <Schism> Yours is worse, by far, but ye gods.

08:25 * PrincessRainbows hugs Ali tightly too

08:26 <Schism> Amusingly, I provided her with each individual case number, because I am entirely secure in the fact that I handled the interaction appropriately, and while she might be looking to get me fired, that's not going to happen.

08:26 <ConfusionRift> Schism: FUN little thing that happened today. Yes, so much... (sighs)

08:27 <Schism> It's always nice to be able to provide customers with case numbers for feedback.

08:27 <Schism> "Sure, here you go.  Much good may it do you."

08:28 <ConfusionRift> So here's the thing. Due to things getting worse, state has escalated mask wearing to be mandatory when in public. Yes, now people could get cited or arrested if needed.

08:28 <Schism> Well, that's why I have a balaclava.

08:28 <Schism> Part of why.

08:28 <ConfusionRift> Like, actually. Not just "maybe, if we catch you. probably".

08:29 * PrincessRainbows makes grabby hooves at ConfusionRift and whimpers

08:29 <Schism> We're in the same boat.  Though it makes sense -- if you're in public, wear a godsdamned mask.

08:29 <Schism> If for no other reason than if you cough, your mask catches it.

08:29 * ConfusionRift grabbies PrincessRainbows and lightly pets.

08:30 <Schism> Even if it's not all that efficacious, droplets of water are the primary source of infection.

08:30 * PrincessRainbows makes tired little filly noises but still claps

08:31 <Schism> Any prevention, whatsoever, is better than none.

08:32 * Schism also provides PrincessRainbows with a chikkin omelet.

08:33 <ConfusionRift> So... one of the neighboring Walmarts got a bad rep because a customer got difficult with the greeters, who caught them entering without a mask. The person made too much of a fit, and police didn't want to deal with it. So they let them in... without a mask. Because of this, we were asking management for a solution to customers who are shopping without any cover or masks. "To avoid any bad PR and the such, you just have to

08:33 <ConfusionRift> attend the customer as normal, not say a thing, and continue with what you're supposed to do".

08:34 <Schism> Great.  Typhoid Mary rides again.

08:35 <ConfusionRift> I'm not safe.

08:35 <Schism> Excuse me for breaking out the French, but fuck those folks.  In a pandemic, the best way to proceed in a socially-responsible manner is to act as if you're already infected.

08:36 <Schism> So wear masks, gloves, etc. and limit interactions with other people -- and don't pick items on store shelves and/or produce and then put them back.

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08:37 <ConfusionRift> Worst part, associates are already using their optional LOAs, so the store had about... 6 associates during closing shift.

08:37 <Schism> Non-optional LOA for myself.  I got hit by a case of Strep which chained into DKA and I wound up in the hospital for three days.

08:38 <Schism> Which then led to 14 days of isolation and yeah.

08:38 <ConfusionRift> But you were actually sick... oh no... oh gods I just thought of something.

08:39 <Schism> Other agents, even W@H, are off, and everyone is just ... and all the customers...

08:40 <Schism> ConfusionRift, heh, thinking of what happens when your fellow workers who've used LOA actually get infected?

08:40 <ConfusionRift> I know this store. They would dare to hide an associate with a positive for C19.

08:40 <Schism> It's the Waltons.  EVERY FREAKING STORE would do that.

08:40 <Schism> Just to earn a little more money.

08:41 <Schism> We encountered exactly that situation up here in Canada.  A grocery store owner -- franchise owner and city councilmember -- didn't report his COVID-19 infection until it killed a fellow councilman.

08:42 <Schism> He received the 'citizen of the year' award in 2016.  That's not going to swing his way again.

08:43 <ConfusionRift> In any case, i still got my optional LOA. Everyone already knows that if i have to use it for WHATEVER reason, I would. I don't care for the store enough to risk my life. If I have to walk out those doors early and call for LOA, I will do so with no regrets... aside from no pay for 14 days. Which means nothing at the moment.

08:43 <ConfusionRift> Schism: That's my fear.

08:43 <ConfusionRift> That, and the customers who come in coughing up a storm while not wearing any cover.

08:44 <Schism> It means something, but it doesn't mean that you should risk your health.  I just worry that companies like Wal*Mart might take a leave of absence as a reason to shitcan you.

08:44 * PrincessRainbows grabs her pacifier and her favorite plushie then curls up fo sleepies

08:44 <Schism> While it's perfectly reasonable to take said LOA, they might decide to eliminate you due to Reasons.

