Log archive of EquestriaDaily for Monday, 2020-07-13

00:01 <Schism> Finwe: It turns out that I'm female, by the way.  Kind of an odd situation that, but lots of folks have told me, 'Wait.  You didn't already KNOW?'

00:01 *** Joins: Pony|25418 (Pony25418@Pony-i454b4.cable.virginm.net)

00:01 <Schism> So's ya know.

00:01 <Cepheid> Same with me.

00:02 <Finwe> Lt Pony|25418.

00:02 <Finwe> o7

00:02 <Cepheid> Hum.  Let's take a look see here...

00:02 <Cepheid> www.astrolog.org/labyrnth/algrithm.htm *Uses this*

00:04 *** Quits: Filly_Nightmares (Surreal_Nig@Cutest.Floofy.Changeling.Batpone) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)

00:04 <Cepheid> I want to generate a 2D Braid maze.

00:04 <Cepheid> Ideally, with uniformity.

00:05 <Cepheid> Which leaves me with the Aldous-Broder Algorithm or Wilson's Algorithm for generating the initial maze.

00:05 *** Joins: Filly_Nightmares (Surreal_Nig@Cutest.Floofy.Changeling.Batpone)

00:06 * Schism rolls over to Filly_Nightmares and provides a mango chocolate coffee cake!

00:07 <Cepheid> Naive approach would be to generate a standard Perfect type maze, adding any dead-ends to a list.  Once the maze is filled, go over each dead end, and knock down at least one wall.

00:07 *** Pony|25418 is now known as ThatAnonPony

00:07 * ThatAnonPony boops Finwe.

00:08 * Schism lounges upon sofapone.

00:08 * ThatAnonPony is comfortable sofapon'.

00:08 * Schism nods, and also adds a Filly_Nightmares pillow.

00:17 <Cepheid> http://weblog.jamisbuck.org/2011/1/20/maze-generation-wilson-s-algorithm.html This is a fun little algorithm to watch.

00:20 <Schism> This of course assumes a completely full space...

00:21 <Cepheid> It's easy to adapt to create EO-styled maps(That is, hallways and such are separated by at least one cell's distance in every direction)

00:24 <Cepheid> Actually, no.

00:24 <Cepheid> With this algorithm it's not possible to do it while generating.

00:24 <Cepheid> The problem is that you have to check every cell around the current cell, aside from the one you've come from, to see if it meets the requirements.

00:24 <Cepheid> Which makes it impossible to "connect" to an existing cell as a result.

00:25 <Cepheid> Well, there's still a way to do it.

00:26 <PinkieShy> I feel like i could sleep right now..

00:26 <PinkieShy> Like sleep and not wake up until at least 6am..

00:28 <Schism> Then sleep.

00:28 <Schism> You can adjust later, but you clearly need it.

00:30 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.

00:30 <PinkieShy> I got doggos though that needs me.. So sadly not option at moment.. >_>

00:31 <Schism> Take them for a walk and then flop upon them?

00:32 *** Quits: FruitNibbler (Eogan@Pony-ju8jdt.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Connection closed)

00:33 <Cepheid> Blegh.

00:33 <Cepheid> I think next time I see my eye doctor, I might ask for a prescription for contact lenses, if possible.  Keep the glasses for reading at night in bed, but any other time..

00:37 <Cepheid> Hum, let's see..

00:39 <Schism> Hmm.  I would do contacts, but I fear that I have this little thing about putting them in my eyes.

00:42 * Finwe scrunchymuzzles at ThatAnonPony.

00:42 <Cepheid> 3 - 1 cell.  4 - 1 cell.  5 - 2 cells.  6 - 2 cells.  7 - 3 cells.  Looks like the formula is...  floor((dim - 1) / 2)

00:42 <Finwe> *scrunch*

00:42 <Finwe> !lullaby

00:42 * DerpyBot carries Finwe off to bed

00:42 * DerpyBot tucks Finwe in and hums a lullaby

00:42 <Finwe> !shoo

00:42 * DerpyBot sways from side to side, quietly humming "shoo be doo shoo shoo be doo"

00:42 <Finwe> Good night, everypony!

00:46 <Cepheid> Hum.

00:48 *** Joins: FruitNibbler (Eogan@Pony-iks1el.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)

00:49 <Schism> TFW you were thinking, "Wait, my eyes are hazel," and then you look at them and they're freaking malachite.

00:49 <Cepheid> The algorithm is straightforward.  Pick a random cell, make it "Open".  Then pick another random cell, and start walking from that spot until you encounter an open cell, while recording the direction moved from each cell, overwriting previously recorded cells if you overlap the current walk.

00:50 <Cepheid> Once you encounter that cell, to back to the start of the path, and walk from that spot, to the final spot, using the recorded movements, and open each cell.

00:52 <Cepheid> This, of course, means having two grids.  One is the maze, the other is for storing the path.

00:57 <Cepheid> I should be doing this on my laptop.

00:59 <Schism> Oh god.

00:59 <Cepheid> What?

00:59 <Schism> I just realized.  Cepheid, you've seen End of Evangelion, yes?

00:59 <Cepheid> Amazingly?  I have not.

01:00 <Schism> Well, have you seen the _end_ of it?

01:00 <Cepheid> No.

01:00 <Schism> Strange.  Okay, would you mind a spoiler?

01:01 <Cepheid> Sure, I am not big on the series.  I'm familiar with it, and I did watch it, but it just didn't... hold my interest.

01:02 <Schism> Fair enough.  Basically, end of "End of Evangelion", Lilith completed the goal to turn the whole world back into its constituents.  Souls were released as the whole world turned into an orange slime, and then were reborn anew in a different world.  Standard apocalypse.

01:03 <Schism> Failure at every level, but with a bit of a positive vibe to it.

01:03 <Schism> It also came with an excellent song.

01:04 <Schism> Anyway, I'm just imagining if Lilith just turned the world into cake.

01:04 <Cepheid> Heh/

01:05 <Cepheid> Not that I'm complaining, but what is your fascination with cake?  Is it that video that's going around showing everyday items being cake?

01:05 * Cepheid does something horrible.

01:05 <Schism> Basically.  It's a very silly meme, and I like it.

01:07 <Cepheid> https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/daily-life-of-dia/post-introduction-syndrome/viewer?title_no=94272&episode_no=10 This is me.  I have actually done this a number of times.

01:09 <Schism> Yup!

01:11 <Schism> I wish I had the werewithal to actually say this.  https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/daily-life-of-dia/most-important-skill/viewer?title_no=94272&episode_no=70

01:12 <Cepheid> Once, I was at an interview.  I realized the employer was trying to pull the "We'll pay you in experience" card, so I started giving them bullshit.

01:12 * Schism smiles. "Please, tell us more."

01:13 <Cepheid> Mostly, white lies.  Then when they tried to offer me the position, I basically told them that nah, I'd rather not have it, as I can't pay bills with experience.

01:14 <Cepheid> https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/daily-life-of-dia/people/viewer?title_no=94272&episode_no=22

01:16 <Schism> And the worst thing is that I'm basically all three of them.  X3

01:17 <Cepheid> I'm a mix between the first two.

01:18 <Cepheid> I've already expressed why I keep my distance from people.  Mostly the noise and sensitivity of my senses.

01:18 <Schism> Also, this.  https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/daily-life-of-dia/behind-you/viewer?title_no=94272&episode_no=74

01:19 <Schism> Though the next one... yup.

01:21 <Cepheid> Heh.

01:24 <Schism> Sensible.  https://twitter.com/AdriOfTheDead/status/1282345989597040640

01:27 <Schism> Silly question.  Taoki, how do you feel about the 'whole world is cake' thing?

01:27 <Taoki> Doesn't sound bad :P

01:27 <Schism> Here I was thinking that you'd be terribly, terribly confused.  :P

01:28 <Taoki> I am that too xD

01:28 <Taoki> Heading off now though, night!

01:28 <Schism> Rest well!

01:37 <Schism> "High school will have been the best years of your life!" "..."

01:39 <Ali> Schism, as I quote Luna

01:39 <Ali> Tis a Lie

01:40 * Schism sidles up to Ali, and breathes, "Nooooo. Surely noooot."

01:41 <Ali> I hated my high school life

01:41 <Schism> Yup!

01:41 <Ali> I'm a bit more serious about that

01:41 <Ali> I had no in school freinds, parents got divorced and I was finally classified as having autism all in that four year span.

01:42 <Schism> The latter seems like it might have helped a little, but... well, this isn't a failure-waving contest.

01:42 * Schism hugs Ali. "I hated it too. Right from middle school."

01:43 <Ali> Schism, no it wasn't

01:43 <Schism> And yours was likely much worse than mine.

01:43 <Ali> I was immediately put onto a, get this, TEN year waiting list.

01:43 <Schism> what.  How would that even...

01:43 * Schism shakes her head. "Of course it wasn't intended to help."

01:43 <Cepheid> Getting ahold of psychiatric help is hard.

01:43 <Ali> So I lost ten years of help

01:44 <Schism> It was just intended to give the illusion of helping to the people in charge.

01:44 <Ali> Cause the autism waiver had a ten year line

01:44 <Cepheid> ... What in the hell is in these pills?  They're still affecting me even now.

01:44 <Ali> So by the time I finally got onto the waiver, so much time was lost among other things that.... well I just can't do anything right I feel.

01:45 <Ali> I've had four jobs, each ending after about three years time, three of them to the same reason, the 4th I had no control over.

01:45 * Schism hugs Ali. "I know. There's... a lot there. ADHD isn't just 'I can't focus'. It's also 'why can't you do anything RIGHT?' 'I told you what you need to do, why don't you just do it?' and worse.

01:46 <Ali> Pretty much..

01:46 <Schism> Idiots and negative reinforcement.  Whereas if they just let you do your things... you'd probably get a lot more done.

01:46 <Ali> Oh I did a LOT more than what was expected in some ways

01:46 <Ali> When I worked my last retail job

01:46 <Ali> It was kinda like wal mart but butter

01:46 <Schism> Exactly!  Just -- not the exact things they expected.

01:46 <Ali> better*

01:47 <Ali> The department I worked under was supposed to have up to 4 people for the entire day/afternoon shift cycle

01:47 <Schism> Like, "Wait, this shelving space is going to fall apart.  I can't stock it like this.  Can we get a replacement?'

01:47 <Ali> Most of the time, it was 2, up until the morning person retired

01:48 <Schism> Ugh, Ali, how do we have much of the same life?

01:48 <Ali> I had the pet department, automotive, and toys

01:48 <Ali> So basically

01:48 <Schism> Mine was OTC medicines and the like.

