Log archive of EquestriaDaily for Monday, 2020-07-20

00:00 * Schism flops upon PinkieShy.

00:00 <PinkieShy> These neighbors have been doing this like 4 or maybe 5 days in a row now.

00:00 * Schism then screams. "aaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAGAGGDLGDCIGH" and carries on like that for a few more minutes. @_@

00:01 * Lumindia flops on Schism

00:01 * Lumindia makes ponypile

00:01 * Schism continues to hat on LUmindia. And scream. o3o

00:01 <Lumindia> but I'm on you schism

00:01 <Schism> You're not on me, you're my wife.

00:01 <Lumindia> wait what?

00:01 * Schism /asdf

00:01 <Lumindia> when did the wedding happen?

00:01 <Lumindia> ah okay

00:02 <Lumindia> wait why am I the wife?

00:02 <Lumindia> D:

00:02 <Schism> I don't know, I'm the wife too!

00:02 * Schism aaaaaa

00:02 * Lumindia screams externally

00:02 <Lumindia> aaaaa

00:04 <Schism> Once I finally get off work I am going to sleep like 12 hours.  Gah.

00:05 * Lumindia offers spaghetti to Schism

00:05 <PinkieShy> Honestly if they are doing it again..

00:06 * Schism uses said spaghetti to code a game.

00:06 <Lumindia> no, bad schism

00:06 <Lumindia> the spaghetti is for noms

00:06 <PinkieShy> I might go to their house and just ask them why are they popping fireworks everyday.. (Last night it was about 11pm..)

00:06 <Schism> I've done it before, I'll do it again!

00:06 <Lumindia> no, schism, stahp! D;

00:06 * Schism codes a monstrosity. o3o

00:06 <Lumindia> aaaaa no what are you doing!

00:06 <Schism> You can't handle all these calls!

00:08 <Lumindia> Stahp!

00:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: PSA - Why Bat Ponies Are the Best, and Nothing You Say Will Ever Change My Mind [ http://tinyurl.com/y5ddqmyw ]

00:30 <Cepheid> Ow ow ow.

00:33 <Lumindia> Ceph, stahp Schism

00:33 <Lumindia> They're trying to make spaghetti ode from literal spaghetti

00:33 <Lumindia> spaghetti code*

00:39 <Cepheid> Seems reasonable to me.

00:40 <Schism> Okay, MTO'd an hour before EOS, which I guess is fine.

00:40 <Cepheid> If anything, the only oddity I see is that Schism, who is not known for coding, is coding.

00:41 <Schism> Cepheid: I have occasionally been known to debug and code.  Never did much with ATHENA, but I fixed a few bugs in other variants and have also written some funtimes in MUF and MPI.

00:41 <Cepheid> Fakir enough.

00:41 <Cepheid> Fair*

00:42 <Schism> Plus, Zachtronics.  o3o

00:42 <Schism> Lumindia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QicKI9L13Oo

00:42 <Cepheid> ...  You got me there.

00:43 <Schism> That molecule is ostensibly meant to require both red and blue.

00:48 * PrincessRainbows hugs Ali and boops her with a picture of a flower she drew

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01:40 <Lumindia> Implying I know how that game works

01:41 * Lumindia takes Schism to sleep with

01:41 <Lumindia> KMine

01:41 <Lumindia> Mine*

02:00 * PrincessRainbows licks Lumindia and sighs

02:04 <Nedemai> artwork?

02:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #2226 [ http://tinyurl.com/yxs6w8qc ]

02:09 <Nedemai> PrincessRainbows, im sorry to intrude but I heard you did some artwork and Im interested :3

02:10 <Nedemai> I hope it doesn't come across as rude to ask

02:11 <PrincessRainbows> I wish, I can't find the motivation to for the past few month but I was in process of practicing fundamental before

02:12 <Nedemai> but a picture of a flower?

02:13 <PrincessRainbows> I guess it technically counts, first painting I did

02:14 <Nedemai> of course it counts

02:17 <PrincessRainbows> I actually have one of my tablets here but on my phone atm

02:20 <PinkieShy> oh shoot!!! :O

02:20 <PinkieShy> I just got the game to win :D

02:20 <PinkieShy> I got all the werewolves killed off with my ability >:D

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03:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Pony Rap Music: N. Hollow - Violet Skies EP [Hip Hop] [ http://tinyurl.com/y3wtv8qf ]

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03:34 <Cepheid> That was a better bit of sleep.

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03:46 * luckyspirit wanders in

03:49 * luckyspirit noses Ali in greetings

03:49 * Ali squeaks

03:51 * luckyspirit huggles Ali?

03:51 * Ali huggles softly.

03:53 * luckyspirit huggles Ali in return, “hi”

03:53 * Ali wavies hoof. "Hiya."

03:54 * luckyspirit curls up with, “how have you been Ali?”

03:54 <Ali> Eh, so so.

03:56 * luckyspirit nod nods, “about the same here.”

04:01 <Cepheid> Itchy itchy itchy itchy itchy.

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04:01 <Ali> Hope it isn't a mosquito bite Cepheid

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04:02 <Ali> I have one on my leg, accidently rubbed it...then itchy itchy itchy.

04:02 <Cepheid> Nah.  It's from shaving.

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04:24 <Cepheid> Though I'm starting to think it might be allergies.  I'm itchy everywhere.

04:27 <Cepheid> ...  No wonder that pill isn't affecting me as harshly as it does.

04:27 <Cepheid> When I refilled my pill case I only put one of them in each day.  Should be 2.

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04:48 <Cepheid> Haaaaahhh!  I can do 20 pushups in a set now.

04:52 <Cyan_Spark> Nice, Cepheid

04:53 <Cepheid> Soon I'll be able to solve dungeon puzzles involving giant blocks.

04:54 * Cepheid doesn't push the blocks around. She punches them so hard they end up in their right spots out of sheer fear of being reduced to rubble.

04:59 <Cepheid> Whoops.  Lost track of time.  Next set!

05:02 <Cepheid> Heh.

05:02 <Cepheid> Tizzy comes to my aid when I do the crunches.

05:02 <Cepheid> Probably thinks I can't get up or something.

05:04 <Cyan_Spark> Is Tizzy a meow?

05:04 <Cepheid> Yeah.

05:05 * Cyan_Spark meows

05:05 <Cepheid> My mother's cat.  Bit brain damaged I think due to a three-story fall as a kitten, but yeah.

05:32 <Cepheid> I am sure a part of this is the rush from exercising, but I have this weird compulsion to want to stand in front of a full-body mirror and just rage and yell at my reflection.  Not to rage and yell at myself, but something else.  I'm not sure how to explain it.

05:37 <Cepheid> I shouldn't, though.  It'd be expensive in terms of replacing a mirror, and cleaning up all the blood.

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05:58 <Schism> "Lll....ink established.  Optimizing." "Okay, Jen's gone bye-bye, folks.  Someone else want to come up with an actual bit of tactical thinking?"

05:59 <Schism> Cepheid: Shaving makes one very itchy, yes.

05:59 <Cepheid> Heh.

06:01 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, I assume my desire to rage, yell and vent against my own reflection may be another one of those manifestations of dysphoria.  Especially since I'm pretty sure its not against myself directly, but something unidentifiable.

06:01 * Schism nods firmly.

06:04 <Cepheid> I also know its not against that voice within of mine.  Because when I envision myself raging, I regularly see a visual effect akin to a solar flare or a solar prominence blazing from my body.  Represents her rage and hatred.  She has the same emotions and feelings about whatever it is I want to vent against.

06:04 <Cepheid> Burn it.  Reduce it to cinders.  Burn the ashes.  Scatter the atoms across the void.