08:45 <Schism> And while that's illegal, good luck proving it in an At Will state.

08:45 <Schism> (Can you tell that I hate these people?)

08:46 <ConfusionRift> Oh, the news and social media would LOVE to hear how Wal-Mart associates who took an optional leave in order to protect themselves and others to follow this Stay At Home garbage got all fired.

08:46 <Schism> Oh, don't get me wrong, there'd be a lot of feedback.

08:47 <Schism> And I'm sure that each employee would be paid $500 to shut them up.

08:47 <ConfusionRift> $500 is nothing anymore.

08:47 <Schism> Yes, that's why I pulled that specific number out of my rear end.

08:49 <ConfusionRift> I know if that happened, others will still continue the fire. Simply because that's not even a two weeks check. Heck, due to the hour chopping, I earn less now... despite being paid x1.5.

08:49 <Schism> I'd love to know that you could get 6 months of unemployment insurance out of this, if you do get canned.  I also don't think that anything of the sort will ever happen...

08:50 <Schism> Fuudge.  You'd think that you would get more hours based on there being fewer workers.

08:50 * ConfusionRift shakes his head.

08:50 <Schism> Not that you really want to be around the public more than you are, but still.

08:51 <ConfusionRift> Unless I stay behind... which I'm not in favor for, especially since no one overnight is wearing any protection either.

08:51 <Schism> I'm working 44 hour weeks now.  Part of that is blowback from being on 14-day isolation, but part of it is because I let my managers know, "Hey, I'm fine with this," and like a chump I signed up for the exact amount of hours they can pay me without going into overtime.

08:51 <Schism> Nobody overnight is-- what?!

08:52 <Schism> Well, I'll not be buying from Wal*Mart except for shrinkwrapped products, and hand sanitizer is the order of the day.

08:52 * ConfusionRift takes out the megaphone. "No one overnight is wearing any masks, gloves, or forms of protection." Turns it off.

08:52 <Ali> Work? what's that?

08:53 <ConfusionRift> You know what? Yeah, i have to stop. I feel my anxiety kicking again.

08:53 <Schism> Ali: It's that thing I do in my bedroom when people are buying a lot of shoes online and want to know why it takes 10 days to get out of our warehouse, when they have ALREADY BEEN INFORMED OF THIS.

08:54 <Schism> ConfusionRift, hey, at least commiseration helps?

08:55 * ConfusionRift sighs. "It kinda does... but I feel I'm burning the same thing others have burned for the past few weeks."

08:56 <Schism> Ali and Cepheid have been playing a game named 'Autonauts'.  It's a little thingy about programming robots to perform manual tasks and eventually turn your citizens into machines.

08:57 <Schism> At least, I assume the latter.

08:57 <Ali> I'm stuck at tier 3

08:57 * ConfusionRift nods. "A form of algorithmic programming."

08:57 <Ali> Cause there's a lot of stupid going on

08:57 <Schism> Yup, you've gotta get your bots to program bots to do things bots could do.

08:57 <Ali> Like why do I need to research some 25k tech to make a bucket that holds more than one serving of water

08:58 <Schism> I think I told you like 6 days ago to form a bucket brigade.

08:58 <Schism> It's the stupidest form of aqueduct.

08:59 <Finwe> Facilities for producing larger buckets require a whole lot of advanced technology.

08:59 <Finwe> As any real-world example would no doubt prove.

08:59 <ConfusionRift> Sorry for the sudden theme shift... but this was just priceless. https://twitter.com/VinesauceGifs/status/1254657155082436608 It's a bit loud, so careful with ze volume.

09:00 <Schism> Well, that's a thing!  The reaction is of course what makes it.

09:01 <Schism> ConfusionRift, I'm watching Good Omens, and okay this has gotten really dark in comparison to the book.

09:02 <Finwe> Schism: The TV-series?

09:03 <Schism> Yes, but I've read the book like a million times.

09:03 <Finwe> Schism: Keep an eye on small details and you will be surprised.

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09:05 <Finwe> For example, you can see Sir Terry's hat hanging on the peg in Aziraphale's bookshop.

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09:07 * ConfusionRift checks this Autonauts game.

09:09 <Finwe> Another detail is Mr Young's licence plate, which reads "SID RAT".

09:11 <Finwe> And indeed, Crowley is played by the tenth Doctor, Aziraphale by House and Metatron is voiced by the Master.