01:48 <Ali> If it was my day off, nobody took care of ANYTHING

01:48 <Ali> Fish weren't fed, or littered dead on the bottom of the tanks

01:48 <Ali> The pet food, which is refridgerated, were NOT tested to make sure the case was staying cold

01:49 <Ali> Experation dates WERE NOT checked

01:49 <Schism> Oh no, especially for pets...

01:49 <Ali> You're familiar now with Fresh Pet correct?

01:49 <Schism> I have some familiarity.

01:49 <Ali> That's what that stuff was

01:50 <Ali> But the case is supposed to be checked THREE times a day

01:50 <Ali> So when I came in, I had to check the logs to see if it was done, 95% of the time the 2nd check wasn't done, and almost 100% of the time the first one wasn't

01:50 * Schism facepalms...

01:50 <Ali> I don't mind doing two of the checks

01:51 <Ali> But of course the department heads did when it takes time to get the thermometer recalibrated, and pulling 300 dead goldfish out of the tanks cause nobody else cared.

01:51 <Ali> I mean I had six hours to do my whole department alone with zero possible help

01:51 <Ali> But to exagerate problems

01:51 <Ali> If say photo needed break coverage, guess who got slapped with it?

01:52 <Ali> Garden Center needs a break, guess who again.

01:52 <Ali> I have ZERO training in either area, and I would be SCREWD about any Garden Center questions

01:52 * Schism plants her head against the desk.

01:52 <Ali> But again, this took up to two hours out of my shift to cover these

01:53 <Ali> Cause of break 1, break 2, 30m lunch

01:53 <Ali> So that's for just one department

01:53 <Ali> Then say its an end of ad day

01:53 <Ali> So all the sale signs in the departments must come down

01:53 <Ali> Oh look nobody on night coverage for HBC, Ali has to pull the signs

01:54 <Ali> Oh nobody in Home, Ali pulls those as well

01:54 <Ali> Lets not forget about the front desk whining every thirty minutes that your returns are backing up

01:55 <Ali> There's just little to no time to do anything in the department cause they're so short staffed, or people just calling off.

01:55 <Ali> I did what I could, but it was /never/ good enough for them

01:55 <Ali> Despite them handing out these THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK cards

01:56 <Ali> I had like 50 of those stupid things

01:56 * Ali gahs and just shuts up, this isn't helping at all and just making her more and more upset unicorn.

01:57 <Schism> Ali: And I take it that you always took it upon yourself to be conscientous about your work, while everyone else would just call off for the slightest reason?

01:57 * Schism hugs the clearly-not-at-all cute unicorn.

01:57 <Ali> Pretty much..

01:58 <Schism> I know the feeling...

01:58 <Ali> But because of those drawbacks and disabilties, moving up was pretty much impossible

01:58 * Schism provides Ali with some ear-rubs. And grumbles. "Yeah."

01:58 <Ali> Hell one job I tried to take on the roll of head cashier, cause I'm so good with numbers and what not

01:59 <Schism> Randomly, this.  This right here.  https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/daily-life-of-dia/sweater/viewer?title_no=94272&episode_no=79

01:59 <Ali> But I lost that position to some new hire that hasn't been there for two months

01:59 <Ali> While I had five years of experience at that place

01:59 <Schism> ... yup.

01:59 <Ali> And needless to say

01:59 <Ali> There were about as good at being a head cashier as a stick in the mud.

02:00 <Schism> I'm kind of in that boat.  Lost the chance at a quality coach that way.  And unsurprisingly...

02:00 <Ali> But alas, doesn't matter now, I'm so heavily hours restricted by the government that its sickening.

02:00 * Schism grumblycakes alongside Ali.

02:00 <Schism> What.  What're they keeping you at?

02:00 <Ali> Last place I worked at was so good, $16 an hour at 30 hours a week

02:01 <Ali> But that was too much per week/month

02:01 <Ali> Then that started the second fuckover  in my life thanks to the incompetent US government again

02:01 <Schism> How is that too much.  You wouldn't even get benefits that way!

02:01 <Ali> Well if I remember right

02:01 <Ali> Its $1,000 a month

02:02 <Ali> Then they start shitting off your benifits

02:02 * Cepheid makes another coffee.

02:03 <Schism> I'd say that's a typo, but no, that's about right.

02:03 <Schism> In what sane world is $1k the limit?

02:04 <Ali> The US

02:04 <Ali> So anyway, that lead to the '17 disaster in my life

02:04 <Ali> Cause they decided to slap an $11k debt onto my name cause of something that they didn't tell me about.

02:05 <Schism> what.

02:05 <Ali> You can make more than 1k a month so many times before hitting a limit

02:05 <Ali> Then they're supposed to tell you that you can't hit this barrier anymore

02:05 <Ali> They didn't

02:05 <Schism> Of course not...

02:06 <Ali> And with my pay fluxuating from a min of 10 bucks all the way up to 16 a week, there's no way I could report pay based on that

02:06 <Ali> And when $16 became flat, the place folded

02:06 <Ali> So there was no reason to say HEY I'm making 16 bucks an hour now, but oh by the way, in a week I lose my job

02:06 <Schism> Should've been that in the first place, but gaaaah.

02:07 <Ali> Schism, it was bonus pay

02:07 <Ali> I was 10 flat

02:07 <Ali> but based on your performance, you could earn a ton more

02:07 * Schism deadpans. "Ah. Performance-based pay."

02:07 <Ali> I wouldn't be surprised if my average there was about 14 an hour

02:08 <Schism> Were you a contract worker in that case?

02:08 <Ali> Anyway, I'm still stuck with that 10k debt, no easy way to get rid of it

02:08 <Ali> No, it was a call center

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02:08 <Ali> Either or

02:08 <Schism> I know, but contract workers are a constant trick which a lot of employers use to deny benefits and assistance to folks in the United States.

02:08 <Ali> I'm just kinda stuck in a ho hum piss off lifestyle that can't do anything else the noose of the government comes tighter around my neck.

02:09 * Schism hugs Ali again. "If I ever find the opportunity to, I'll start targeting certain institutions with tungsten rods."

02:09 <Ali> Like I could disable my pay for almost two years, but then again, I would fold so hard before being able to get my full allowance of money back from them.

02:10 <Schism> It's an evil, evil bind.

02:10 <Ali> What's worse is that I can't save any money I do have

02:10 <Schism> You can't logically get out from there without outside assistance.

02:10 <Ali> And if I did have a large account, the government would have a say in how it gets used

02:10 <Schism> And any outside assistance might be worse than nothing.

02:10 <Ali> And that pisses me off cause its like Mommy can I buy some ice cream?  Mommy can I buy a new game?

02:11 <Schism> But Ali, if you want to buy some cigarettes or alcohol, WHY GO RIGHT AHEAD

02:11 <Ali> I'm not some *censored* child, I can make decisions on my *censored* own

02:11 <Ali> My flaws are elsewhere, not in common sense

02:12 * Ali flops over Schism and sighs, didn't really mean to go on such a long worthless tangent on her life...

02:12 * Schism hugs Ali. "We all need to rant sometimes."

02:13 <Cepheid> Hell, look at me.

02:14 <Cepheid> I regularly have rants every few weeks.

02:14 <Schism> Part of why we're here is as a sounding board.

02:14 <Schism> (Randomly: Wow, this isn't me at all.  https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/daily-life-of-dia/odd-one-out/viewer?title_no=94272&episode_no=85 )

02:16 <Schism> Ali, I promise, you're not bugging us here.  Just letting it out is healthy, and you sound like you've been keeping a lot of that pent up for a while.

02:30 * Filly_Nightmares pants heavily

02:31 * Schism provides the Filly_Nightmares with a giant block of ice in the shape of an Ali!

02:33 * Filly_Nightmares eees and clutchies Ali ice!

02:34 <Schism> It's also an adorable ice sculpture.

02:34 <Schism> With puffycheeks.

02:44 <Cepheid> I can't wait for Winter again.

02:45 <Cepheid> I don't mind the natural heat.  I dislike the heat generated from my PC being added to it.

02:48 *** Quits: Stormspark (stormspark@Pony-25m.dcd.98.172.IP) (Quit: Leaving)

02:55 <Ali> Schism, you don't understand how much pent up crap I keep to myself.

02:55 * Schism swallows her tongue.

02:56 <Schism> Ali, I ... don't have the same experiences you do, so I definitely don't.

02:56 <Schism> And I'm sorry.

02:56 <Ali> Well the lack of IRL friends, social intereactions are a major worry for me, along with other things.  I tend to just...stay quiet...

02:57 <Schism> You have no clue how much I want to hug you right now.

02:57 * Ali flops, not even sure now how she managed to run this place...

02:57 <Schism> Eh, you're doing fine.

02:57 <Ali> There's little to moderate now

02:57 <Ali> Back in S3 or so, that was different

02:58 <Schism> Eh, there's enough.  Honestly...

02:58 <Ali> USed to deal with like six channels, they've pretty much bellied up down to this single one that's left.

02:59 <Schism> I guess the next step really is 'where do we go from here?'

02:59 * Schism looks at a different community. Begins to vibrate. [o3o;;;]

03:00 * Schism then hides under the pillows.

03:00 <Ali> That's my other problem Schism, limited interests

03:00 <Ali> I really don't care about a ton of other things.

03:01 <Ali> I know I've talked a lot about 40k, but my main army, Tyranids, are by far the worst army in the game for the last 10-15 years

03:01 <Ali> And its an expensive ass hobby as well

03:02 <Schism> Well, find something you sorta-care about?  And also, what's wrong with that?  Learn tactics and curbstomp your opposition!  ...is what I wish would happen.

03:02 <Ali> Well 40k is going thru an edition change

03:02 <Schism> Ah.  So everything you have...

03:02 <Ali> And we won't know the full effect of the rules until the 25th

03:02 * Schism grumps into a slime.

03:03 <Ali> Schism, I have A LOT of tyranids

03:03 * Schism burbles, "Look forward to that?"

03:03 <Ali> Well depends

03:03 <Schism> Hopefully...

03:03 <Ali> 9th brings along a slew of interesting things

03:03 <Ali> But its all down to the rules changes and points costs of Tyranids

03:03 <Schism> Is IG just going to keep being the shining children of the series?

03:03 <Ali> There are some major rules that got altered and takes some of the Nid abilities down a bit

03:04 <Ali> Like Deathleaper has a -2 to get shot at

03:04 <Ali> But the new rules in 9th only allow a maximum penalty to shooting as -1

03:04 <Schism> Standard agilit--

03:04 * Schism frowns. :<

03:04 <Ali> So take a heavy weapon that moves and decides to shoot at Deathleaper

03:04 <Ali> In 8th, that would be a -3 to hit penalty

03:04 <Schism> Freaking cannonball moving at them, kind of obvious to dodge.