06:05 * Schism imagines Fefnir talking there.

06:05 <Cepheid> Heh.

06:06 <Schism> But yes, one's inner rage...

06:06 * Schism also frowns at herself. "Names are difficult. I'm thinking Jennifer. I don't know, though."

06:07 <Cepheid> I'm starting to think what she is, is actually an anthropomorphization of my own rage, hatred, anger, and...  Interestingly enough, my self-control.  Combined with personal religious beliefs.

06:07 <Cepheid> By acknowledging her existence, I feel in more control of my own emotions.

06:08 <Cepheid> A coping mechanism of sorts.  Not necessarily a bad one.

06:08 * Schism nods. "Do I contradict myself? Very well, then, I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes." --Walt Whitman

06:09 <Cepheid> He is different though.  He is an actor.

06:09 <Cepheid> I am just an average person.

06:10 <Schism> Heh, more like acknowledging those parts of yourself is hardly a bad thing.  We are all made of stars, after all.  Plural.

06:12 <Cepheid> Except in this case, I seem to have interpreted her existence as an actual star.  A miniature, sentient, immobile one, with no actual gender, but having picked one based on circumstances that she has chosen not to explain at this time.

06:13 <Schism> A variable star, of course.

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06:14 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ConfusionRift

06:15 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.

06:15 <Schism> Good morning.

06:15 * Schism rolls up to ConfusionRift. "Hi! Hi! Lea!"

06:15 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.  Takes many forms, usually through machines.  Puppets, of sorts, if you will.  Some of them that she has shown me are...  *shakes head.*  I'm sure you've seen some of the monstrosities that come out of Spore.

06:15 <Schism> So many teeth.

06:15 <ConfusionRift> "Hi! Lea! Why?!"

06:16 <Cepheid> Teeth.  Limbs.  Tentacles.  Indescribable things.

06:17 <Cepheid> I am insane.

06:17 <Schism> Well, you're at least in good company.

06:18 <Schism> I don't just have one character dictating my mood there.  I have a council.

06:18 <Cepheid> My insanity keeps me in a semblance of normality, though.

06:19 <Schism> "Hey, Fire.  Come on out." "BURN THE WORLD." "No, no.  We're not going to burn the whole thing.  Just lance an infection." "Still burn?" "Yes.  Still burn."

06:20 <Cepheid> Oh, technically there are others.  Just, you know.  I only see her world through her eyes.  Which right now is confined to a small container, with numerous cracks.  What she tells me of others is where some of my personal beliefs of existence come from.

06:21 <Schism> Freudian theory is bull[yay], but sometimes, in cases like yours, it can be helpful as an explanation.

06:24 <Cepheid> So far, general appearance of things is that stars are simply the physical manifestations of various long-lived entities.  Most usually just keep quiet.  Others take roles in existence.  In relation to a recent topic that you became infatuated with, one of them has actually proclaimed themselves to be a deity of cake.

06:25 <Schism> As Vexxarr might ask, what KIND of cake?

06:25 <Cepheid> Or, at least, something akin to it anyways.  The cultural concept of what cake is to us.

06:25 <Schism> Oh, so the metacake.

06:26 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.  Basically, anything that a culture would treat similarly to how we treat cake.

06:26 <Cepheid> That is, one of the most desirable foods in existence.

06:27 <Cepheid> ...  It wouldn't surprise me if one of their adherents was responsible for that damned meme, now that I think about it.

06:28 <Schism> We are all made of cake.  </The Morninglight>

06:28 <Cepheid> "You want to treat everything like cake?  Why?" "My god told me to."

06:29 <Ali> Is this cake thing a new meme or something?

06:29 <ConfusionRift> It is, and got out of control.

06:29 <Schism> Ali: Well, newish.  Have you seen those videos of everything being cake?

06:29 <Cepheid> Unfortunately, no way to confirm.  Can't speak with anyone outside of this body regarding it to investigate.

06:29 <Ali> No, I don't try to follow memes

06:30 <Schism> Cepheid: Just provide them with some red velvet, they'll be happy.

06:30 <Cepheid> Can see certain individuals in the night sky, but they are a tad too far away to hear our voices.

06:30 <Ali> I just don't understand memes and the like.  They're kinda stupid.

06:31 <Schism> Ali, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3Qn8Yv8k-g

06:31 * Ali nopes, no more memes

06:31 <Schism> Admittedly, if I were about to bite into a rib roast and it turned out to be cake, I'd be upset.

06:32 <Schism> Ali: It's all about cakes disguised as photorealistic objects.  That's all.

06:32 <Cepheid> And even if they could speak with me one-way, I suspect they either don't know I'm here, or a malicious intelligence is blocking them.  Whole containment vessel and all that.

06:33 <Cepheid> That said, the vessel does seem to be looking more and more worse for wear these days.

06:33 <Schism> Understanding why it's doing so, and how, is key to dealing therewith.

06:33 <Cepheid> Besides the one large crevice-like crack, there are small cracks appearing across it.

06:35 <Cepheid> ...  I wonder if this is actually my eggshell, created by my brain.

06:36 <Schism> I wouldn't pigeonhole her.  Most of our mental constructs do double- or triple-duty.

06:36 <Schism> They wear a lot of hats.

06:36 <Cepheid> That said, I am curious as to why my brain creates and/or believes all this stuff, or why I feel more normal and relaxed in doing so, despite knowing how the average person would perceive all of it.

06:37 * Schism pauses. Then rolls up, and shakes Cepheid. "Because we're WEIRD!"

06:37 <Schism> We're incomprehensibly weird people!  This is not going to change!

06:38 <Cepheid> Well, I mean, so long as nothing is telling me to "Kill them all".

06:38 <Schism> But then you look at Sniff, and you look at Filly_Nightmares, and eventually you realize that weird is pretty normal.  :P

06:38 <Schism> Are you kidding?  I get that same voice.  :P

06:39 <Cepheid> Nothing actually tells me to "kill therm all"

06:39 * Filly_Nightmares eee and curls up on Schism face

06:39 * Filly_Nightmares floofs up and skree!

06:39 * Schism patpats the floof, and puts her on Cepheid's head!

06:40 <Cepheid> Most of the time it's "Calm down" and "Let me take care of this" and "Yes, rage!  Feel the rage!  Make that enemy suffer!  Mwahahaha!  Kill those damned bugs!"

06:40 <Ali> BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD

06:41 <Schism> "I fire one bullet at them." "Okay, they dodge...?" "That is not suppressive fire." "Wait for it." *bom* "That is suppression."

06:42 <Cepheid> Then there are times when something literally takes over my head, flattens my emotions and thinking, and then kind of just blaze (metaphorically) through something.

06:42 <Schism> It's hard not to want to burn down everything sometimes.  Especially these days.

06:44 <Cepheid> It feels like something is taking my emotions, which are concentrated somewhere, and spreading the sensation over my entire body.  Like whatever it is, is diluting the emotions, putting them in their place.  Making them feel inconsequential.  This tends to happen mostly with negative emotions.

06:47 <Cepheid> Like, for example, I'm in a game, having trouble with something, maybe a boss.  Frustration builds from repeated failure.  I reach some undefined breaking point.  Then the sensation just washes over me.  Frustration is gone.  Minor twitching stops.  Things feel like they slow down.  My brain and eyes become more responsive to slight changes.

06:47 <Cepheid> Then the next thing I know, whatever was in my way is dead.  Horribly so.

06:48 <Cepheid> You remember that time we first did the World of Darkness in FF14?

06:49 <Cepheid> Happened twice there.  Once against that chained dog.  The other time, the Cloud of Darkness.