09:12 <Finwe> Also, all the bunnies in the film playing in the cinema are voiced by Neil Gaiman. o3o

09:13 <Finwe> And one of the papers circulating Crowley when he ponders where in the universe to go reads "Gallifrey".

09:14 <ConfusionRift> Oh right... I shouldn't buy anything at the moment. Let's say... I did a large expense. (shrugs) So I'll have to wait probably till Thursday.

09:14 <Finwe> And probably a lot more, but I've only watched the series once.

09:15 * Finwe bestows Schism with a task to find the rest of easter eggs in the series.

09:48 <Schism> "Your CAR is on FIRE!"

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10:41 * PrincessRainbows makes scared little filly noises and hugs ConfusionRift very tight

10:42 * ConfusionRift huggles and patpats PrincessRainbows.

10:46 * PrincessRainbows makes grabby hooves at ConfusionRift

10:49 * ConfusionRift grabbies and continues the patting on PrincessRainbows.

10:55 * Schism finishes watching "Good Omens" and...

10:55 <Schism> Well, that was fantastic.

11:04 * Filly_Nightmares mewls and suckles on Schism floof

11:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1915 [ http://tinyurl.com/ybxtzkhu ]

11:07 * ConfusionRift flopples now. "Sleeeeep tiiiiiiiiiiiiim-" Runs out of battery.

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11:33 <Finwe> Miss Filly_Nightmares.

11:34 * Finwe doffs his hat.

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13:50 <Cepheid> I wasn't aware landscaping and street cleaning were essential services.

14:01 <Cepheid> https://i.imgur.com/7nmqy5n.gifv

14:10 <Finwe> Aww, doge eager to get food.

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14:36 <Cepheid> https://i.imgur.com/OkFHEMs.jpeg

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14:52 <Cepheid> Stupid for doing it or not, people nearly(or actually) killing themselves because of administration of bleach is not a "good thing." I only mention this because I see people acting like it is.

14:57 <Cepheid> https://i.redd.it/n8dfuukihcv41.jpg

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15:15 <Cepheid> https://v.redd.it/h17mlgwwmcv41 Today I learned that even human babies act this way to mirrors.  Thought it was limited to kittens and puppies and other smol critters.

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15:34 <Cepheid> https://v.redd.it/cap7d9uc28v41

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16:06 <Cepheid> So.

16:06 <Cepheid> Right now, my game has no name.  Not even a codename.

16:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Show Song Remix: Daniel Ingram - Celestia's Ballad (Snow Swirl Remix) [Chillout/Future Garage] [ http://tinyurl.com/y8cr8n87 ]

16:07 <Cepheid> In the code, the core object is just called UnnamedGame.  The title bar reads "Unnamed Game."

16:07 <Cepheid> What're the bets that, five years down the road, when the game is done, and ready to be released, it somehow acquires the official name of "Unnamed Game"?

16:11 * Cepheid sets up a Windows VM.

16:13 <Cepheid> ... Wait, what am I doing?  I can just boot into Windows to resolve this.

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17:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Online My Little Pony Conventions - The List!  [ http://tinyurl.com/y7svhheb ]

17:10 <Cepheid> Am I wrong for being an optimist about people, and believing that even the most boneheaded of people do not deserve the consequences of following an incredibly stupid suggestion that could cause irreparable harm to them?

17:12 * Schism awakens. "Yes and no. I feel somewhat similar."

17:13 <Schism> People can be SOMEWHAT excused for drinking "miracle mineral solution", because that's sales tactics and the two parts are individually comparatively harmless.  However, chugging a shot of Clorox?  No.

17:14 <Cepheid> Well, there's a lot of variables and things to consider.

17:14 <Cepheid> Right now, we're being inundated with lots of negative information by the media, because for purposes of viewers, it works.

17:14 <Cepheid> Even the sanest, most stable, most reasonable person however, can be broken by this as time goes on.

17:14 <Schism> CNN finally bit the bullet and used the L-word.

17:15 <Cepheid> And that leads to behaviours that they would never follow up on normally.

17:15 <Schism> Mmm.

17:15 <Cepheid> And of course, the hysteria causes panic in general.

17:15 <Cepheid> So, tell me.

17:15 <Cepheid> How many of these people are legitimately stupid?  And how many of them are seeking a resolution to their panic?  Their stress?  Their concerns?

17:15 <Schism> Yeah, but panic shouldn't lead people to discard even the slightest hint of common sense.  And typically, it doesn't.