03:05 <Ali> In 9th, that same thing is now -1

03:05 <Schism> Hopefully there will be some agility adjustments on attack in turn.

03:05 <Ali> Pft, its GW

03:05 <Ali> Anyway an example

03:05 <Schism> I know.

03:05 <Ali> A Marine hits normally on a 3+

03:05 <Ali> If they did that in 8th, it would be a 6+ to hit

03:06 <Ali> But in 9th, its only a 4+ to hit

03:06 <Schism> And I take it that 'nids aren't getting a bit more health in compense.

03:06 <Ali> Hah, I honestly doubt that Schism

03:06 <Ali> Nids have been GW's red headed step child for years

03:07 <Ali> so much so that 2/3 recent codexes were written by someone who HATED the faction

03:07 <Ali> Were we got such gems of rules as to Carnifexes attacking each other due to a instinctive behavior falilure

03:08 * Schism faceplants into the desk.

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03:08 <Ali> If you don't know Schism, A Carnifex is a Mosterous Creature in the Nid army

03:09 <Ali> So take this as watching your two tanks and they start to shoot each other instead of the oppenent

03:09 <Ali> Also

03:09 <Ali> They're so busy fighting each other, they can't do anything else for the rest of the turn

03:09 <Ali> These checks were taken of course at the start of the turn

03:09 <Schism> I know that much at least about WH40K... that's like telling the 'nid players that they might be playing 2e Orcs.

03:09 <Schism> Orks*

03:09 <Ali> 2nd Edition Nids were NASTY

03:10 <Ali> 3rd edition wasn't too bad, but they had the worst rule in the game

03:10 <Ali> Shoot the Big Ones

03:10 <Ali> Basicaly ment that No tryanid EVER counted as blocking Line of Sight to another Tyranid

03:10 <Schism> Oh, I played the PC Space Hulk.  That one was horrifying and yet I wasn't entirely against the Genestealers for some strange reason.

03:10 <Ali> Ah the Genestealers

03:11 <Ali> How they suffered the longest

03:11 <Schism> I think that one used 2e rules.

03:11 <Ali> They were super good in 2nd

03:11 <Ali> but from 3-8th they were shelf bait

03:11 <Schism> Efgh.

03:11 <Schism> That's a shame.  I liked the idea.

03:11 <Ali> Well here's the problem with them

03:12 <Schism> Of course, in the PC Space Hulk game, you could only play Blood Angels.

03:12 <Ali> In points, they cost 16 each

03:12 <Ali> Gaunts back then were 7/10

03:12 <Ali> So you could get WAY more bodies in gaunts than Stealers, and everything Nid was slow as balls in 3rd

03:12 <Ali> Basic 6" movement

03:13 <Ali> Then a random d6 for fleet rules

03:13 <Ali> And if they weren't within 6" of you, they couldn't charge

03:13 <Ali> Also as you know by now, Nids have terrible armor saves

03:14 <Ali> Their crappy little 5+ save was ignored by the basic Space Marine gun

03:14 <Ali> So they fell to a stiff breeze, and this ment you had to get them across a 24" no man zone before running into the enemy

03:14 * Schism groans. "Stupid aim bonus."

03:14 <Ali> This is why I spammed Hormagaunts back then

03:15 <Ali> They moved six, fleeted D6, and assualted 12 inches instead of the six of everyone else

03:15 <Ali> But basically, Genestealers were never priced right and had the movement value to make it to the enemy gun line before getting shot off the board

03:15 <Schism> Sounds like the Zerg Rush is the only way they could do anything, and in a protracted game you're completely ded.

03:16 <Ali> That was the Nid strat back in 3rd

03:16 <Ali> There were very few games where I didn't outnumber the oppenent by at least 4:1

03:16 <Ali> You played war of attrition, you can shoot my bugs down easily, but you can't kill them all before the horde slams into you.

03:16 <Schism> Which is fine, and that would be a perfectly reasonable stratagem if not for perfect knowledge.

03:17 <Ali> Well the thing is

03:17 <Ali> You didn't HAVE the firepower to deal with all those models

03:17 <Ali> Your 40 dudes are dealing with 200 gaunts

03:17 <Schism> So you had to be careful, and use tactics.

03:17 <Ali> Or had to choose your fights

03:17 <Ali> Cause if you're scared of the gaunts

03:18 <Ali> Than that Fex or Zoanthrope is just gonna free blast your tanks to death

03:18 <Schism> A standard pincer, that.

03:19 <Schism> Let the vast waves of troops just draw the enemy forward, and then...

03:19 <Ali> Well this was before the fex's strength got nerfed and the Zoanthrope got neutered from tank killer to mortal wound spammer

03:19 <Ali> It used to be

03:19 <Ali> That if a fex ever touched your tank

03:19 <Ali> That tank was screwed

03:19 <Schism> No more tank.  :3

03:19 <Ali> Yes, it worked like this

03:19 <Ali> Most tanks had like an Armor value of 12

03:19 <Ali> A carnifex had a Strength of 10

03:20 <Schism> Two rounds, no more tank.

03:20 <Ali> Also cause he was a Monsterous Creature, all his AP attacks on tanks gained S+2D6 AP

03:20 <Ali> So this ment that as long as the fex rolled a 3 or greater, it was a penetrating hit

03:20 <Schism> One round, then.

03:21 <Ali> No, you have to understand this

03:21 <Ali> Fexes had like 5 or so attacks

03:21 <Ali> Tanks had no weapon skill to roll against, so most of the time these were auto hits

03:21 <Ali> So you're rolling 5 attacks that almost always penetrate the armor

03:21 <Schism> Ooh.  Any specialization for throwing parts of tanks into nearby hexes?

03:22 <Ali> There was a damage table sadly, and only 33% of the time the tank died on the spot

03:22 <Ali> I wish

03:22 <Ali> But anyway, this ment tanks would just be screwed if a fex touched them

03:22 <Schism> Wouldn't that have been fun.  "Sorry, your tank is now sharpnel."

03:22 <Schism> But yea.

03:22 <Ali> Well this ability was on the Hive Tyrant as well, but he was only Strength 6

03:23 <Ali> But it gave him the abilitity to take out tanks, and he could have wings

03:23 <Schism> Slightly less destructive.  Slightly.

03:23 <Ali> But we come to now, where the rules have changed a lot

03:23 <Ali> Tanks now have basic statlines like everyone else, along with a wound pool

03:24 <Ali> But the problem is, they're T8 Wound of around 8 or more, and a 3+ save

03:24 <Schism> A what save?  They're tanks.  They don't suddenly jump 2 feet to the left to avoid a blow.

03:24 <Ali> And the lowly fex got a power nerf, no longer was he a base Str of 9 or 10, but nerfed to a laughable SIX

03:24 <Ali> It was a way for them to stop getting tanks from being one shotted off the table by a lucky hit

03:25 <Ali> So anyway, now the Fex has a max of four attacks, which is WAY too low for a melee monster in this day and age

03:25 <Ali> I mean hell, a freaking 14 point marine gets more attacks than a freaking carnifex does...

03:26 <Ali> Either way, the fex is now only S6 instead of 10

03:26 <Ali> So he only 'wounds' the tank on 5's

03:27 * Schism just shakes her head. "GW, what."

03:27 <Ali> And the tank has a chance to make a very hard save of 6+ or take 3 damage

03:27 <Ali> Oh it gets better Schism

03:27 <Ali> To give back the Fex his melee crushing power

03:27 <Ali> They have Mosterous Crushing Claws

03:27 <Ali> Which double the fex's strength

03:28 <Ali> So now he's S12

03:28 <Schism> That's...

03:28 <Ali> But its tyranid, there has to be a drawback right~

03:28 <Schism> Already I can see the problems with this.  Please, what's the counter.

03:28 <Ali> Well there is, the weapon has an innate -1 to hit

03:28 <Schism> ...

03:28 <Ali> So you have this big melee monster

03:28 * Schism squints.

03:29 <Schism> Who can't hit the broad side of a Sweet Apple Acres barn.

03:29 <Ali> That is basically going into a melee FLAILING WILDLY hoping to hit its target

03:29 <Ali> Schism, consider that GW loves to give any melee monster a Weapon Skill of 4+...

03:29 <Ali> So this means the fex hits ONLY on 5s or 6s

03:29 <Schism> Against a TANK.

03:30 <Ali> Against ANYTHING Schism

03:30 <Ali> As long as you fight with the claws

03:30 <Schism> Yes, I know, but most especially against a tank.

03:31 <Ali> Oh and get this

03:31 <Ali> There is no benifit to the AP or damage for using the claws

03:31 <Ali> Its AP-3 and a flat 3 damage if they fail the save

03:31 <Ali> So basically you're just flip flopping your rolls

03:31 <Ali> Do you take the 4+ to hit and 5+ to wound?

03:32 <Ali> Or take the 5+ to hit for a 3+ to wound

03:32 <Schism> Ali, while I'm sure that these sorts of games are a lot of fun, thank you for making sure that I never ever play it myself.  (Even if GW weren't horrible in the first place.)

03:32 <Ali> Well again

03:32 <Ali> This is Tyranids

03:32 <Schism> Yeah, but who doesn't want to play the movie monsters?

03:32 <Ali> Space Marines on the other hand have so much broken bullcrap unfair rules its not funny

03:32 <Ali> I know

03:33 <Ali> But balance?  Nah our blueberries need to shine

03:33 <Schism> I'd honestly prefer to play the Alien instead of the Space Marines.  (and let the cat go.)

03:33 <Ali> Also Schism, not sure if the Chapter APproved 19 changed it

03:33 <Schism> I guess we'll have to see...

03:33 <Ali> But to use Monster claws

03:33 <Ali> was a 19 point penalty

03:33 <Schism> Ali: randomly, https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/daily-life-of-dia/weekends/viewer?title_no=94272&episode_no=96

03:34 <Ali> Cause going double talon is only 15 points

03:34 <Ali> But a single pair is 14

03:34 <Schism> ... 'only' 14.

03:34 <Ali> While the claws are 20

03:35 <Ali> Well the fex body is cheap at a base 67, and just sticking to the talons brought them back down to the lowest points cost they've ever been since 3rd

03:35 <Ali> which was around 100 points a model

03:35 <Schism> Is it worth it, though?

03:35 <Ali> For what's technically a dreadnaught equivalant

03:35 <Ali> Not really

03:36 <Ali> This is why the Dakkafex came around

03:36 * Cepheid finally gets old laptop set up the way he wants.