06:49 <Cepheid> See also, end of Coil 1.

06:49 <Schism> Yeeesh.  o.o

06:50 <Schism> Berserkism.

06:50 <Cepheid> It is the weirdest damned sensation.  Like, I'm in control, but anything that might interfere just...  It all goes silent.

06:51 <Cepheid> It happens with more than just games too.  Exams.  Assignments.  Projects.

06:52 <Cepheid> It's like something snaps within me and goes "Yeah, okay, I'm not dealing with this anymore." and just silences everything.

06:53 <Cepheid> Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to work against everything.  My depression for example.

06:53 <Cepheid> Wonder if it would manifest against Omega.

06:54 * ConfusionRift huggles Ali. No reason why. Just a huggle.

06:54 <Schism> Fugue state... well, it might.

06:54 * Ali leans into hugs..

06:55 <Cepheid> Omega, you call yourself the Omega to our Alpha Group, but you failed to see that the True Omega exists within this group.

06:55 <Schism> There's a mechanized skeleton inside all of us.

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06:57 * PrincessRainbows hugs Ali and flops

06:59 <Cepheid> Destruction is the true, absolute end of all things, the True Omega to Creation's True Alpha.

07:00 * Cepheid is insane again. Whee.

07:01 <Schism> There's a part of myself which I would describe as entropy, the thirteenth character.

07:03 * PrincessRainbows also licks ConfusionRift a lot and makes grabby hooves

07:03 * ConfusionRift grabbies PrincessRainbows and pets.

07:03 <Cepheid> Hum.  Awareness +1.  My belief system is Ouroboros-like in nature.  All that ends by the appendage of Destruction is returned to Creation, to be re-used in an infinite cycle.

07:03 <Schism> The proverbial forest fire.

07:04 * PrincessRainbows makes silly filly noises and yays

07:04 * Schism chuckles at a bit of writing she did in the past. "Half the people on the Shadowrun wiki dislike little in-character codas. The other half like them."

07:05 <Cepheid> Currently, for some unknown reason, I am in the aforementioned state.

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07:05 <Cepheid> Perhaps by describing it, I triggered it.

07:06 * PrincessRainbows grabs her pacifier and clutches ConfusionRift like a plushie for sleepies. Nini

07:07 <Cepheid> For the record, despite my statements, I do not see myself, or Cepheid as a deity.  Powerful in our own ways, yes, but not that powerful.  There are always bigger fish.  Some of them aggressive and dangerous.

07:08 <Finwe> Morning, everypony!

07:08 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)

07:08 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift, Capt Koopz.

07:08 <Finwe> o7

07:09 * Cepheid researches ouroboros out of curiousity.

07:09 <Koopz> RAdm. Finwe o7

07:09 <Cepheid> I know the basic meaning, but not the history as far as human civilization is concerned.

07:09 <Finwe> Huh, the relative humidity is up to almost 90%.

07:09 <Finwe> I wonder whether there is a storm brewing.

07:09 * PrincessRainbows boops Finwe with ConfusionRift and resumes sleepies

07:10 <Finwe> Good night, PrincessRainbows.

07:10 * Finwe kisses PrincessRainbows goodnight.

07:11 <Finwe> The air pressure is perfectly normal, though.

07:13 <Cepheid> I am not sure I would use humidity as an indicator of a storm, as it is considered a relative factor.  Pressure and variance in temperature across a region might be a better indicator, possibly.  But then, I'm not a storm tracker, or meteorologist.

07:15 * Schism revisits some of the writing she's done for Shadowrun. "Oh, I'd forgotten about this. So many, many snarky characters."

07:18 <Cepheid> Huh.  So that's what "gnosis" means.

07:19 <Schism> Oh gods, I can't believe I wrote these bits.  X3  https://shadowrun.fandom.com/wiki/Street_clinic

07:21 <Cepheid> And I almost asked a stupid math question. o3o

07:24 <Cepheid> ...  When I read of Kekulé's dream, I feel less concerned about all the various little visions I have.

07:25 <Schism> Gee, it just so happens that learning that a lot of people are just like you helps a lot.  :P

07:25 <Cepheid> Yes, yes.

07:26 <Cepheid> You know, it's only within the last few years that these revelations have started to make themselves apparent because I have my mental health under better, more structured control.

07:27 <Cepheid> ... Okay it is not mean imagination.  Something in this kitchen stinks.  Probably the composting and garbage.  Something in them that is rotting poorly.

07:27 <Schism> Having the werewithal to actually listen to that voice in your head, instead of screaming back at it, probably helps a lot.

07:27 <Schism> ... oh.  Ew.

07:30 <Cepheid> Okay, my parents have to be aware of some mental trait about me.  They've never been this bloody lazy.

07:31 <Cepheid> They know I'll take care of certain things out of sheer frustration.

07:31 <Cepheid> The composting bin was so full it couldn't be closed.  The bag itself barely tied closed.

07:32 <Schism> Augh...

07:33 <Cepheid> There was broccoli in it turning black.

07:34 <Cepheid> In any case, cleaning both bins out was indeed what needed to be done.

07:35 <Cepheid> I'm gonna make it a chore I do every second day to empty these bins regardless of fill level.

07:38 <Cepheid> Hmm.  80 pushups total.  75 crunches.  Another week, I'll surpass 100.

07:40 * Cepheid makes her way down River City to beat up a bunch of punks and school bullies in incomprehensible locations.

07:44 <Cepheid> !link https://youtu.be/Fd8JxqayNO0

07:44 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

07:45 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Zardonic - Takeover (Official Music Video) ft. The Qemists

07:46 <ConfusionRift> ~Making my way downtown, throwing trash, throwing trash, throwing trash, THROWING TRASH-~

07:49 <Cepheid> !link https://youtu.be/wosMXEWlWgE

07:49 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

07:49 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about FINAL FANTASY XIV: Journeys - eScape Music Video (THE PRIMALS)

07:54 * Cepheid starts prototyping a machine.

07:54 * Schism shouts, "A chicken tender!

07:55 <Schism> Away with the tide~

08:01 <Schism> Hm.  Time's back to normal now.

08:01 <Schism> That was very peculiar yesterday.

08:01 <Cepheid> Heh.

08:05 <Cepheid> Damn headphones.

08:10 * ConfusionRift looks over, then sits back. "No idea."

08:10 <Schism> ConfusionRift: eScape's lyrics are imprenetrable.

08:10 <Cepheid> Getting a headache from rise in head temp.  Hum.

08:11 * Cepheid sits in front of A/C with it directed at her head.

08:11 <Ali> Headon, applied directly to the forehead *repeated 40 more times*

08:13 * Cepheid applies a freezie to mouth instead. Nom nom.

08:14 <ConfusionRift> "eScape's lyrics are imprenetrable." | (sits there, barely understanding them as they get completely drowned by the rest)

08:14 <ConfusionRift> Not a lyrics person anyways.

08:14 <Schism> In deaf'ning silence, away with the tide~

08:15 <Cepheid> Not the brand or flavor I want(apparently, said brand is out of season now?), but these will do.

08:17 <Cepheid> Also don't worry Rifty.  The lyrics are nonsense to me as well.  Probably requires understanding the full Omega storyline in FF14.

08:19 <Cepheid> Omega being an ancient Allagan weapon, despite it somehow being the same Omega that has existed in every other FF game, meaning it basically has always been.

08:21 <Cepheid> Hum.  Assuming that Omega is the End, and has always been.  Would that make Lavos and the Time Eater differentiated forms of Omega?

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08:41 * Ali blehs and flops over Schism

08:44 * Schism hugs the Ali, and giggles insanely at some writing she did years ago.

