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00:04 <Alice> That's fine. Was just checking up on your progress.
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00:26 <Lumindia> oh hey, 11'8" has started uploading again
00:26 <Lumindia> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZ766MY_Cog
00:26 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
00:26 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Reefer truck breaks the spell at the 11foot8+8 bridge
00:26 <Lumindia> this channel brings me great joy
00:36 <Ali> And to think
00:36 <Ali> Its eaten three trucks in a week
00:36 <Ali> And there's a overheight detector
00:36 <Ali> That turns the stupid light red if it detects overheight and they still plow into it.
00:37 <Lumindia> this is why it brings me great joy.
00:38 <Ali> They even RAISED the bridge
00:38 <Ali> And people still plow into it
00:38 <Lumindia> "We'll just bring taller trucks
00:39 <Lumindia> again, it brings me great joy, especially because they're probably having to pay a lot of money for damages to whatever vehicle they were driving
00:39 <Ali> Especially when it can openers them
00:40 <Lumindia> that's the most satisfying one
00:40 <Lumindia> when the top of the truck gets sliced right off
00:42 <Lumindia> Gyahahaha
00:42 <Ali> Like how stupid do you have to be to not read the warning sign
00:42 <Lumindia> just saw the one where the camper gets the A/C unit knocked clean off
00:42 <Ali> Yeah just rips them clean off
00:42 <Lumindia> like, the camper itself wasn't even overheight apart from the AC unit
00:43 <Lumindia> I mean, my inner seven year old is like 'haha, truck go smash'
00:43 <Ali> I love the ones where they just get stuck under it
00:43 <Ali> Doesn't need to be a full peel, just enough that they get stuck
00:44 <Lumindia> eh, if they just scrape under and get stuck, that's not funny
00:44 <Lumindia> stuff needs to actually break
00:44 <Lumindia> but again, that's probably just my inner destructive seven-year-old talking.
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02:34 * Alice blaghs. Was woken up by sudden need to be horribly sick.
02:36 * Dappled offers blanket.
02:36 <Dappled> Also waves from almost house fire.
02:40 <Dappled> Decided to cook an oven mitt on the stove.
02:40 * Ali curls up into the Dappled pono
02:42 <Alice> Oof.
02:43 * Alice takes some gravol.
02:52 <Alice> Hum. KAGEWANI. Six episodes into the first season, and I think I already figured it out. There's a common theme among all of the monsters in it.
02:56 <Alice> And literally the next episode proves my theory wrong.
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03:05 <Alice> Though, just because the common theme element isn't correct, doesn't mean I'm wrong. There's another theme I'm seeing here.
03:23 * Schism flops in. "Gah. Work was all right, but now I am le cold.
03:26 <Alice> "You would believe a silly story like this?" "Ma'am, if you saw half the shit I have, you'd believe aliens came here to simply shove probes up our butts."
03:34 <Alice> I'm gonna be honest, but that's an interesting concept for a monster. Shadow Crocodile. It's a creature that crawls along surface. Looks like a shadow with no source. As it approaches prey, it opens it's mouth like a crocodile. It targets the shadows of living things. If it chomps or bites down on the shadow of a living thing, the living object takees identical damage.
03:34 <Alice> Thus, if it bites off the part of the shadow projected by the head of a creature, it eats that creature's head as a result.
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03:36 * Alice has already taken some gravol.
03:38 <Alice> ... Oh, huh. The name of the show translates to "Shadow Crocodile"
03:38 <Alice> Kage - Shadow, Wani - Crocodile.
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03:40 <Alice> ... This is now the second time I've heard of this thing called kodoku.
03:41 <Schism> Oh right, gravol, not gravitol. In my defense, I've had a long week.
03:42 <Alice> That's understandable.
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03:44 <Alice> Kodoku. A form of poisoning magic in which you take a vessel and seal a variety of insects in it. You let them consume one another, and in the end, the remaining insect is used to perform various different things, up to and including straight-up poisoning.
03:45 <Schism> That's not entirely Japanese in origin. A similar poison jar is seen throughout Eastern mythos.
03:45 <Schism> Said poison jar was recently the subject of a plotline in The Gamer.
03:46 <Alice> Mmm.
03:47 <Alice> Yes. Let's store a bunch of creatures mutated by consuming the remains of a horrible creature all in the same place, and then use genetic reconstruction to create a clone that's nearly 100% identical to the original. Surely nothing will go wrong with this plan.
03:48 <Alice> Have these people ever watched TV? Watched movies? Played the Biohazard games?
03:50 * Dappled would never play a biohazard game. The best games are Resident Evil. ;P
03:51 <Alice> Stop being a smartass. :P
03:52 <Dappled> Never!