03:36 * Schism huzzahs, and then puts Spitfire on Cephy's laptop.

03:36 <Ali> 24 shots a turn from a single model

03:36 <Ali> Thus the name dakkafex

03:36 <Schism> I can see why.

03:37 <Ali> For 95 points, but you'd add more protection stuff onto it and what not

03:37 <Ali> You'd have a 24 shot platform that could be spammed

03:37 <Schism> If it's a flagship character, I should think so.

03:37 <Ali> Well in 7th, it was one of only two models that Nids ever ran

03:38 <Ali> Beside the Flyrant loaded out in the same manner

03:38 <Ali> Where the fex was a slow walking dakka machine

03:39 <Ali> The Flyant could fly around the battlefield and dakka things with impunity

03:39 <Schism> Ah, a proverbial Ogre.

03:39 <Ali> But in early 8th, they triple nerfed tyranids out of existance

03:40 <Ali> The rule of three, points increase to the flyrant, and some other rule I don't remember off the top my head

03:40 * Schism nods, and flops. "Fuu."

03:41 <Ali> The Rule of Three means that unless a choice is from the troops selection, there can only ever be a max of three taken of the same unit

03:41 <Ali> So this ment that instead of dealing with say 5 flyrants

03:41 <Ali> You only had to worry about a max of three

03:41 <Ali> But the cost of the winged tyrant went up 20 points

03:42 <Schism> So, less zerg.

03:42 * Schism grumbles. "That is... "

03:42 <Ali> Well less Flyrants that is

03:42 <Ali> But once the power creap started to take over, Nids were in a bad spot

03:43 <Schism> Cepheid, have a void.  https://twitter.com/catoutofcontxt/status/1282294137417588737

03:43 * Schism nodnods to Ali.

03:43 <Ali> Thier Monsters were just lacking attacks to deal with threats, along with all the other armies plethora of aura and abillites that came for free that Nids had to use CP for

03:43 <Ali> Like I said, a BASIC Space Marine with all their rules buffs

03:43 <Cepheid> Heh.

03:43 <Ali> Gets more attacks per model than 90% of the Tyranid codex

03:43 <Schism> Yeah.  And all the auras.

03:44 <Ali> ANd the auras...

03:44 <Ali> SM get auras like reroll 1's or reroll everything

03:44 <Ali> Nids

03:44 <Ali> add 1 to hit for Carnifexes

03:44 <Ali> add 1 to hit for Warriors

03:44 <Ali> Add 1 to hit for Genestealers

03:44 <Ali> These aura's were VERY specific

03:44 * Schism adds 1 to hit for headshakes. Bumps head against Ali.

03:45 <Schism> Sorry, Ali.  I think I need to get some sleep, soon, but... yea.

03:45 <Ali> And other abilities required the brood to be of X size..

03:45 <Ali> Sorry I am heavy rambling...

03:45 <Schism> ... X size.  After all those CP additions?

03:45 <Ali> Nah

03:45 <Ali> Most of them are if squad is 20 or more, reroll 1's

03:45 <Ali> Or for genestealers

03:46 <Ali> if 10 or more, +1 attack for all models

03:46 <Schism> That's not the worst, but...

03:46 <Ali> Good luck staying 10+ strong with a 5+/5+ invul

03:46 <Schism> Yeah.  ._.

03:46 <Schism> Hi, Ali, Cepheid!  This is my life.  https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/daily-life-of-dia/sneak-attack/viewer?title_no=94272&episode_no=102

03:47 <Cepheid> Dude, I've been dealing with that for the last decade.

03:47 <Schism> Same.  Hi!  Things are going grraaaaaaaahghh.xvbi chvbli.

03:47 <Ali> Schism, the Swarmlord, the big bad bug Tyrant

03:47 <Ali> Has SIX attacks for melee

03:48 <Ali> And costs 250 points

03:48 * Cepheid wanders off and looks to see what there is to eat.

03:48 <Ali> Used to be 300

03:48 <Ali> And consider Guiliman is 350, a LoW, and can screw over Swarmie a million times over...

03:49 <Schism> Yup... @_@;

03:49 <Ali> Also swarmie has no aura

03:49 <Schism> Urgh.  Sorry.  I need sleepz.  Ali, no question, GW hates 'nids.

03:49 <Ali> They do...so very much...

03:49 * Ali huggles the Schism hard.

03:49 * Schism hugs the Ali back. And gruhglhs.

03:51 <Schism> One last comic before sleep.  Also, how is this entire comic my life?  https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/daily-life-of-dia/nap/viewer?title_no=94272&episode_no=107

03:52 *** Joins: Angeline (Scootaloo@I.Will.Fly.Higher)

03:54 <Cepheid> Heh.

04:03 <Schism> Brain, let me sleep.

04:04 <Ali> Found the bomb bag Schism

04:04 * Schism looks at the trans Pride shoes on the .ca website. Sees that they are no longer available in her size. Sighs.

04:04 <Ali> Was on top of the fortress

04:04 <Schism> Oh.  Well... 'least you have bombs now!

04:10 * Schism clears her throat, and blinks.

04:11 <Schism> Brain won't let me sleep, but small things are encouraging.

04:18 *** Quits: PinkieShy (coolm@Pony-ck81je.67-212-45-net.sccoast.net) (Quit: Hopefully I sleep tonight.. If 3 days no sleep for me turns to be a thing.. IDK if i'll come on PC tomorrow..)

04:26 * Schism frowns. "Having long hair means learning how to take care of long hair." She looks at her dirty blonde-brown bangs. "..."

04:26 <Schism> (Not dirty in the general sense.  Just a dark blonde.)

04:28 *** Joins: Golden (uid250033@Pony-sd90bk.tooting.irccloud.com)

04:35 <Ali> Schism, go to bread

04:35 * Schism offers Ali a loaf of sourdough with spinach dip.

04:35 <Schism> Sorry, I'm already in bread.

04:35 * Ali boops Schism with the Song of Time and Dodongo's lava encrusted skull.

04:36 * Schism serves the soup of time in said skull.

04:40 <Schism> Hm.  I guess that in the past I've had a 'breathy' voice.  One way or the other...which is helpful when it comes to a lower register but which might cause concerns with a higher one.

04:42 <Schism> Suggestion reads an even, monotone voice for a higher register, which I can do, but...

04:44 <Schism> Oh well.  Practice, practice.

04:47 <Ali> Well Dampe was double trash

04:47 <Schism> One arrow, one rupee.  o3o

04:49 * Schism rolls over to Ali, and provides one whiskey, one goat, and one beer.

04:49 <Ali> Five Rupees and a bundle of arrows Schism

04:49 <Schism> Never run into that before in any of my LTTP runs.  o3o;

04:50 <Schism> Once I figure out this voice thing, Ali, I might run an LTTP randomizer so that you can see what goes into it.

04:52 <Schism> My last keysanity was actually pretty decent as such things go.  8 hoursish.

04:53 <Ali> I'm doing Keysanity but for some reason the game add in that tells you the keys you have and to where is missing

04:54 <Schism> Blind's basement.  2 arrows, a couple of bombs, some rupees, and a progressive sword.

04:54 <Ali> At least you HAVE a sword

04:54 * Ali is still swordless as a child

04:55 <Schism> Ali: Keysanity in LTTP tells you how many you have in each dungeon.  :<  This is helpful!  But not... THAT helpful.

04:55 <Ali> In the dungeon it works

04:55 <Ali> This tool kept track of them outside of dungeons

04:56 <Schism> This mod also tells you if you have the compass and map, and if you have the compass, you get an indication of how many chests are in said dungeon.

04:56 <Schism> Well, how many major items are left.

04:56 <Ali> Compasses show you how many are in the dungeon, but not how many

04:57 <Schism> No indication of how many in total, yea.

04:58 <Schism> Ali: https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/daily-life-of-dia/self-deprecation/viewer?title_no=94272&episode_no=147

05:13 <Ali> Ah there's the info I've been waiting for, had to hold A to bring it up.

05:14 <Ali> Got a lot of keys to several teimples, but can't get far into many of them

05:17 <Schism> Welcome to keysanity.

05:22 <Schism> Me: "If my brain isn't going to let me sleep, I'm going to start flexing with my throat."

05:22 * Cepheid flops about, himself. Warm.

05:22 * Cepheid stupidly puts headphones on. o3o

05:22 <Schism> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69zi-1ct8_g

05:22 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Rabi-Ribi OST - RFN - I I I [Extended]

05:24 <Cepheid> Heh.  Video game music is what I'm listening to.  In particular, remixes.  One I'm looking for, though, is nearly impossible to find on Youtube.

05:24 <Schism> Do tell.

05:24 <Cepheid> The arranged version of Star Ocean's "Through the Mills"

05:24 <Schism> I'm up anyways...

05:24 <Cepheid> Alternatively, the arranged version of Star Ocean 2's Integral Body and Imperfect Soul.

05:24 <Schism> https://youtu.be/26_5Pfr8It4?t=1157

05:25 <Cepheid> Aware of that one, yeah.

05:25 <Schism> 'kay.  :P  Sorry, just went for the obvious solution.

05:25 <Cepheid> I wish Square-Enix would do proper remakes of those two games.

05:27 <Schism> No kidding.  :<

05:27 <Schism> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUfnkfq6ZXw

05:27 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

05:27 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Underworld Theme (Terranigma) Metal\/Rock Remix

05:31 <Schism> By the way.  Cepheid, do you feel more... positive, I wouldn't say happier, now?

05:32 <Cepheid> Yes.

05:32 <Schism> Then I think this is a net benefit.

05:32 * Schism hugs the Cephy.

05:33 <Schism> It's the damnedest thing.  Just knowing helps.  A lot.

05:33 <Cepheid> Indeed.

05:35 <Schism> Enix should definitely see about re-releasing Soulblazer, Illusion of Gaia, and Terranigma.

05:38 * Schism snickers, "Though they'd have a bit of a hard time releasing some, these days."

05:39 <Cepheid> See also:  Ports of Valkyrie Profile 1 & 2 to PC or modern consoles.

05:42 <Cepheid> ... Geezus christ, dog, what is your problem?  You always look so sad, depressed or stressed.

05:43 <Cepheid> I move even the slightest bit, she looks at me, terrified.

05:46 <Schism> That dog is...

05:47 <Cepheid> Paranoid as hell.

05:59 * Cepheid removes extra pills from pill case. He can't take this ****.

06:02 <Cepheid> I thought the grogginess from the seroquel and melatonin was bad.  This stuff just keeps running over me.