08:48 <Schism> ( This thing.  https://shadowrun.fandom.com/wiki/Street_clinic )

08:48 <Schism> Amargi always makes me giggle, because he's such a salty doctor.

08:53 <ConfusionRift> Sorry, was taking a quick shower. But yeah, considering I also have zero knowledge of the FF series, everything just goes over me.

08:53 <Schism> Eh, giant empire upset about magic wants to obliterate magical empire next to them.

08:59 <Finwe> Miss Ali.

08:59 * Finwe doffs his hat.

08:59 * Ali wavies

08:59 * Finwe noms on tuna salad.

09:02 <Cepheid> The only consistent details about Omega itself, are that A)  It was designed to kill Shinryu, B)  It knows of, and utilizes the Cleft of Dimensions, and may as well be considered to reside there, and C)  As a result of B, the Omega in each FF game is the same Omega.

09:02 <Cepheid> C is supposedly explained by FF12.

09:02 <Cepheid> In that the various Omegas seen are shades, clones or children of the original Omega.

09:04 <Cepheid> Though, it appears FF14 retcons B somewhat.

09:04 <Cepheid> Er, not B, A.

09:04 * Schism smiles at Sabot12, an Orcish jerkface who presents as completely neutral, and is, ultimately.

09:05 <Schism> Poor guy is doing alright, all in all.

09:08 <ConfusionRift> Well... time to stare at the games list and probably not select any.

09:08 <Cepheid> Heh.

09:08 <Schism> You could always play URU again.

09:08 <Cepheid> I've been having trouble playing games lately again, myself.

09:08 <Cepheid> Mostly though it's related to the weather.

09:09 <ConfusionRift> Again? Haven't played it yet! Got tired of getting it running.

09:11 <Schism> Oh.  o.o  Hopefully you'll get it going soon.

09:11 <ConfusionRift> I don't know what it is. It's not the runtime, it's not a driver, it's not the OS, it's not the VPN, it's not the downloaded version, it's not a software conflict, it's not something that I can find.

09:11 <ConfusionRift> None of the suggestions work. None.

09:12 <Schism> It's probably DirectX and the physics engine screwing you over.

09:12 * Cepheid keels over holding stomach. "Sugar..."

09:12 <ConfusionRift> I even went through the garbage of virtualization, and got the same issues.

09:13 * Schism hugs the Cepheid. And also blinks at ConfusionRift. "How...?"

09:13 <ConfusionRift> Yes, I tried to run it on a Win 95 and 2k. they just don't work.

09:13 <Schism> What sort of madness is that?  I can run it just fine on 8.1.

09:13 * ConfusionRift shrugs. "It hates me, I guess."

09:13 <Schism> Fuuu.

09:14 <ConfusionRift> It's not DirectX, trust me.

09:15 <ConfusionRift> It's not the frameworks either, since those I installed the right ones as well.

09:15 <ConfusionRift> ...the hell?

09:15 <Cepheid> Good ole' fun bugs.

09:15 <ConfusionRift> I installed the required ones.

09:16 <Schism> Yerp...

09:16 <ConfusionRift> So... whatever it is, it's supposedly server side... but it isn't server side, since everyone else is still playing it.

09:16 <Schism> Maybe it's an issue with PhysX.

09:17 <Cepheid> Sounds more like it uses something that doesn't exist on Rifty's machine somehow.

09:18 <ConfusionRift> How is it possible for me to run Terminal Velocity with no issues, and this one game is giving me the stink eye?

09:19 <Cepheid> Because Terminal Velocity doesn't require any weird CPU extensions or special functionality of more recent CPUs designs.

09:21 <ConfusionRift> I... suppose...

09:21 <Cepheid> There's a bunch of them.  3DNow!, MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSE4, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, AVX, AVX2, AVX-512, etc.  And then of course there is the proprietary libraries for video cards, such as, as Schism mentioned, PhysX, which is specific to nVidia.

09:21 <Cepheid> Any sort of reliance on these sorts of things can create problems when said features are not implemented, or not supported, by the computer.

09:22 <Cepheid> And yes, it is possible for a CPU to be lacking an extension that should be there.

09:22 <ConfusionRift> I know I know. PC world is weird like that. And, of course, no point on keeping specific bound instructions and processes when they are basically obsolete.

09:23 <Cepheid> Especially deprecated instruction sets.

09:23 <ConfusionRift> And then... retro gaming happens, and all goes kapoot, unless one can find some way to get everything running.

09:23 <Cepheid> Or, in the case of Intel, instruction sets you didn't make.

09:25 * ConfusionRift chuckles at the older games. "How can one visualize using a knife? Hmm... how about throwing it like a rock?!"

09:26 <Cepheid> I mean, there are functional benefits to using the extensions, but because of their lack of prevelence in many cases, using the more recent extensions is a dangerous proposition.  If you want to use them, you're better off creating multiple versions of the executable that support different sets.

09:26 <Cepheid> At which point you just made your life a living hell.

09:28 <Cepheid> Many of said extensions have some arcane requirements that don't immediately translate to conventional, generic code.

09:28 <Cepheid> For example, to use AVX instructions, the addresses that you pass to them have to be multiples of some number, depending on the AVX set and the data type.

09:28 <Cepheid> Which is harder than it sounds.

09:29 <Cepheid> Because the conventional memory allocation routines do *NOT* allocate at those multiples.

09:29 * ConfusionRift lightly shakes Schism. "I'mma sowwyyyyyyyy!"

09:29 <Cepheid> So if you allocate a buffer of say, 800 floats, shove some data into them, then pass them to the AVX instructions, it'll probably crash because it expected the addresses to be multiples of 4, when the base memory buffer address is not aligned to a multiple of 4.

09:30 <ConfusionRift> Woooaaah... Steam. That's... hmmmm, should I?

09:30 * Cepheid had this happen when he was playing with AVX a couple weeks back.

09:30 <Cepheid> Had an array of 4000 floats, was testing the SSE square root functionality against the conventional C library square root function.  The buffer was being allocated to some address that was a multiple of 2, instead of 4.

09:31 <ConfusionRift> From Far Cry 1 to Far Cry: Primal for $20.87.

09:31 <Cepheid> When I tried to pass the buffer, it'd crash.  :D

09:31 <Cepheid> Oh, nice.

09:33 <ConfusionRift> Oh yeah, there are issues with memory as well. It's just a bunch of... well, it was a different structure that it was built on in comparison to now.

09:34 <Cepheid> Yeah, but that actually has less importance in regards to programming and coding than you think.

09:35 <Cepheid> The two biggest distinctions with RAM are Video RAM and System RAM.

09:35 <Cepheid> The two work differently, for various reasons.

09:35 <Cepheid> Beyond that..

09:36 <Cepheid> If you're an optimizing developer, you want to concern yourself with the various levels of cache.  But in general, you'll only ever really worry about L1 and maybe L2.

09:36 <Cepheid> But dealing with the cache in programming is a bit of an arcane skill.  I have some experience with it, but nothing major.

09:37 <Cepheid> RAM considerations also come into play when, again, you're dealing with extensions.

09:38 <Cepheid> Basically, address alignment is a concept wherein data is stored aligned to some multiple of a power of two.

09:38 <Cepheid> Usually, the size of the relevant data type.

09:39 <Cepheid> The purpose behind it is entirely performance related.  The CPU has to do more work for mis-aligned data.

09:40 <Cepheid> Compilers are generally good about handling this though to ensure reasonable performance.  In declaring and defining new data structures and classes, the compilers will automatically add padding between various bits of data to ensure that all the relevant data is aligned properly to avoid problems.