17:16 <Cepheid> I know there are labels on the bottles, and it's general common sense, but if you're not a chemist, would you know how and why something is toxic?  How toxic?

17:16 <Cepheid> There are toxic things that we can eat in small amounts and not kill ourselves or harm.

17:16 <Cepheid> Many medications actually fall under this, given the whole overdose thing.

17:16 <Cepheid> People lose reason when panicked, when stressed.

17:16 <Schism> 'Stupid' is an interesting adjective.  I wouldn't use it in this case.  I would instead say ... hm.  Impaired in reasoning, if peopple are doing things they wouldn't otherwise do.

17:17 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.

17:17 <Cepheid> There's another thing, too.

17:17 <Cepheid> People aren't immutable.  At least, most aren't.

17:17 <Cepheid> If we see someone about to do something dangerous, we can stop them, inform them why it's dangerous.

17:17 <Schism> Those who order products online during a shutdown and think that they'll arrive in 2 days, those people are stupid.  People whose actions are modified due to panic and propaganda?  Slightly less so.

17:18 <Schism> Mmm.  We can try to inform them.

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17:19 <Cepheid> And yet, people are more inclined, with respect to certain groups, to just stand by and watch, rather than try to convince them it's a bad idea.

17:19 <Schism> We can try to let them know that Qanon are doing their very best to murder people, and that the imPOTUS just read the equivalent of a single Powerpoint slide before telling people to put sunlight into their body.

17:19 <Cepheid> I won't lie, I don't like Trump supporters.  I'm biased against them, and I don't agree with their views, but I still think it's a worthwhile effort to try and convince them not to harm themselves.

17:19 <Schism> (Did you know that 'Sunlight' is a brand of dish detergent?)

17:19 <Schism> Agreed.

17:20 <Schism> Education is, if nothing else, the responsibility of us as sapient beings, as our fellow travelers can always change for the better.  (Or the worse, but that's their choice.)

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17:20 <Cepheid> Of course, the problem with explaining things..

17:21 <Schism> Mm.  How to do so.

17:21 <Cepheid> How do you explain it in a way that people will understand?

17:21 <Cepheid> I don't consider it enough to say "Please don't follow Trump's suggestion and inject disinfectant."

17:22 <Cepheid> People are more convinced by adding in a "Why" clause.

17:22 <Cepheid> "Because it will burn your veins, hurt like a *****, and you will end up in the hospital with a considerable bill.  A lot of people will also laugh at you."

17:23 <Cepheid> "You may even die."

17:23 <Schism> The worst part of that is that more people will be convinced by the money bit than anything else.

17:23 <Schism> But whatever works in a pinch.

17:24 <Cepheid> I don't know where and when I changed from being a pessimist about a lot of things to more of an optimist.

17:25 <Cepheid> People are pessimistic about the outcome of COVID-19, and the resulting effects on the markets, and the social structure of the world.  I'm more optimistic.  Things look bad, and will get worse.  But at some point, it'll turn around and things will get better, because there are people out there working to make things better.

17:26 <Cepheid> I'm probably a fool for thinking this way, though.

17:26 * Cepheid isn't optimistic about himself, clearly.

17:28 * Cepheid hums. Now has font rendering implemented properly.

17:34 <Schism> Sooner or later, this epidemic -will- pass, the only question is the toll which it'll take.

17:34 <Schism> And whether our governments learn from the situation [insert maniacally derisive laughter here] or simply wait for the next epidemic with bated breath.

17:35 <Schism> And what lessons they do learn.

17:42 <Cepheid> I get the feeling there's going to be lasting effects for the governments of the world as a result of this.

17:45 <Cepheid> So, funny note.  I don't need a strong dose of vyvanse to get me to work.  The 30mg dose is sufficient for me to start working like crazy.  *IF* I can get myself to start working.

17:45 <Schism> Well.  That's ADD medication for you.  I'll get you to do something, the question is what.

17:49 <Cepheid> And Spitfire's telling me to stop for a bit.

17:49 <Cepheid> He wants on my lap

17:52 <Cepheid> Right.  Time to close this thread of discussion on Reddit.  People keep working to counter my arguments and really...  I don't want to see people justifying leaving people to suffer the consequences of their actions.

17:53 <Cepheid> Especially a consequence that could result in death.  Trying to justify it is like trying to justify a murder.

17:57 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/LuminousOcean/status/1254831900881010691?s=19 Schism.  In case you know what the term might be.