06:02 <Cepheid> If I take a nap, I wake up, and about an hour later, I want to take another nap.  And getting up is HARD too.  It feels like something is weighing me down.

06:03 <Schism> More than a black cat on your chest, that is.  But... yeah.

06:03 <Schism> If that's keeping you from getting up, give it a miss for a while.

06:04 <Cepheid> As it is, regardless of the risk of liver problems, aleve seems to be the best choice for dealing with the sinus stuff.

06:04 <Cepheid> The exercise, I'm hoping that deals with the breathing stuff.

06:04 <Schism> I think it might.  Odd as it might seem...

06:05 <Cepheid> No, it actually will.

06:05 * Schism nodnods.

06:06 <Cepheid> Though, technically for that, I should be doing cardio.  Walking, jogging, biking, etc.

06:07 <Cepheid> Not enough space to do any of those right now though, and going outside is a death sentence in this heat.

06:08 <Cepheid> Interestingly enough, my breathing today is much better, and I haven't even taken my asthma meds yet.

06:08 <Schism> Sounds like cardio is a good idea all in all.

06:10 <Cepheid> In theory, any exercise should suffice, the sole reason being that as I improve, I need to start pulling in more oxygen for the muscles to keep going.

06:11 * Ali puffycheeks at Schism and tucks the ling into bed

06:15 * Schism whiiines. "I want to stay up for a little longer."

06:16 <Cepheid> Will you be able to do your job tomorrow if you don't get any sleep?

06:17 <Schism> I'm working in 12 hours.  I have at least a little time.  (Though I was hoping to get some laundry done in the morning.)

06:20 <Cepheid> I have a personal conflict of interest.

06:21 <Cepheid> For my game, I want to add a giant robot spider as a boss.

06:21 <Cepheid> But my mother hates spiders.

06:24 <Schism> Ask if she'd be upset at seeing one killed via mass firepower.  :P

06:24 <Cepheid> Heh.

06:27 <Schism> Sleeptime for Creh.  BLeh...

06:27 <Cepheid> Sleep well.

06:27 <Schism> Thank you.  Hopefully this time it'll stick.

06:27 * Cepheid makes a bed on the couch to get comfy and read. Can't do anything damnit, due to exhaustion.

06:27 *** Quits: ThatAnonPony (Pony25418@Pony-i454b4.cable.virginm.net) (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)

06:32 * PrincessRainbows boops Ali with her snoot and makes grabby hooves

06:33 * Ali scoops up PrincessRainbows and snuggles the little filly

06:34 * PrincessRainbows hugs Ali

06:37 * PrincessRainbows also licks a lot before playing with her plushies

06:41 <Schism> Lastly, yes.  This is my approach to life.  https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/daily-life-of-dia/solution/viewer?title_no=94272&episode_no=155

06:41 * Schism now flops to bed.

06:42 <Cepheid> I prefer to fight it out, myself.

06:43 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPqJj6rna2E

06:43 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

06:43 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Smash Wall Collab 2020 (hosted by ZackAttack27)

06:44 * Schism grumbles, too. "Going to probably use that fantasia I've been saving for malachite eyes."

06:44 <Cepheid> Something to distract you for an hour. :P

06:44 <Schism> Later, though.

06:45 <Schism> I may remain up for 15 more minutes.

06:45 * Ali puffycheeks hard at Schism

06:46 * Schism grumblycakes at Ali! "I'm tired. But that tiredness seems to result in me being up and down."

06:47 <Ali> I could put you to sleep with more 40k ramblings :P

06:47 <Schism> I thought I'd be asleep hours ago, don't @ me mare!

06:47 * Schism gnaws on Ali's genestealers.

06:47 <Ali> But they're useless

06:47 <Ali> Again

06:47 <Ali> Maybe

06:47 <Schism> They're still something you've put a lot of time into.  So don't make me gnaw on them.

06:48 * Schism polishes her fangs.

06:48 <Ali> Technically

06:48 <Ali> I think I have more Tyranid Warriors than Genestealers

06:48 <Ali> Which is sad, cause Warriors are a box of 3 compaired to the 8 genestealers

06:49 <Ali> Though a lot of me Genestealers are also from 3rd edition, so there might be more.

06:49 <Ali> Schism, to let you know how bad my horde mentality is

06:49 <Ali> You know at least the Termagaunt and Hormagaunt right?

06:49 * Schism peers at Ali's box of a million Gaunts. "Yes?"

06:50 <Ali> Probably, I think I have 6 full squads of each type

06:50 <Ali> Which they max out at 30 now, but back in 3rd, their squad size was capped at 32

06:50 <Schism> Yee.

06:50 <Ali> To think

06:50 * Schism just paints them all in pink nail polish.

06:50 <Ali> A 10 point hormagaunt was better than a 5 point one

06:50 <Schism> Waaaaay back when.

06:51 <Schism> New avatar is new.  https://i.imgur.com/HXksmdD.png

06:52 <Schism> Also long neck is long.

06:52 <Ali> And an MMO be MMoing

06:52 <Ali> I'm too anti social for those anymore

06:53 <Schism> Yes.  But with red eyes rather than green... well, she's still not quite close enough, but the hair helps.

06:54 <Ali> Ok, this is lame

06:55 <Ali> A tactical marine is 12 points

06:55 <Schism> Mendscblh.  I'm almost off to sleep!

06:55 <Schism> And... oh?

06:55 <Ali> Same points cost as a freaking Genestealer

06:55 * Cepheid hums. His character has at least two manifestations. One that is easy to render, in a sense. The other's a bit more complex.

06:55 <Schism> With more powers, I take it.

06:55 <Ali> Of course

06:55 <Schism> And a lower hit, and a higher damage.

06:57 <Ali> Pretty much, but nobody takes tact boys anymore, Primaris is the way to go.

06:58 <Ali> The hell, they gave space marines a Leman russ equivalant tank...

07:00 * PrincessRainbows looks up at Ali and makes upset filly noises

07:01 <Cepheid> I really should look into doing kendo training after this pandemic ends.  Kinda need to train in a weapon if I ever want to commit deicide.

07:03 <Schism> Cepheid: Ahahahahahaah https://reallifecomics.com/index.php

07:04 * Schism just breaks down laughing, because if she didn't... well.

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07:04 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ConfusionRift

07:04 <Schism> Okay, that's what I was staying up for.  Hiya, 'Rifty.  Sleeptime now.

07:05 <Cepheid> Heh.

07:05 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony. And laters, Schism.

07:06 <Cepheid> Hey Rifty.

07:06 * ConfusionRift pets PrincessRainbows, then snugs both her and Ali.

07:06 * Ali leans into snugs

07:08 *** Quits: Golden (uid250033@Pony-sd90bk.tooting.irccloud.com) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)

07:08 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPqJj6rna2E ConfusionRift, if you ever feel like watching an hour of awesome music and flashy sprite animations.

07:08 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Smash Wall Collab 2020 (hosted by ZackAttack27)

07:12 * PrincessRainbows boops Ali and ConfusionRift with her plushies

07:15 <ConfusionRift> Huh. Reminds me of the old sprite battles.

07:15 * PrincessRainbows finds a bag of sugar cubes and noms

07:15 * ConfusionRift patpats PrincessRainbows.

07:17 <Cepheid> Hyun's Dojo is basically a bunch of folks who do videos of all sorts like that, ranging from sprite animations to stick figures.

07:17 <Cepheid> It's an interesting community.

07:18 <Cepheid> Since they basically share techniques on how to make flashy stuff.  You want to learn how to do that stuff?  They're probably your best bet.  Thinking I might try my hand at some of their tutorials for my own purposes.

07:21 <Schism> BRAIN, LET ME SLEEP.  Please.  I have work.  :<  Please let me slumber.

07:27 <Ali> What you're going thru Schism rememinds me of that brain meme

07:27 <Cepheid> Some of these artists names, though.  Who calls themselves "Trashbag" on purpose?

07:28 <Ali> Where the brain is like Hey are you going to sleep?"  Person is like yes now shut up.  Then the brain will mention the meme part, like in pokemon the line is so then you remembered to save?  And the last panel is the person wide eyed

07:29 <ConfusionRift> Hehehe.

07:30 * PrincessRainbows offers ConfusionRift a super cube for being a good horsey

07:30 <ConfusionRift> Cepheid: There's a minecrafter and artist by the name of BinOfTrash.

07:30 <ConfusionRift> Well, gamer, mostly.

07:30 <Schism> Ali: Oh, like "Hey, you remember that thing you did 30 years ago where you embarassed yourself terribly?" "O.O"

07:30 <Cepheid> Heh.

07:31 * ConfusionRift noms the cube, and offers PrincessRainbows some ice cream.

07:31 <ConfusionRift> Got some.

07:31 * PrincessRainbows makes happy little filly noises and lickie licks

07:32 <Schism> Myself, reading Ranma 1/2 back in the day.  "Wait.  Why would I NOT then keep ice water available at all times?"  Everyone else: "Why would you do that, just carry a hot water heater around, you're strong enough."

07:32 <Schism> "Or a thermos."

07:36 <ConfusionRift> A lot of Maple Story, that's for sure.

07:37 <Schism> So there's a lot of Maple Story/Ranma 1/2 RPers then.

07:39 <Cepheid> Probably because there seems to be a wide variety of Maple Story sprites, with various expressions.

07:41 * Schism tries to tell Mae to stop having been her. For some reason, it's not likely to have much effect.

07:42 <ConfusionRift> Okay, someone's a fan of the SMBZ series. :P

07:43 <Schism> Oh?

07:44 <Schism> ConfusionRift, also, TIL that my eyes are a different colour than I thought they were.  That was interesting.

07:44 * PrincessRainbows hugs ConfusionRift. Uppy?

07:45 * Schism takes a few moments to get a quick shower. She needs one, and maybe it'll help her relax.

07:45 * ConfusionRift grabbies PrincessRainbows, then pets.

07:45 * PrincessRainbows yays

07:46 <Cepheid> Heh.  I wondered if there was gonna be a Persona 5 scene.

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07:54 <ConfusionRift> Of course, a Sonic Movie intro parody. :P

07:56 * PrincessRainbows curls up in ConfusionRift's hooves with her pacifier. Nini

08:03 * Ali headtilts

08:04 <Finwe> Good forenoon, everypony.

08:04 <Finwe> Mlles Ali, PrincessRainbows, Filly_Nightmares and, apparently, Schism; Messrs Cepheid, Lumindia, Starlight_Glimmer and ArchPegasusMichael.

08:04 * Finwe doffs his hat.

08:05 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift, Capt Koopz.