09:40 <Cepheid> It only ever becomes a problem if you start doing stuff that the compiler is NOT aware of.

09:41 <Cepheid> For, example, using CPU extension instructions.  Like SSE.  AVX.

09:42 <Cepheid> These instructions appear to be very, very specific about how they expect data(addresses, literal data, etc) to be passed to them.

09:43 <Cepheid> Again, the vectorized floating point square root instruction.  It expected addresses of data passed to it to be a multiple of four(If you can divide the address by 4 with no remainder, you're good!)  The memory allocator in use at the time was returning an address that was not a multiple of four.

09:43 <Cepheid> Updates to C and C++ have apparently added standardized functions to deal with this, but... yeah.

09:43 <Cepheid> They're not the easiest things to use.

09:45 <Cepheid> I actually found it somewhat interesting to see that the address returned by the allocator, despite specifying a data type of a set size, was returning a non-aligned address.

09:47 <Cepheid> Oooh.  Mother's working days.  That means both my parents will be gone this morning from at least 9 AM onwards.

09:47 * Cepheid gets hair trimmer out. A glint in her eye.

09:48 <Cepheid> But yeah, architectural-level considerations for programming are... AAAGJDHKSGHSJLKD

09:49 <Cepheid> You can use certain keywords to change the compiler's behaviour to ensure exact, specific details, but then you take a hit to performance for it.

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09:50 <Cepheid> To give you an idea as to why alignment is critical..  You got an 8-byte integer, a 64-bit integer otherwise now known as a "long long" data type in C and C++.  For simplicity, let's say it's stored at address 0.

09:51 <Cepheid> 0 % 8 = 0.  It's aligned.  So, the instruction to load it is simple.  It's just a "Load 64-bit integer into register X" instruction.  Simple enough.

09:51 <Cepheid> Let's change that address to 4.  It's now mis-aligned.  4 % 8 = 4.

09:52 <Cepheid> Depending on architecture, it might not be a single instruction anymore.

09:54 <Cepheid> Trivial, terrible solution is "Load 64-bit integer at address 0 into register A", "Load 64-bit integer at address 8 into register B."  "Shift register A to the left by 4 bytes."  "Shift register B to the right by 4 bytes."  "OR Register A with Register B and store result in Register A."

09:54 <Cepheid> Went from one instruction to five!

09:57 <Cepheid> And this is legitimately how some CPUs work.  They only allow loading data from addresses that are aligned to their relevant data type size.  64-bit data types, this is 8 byte alignment, 32-bit, 4 byte, 16-bit, 2 byte, and 8-bit, 1 byte.  If you attempt to read or write to addresses that are mis-aligned, they have to be split up into multiple load instructions, with shifting and bit operations involved.

09:57 <Cepheid> Which is why I hate the Internet, by the way.

09:57 <ConfusionRift> What THE F(bleep)?!

09:57 <Cepheid> Or any type of communications protocol with respect to networking, or inter-network or inter-process communication.

09:58 <Cepheid> Because all of these types of communication use what is known as "packed" data.

09:58 <Cepheid> Packed data is basically data that is intentionally mis-aligned to avoid wasting bandwidth on padding.

09:59 <ConfusionRift> So... I decided to give the troubleshooting one last hurrah. Used the launcher, updated, asked for a new Physix engine update, installed it... and now it's running.

09:59 <ConfusionRift> I'm so mad.

10:01 <Cepheid> Huh.

10:02 <Cepheid> It's worth noting that you should generally install exact, specific versions of libraries and such.

10:02 <ConfusionRift> I did. Several times. With the installer, AND manually. It didn't work previously.

10:03 <Cepheid> Right, right.  Sorry.

10:04 <ConfusionRift> I wasted three days on this. Three. And suddenly, "oh, well, the problem is not there, whatchu talkin' about?".

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10:25 <Cepheid> Welcome to the hell that is computers.

10:25 * Cepheid is covered in cables, computer hardware, and electronics in general. The pile just keeps getting worse as time goes on.

10:28 * Cepheid works on a maze generator. o3o

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10:49 <Cepheid> People, rule #1 when travelling anywhere:  Don't bring food.

10:49 <Cepheid> Don't pack food.  Any food.  At all.

11:00 <Cepheid> Bah.  I can't focus on this.

11:01 <Cepheid> I need to take a shower and get cleaned up, I think.

11:02 <Cepheid> But I have to wait a bit.  Until my dad leaves for work.

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11:05 * Cepheid sits atop Schism's head.

11:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1998 [ http://tinyurl.com/y6o8lunx ]

11:11 <Cepheid> ... Huh, Satisfactory uses a single map.

11:18 * ConfusionRift nods.

11:18 <ConfusionRift> depending on the "difficulty", one starts on certain areas.

11:19 <Cepheid> Yeah, so I see.

11:19 <ConfusionRift> But generally, it's all in the same map every time.

11:19 <Cepheid> That does explain a bit, like how it generates such a nice world.  Kinda limits things, though.

11:19 <ConfusionRift> I bet it will eventually change down the road.

11:19 <ConfusionRift> If not, probably gets massively expanded.

11:20 <Cepheid> Seems more like they want a specifically designed map.

11:20 <Cepheid> Which, given the 3D nature, I can kinda understand.

11:20 <Cepheid> It's hard to make a randomly generated map that looks realistic and interesting at the same time.

11:21 <ConfusionRift> Not to mention the mess it can turn into during generation.

11:22 <Cepheid> I wonder how long before someone says "Enough is enough" and tries training an AI to generate maps, using hand-crafted regions to give an idea as to what the designer wants.

11:31 <Cepheid> Week and a day for my new laptop to arrive.  o3o

11:34 <Cepheid> Right, I'm gonna go take a looooong, cool shower.  If I don't return, assume I bled out, and destroy all my equipment please.

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11:35 <ConfusionRift> Okaday.

12:08 * Nedemai doooooodles

12:08 <Nedemai> how is everyone this morning?

12:09 <ConfusionRift> Doing okay-dokay.. Just playing.

12:37 <Lumindia> headache

12:37 <Lumindia> @_@

12:37 * Lumindia hecjks

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12:49 <Cepheid> Well that almost ended badly.

12:50 <Cepheid> About halfway into my shower and shaving, my blood sugar decided it wanted to ride the rollercoaster.

12:50 <Cepheid> However, I averted disaster so I'm good.

12:53 <Lumindia> D:

12:53 <Cepheid> Also, apparently I'm impervious to razor blades.

12:56 <Cepheid> Not a single nick or cut on me, outside of what was already there on my legs from the cats.

13:01 <Cepheid> That said, need to have a chat with my sister.

13:01 <Cepheid> She took my last good razor blade head.

13:09 * Cepheid sends off an e-mail to sister. "Crystal. Sister, friend, sibling. Did you take my last razor blade head? Love, your murderous sibling, Andrew."

13:16 <Cyan_Spark> Crystal sounds like a pony name.

13:17 <Cepheid> And yet, it is my sister's name.  She doesn't like it.

13:17 <Cepheid> It sounds like the name of someone who works at a certain type of establishment.

13:21 * Cyan_Spark scrunches, thinking for a bit

13:23 <Cyan_Spark> https://derpibooru.org/images/2003001 A Crystal pony

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13:28 <ConfusionRift> Well, sleep time. Laters!

13:28 <Cepheid> G'night!

13:28 <Cepheid> Sleep well

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13:29 <Cepheid> My greatest concern at this point now isn't my parents freaking out that I shaved my legs, but my mother and sister plotting to murder me because I can shave my legs without cutting myself in any way shape or form.