17:58 <Schism> I think the Greater Internet [Jerkwad] Theory covers it.  (The actual term we all know, but it starts with an F.)

18:00 <Cepheid> It's because of that, that I can never debate on the Internet.

18:01 <Cepheid> We all know what happens when I get worked up.

18:03 <Cepheid> As it is, I am trying to contain some irritation as is.  Feels like pressure pressing against my heart from all directions.

18:10 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/chodedickenergy/status/1254285868329660416?s=19

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18:29 <Schism> Cepheid: there are a few useful skills I've learned in case I ever get sent into the past.  One of them is the acquisition of aluminium from bauxite.

18:30 <Cepheid> Oh?

18:31 <Schism> Sure.  You've gotta filter the iron oxide (rust) and associated materials from the bauxite, and then drop it into a vat with an aluminium oxide crystal.  From there it precipitates.

18:32 <Schism> Aluminium is one of the most common materials on the surface of the planet, but it's also hard as hell to figure out the best way to isolate it.

18:34 <Schism> The Hall-Heroult process is also a viable way to do so in the absence of industrial equipment, though it involves lye (easily enough obtained) and a source of electricity (pegasi will do).

18:35 <Schism> In the absence of pegasi I could make small quantities via assorted acids until I could scale up.

18:35 <Cepheid> Heh.

18:35 <Schism> Vitriolic oil should be acidic enough to produce a sensible current.

18:37 <Schism> I'm just imagining the look on the face of the alchemist from whom I buy the materials.  "Wait, you want twelve tubs of lye and how many lemons?"

18:39 <Schism> (If I can't get vitriol, lemons do serve as an... hm.  I forget.  Are they the anode, or the cathode?)

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18:46 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/LuminousOcean/status/1254844164619022339 This is what I spent ten hours working on yesterday, and two hours today.

18:46 <Cepheid> Text rendering.

18:47 <Schism> Cepheid, you're going to hate me for what I'm about to say.

18:48 <Schism> After spending so long creating them, you're doubtlessly incredibly proud -- for good reason!  They took a while to develop, and they look good.  ... They're love letters.

18:50 <Cepheid> Heh.

18:52 <Schism> My earlier statement about kerning is both right and wrong.  You can use kerning for evil.  Broken kerning can illustrate an unhinged state.

18:53 <Schism> It's like the uncanny valley applied to text, and it's really, really effective if you can pull it off right.

18:53 <Cepheid> Kerning's a pain, as stated.  Unless the adjustment is a zero vector (That is, (0,0)), it's going to introduce a lot of data ballooning unless it's done dynamically by analysis of the glyphs.

18:54 <Schism> Monospace isn't really a solution either.  While it works in some instances, typically people expect that lowercase Ls and Is will be grouped together.

18:55 <Schism> Unless it's a trademark of the character.

18:55 <Cepheid> In the worst case, assume N glyphs in a font, and that each one requires kerning information associated with every other glyph.  Thus, for each glyph, there is N - 1 kerning pairs.

18:56 <Cepheid> Thus, for 256 glyphs, you have 65280 kerning pairs.

18:56 <Cepheid> Unless you decide to include a kerning pair for the situation in which the same glyph is repeated two or more times.

18:56 <Schism> You don't have to do that exactly.  You can set a limitation on distance with each singular glyph.  S has a larger space than I, for example.  It's still not foolproof...

18:56 <Cepheid> Then you have exactly 65536 pairs.

18:56 <Cepheid> But again, that's worst case.

18:57 <Cepheid> In most cases, the kerning pair information is likely to be a zero vector.  Thus, it can be discarded.

18:57 <Cepheid> If there's no kerning information, then it's assumed to be a zero vector.

18:57 <Schism> Yeah, and the human brain also has a tendency to read things properly even when they're a messed up group.  I can still see a face in the moon, even when I shouldn't -- pareidolia strikes hard.

18:58 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.

18:58 <Cepheid> That said, I am kinda curious as to how bad the kerning would be in DejaVu Sans normal.

18:58 * Schism places a hand on Cepheid's shoulder. "There are some things we should not know."

18:59 <Cepheid> It'll take like, 15 minutes for me to find out.

18:59 <Schism> Godspeed, sir.

19:00 <Schism> May you please send us images of the hellscape in which you find yourself?

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19:09 <Cepheid> 1,542.

19:09 <Cepheid> That's how many kerning pairs there are for glyphs 0 through 255 in DejaVu Sans.