08:05 <Finwe> o7

08:05 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)

08:09 * Finwe noms on Ali's tail.

08:09 <Finwe> Lunchtiem? :3

08:09 * Ali squeaksies

08:09 <Koopz> RAdm. Finwe o7

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08:11 * PrincessRainbows licks Finwe. Taste like horsey

08:12 <Schism> rAdm. Finwe.

08:12 * Schism doffs her sausage roll.

08:12 * Ali uses magic to put Schism to sleep

08:13 <Ali> Go to bread changling

08:13 <Schism> Just had shower.  Sleep comes momentarily.

08:13 <Schism> Possibly after shave.  Because nrsdfgvbhl.

08:13 * PrincessRainbows boops Ali's horn for some too

08:15 * Schism also throws a Crimson Robe over Koopz.

08:16 <Schism> Ahem, 'Crimson Vest'.

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08:18 <Schism> Shave can wait until alertness, I suppose.

08:18 <ConfusionRift> Aaah, there's Persona.

08:19 <Koopz> o3o

08:19 <Koopz> i hath slain Shiva

08:19 <Koopz> after 15 weeks of progress

08:20 <Schism> Huzzah!

08:20 * Schism has yet to do Eden series 2.

08:20 <Koopz> you're pretty late

08:20 * Schism should. Tomorrow. Or sometime like that. She is le tired and REALLY NEEDS TO SLEEP SOON.

08:20 <Schism> I know.

08:21 <Koopz> you didn't even do normal mode?

08:21 <Schism> I'm right on top tier with crafting but have yet to get any decent toptier combat gear.  No, not even that.

08:21 <Koopz> wow

08:21 <Koopz> ruby weapon?

08:21 <Schism> And I know, it's stupid.  But work and other such things have thrown me for a loop over the past couple months.

08:21 <Schism> No, not even that.

08:21 <Schism> Look, I've been busy with personal revelations, you jerk.

08:21 <Schism> And work.

08:22 <Schism> Mostly work.

08:22 <Koopz> work sure is a pain in the butt

08:22 <Schism> Stupid Bertelsmann.

08:22 * Schism grumblycakes.

08:22 <Schism> Not that they haven't been great, but jeez.

08:23 <Koopz> what did the clonglomerate do to you? owo

08:23 <Schism> Well, they hired me.  :P

08:24 <Koopz> how dare they!?

08:24 <Schism> I know!

08:24 <Schism> Stupid social contract!

08:24 <Koopz> (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

08:24 <ConfusionRift> Mah table!

08:25 <Schism> Cat-Paladin has new outfit.  Newish.  And hair.  https://i.imgur.com/2K4lww2.png

08:25 <Schism> /notavillain

08:26 <Schism> Need to dye those falconer pants black, tho.  Or something.

08:26 <ConfusionRift> "Not a villain." | Hmmmm... suuuuureeeee. :P

08:27 <Koopz> :blobxdoubt:

08:27 <Schism> Also, Koopz, you played around with GShade at all?  Because with the right resaturation effects, Mist looks amazing.  https://i.imgur.com/xyCe4d8.png

08:28 <Koopz> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/480701112446615553/705115731603488849/unknown.png

08:28 <Schism> I see you have then.  o3o

08:28 <Koopz> i don't even know what GShade is

08:28 <Koopz> xD

08:28 <Schism> Oh, it's a postshader.

08:29 <Schism> Does things like resaturate FFXIV so that you actually have colour.

08:29 <Cepheid> Man, those Wall videos make me want to work on the design of my OC.

08:29 <ConfusionRift> Koopz: "Gonna starts some fires... I mean,s ave the woild."

08:30 <Koopz> "I'm only in it for the booty. It's not like i want to save the world or something, b-baka!"

08:30 <Schism> Cepheid, weren't you sleeping two hours ago-- *is hit with the karmic retribution hammer*

08:30 <Cepheid> I was, I woke up.

08:30 <Schism> Dammit.

08:31 <Cepheid> I couldn't sleep any longer, that's why I got back up earlier.

08:31 <Schism> I know I'm going to wind up doing the same.  I'm just waiting for my hair to dry so that I can muss it completely up when I try desperately to sleep.

08:31 <ConfusionRift> The video was really good. My only thing was that there was a lot of Maple Story OCs, followed by Kirby ones. Aside from that, really good animations for sure. Does hit that Newgrounds nostalgia.

08:31 <Cepheid> Heh.

08:31 <Koopz> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/480701112446615553/721317323386126366/unknown.png also have my totally-not-evil ninja outfit which doesn't even remotely look like a ninja

08:31 <Cepheid> There's one from 2018 as well.

08:31 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy4278B9kQg

08:31 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

08:31 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Smash Wall Collab 2018 (hosted by ZackAttack27)

08:32 <Schism> Koopz, you're missing a trick there.

08:32 <Schism> You should be wearing the entirety of the Shisui outfit.

08:32 <Schism> How else to show off the entirety of the Evil Lala?

08:32 <ConfusionRift> That friggin' hair. :P

08:33 <Schism> Oh yeah, that pompadour style is actually unisex, so I could wear it on my catgirl.  Not that I ever WOULD, but could.

08:33 <Schism> HOWEVER, that is as naught compared to a Lala wearing the full Amon's Set.

08:33 <Koopz> i have the pompadour since the creation of my character

08:33 <Cepheid> The biggest issue with my OC right now is determining her power output.  Cepheid doesn't use magic.  Or rather, she doesn't want to.

08:33 <Koopz> and hell needs to freeze over before i'm gonna switch it

08:33 <Schism> Internal magic is still magic.  o3o

08:34 <Schism> Intrinsic magic = Earth Pony.  Polytrinsic magic = Pegasus.  Extrinsic magic = Unicorn.

08:34 <Cepheid> She's a star.  She apparently prefers to reside within a Dyson sphere.

08:35 <Schism> Cepheid: Have you perhaps read Jeph Jacques' "Alice Grove"?

08:35 <Cepheid> I have not.

08:36 <Schism> I suggest it.  Mildly NSFW, but it contains concepts which have been alluded to within Questionable Content about the nature of artificial life.

08:37 <Schism> And how humanity might react thereto, upon them being extremely advanced beings trying desperately to help the world rebuild itself.  It can be found here.  https://www.questionablecontent.net/alice1.html

08:37 <ConfusionRift> The issue with mine, as in my actual original one (not my pony OC), is that... he's not consistent. That would be mostly because the original is dead and gone. There are others, but fall under alternate universe versions of himself, hence the lack of consistency.

08:37 * Schism looks at her nails, and curses repeatedly. "Need a file."

08:39 <coppertiger> Real pony hours

08:41 <Cepheid> I could technically calculate her power output in terms of current solar technology efficiency and the calculations in which the solar irradiance of the sun is calculated.

08:42 <Schism> Hypothetically speaking, yes.  If she were powered by the sun.

08:43 <Schism> Oh, sorry, wrong character.

08:44 <Schism> Honestly, if I were to create a character powered by a star, I'd want a damned good Dyson sphere around it first.

08:44 <Schism> And a means of energy transmission that's not four nines of lossy.

08:44 <Cepheid> As stated, her true manifestation is that of a star.  A small one, mind, but still a star.  Using blackbody calculations, energy output can be calculated, and from there, assuming perfect absorption of all wavelengths of energy, she'd probably be in the terawatt to petawatt range of output.

08:45 <Schism> That's still not up to 'crack the planet with a punch' standards.

08:45 <Cepheid> Not quite, yes.

08:45 <Schism> Carve a mountain in half, sure.

08:46 <Cepheid> But it'd be enough to power some pretty impressive machinery and weapons.

08:46 <Schism> I would also suggest reading qntm's "Fine Structure".

08:48 <Schism> Every year, someone is imbued with super powers.  Every single person has displayed twice the abilities and strength of the last.  This has happened several times.

08:51 <Schism> Anyway, all things considered...

08:52 * Schism looks at her nails, then flops. "erh. Sleeptime, I hope."

08:54 <Schism> Koopz: If you have a decent enough video card, GShade is fantastic.  https://gposers.com/gshade/  It doesn't mess with the UI, either.

08:55 <Koopz> hmm... i might give it a try

08:55 <Schism> Just back up your settings first.

08:55 <Schism> Just in case, of course.

08:55 <Koopz> currently only have an RX Vega 56 so not sure how intensive this is

08:55 <Schism> Not very, but... do you find yourself regularly dropping below 60FPS?

08:56 <Schism> Also, you can enable and disable postshaders at whim, anyway, so you can just have it set for /gpose.

08:57 <Koopz> FPS only drops in Limsa

08:57 <Schism> Well, yes, that's Limsa.

08:57 <Koopz> ;D

08:57 * Ali sits on Schism with puffycheeks.

08:58 * Schism hugs the Ali. And graaahs. "Okay! Okay, I'll try and get some sleep!"

08:58 <Koopz> maybe it'll help me a bit with Shiva

08:58 * Ali blankets Schism and tucks to bed. "No mores talkings, sleep nows."

08:58 <Schism> Maybe?  It does also allow for alternate colourations."

08:59 * Schism flumps into bed. "Fiiine."

08:59 <Koopz> since the screenshot with the smol mercenary about to raid a town was actually taken in Shiva's arena and i feel like there's an unhealthy amount of blue light coming out of my screen#

09:00 <Koopz> it may be my imagination but i think it puts a bit of extra strain on my eyes

09:00 <Schism> Yeeeehh.  Well, you can grey that out with a postfilter, but ... that's Shiva.  I don't think there's any that's not going to be Cherenkov Blue.

09:00 <Schism> any way that's*

09:01 <Schism> You could definitely filter that, though.  Maybe make it red.  o3o;

09:01 <Schism> Postfilters like this tend to be things like resaturation, tho.

09:01 <Schism> Or added bloom, or... things like WHY AM I NOT ASLEEP

09:02 <Koopz> too much exposure to Cherenkov radiation

09:03 <Koopz> makes it hard to sleep

09:04 <Schism> It does.  Not because of the odd tingling, but because of that blue light across one's eyelids.

09:04 * Schism wraps herself up in blankets. "Darnit."

09:08 <Koopz> stop looking at this screen then

09:08 * Schism also waves a fist at a woman out there who keeps posting disconcertingly relevant comics. "Stop having been me!"

09:08 <Koopz> you know you'll regret doing that when you wake up

09:09 <Schism> I already do.  :P

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10:25 <Cepheid> I don't know what's more horrifying.

10:25 <Cepheid> The house centipede that we seem to have wandering around our fireplace, or the spider that somehow managed to catch a fly or insect of some sort that is SEVERAL TIMES IT'S SIZE.