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13:32 <Nedemai> I managed to get 3 vials of blood taken and an xray on my foot between when I sent that message and now

13:33 <Nedemai> next, sort out some finance stuphs

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13:35 <Cepheid> Heh.

13:35 <Cepheid> Your foot okay I hope?

13:38 * Cepheid wanders off to finish up cleaning.

13:54 <LibrarianofHope> i saw such a bad movie yesterday

13:55 <LibrarianofHope> mexico used to have such great movies, we had such actors

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14:14 <Cepheid> https://media.tenor.com/images/d93523c4db7e20254c4dcd512029d51e/tenor.gif How I feel right now.

14:14 <LibrarianofHope> cute and with cat ears?

14:15 <Cepheid> Yes.

14:15 <Cepheid> And giddy.

14:20 * Lumindia earscritches Ceph

14:21 * Cepheid purrs.

14:30 <Cepheid> Seriously tho, why is my skin so resistant to cutting?  I was warned up and down that I'd cut myself shaving my legs, but there's not a scratch on me.  At least, not one caused by me.  Cat scratches, scars from when I had a stack of milk crates fall on me..  Yeah.

14:30 <Cepheid> But not a single cut or scratch otherwise

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15:03 <Lumindia> *shrug*

15:04 <Cepheid> Won't lie though, my legs look better this way.  o3o

15:34 * Schism awakens. Also, is jealous of Cephy. "Yes, legs do look better when shaven."

15:35 <Cepheid> Feel better, too.  o3o

15:35 <Cepheid> My sister claims she was not the one who took my last good razor blade, though.  So either she's lying through her teeth, or one of my parents took it.

15:37 <Schism> Probably the latter.

15:37 <Cepheid> Oh well.  All it did was make it take a bit longer.

15:40 * Schism considers the character of Amargi Soleau. A very angry and dissatisfied street doc who's constantly beset by idiots, and has all the bedside manner of a starving wolverine.

15:41 <Cepheid> So, your average Pandora citizen from the Borderlands series.

15:41 <Schism> More Shadowrun, but yes.  o3o

15:41 <Cepheid> I know.  Just commenting in terms I'm familiar with. :P

15:42 <Schism> "Half the street samurais I treat come in asking if I can reattach their arm."

15:43 <Cepheid> So, Pandoran bandits.

15:44 <Schism> Yes, that too.

15:44 <Schism> "Never go to a clinic that promises the moon, never go to a clinic that specializes in blood magic, and above all else, never try to blackmail your doctor."

15:45 <Cepheid> Also, stop sticking weird magical crystals into your body.

15:45 <Cepheid> It won't give you weird super freaky powers.

15:46 <Cepheid> http://www.threepanelsoul.com/

15:47 <Schism> Did you ever get a planter of catgrass?

15:48 <Cepheid> Alas, no.

15:48 <Schism> While it seems like the sort of thing that Tizzy and Spitfire might appreciate, I can also imagine the idiot dog wolfing the whole thing down.

15:48 <Schism> ... Tedd is rightly concerned.  https://www.egscomics.com/

15:51 <Cepheid> Ah yes.  EGS.  One of the many comics that made me question a lot of things.

15:52 <Schism> Aye, same.

15:53 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/pixel__toast/status/1285240634152906757

15:55 <Cepheid> Schism, I don't know why, but I seem to be resistant to cutting.

15:55 * Schism splorfs at "A Girl and her Fed". "That is not the mentor I was expecting, and yet, it is so, so satisfying to know that Avery is an Olympic-class ninja."

15:55 * Cepheid has Resist Cut++ innately

15:55 <Schism> That is a bit odd, to be sure!  Helpful, but odd.

15:55 <Cepheid> Not a single cut on me anywhere from shaving.

15:56 <Cepheid> The only thing of note about my skin is the oily film.  Which I suspect has something to do with my resistance to being cut.

15:57 <Cepheid> Doesn't work for piercing attacks, though.

15:58 <Schism> How I feel some days: http://skin-horse.com/

15:59 <Cepheid> Heh.

16:01 <Cepheid> Hum.  Shin Megami Tensei III is getting a re-release, and Shin Megami Tensei V was announced.

16:04 * Schism eyebrows. "SMT3? I think I've heard that was the equivalent of Ys 5 in terms of difficulty."

16:05 * Cepheid shrugs.

16:06 <Schism> I know, kind of a moot point.  I'm glad that Atlus is porting their older games."

16:06 <Cepheid> All I see is another set of games in which to attack and dethrone god, the devil, or the embodiment of humanity.

16:06 * Schism removes that extraneous quote.

16:06 <Schism> I should play Disgaea more, too.  o3o

16:07 <Cepheid> I need to grab the Disgaea 4 port for the Switch.  Then go through Disgaea 4 and 5.

16:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Show Song Cover: Ocean Melody - Equestria the Land I Love (Covering Daniel Ingram) [Orchestral] [ http://tinyurl.com/y6ch93an ]

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16:21 <Schism> "Are you a devious, plotting, unreliable madman?  Ah, good, then you can be my trusted advisor."

16:22 <Cepheid> Interestingly, it's the ones who advertise that they are devious, scheming backstabbers that are probably the most trustworthy.

16:22 <Schism> "Yes, but my knife isn't aimed at your back."

16:22 <Cepheid> Exactly.

16:23 <Schism> It's perfectly reasonable to be happy with being a close second to the throne.  All the power and reputation, and many fewer bullets aimed at you.

16:23 <Cepheid> Plus you're not the one who has to fix all the problems in the kingdom.

16:23 <Cepheid> Just the problems within the throneroom.

16:24 <Cepheid> AKA:  All the backstabbing arses with the weapons guarding the throne.

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16:25 <Schism> And all the nobility, who are venal enough to shoot for the position of emperor and yet entirely, ridiculously lacking in circumspection.

16:26 <Cepheid> The nobility are the worst.  Both in terms of their backstabbing nature, and at how bad they are at backstabbing.  But, in their defense..

16:26 <Cepheid> When you put so much focus in attempting regicide, you kind of lose track of what's going on around you.

16:26 <Cepheid> Which leaves you open to being backstabbed.

16:26 <Schism> This is in many ways illustrated by Vimes' relationship with Vetinari, in the Discworld series.  Vimes is made the Duke of Ankh in part due to the fact that he is a suspicious, conniving bastard.

16:27 <Schism> Also, yes.  X3

16:27 <Cepheid> I can totally see a nobleman stabbing the king.  Then getting stabbed by another nobleman.  Who gets stabbed by a noblewoman.  Who gets stabbed by the street urchin.

16:28 <Schism> Who then rises to the throne and has two children, one of whom is pure of heart and the other one of which stabs him in the heart.

16:28 <Schism> Not that we've ever read that story before or anything.

16:28 <Cepheid> Heh.

16:35 <Starlight_Glimmer> !mail Ali Come out and play :3 https://derpibooru.org/images/2401041

16:35 <DerpyBot> Thank you for using the Derpy Mail Service 6_9

16:35 <Starlight_Glimmer> Heh guess I'm glad Derpy trims input.

16:36 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.  Common operation.

16:44 <Cepheid> https://i.imgur.com/2tGXHJJ.jpg

16:44 * Schism takes the instruction to 'source your damn posts' seriously. And frowns. "Why people are spreading misinformation about the excesses and horrors out there, when reality is bad enough, escapes me."

16:44 <Schism> Aw, that is cute.  :3

16:45 <Schism> Robots, tho?

16:45 <Schism> Well, gynoids?

16:45 <Cepheid> Hmm?

16:46 <Schism> Note the leg and arm seams.

16:46 <Nedemai> !!