19:10 <Cepheid> As for why I call it a kerning pair, it's because it uses two glyphs to get the information.

19:10 <Cepheid> The previous glyph, and the next glyph, to be rendered.

19:10 <Schism> That could be minimized in a lot of ways.

19:11 <Cepheid> That was minimized.

19:11 <Cepheid> I counted only the cases where the kerning vector wasn't a zero vector.  That is, had a non-zero X or Y component.

19:11 <Cepheid> Otherwise, it'd have been 65536.

19:12 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, yes, for compression purposes, it can be reduced further.

19:13 <Cepheid> Remove duplicate entries, store the list, then for each pair, store the index into that list.

19:15 <Cepheid> Doing that, there's only 10 unique pairs.

19:17 <Cepheid> Actually, I made a small mistake.  It's 44.

19:17 <Cepheid> Still, a far cry from the 1,542.

19:18 <Cepheid> I don't want to write code anymore today.  My head's feeling funky, and I want to commit atrocities.

19:19 * Cepheid didn't take any aleve today, or any painkillers. Is working again to try and ween self off of them.

19:21 <Cepheid> ... Though a part of the lack of wanting to write code right now, is I'm going down a rabbit hole.

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19:27 <Schism> TFW your mother calls you with a technical issue which is solved by a reboot.

19:28 <Schism> "Hold down the power button for five seconds." "Done, it's black." "Turn it on and immediately hold F11." "It's spinning." "You didn't hold F11 fast enough." "Should I do so now?" "No, let it work."

19:30 <Schism> Transpires that Windows 10 returned to an earlier point on its own and everything is perfectly fine now.  But I did let her know how to restore.

19:30 <Cepheid> Heh.

19:37 <Schism> Worst comes to worst, I've taught my mother how to do a hard shutdown on a laptop.

19:38 * Cepheid shall finish this another time. Blames Schism for it, though.

19:38 <Schism> I'm a plethora of bad decisions today.

19:38 <Cepheid> Basically, I was working to implement kerning.

19:39 <Schism> I am sorry about the derail, Cepheid.  

19:39 <Cepheid> It's a fair case, for UI purposes, at least.

19:40 <Schism> You sound like you were about to stop anyway, but I likely facilitated that.

19:40 <Cepheid> And for conversations, if any happen.

19:40 <Cepheid> Allows more text on the screen, etc.

19:40 <Cepheid> That said, encoded stuff will be rendered in a block font, so that the encoded glyphs match up with the decoded glyphs.

19:40 <Schism> I do like how kerning can basically illustrate the nature of a character, too.  One webcomic artist intentionally used inconsistent kerning and fonts to illustrate the mental instability of a few characters.

19:41 * Cepheid is just gonna use a substitution cipher for encoded/decoded text.

19:41 <Schism> He was totally guano insane, and when he found and centered himself, his font cleared up.

19:41 <Cepheid> Heh.

19:43 <Schism> Just a thing to consider with regards to your project.

19:45 <Cepheid> That'd require a bit of work, but it wouldn't be impossible to do.

19:45 <Schism> Of course, there's something to be said for the classic "H  E  L  L  O".

19:46 <Cepheid> It'd basically involve doing stuff like creating control tags and such for strings, to specify different attributes for the text that follows.

19:46 <Cepheid> Like color, size, if there's any offsets, etc.

19:46 <Schism> While you're at it, you can write subscript and superscript.

19:46 <Schism> That can illustrate variances in the voice.

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20:49 <PinkieShy> Almost had a house fire..

20:50 <PinkieShy> Left popcorn in the microwave a little to long and had to throw it out.. But looked it as it was smoking so bad and the popcorn was like charred black.. that is a huge oof

20:50 <PinkieShy> Glad a fire didn't happen as umm.. Calling 911 and getting my doggos out of the house in time would be a huge struggle for me

20:51 <PinkieShy> Also hey guys :3

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21:03 <Cepheid> My body did not like eating.

21:32 <Stormspark> one of my old roommates years ago actually set a bag of popcorn on fire in the microwave.  Threw it out the back door (during a big snowstorm, it landed in a drift).  Continued smoking for like 4 hours despite it being like 30 degrees out and snowing pretty hard

21:36 <PinkieShy> Stormspark this bag that i had, Its in the kitchen sink right now still.. ITs not smoking anymore but the smell is awful

21:36 <PinkieShy> It was charred to the point a bunch of the popcorn is sticking together

21:44 * Schism finishes his nap. Twists body, receives several pops in response.