10:26 <ConfusionRift> The unidentified insect. ._.;

10:29 <ConfusionRift> It's bigger, and you have no idea what it is.

10:31 <Cepheid> I couldn't identify it because it had already been digested from the looks of it.

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10:46 * ConfusionRift boots Grim Dawn.

11:00 <Cepheid> Whereabouts are you in it anyways?

11:01 <ConfusionRift> Just got to Necropolis.

11:02 <Cepheid> Fun, fun.  Aetherials, cultusts, blood, everywhere!

11:04 * PrincessRainbows looks up at ConfusionRift with teary eyes and hugs really tight

11:06 * ConfusionRift huggles PrincessRainbows.

11:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1991 [ http://tinyurl.com/y8ggaduj ]

11:08 <Cepheid> Overheating.  o3o

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11:24 * Cepheid wanders off to do last of chores.

11:38 <Cepheid> Much better.

11:42 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/MH_official_JP/status/1281430632464179202/photo/1 ... Seriously, Capcom?  You did a version of the Trumpet Boy meme?

11:47 <Schism> okay.

11:48 * Schism wakes up due to low blood sugar and eats entirely too much in the way of carbs.

11:49 <Cepheid> Fun

11:51 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnzUFlDeQZk

11:51 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Deadly Runners Collab (hosted by Shuriken)

11:51 * Schism goes back to sleep ... shortly.

11:54 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj69JOT3Cpc

11:54 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

11:54 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Gun Gale Collab (hosted by Fordz)

11:54 <Cepheid> So much violence.

12:01 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G61LsXVE5OA

12:01 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

12:01 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about The Homerun Contest Collab

12:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Free Comic Book Day Edition of the MLP Comics Releasing July 15th  [ http://tinyurl.com/yckmjnb5 ]

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12:34 <PinkieShy> I got sleep! 8 hours

12:35 <PinkieShy> I had remove the memory foam pillows and use the old ones..

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13:16 <ConfusionRift> Guuuh!!! Well, won't be here tomorrow. Have to work late today, and wake up early the next day. Anyways, laters!

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14:37 <Schism> Why I couldn't sleep: https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/daily-life-of-dia/problems/viewer?title_no=94272&episode_no=163

14:37 <Schism> Also, pfff.

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15:42 <Schism> I like this sign.  https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/704739263/mermaid-centaur-whatever-just-wash-your?ref=shop_home_active_7&frs=1

17:09 <LibrarianofHope> supp

17:18 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Fanfiction Updates - Fallout Equestria Edition  [ http://tinyurl.com/ya6jp8ln ]

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17:57 * Schism passes Tirek a fountain pen which inks in chocolate. And then runs off to work.

18:06 * PinkieShy licks Schism

18:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Megalovania Pony Dub  [ http://tinyurl.com/ybtlpqfh ]

18:41 <LibrarianofHope> im making a wikia

18:41 <LibrarianofHope> kinda

18:41 <LibrarianofHope> need content

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19:05 <Schism> Wish I were content.

19:06 <LibrarianofHope> if you mean happier, that takes a lot of sacrifice, effort andkinda driving oneself mad

19:06 <LibrarianofHope> and a loot of anxiety

19:07 <LibrarianofHope> they are making more indomitus boxes owo

19:07 <LibrarianofHope> the scaplers got screwed jajajaja

19:07 <Schism> You have no idea.

19:08 * Schism grumblycakes at a pillow, and savages it. With teef.

19:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3401 [ http://tinyurl.com/ycjdhbzm ]

19:08 <LibrarianofHope> what part i have no idea?

19:08 <Schism> Sacrifice, effort, and madness.  Well, you have an idea, that was mean of me.  But furrfu, do I have a long ways to go.

19:10 <LibrarianofHope> i dont mind

19:10 <LibrarianofHope> standard figure of speech anyway

19:11 * Schism spends her off time during work futzing about with her voice. "Bleh. This is going to take a long while."

19:11 <LibrarianofHope> her?

19:11 <Schism> Ah, you hadn't gotten the newsletter?

19:11 <LibrarianofHope> nope

19:12 <Schism> Yea, turns out I'm female.  Waving the pink-white-and-blue, and all that.

19:12 <LibrarianofHope> so trans girl?

19:12 * Schism shrugs. "Yup! Still me tho."

19:12 <LibrarianofHope> noted

19:12 <Schism> Thank you.

19:12 <LibrarianofHope> owo

19:12 <Schism> o3o

19:13 <LibrarianofHope> im happy they are making more boxes

19:13 <LibrarianofHope> i dont have to spend all week hearing complaints now

19:13 <LibrarianofHope> and scalpers lost mucho money

19:13 * Schism eyebrows at LibrarianofHope.

19:13 <LibrarianofHope> new warhammer edition

19:13 <Schism> You _don't_ hear complaints all week?

19:14 <LibrarianofHope> not overall no

19:14 <Schism> Lucky.  Time to go back to my job at a shoe company.

19:14 * Schism saunters off, trips halfway.

19:17 <LibrarianofHope> they did got screwed over, the ebay prices drop

19:17 <LibrarianofHope> fun day

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20:26 <PinkieShy> Last night finally sleeping after 2 days.. Felt like a cloud lol

20:26 <PinkieShy> Everything felt lovely and down right perfection.

20:26 <LibrarianofHope> you need to sleep

20:26 <LibrarianofHope> 2 days is wayyy to much

20:41 <PinkieShy> I did sleep last night.

20:41 <PinkieShy> the 2 days i didn't have sleep was Friday and Saturday.

20:42 <PinkieShy> Sunday night though.. I went to sleep early and got up this morning at 8:20am (8 hours of sleep exactly)

21:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: The Talk / Sticking Out / Accessory / BoE 8:14 / Signing Off 42 / Future 24 [ http://tinyurl.com/ycyy64db ]

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21:41 <LibrarianofHope> blank?

21:41 <LibrarianofHope> no game no life intensifies owo

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22:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Luna Music: Nicolas Dominique - Tear the Nightmare [Chillout/Soundtrack] [ http://tinyurl.com/y9y6pnb5 ]

22:08 * LibrarianofHope glomps ali for great justice

22:09 * Ali acks under LibrarianofHope

22:13 <PinkieShy> I feel like my jolly good old silly self today :D

22:14 <PinkieShy> No dizzy or feeling sick from lack of sleep at all.

22:14 * PinkieShy climbs on top of balloon and starts to roll around on the balloon while jumping at the same time

22:14 <LibrarianofHope> ohh a panda

22:15 * LibrarianofHope glopms pinkieshy

22:17 <Ali> Ok GW, why would you leave Deathleaper's ability alone but its freaking useless in 9th?

22:18 <Ali> Oh everything gets -2 to hit it, BUT your *censored* rules say only a max of -1 can ever be applied.

22:30 * Ali grumps on LibrarianofHope

22:31 * LibrarianofHope vibrates on top of ali

22:31 <LibrarianofHope> librarian go brrrr

22:50 <Schism> MTO'd.  Schism go blaaaaaa

22:50 * Cepheid explodes into confetti.

22:50 * Schism blaaaas like a party horn.

22:53 <Ali> Well at least your lack of sleep gets you saved by being cut off early

22:53 * Ali pat pats Schism

22:56 <Schism> I have enough time saved up that my paycheque isn't going to be smaller, but c'moooon.

22:58 * Schism looks at some people on Twitter. Her eyelids begin to twitch. "That is not the meaning of Death of the Author, you complete..."

22:59 <Cepheid> Heh.

22:59 * Cepheid itches. She itches like an itchy witchy bitchy lychee.

23:00 * Schism pinchee.

23:00 * Schism sighs, performs more throat training.

23:01 <LibrarianofHope> death of the author

23:01 <LibrarianofHope> whta was that again? its a writing term

23:01 <Schism> It effectively means that the author's viewpoints can be removed from the body of work which they produced.  It's a rather problematic idea.

23:02 <LibrarianofHope> its actually irrational

23:02 <Schism> To wit, that the work stands on its own, independent of the author.

23:02 <LibrarianofHope> is this harry potter or hailton?

23:02 <LibrarianofHope> hamilton

23:02 <LibrarianofHope> the mob has been on hamilton at the moment

23:03 <Schism> Both and more.  The term has been around for a loooong time.

23:03 <LibrarianofHope> yeah, i mean who is the mob using it on?

23:03 <Schism> Those two works, though, have absolutely brought it to the forefront.

23:03 <LibrarianofHope> rowling i can kiiiinda see it

23:03 <Schism> Oh.  Sorry, I was not entirely clear.

23:03 <LibrarianofHope> kiinnnda

23:04 <Schism> There are some people who think that 'death of the author' means 'the author needs to die'.

23:04 <Schism> Which is just... nowhere in any kind of literary criticism anywhere?

23:04 <LibrarianofHope> i personally think twitter is mostly a mob of pshycopaths and gthat the accursed site should be destroyed

23:05 <Schism> Well, I say we nuke Facebook first and see where the rest go.

23:05 <LibrarianofHope> twiiter first

23:05 <LibrarianofHope> facebook is tamer

23:05 <Schism> Look, surely we can come to a common middle ground.

23:05 <Schism> Nuke Reddit.

23:05 <LibrarianofHope> i dont mind them much actually

23:06 * Schism bahs, and waves her hooves in the air. :P

23:06 <LibrarianofHope> rowling inst that bad i guess

23:06 <Schism> Erm...

23:06 <LibrarianofHope> i dont think she is right

23:06 <Schism> As she wants people like me to either conform or die, then yeah.  She's that bad.

23:07 <LibrarianofHope> well if they cancel her we newer fantasy writers get a void to fill

23:08 <Schism> Pff.  She's never going to be 'cancelled'.  Though I wouldn't mind having that gap.

23:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Pony Plushie Compilation #416 [ http://tinyurl.com/ydyh2meb ]

23:08 <LibrarianofHope> hamilton is just the mob wanting something to hurt

23:09 <LibrarianofHope> i just had to deal with a kinda karen type so im in the right mood to hate twitter

23:09 <Cepheid> I'll never understand how people can wish, hope, or argue that someone should die.  And I don't want to discuss it with such people.  Because Godwin's Law would inevitably be invoked.

23:10 <LibrarianofHope> it can be hatred, revenge or a bizzare sense of moral superirity

23:10 <LibrarianofHope> like all proven rapists should be executed on the spot

23:11 <LibrarianofHope> its all just become insanity now

23:12 * LibrarianofHope glomps ali

23:12 <LibrarianofHope> reality is a lie, embrace chaos

23:12 <Ali> Or feed your biomass to the Tyranids, apperently they need it.