16:46 <Cepheid> Nope.  Humanoid animals, apparently.

16:46 <Nedemai> I sketched Michiru quickly this morning

16:46 <Cepheid> Those are probably just sketch details or something.

16:46 <Schism> Mm.

16:47 * Cepheid has not seen BNA. Should check it out.

16:47 <Nedemai> those characters are from the show BNA

16:47 <Schism> Oh, right!  Brand New Animal, not sure why I didn't recognize them.

16:48 <Nedemai> yea, this was my quick morning doodle

16:48 <Nedemai> I hope this link works

16:48 <Nedemai> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/560608510929272842/734744937811279882/bna.png

16:48 <Schism> "No, I'm not furry." [sees Beastars and BNA] "...n-no, I'm still not furry."

16:48 <Schism> Nice!

16:49 <Nedemai> I think the line is at what sort of attire you have hidden in your closet

16:49 <Nedemai> ... ah fuck... I forgot I've got a cat onsie in there somewhere

16:49 * Schism eyebrows. Then laughs.

16:49 * Nedemai laughs

16:49 <Nedemai> I bought it at anime north for the rave

16:49 <Nedemai> a few years ago

16:50 <Schism> C'est la vie.

16:50 <Nedemai> all I've got to say is "I am whatever you say I am"

16:50 <Nedemai> personally, its no concern of mine unless you make it my problem

16:50 <Schism> Don't care, fandoms are fandoms, like what you like.

16:50 <Nedemai> exactly~!

16:51 * Schism shrugs, has various characters of that stripe. (No tigers or zebras, tho.)

16:51 <Schism> ... "Disney World will no longer allow visitors to eat or drink while walking around the park."  Close back down already, you nitwits.

16:53 <Nedemai> the moment you realize the entire US economy structure was gutted and redesigned around the largest profit margins without any sustainability...

16:54 * Schism attempts to pass a camel through the eye of a needle, but it just refuses to budge.

16:57 <Cepheid> Why are you trying to do thast?

16:58 <Schism> Mostly to see how difficult it really is for a rich person to get into heaven.

16:59 <Schism> Evidently, it's rather hard.

17:02 <Schism> Some translations refer to it as a twisted rope rather than a literal animal, but the meaning is roughly equivalent.

17:03 <Cepheid> Ah.

17:11 <Schism> Randomly, I would like to see at least one game make "Cameleopard" an entry in their list of creatures.  

17:11 <Schism> Just because it would be suitably silly.

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17:15 * LibrarianofHope passes a camel pack of ciggarates through a novelty oversized needle

17:15 <LibrarianofHope> i mean, if its not expresivly forbidden it works

17:16 <Schism> A sensible solution.  o3o  But please note that by design, all lawyers wind up in Hell.

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17:18 <LibrarianofHope> im goign to mexican hell, its an infeccient corrupted mess that doesnt work so nothing happens as it should

17:18 <LibrarianofHope> thats a full joke i know,but its very local to try and translate

17:19 <Schism> The lines are long, the torture devices are broken down, and the demons are all just hanging around sipping shandy while you wait to be punished.

17:19 <LibrarianofHope> yeah that

17:20 <LibrarianofHope> you know the joke too or just guesses?

17:20 <Schism> I'm familiar with the line of jokes.  :P

17:21 <Schism> Meanwhile, in Canadian Hell, the torture staff are polite, efficient and utterly ineffectual.

17:22 <LibrarianofHope> whats the US one like?

17:22 <Schism> [DATA REDACTED].  I'd rather not speculate at the moment.

17:28 <Schism> "What the hell am I supposed to do with this giant feather?" "I dunno.  Either tickle me mercilessly, or rip out my heart and weigh it against it." "...I think I'll stick with the tickling." "You sure?  I've had my heart ripped out a couple times in the past already." "Yeah, but that's icky." "Suit yourself."

17:28 <LibrarianofHope> the new 40k edition comes out saturday owo

17:28 <LibrarianofHope> gonna be assembling stuff for a couple of days at least

17:40 <Cepheid> For the love of-  dog, go lay down.  Stop following me.

17:41 <Cepheid> I wish it was Wednesday.

17:42 <Schism> Brain goes "I wish that were assembly," and now I'm imagining you disassembling the dog.  Not in a violent way, just recoding the thing.

17:43 <LibrarianofHope> dogs love everyone

17:44 <Cepheid> My sister comes home on Wednesday.  The dog will leave me alone.

17:45 <LibrarianofHope> umm

17:45 <LibrarianofHope> you can try being firm with the dog that you want to be left alone

17:45 <LibrarianofHope> repeat a bit and they will leave

17:45 <LibrarianofHope> just dont be mean

17:46 <LibrarianofHope> or just let them hang around and dont mind them much

17:49 <Cepheid> Unfortunately, that doesn't work.  The moment I move, or a cat approaches me, the dog gets up and moves towards me, or in between me and the cat.

17:49 <LibrarianofHope> they like you

17:50 <LibrarianofHope> and its very hard for a dog not to like you

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17:50 <LibrarianofHope> would you happen to have dogtv available?

17:51 <LibrarianofHope> in a proper tv would be more ideal

17:53 <Cepheid> Nope.

17:55 <Cepheid> I'd be fine with the dog liking me if she didn't prevent Spitfire or Tizzy from coming near me.  Or, you know, snapping at the cats when they get too close to me when she is near me.

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18:09 * Cepheid wiggles and dances.

18:19 <Nedemai> dooodle~

18:19 <Nedemai> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/560608510929272842/734835548451110962/20200720_141214.jpg

18:19 <Cepheid> Oooh, nicr.

18:20 <Cepheid> Nice*

18:26 <Nedemai> yea, starting to want to art again is nice

18:28 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/ares_emu/status/1284328853171605508?s=19 ...

18:34 <Nedemai> wait so... wait

18:34 <Nedemai> is doom actually using the cores like thaty

18:35 <Nedemai> like... I can imagine how to do that but maaan

18:39 <Nedemai> Sir, we lost a few cores due to the strain, but we are still holding steady sir!

18:39 <Cepheid> I'd argue it's faked, but given what people have gotten the original DOOM to run on....

18:40 <Nedemai> ti-83 graphing calculator doom

18:41 <Cepheid> Basically, if it's real, then it is simply the rendering engine telling a grid of threads to load their respective cores.

18:41 <Nedemai> thats actually... really simple to do

18:42 <Nedemai> and given doom can run on a potato, I imagine a single core would be fine to handle the actual engine

18:58 <Cepheid> More or less.

18:59 <Cepheid> Modern source ports are so well optimized at this point they probably wouldn't even use a visible fraction of the CPU core they would run on.

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19:13 * Ali flops over Starlight_Glimmer

19:14 * Starlight_Glimmer snuggle-tackles Ali

19:15 * Ali squeaks and snuggles upon the Starlight_Glimmer mare

19:41 * LibrarianofHope squeaks at Ali, for varriety

19:45 * Ali flops over LibrarianofHope too

19:59 * LibrarianofHope glomps Ali for the emprah

19:59 * Ali feeds LibrarianofHope to the rippers for that.

20:01 <LibrarianofHope> i have plot armor owo

20:02 <Ali> Like all stupid marines :T

20:02 <LibrarianofHope> i sometime want to make angry marines

20:03 <LibrarianofHope> yellow and red insane meme guys

20:06 <Ali> I thought GW did that with their Blood Angel wannabe's from Dawn of War

20:06 <LibrarianofHope> nope

20:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Dandelion's Pinkie's Pony Palooza Summer 2020 Remixes [ http://tinyurl.com/y29fpcmr ]

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20:31 <Cepheid> Ali, why did society lie about how men shouldn't shave their legs?