21:44 <Schism> PinkieShy, oh no!  I ... I've done that myself.

21:45 <Schism> These days, in lieu of microwave, I make popcorn on the stove.

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22:21 <Schism> Yerp... alas, AnthroCon is cancelled.  But we saw it coming.

22:23 <Ali> Furry boy eh Schism? :P

22:29 <Schism> Yes, I've made that clear on a number of occasions.  :P  Amma fox.

22:29 * Ali nods and pat pats Schism

22:30 <Schism> And I'm almost certain that Cepheid is a cat.

22:30 * PinkieShy stretches

22:30 <Schism> Anyway, cancelled cons are always an 'aw' moment, whether or not you're a part of the community.

22:30 <PinkieShy> I wanna take a nap but at the same time i wanna play games XD

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22:31 <Schism> I'd point at Taoki, but they just left.

22:32 <Ali> They come on and off

22:32 <Ali> Do they even talk Schism?

22:32 <Schism> They do now and then, tho I think they're more active elsewhere.

22:32 *** Joins: Taoki (MirceaKitsu@Pony-7ul.gjo.113.93.IP)

22:32 * Schism slides a chocoburger over to Taoki.

22:33 <Cepheid> Yep, 100% cat.

22:33 <Schism> (People eat chocobos all the time.  While they're worthwhile mounts and battle companions, they're also farm-raised produce.)

22:34 * HoneyDrops squeaks and hugs Ali.

22:34 <Schism> Chocobo flank is nice in a stew, but I'm always going to be a fan of chocobo breast fajitas.

22:34 * Ali never can get into furry. Even though they watched Sonic and followed SATAM and its comics.

22:34 <Schism> It's an Ul'dahn delicacy.

22:35 <Schism> Eh.  Sonic is a -part- of the furry thing, but the Archie Comics thing is only a small subset.

22:35 <Stormspark> I don't like furry stuff either

22:35 <Stormspark> anthro creeps me out badly

22:36 <Schism> Mm, uncanny valley writ large?

22:36 <Stormspark> pretty much

22:36 <Schism> Hey, it's a thing.  I've never really hit the uncanny valley except -- EXCEPT! -- for the first rendition of that godsdamned Sonic movie.  Those teeth...

22:36 <Stormspark> I don't like horses either though.  In order of least creepy to most creepy (they are all creepy so it's all relative): humanized < anthro < horsified

22:37 <Schism> Let's not forget the Thestrals from the Harry Potter series.

22:38 <Stormspark> yeah

22:38 <Schism> Those skeletonized horsies which Luna Lovegood patted and fed apples.

22:38 <Stormspark> I don't like horses at all, let alone skeletal ones

22:39 <Schism> With regards to other quadrupeds, I do often just make sure I catch a glimpse of the llamas at our local park while I'm on my commute.  It's a spark which helps the start of my day.

22:39 <Schism> Because they're so fluffy.

22:39 <Stormspark> lol

22:40 <Schism> I know, it's childish, but seeing a llama just puts a smile on my face.

22:42 <Ali> Till they spit at you

22:43 <Schism> I do maintain safe social distancing standards.  Remember, folks, remain 6 feet from any fellow llamas.

22:44 <Cepheid> Meanwhile here I am loving uncanny valley stuff.

22:45 * Schism shoves a Cyriak video over to Cepheid.

22:46 <Cepheid> Yep.

22:46 <Schism> Uncanny valley and the Droste effect, that's Cyriak -- and your thing.

22:48 *** Quits: Taoki (MirceaKitsu@Pony-7ul.gjo.113.93.IP) (Quit: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/mircea/)

22:48 <Schism> Ali, don't look up a Cyriak video unless you want to be profoundly creeped out.

22:51 <Cepheid> Mick Gordon watched a stream of DOOM Eternal being played by a vtuber.  It is catching attention because of how he commented on it.

22:51 <Cepheid> https://i.redd.it/f1ausyas8bv41.jpg

22:53 <Cepheid> Oh good gods my stomach.  Every time I eat or drink, my stomach churns violently and painfully. X.x

22:53 * Schism looks outside. Pauses. "Why is someone playing a trombone?"

22:53 <Schism> Augh...

22:59 <Schism> Okay.  So someone just walked down the street, playing "The Saints Go Marching On" with a bass trombone.

23:00 <Cepheid> Heh.

23:00 <Schism> Oh gods, they're coming back.

23:00 <Cepheid> People do strange things when bored.