23:13 * LibrarianofHope necrons a bunch

23:14 <PinkieShy> You know.. I have to admit

23:14 <PinkieShy> Waking up at 8:20am time sure seems to move slower throughout the day.

23:15 * PrincessRainbows flops on Ali and sighs

23:15 <PinkieShy> It feels like it has been in the 7PM area of time for about what should have been 3 hours now lol

23:15 <LibrarianofHope> time is a lie

23:15 * PinkieShy puts a paw on PrincessRainbows and looks at her with huge puppy eyes

23:16 <LibrarianofHope> the only truth is that ali is cute

23:16 * PrincessRainbows boops the PinkieShy and whimpers

23:16 <Ali> Tis a lie

23:16 * LibrarianofHope embraces saviour chaos, goes nuts

23:19 * Schism listens to "Kitty Attack!" on repeat.

23:20 * LibrarianofHope bonks Schism on her head

23:21 <LibrarianofHope> chem routine, bomk

23:21 * Schism drops a song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxp_cZxJDnM

23:22 <Schism> I am not of the opinion that J.K. should be hurt or maimed, let alone perish.  Having her be ignored would, however, suit me to a T.

23:22 * Lumindia does a hecking boop on Schism and Ali

23:23 * Schism noms Lumin's ears. :P

23:23 <LibrarianofHope> yes, they should ignore them

23:23 * Lumindia squeaks

23:23 * Lumindia snuggles the SchismPone

23:23 <LibrarianofHope> they wanna kill rowling?

23:23 <Schism> No, the idea is that the Harry Potter series should be disconnected from its author, much like the Ender's Game series should be disconnected from Orson Scott Card.  This is, of course, not entirely possible.

23:24 <LibrarianofHope> well yes

23:24 * PinkieShy stretches and listens to his bones make popping sounds

23:24 <Schism> That is the idea of the Death of the Author, though.  Nobody's saying that either author should be hurt.

23:24 <PinkieShy> It feels good too :P

23:24 <LibrarianofHope> its a bunch of confused ideas

23:24 <Cepheid> Ignored, or perhaps in jail, but unless she committed a crime, that wouldn't happen.  Dead, though?  Ehhhhh...  I don't like wishing death upon people.

23:24 <LibrarianofHope> death of the author is one thing

23:24 * Schism patpats the PinkieShy, and also stretches. Her back sounds like firecrackers, startling Alipone.

23:25 <LibrarianofHope> the opinions of rowling, while wrong, dont deserve hurt/pain

23:25 <Schism> Cepheid: Oh, the original term of the 'death of the author' ... hm.  Come to think, I've never read that particular diatribe.  I know the meaning of the term and the philosophical implications...

23:25 *** Joins: Pony|2355 (Pony2355@Pony-i454b4.cable.virginm.net)

23:25 <Schism> It wasn't ever intended to mean that the author should be ded, though.

23:25 <LibrarianofHope> orson scoot card is a homophobe, writes good

23:26 <Schism> Wrote good.

23:26 <LibrarianofHope> he died?

23:26 <Schism> No, his work's just deteriorated.

23:26 <LibrarianofHope> rowling made fantasy mainstream, and is transphobic

23:26 *** Pony|2355 is now known as ThatAnonPony

23:26 <LibrarianofHope> they can be different things

23:26 * ThatAnonPony boops a Schism.

23:27 <LibrarianofHope> the mob doesnt want to defend anyone

23:27 <LibrarianofHope> they just want to destroy and feed thier mad egos

23:27 <ThatAnonPony> Why death of the author?

23:27 <Schism> Excuse me, LibrarianofHope.  Amongst other authors, Agatha Christie and Marion Zimmer Bradley would like to have a word with you.

23:27 <LibrarianofHope> why?

23:28 <Schism> TAP: Lotta authors coming out as people readers don't want to imitate.

23:28 <LibrarianofHope> yes

23:28 <Schism> Rather, Teresa Neilsen Hayden might want to talk to you.  :P

23:28 <LibrarianofHope> why again?

23:28 <Schism> And remove all the vowels from your arguments.

23:29 <Schism> Because these are some very influential women in sf/f.

23:29 * LibrarianofHope bonks schism again

23:29 <LibrarianofHope> not that

23:29 <LibrarianofHope> i mean harry potter made fantasy as a genre way more mainstream

23:29 <LibrarianofHope> the fact rowling is a woman didnt really factor in that part

23:29 <Schism> I don't...

23:30 * Schism looks at the Chronicles of Narnia, and the Lord of the Rings, and ... dozens of other works which she read ages before Harry Potter.

23:30 <LibrarianofHope> yes, but again, it attracted a lot of people that never touched fantasy

23:31 * Schism looks back at her bookshelf, then over to LibrarianofHope. Then back to her bookshelf. And back again.

23:31 <LibrarianofHope> you have the admit i have a point

23:31 <ThatAnonPony> Maybe better to say that Rowling pulled fantasy back into the mainstream for this generation?

23:32 <LibrarianofHope> yeah that

23:32 <Schism> While I suppose you're correct in at least the sense that she rendered it more mainstream...

23:32 <Cepheid> I have...  Odd thoughts about all of this, to be honest.

23:32 <Schism> It's kind of a complicated mess, to be sure.

23:32 <LibrarianofHope> the part i care about is she opened a way for me

23:33 <LibrarianofHope> but i think she is terribly wrong on how she treats trans people

23:33 <Schism> And that's reasonable.  You can still like a person for some of the things they do, while hate them for others.

23:34 <Schism> Or at least like some of their actions, while still considering them overwhelmingly despicable.

23:34 <LibrarianofHope> i feel like that with scott card

23:34 <LibrarianofHope> good worldbuilding, lousy person

23:34 <Schism> Not entirely sure about that worldbuilding...

23:35 <LibrarianofHope> its good

23:35 <Cepheid> https://i.redd.it/n49q6d2ssla51.jpg

23:35 <Schism> Looking back, OSC had some very strange ideas about the internet and the scale of the world.

23:35 <Schism> Cepheid: Where can I get some of that ink?  :3

23:35 <LibrarianofHope> i designed my own world to be very inclusive

23:35 <LibrarianofHope> all genders, creeds

23:36 <LibrarianofHope> everyone is welcome owo

23:36 * Schism provides Cepheid with a fountain pen made entirely of chocolate.

23:36 * LibrarianofHope bonks schism a third time

23:36 <LibrarianofHope> bonk bonk bonk

23:37 <Schism> LibrarianofHope, okay okay ow.  Fine, if you're going to keep bonking, I'm going to sleep!

23:37 <Cepheid> https://i.redd.it/ze4fo4yp7la51.png

23:37 <Schism> Abyss?

23:37 <LibrarianofHope> if i keep bonking youll faint, so yes owo

23:37 <Schism> Or just Terraria?

23:37 * ThatAnonPony headtilts at chocolate fountain pen. Not sure if pun...

23:38 <Schism> ThatAnonPony, of course it's a pun.

23:38 <Cepheid> Both.

23:38 <Cepheid> It's a crossover.

23:38 <Schism> Aha.  That makes more sense now.  o3o

23:38 <LibrarianofHope> at that, i dont get why people insist on giving opinion on others gender indentity

23:38 <Cepheid> Terraria world drawn like the Made in Abyss map.

23:38 <Schism> ThatAnonPony: It uses cocoa nibs.

23:38 <Cepheid> https://i.redd.it/ffksfzdqtna51.png

23:38 <LibrarianofHope> i mean, its not a group thing

23:39 <Cepheid> https://i.redd.it/n2y0i62mpja51.jpg ....  Oh gods.

23:39 <Cepheid> https://i.redd.it/975u7fd76la51.jpg

23:39 <LibrarianofHope> is rowling considered canceled for starters?

23:39 <Schism> AhahaahHAHAAHHAHA oh you're hilarious, LibrarianofHope.

23:39 <LibrarianofHope> how will this damage harry potter

23:40 <LibrarianofHope> that can be both things

23:40 <LibrarianofHope> specify or i bonk

23:40 <Schism> I'd very much like to see a world in which Rowling is actually cancelled!  That's not the world in which we live, though.

23:40 <LibrarianofHope> what does cancel even mean?

23:40 <Schism> To silence.

23:41 <LibrarianofHope> why is the mob allowed to do this?

23:41 <LibrarianofHope> can we cancel the mob?

23:41 <Cepheid> https://i.redd.it/iqliwrz2wma51.jpg

23:41 <Schism> For example, when Colin Kaepernick was blackballed by the NFL for taking a knee, he was cancelled.  When Tucker Carlson's advertisers dropped off en masse, he maintained his spot on a very large network, and so was not cancelled.

23:41 <LibrarianofHope> i actually thought of an experimetn for that today

23:41 <LibrarianofHope> picture this

23:42 <LibrarianofHope> we design a fake persona to bait the mob in a way that is not properly evil, but enough to trigger their madness

23:42 <LibrarianofHope> fake the results of the destroyed life

23:42 <Schism> Easy enough.  Just make her female.

23:42 * Schism sighs, "Sorry, I'm bitter."

23:42 <LibrarianofHope> me too

23:43 <LibrarianofHope> i just channel it better, i have practice

23:43 * Schism nosepinches.

23:43 <LibrarianofHope> i practice something i call "destructive optimism"

23:44 <Schism> Burn the world down, let something better rise from the ashes?

23:44 <LibrarianofHope> which about means making an extra effort to raise and make a better world, let the mob types rot on their madness

23:44 <LibrarianofHope> i get my dream, become happy

23:44 <LibrarianofHope> they are still there

23:45 <LibrarianofHope> sad and regretting their choices

23:45 <LibrarianofHope> thats the best revenge

23:45 <LibrarianofHope> owo

23:48 * LibrarianofHope bonks ali and schism for great justice

23:48 <LibrarianofHope> bonk

23:49 <Cepheid> https://v.redd.it/voyydrzdhoa51

23:51 <Cepheid> While I still have chest murmurs and raspiness, my breathing is getting better from exercising.

23:53 * ThatAnonPony boops LibrarianofHope.

23:54 <LibrarianofHope> the indomitus box seems to be coming on time for the 25th release

23:54 <LibrarianofHope> yaya

23:54 <LibrarianofHope> yay

23:54 <LibrarianofHope> ill paint some ultramarines in honor of ali owo

23:55 * LibrarianofHope hides behind reinforced door

23:55 * Ali hisses

23:55 *** Quits: Golden (uid250033@Pony-sd90bk.tooting.irccloud.com) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)