20:31 <Ali> I dunno?

20:32 * Ali stands around in her factory of confusion.

20:32 * Cepheid squeaks around the room on smooth legs.

20:34 <Starlight_Glimmer> So StarTrek or GoT? I can't decide.

20:36 <Starlight_Glimmer> I might have another bag of microwave popcorn too!

20:36 <Cepheid> I'd say Star Trek.

20:36 * Starlight_Glimmer searches through random drawers.

20:36 <Starlight_Glimmer> But I've already seen StarTrek!

20:36 <Starlight_Glimmer> That's what makes the decision hard

20:37 <Starlight_Glimmer> I've not seen GoT yet, minus parts of an episode here or there.

20:39 <LibrarianofHope> not worth the effort owo

20:41 * Starlight_Glimmer sits on LibrarianofHope. "I've bought a bottle of a drink literally called 'Mexican' (well 'Mexikaner') today."

20:41 <LibrarianofHope> tequila?

20:43 <Starlight_Glimmer> Tomato juice, chili, and some spirit.

20:44 <Starlight_Glimmer> Not really sure whether it's korn, vodka or tequila.

20:50 * Lumindia boops GlimGlam

20:50 <Lumindia> o vo

20:51 <Schism> That's... pretty close to a Caesar.

20:52 * Schism flops in over lunch.

20:59 * Starlight_Glimmer feeds popcorn to Lumindia

21:00 <Starlight_Glimmer> Sweet popcorn of course because salty is just wrong :P

21:01 * Ali pours butter all over Starlight_Glimmer~

21:02 <Starlight_Glimmer> See I wonder how much of a difference that makes because I don't think you get this anywhere around here.

21:02 <Ali> what? buttered popcorn?

21:03 * Cepheid adds some salt from Schism's workplace to the popcorn.

21:04 <Starlight_Glimmer> Well it's made with fat of course but you don't pour it over

21:05 <Schism> I'm not sure what kind of popcorn you've been eating, then.

21:05 <Starlight_Glimmer> Fresh caramel or chocolate is like also not a thing. I've seen it ready to eat in supermarkets, but I'm not a fan of ready to eat popcorn, so I never bothered.

21:06 <Starlight_Glimmer> Just sweet popcorn.

21:08 <Starlight_Glimmer> Again: it's made with fat ( I hesitate to call or butter, might be the real thing, but I have doubts. Plant based fat is cheaper). You can taste it, but you don't pour butter over it after the corn popped.

21:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3407 [ http://tinyurl.com/y6kgfo9m ]

21:09 <Starlight_Glimmer> The microwave bag sadly doesn't list ingredients and I've thrown out the outer package long ago

21:11 <Starlight_Glimmer> Yeah at least the microwave stuff is of course made with plant based oils.

21:12 <Starlight_Glimmer> Gotta squeeze every last penny out of it.

21:13 <Starlight_Glimmer> Half my body must be made of palm oil by now :(

21:15 <Starlight_Glimmer> If I was living in the U.S. the other half would be corn syrup :P

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21:18 <Cepheid> No, that would be Canada.  We use a lot more corn syrup up here.

21:20 <Schism> Cepheid, we absolutely do not use more HFCS than the United States.

21:21 <Cepheid> Could have sworn that relative to population, we did.

21:21 <Starlight_Glimmer> Yeah isn't the joke that it's so highly subsidized they just put it into everything? :P

21:22 <Starlight_Glimmer> The U.S. is quite famous for it. I mean because of trade etc. you probaby get lots of it too, but I doubt more than at the source.

21:23 * Starlight_Glimmer licks Ali. "Yeees! Sweet rural corn!"

21:24 <Ali> While I am considered out in the boondocks, its not really THAT boondockish

21:25 <Starlight_Glimmer> So not like fly-over country? :3

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21:28 * Ali crosses hooves and pouts. "You're hurting me Starlight_Glimmer, fly over country..."

21:30 * Starlight_Glimmer glomps Ali

21:31 * Ali squeaks and splats under Starlight_Glimmer

21:32 <Starlight_Glimmer> I mean there are certainly benefits to living in like Montana. See I meet lots of people every day here in Brunswick and I'm not sure I'm a huge fan.

21:33 <Starlight_Glimmer> Real estate prices are insane around here.

21:33 <Ali> Not really that far into fly over, but still fly overs

21:34 <Starlight_Glimmer> Noise from the street I'm living next to is a bit of a nightmare - not the good kind.

21:35 <Starlight_Glimmer> Can't open the windows at night because I'd literally fall out of bed. The windows have special sound proofing though, so closed it's not a problem.

21:35 * Ali licks Starlight_Glimmer

21:37 <Starlight_Glimmer> If you ever feel like visiting you're welcome. I have a big couch where even 2 people could easily sleep on, not that I wouldn't just pull you to my bed anyways :3

21:37 <Ali> I'm...not fond of flying..

21:39 * Starlight_Glimmer visits usps.com and prints an ocean freight label.

21:39 * Ali finds that even worse

21:43 <Starlight_Glimmer> I think the teleportation range isn't quite there yet.

21:46 <Nedemai> more doodles

21:46 <Nedemai> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/560608510929272842/734888592756834394/doodle2.png

21:51 * Cepheid flopos about.

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22:04 <Cepheid> Seems the younger generation doesn't get the message.  Sudden uptick in new cases over the last few days.

22:11 <LibrarianofHope> yes

22:11 <LibrarianofHope> wut?

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22:12 <LibrarianofHope> sending ali via usps?

22:12 <LibrarianofHope> unacceptable

22:12 <LibrarianofHope> least use dhl or usps

22:12 <LibrarianofHope> i mean ups

22:12 <Nedemai> ... uhh

22:12 <LibrarianofHope> the good ones

22:13 <Nedemai> lol

22:13 <LibrarianofHope> i sell knick knacks, so i can say with certainty DHL is fast and good

22:14 <Nedemai> DHL is a solid company, I've never had issues with them

22:14 <Nedemai> fedex and purlator have both pissed me off in the past

22:14 <Cepheid> Hulloooo kitty.

22:17 <LibrarianofHope> hello ma baby, hello ma honey, hello my ragtime gal!

22:21 * Filly_Nightmares chews on Cepheid

22:22 * Cepheid chews back.

22:22 <LibrarianofHope> eeeee!

22:22 <LibrarianofHope> havent seen you since dubai!

22:22 <LibrarianofHope> how did you get out?

22:24 <Cepheid> ...  Two women got into a fight.  Over the haircut of a cat.

22:25 <Cepheid> Why is this pandemic bringing out the crazy in people?

22:26 <LibrarianofHope> i was already crazy

22:26 <LibrarianofHope> and ali has maintained a constant level of high cuteness

22:31 <Cepheid> And I'm losing it.

22:37 <Cepheid> I understand my sister's disturbing fascination with my bald head now.

22:45 <Nedemai> no one is used to being alone with their own thoughts. We are so used to distractions who needs to actually work on themselves when we've got literally anything else to pacify

22:45 <Cepheid> Some of us seem to handle being alone with our brains better than others, yes.

22:45 <Nedemai> at least, thats what I think is going on

22:46 <Nedemai> some of us didn't like being around people to start

22:46 <LibrarianofHope> i get anxiety if overly distracted

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23:28 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Comics: Hardness / MacXSugar / Age Inappropriate #19 / What About the Future #25 / Storms #109 / Running Reward / Hollowshades #148   [ http://tinyurl.com/y6o9kqtu ]

23:38 * Cepheid blorbs about.

23:50 * LibrarianofHope blorbs in the roof

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