23:00 <Schism> No kidding...

23:01 <Cepheid> My mom suggest yelling at them, telling them to **** off.

23:02 <Schism> Pff, I'm not going to do this.  It's a creative way to let out energies, and it certainly beats blaring rap music.

23:02 <Schism> I'm kind of annoyed, but it's a bemused sort of annoyment.

23:03 <Ali> Schism, Fall 2 Year 1

23:03 <Ali> Notice on the help wanted

23:03 <Schism> How many hazelnuts have you gotten?

23:03 <Ali> I need Bok Choy to pull a prank on my dad

23:03 <Ali> None so far

23:03 <Schism> Oh.  WELL THAT'S KARMA, ALI!  You help Jojamart, you get impossible quests!

23:04 * Schism flailyhooves.

23:04 <Ali> HEY I got my greenhouse already so bleh :P

23:04 <Ali> Only had to shill out 35k gold instead of doing animal craps

23:04 * Schism wigglyhooves! :P

23:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: My Little Pony Cosplay Compilation #86 [ http://tinyurl.com/ycom6blt ]

23:09 <Lumindia> https://www.humblebundle.com/store/promo/golden-week-sale/

23:09 <Lumindia> :eyes:

23:12 <Schism> Mm, no, while I appreciate the translation teams for those games, I own many of them and those I don't simply appeal.  Also, the best review for a Sakura game is "It's a Sakura game".

23:12 <Schism> simply don't appeal*

23:13 <Lumindia> fair enough

23:14 <Lumindia> figured I'd drop it here just in case

23:14 *** Joins: Taoki (MirceaKitsu@Pony-7ul.gjo.113.93.IP)

23:14 <Schism> Much appreciated, anyway.

23:16 * PrincessRainbows boops Ali's horn randomly

23:17 <Schism> Actually, Lumindia, if one were to pick up a single item from that sale, it'd be this one.  https://www.humblebundle.com/store/idea-factory-sale

23:20 <Lumindia> so basically the "NepNep" bundle

23:20 <Schism> Pretty much.  If I ever saw the .hack// games bundled like that, I'd buy them in a heartbeat.

23:22 <Schism> Also, Lumindia, HECKING MOWEN/ROWENA.  I have not gotten any decent starred items ALL WEEK.

23:22 <Lumindia> kek

23:23 <Schism> The only star I've gotten is that damned Mi'qote who wants me to fish up SHRIMP!

23:23 <Lumindia> bah, whatgever

23:23 <Lumindia> SOUP time

23:23 <Lumindia> Time to go SOUP

23:23 <Schism> I'm not going to be feeding your godsforsaken orphans shrimp scampi!  ... or shrimp and rice soup.  Damnit, I'm going to be serving those kids gumbo, aren't I?

23:24 <Schism> Shrimp, red beans, rice, onions and mushrooms in a bowl of broth.

23:25 <Schism> And they're going to be the most delicious shrimp ever fished up in that pond.  ._.

23:26 <Lumindia> okay I was going to say 'which miqo'te, there's two'

23:27 <Lumindia> also heck you Zhloe is just trying her best

23:27 <Schism> Zhloe has an infinite supply of pineapples!

23:27 <Lumindia> They're for the pudding!

23:27 <Schism> But yeah, I feel sorry for her.  .-.

23:27 <Schism> Pineapple rice and shrimp is a weird combination, but I can see it working.

23:28 <Schism> Okay, doing dishes.  I need to clean the kitchen before we make GINOMOUS BURRITOS.

23:29 <Schism> GINORMOUS* and so on and so forth.

23:29 *** Joins: Pony|37914 (Pony37914@Pony-i454b4.cable.virginm.net)

23:31 <Schism> Lumindia: may I please complain about how PLD has fifty thousand actions?

23:35 <Lumindia> https://i.imgur.com/goMwgUV.png Samurai wants a word with you

23:37 <Schism> Boy do you have a limited hotbar.

23:37 <Schism> I run FOUR of them.

23:41 <Cepheid> https://i.imgur.com/rNTUstO.gifv

23:42 <Schism> Cepheid: the ability to manipulate a paissa is only viable in HW.

23:44 <Schism> Lumindia, prepare to witness the hottest mess.

23:45 * PrincessRainbows also licks PinkieShy till he's dripping and barks

23:46 <Schism> Lumindia: https://i.imgur.com/ML9rd8j.png

23:56 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/vress_shark/status/1254352712189145088?s=19

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