03:52 * Dappled ponders booting up 7... But would not get far cause he's a scared pony and unlike remakes of 2 and 3, 7 is actually scary
03:54 <Alice> Mmm.
03:54 <Alice> I'm wondering how 8 will fare.
03:55 * Dappled doesn't have high hopes for it. History has shown that they'll over complicate it immediately after making a good one. See 4-5
03:55 <Alice> <Me> "Where's the patient?" <Doctor> "In the surgery room next to me." <Me> "RUN."
03:55 <Alice> 4 was good.
03:56 <Alice> If anything, many consider it to be one of the better, if not the best game, of the series.
03:56 <Dappled> Right. 4 was good, 5 less so.
03:56 <Dappled> So 7 is good, 8 probably less so.
03:57 <Alice> Hard to say.
03:58 <Alice> Honestly, if I was a member of a security team meant to deal with a creature that basically kills by consuming shadows of people, I'd be carrying around a special lighting system to ensure that my body does not cast any sort of long shadow that it can reach.
03:59 <Schism> Best defense against the Vashda Nerada, until they manage to somehow sneak into one of the shadows when the system surreptitiously cuts out.
04:00 <Alice> Give me a strong omnidirectional light source to carry above my head, powered by a battery system.
04:04 <Dappled> I mean, the light helped you keep track of them, but it didn't stop the Vashda Nerada. Cause otherwise how did they cast extra shadows?
04:07 <Alice> I really need to get caught up on Doctor Who.
04:07 <Schism> Silence in the Library was one of the better horror episodes.
04:07 <Alice> Agreed.
04:10 <Schism> Had you ever seen "Midnight"? I suspect you have.
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04:11 <Dappled> And that's how scary Midnight is. Just run right away.
04:12 <Schism> What makes it scarier is that... well. He can't run.
04:12 <Dappled> Yeah. Cause the monster is always scarier if you can't see it and Midnight did that.
04:12 <Schism> More than that. He couldn't run.
04:13 <Dappled> Woo bottle episode.
04:16 <Schism> Hmm. Shaders give some odd results on character models.
04:16 * Schism continues to hiccup.
04:31 <Alice> I... just came up with a horrible, mean idea for a joke to play on my dad for halloween.
04:32 <Alice> Basic gist of it is that, the night before, me and my mother make a bunch of notes, and creepy, ominous messages for my dad, and leave them around the house. When my dad sees them, we act as though he's just seeing things.
04:32 <Alice> Why would I even think of being this cruel to my dad?
04:33 <ADragonDreaming> Taht's your basic gaslighting technique.
04:33 <Alice> Yeah, and that's why I consider it a horrible and mean idea.
04:34 <ADragonDreaming> It is!
04:34 * Alice consumes Buckleys Cough Syrup.
04:34 <ADragonDreaming> The ideation, of course, is one thing, and wholly different from actual follow through.
04:35 <Alice> Mmhmm.
04:35 <Alice> It just distresses me though when things like this enter my brain. o3o
04:35 <ADragonDreaming> Understandable
04:39 <Schism> Urgh. Hiccup solution was... not great.
04:43 * Dappled suggests woopie cushions. No one would ever expect one.
04:43 <Alice> For me, the usual solution is just to drink water.
04:43 <Alice> Or any liquid, really.
04:49 <Alice> Blah. Every 5-10 minutes, I suffer a cold sweat, combined with nausea. I wonder if i have the flu.
05:10 * Ali grabs the Dappled
05:11 * Dappled is grabbed!
05:22 * Ali needs a snugglepono, Dappled is that pono.
05:22 * Dappled totally is! Snuggles and shares ranch wheat things.
05:22 <Dappled> thins
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05:35 <Schism> Sigh. I *suppoooose* I can join MSQ as a tank for once.
05:35 <Dappled> Healer for life.
05:36 <Dappled> In related news. I'm still overly salty about the death of the party trinity in most MMOs.
05:36 * Dappled wants to play a real healer, not a dps that can sort of heal.
05:36 <Schism> Dappled: Mm. Well, all classes have to do all the things, yanno.
05:37 <Dappled> No, no they don't.
05:37 * Schism bypasses the queue via tank anyway. For today.
05:37 <Dappled> MMOs need to stop catering to solo players and make people work together.
05:37 <Schism> I don't have it in me to argue, really.
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05:37 <Dappled> It's cause I'm right.
05:38 * Dappled accepts no evidence against his point of view.
05:38 <ADragonDreaming> I disagree
05:38 <ADragonDreaming> But then I dislike MMOs as a genre, period.
05:38 * Dappled overly dramatic gasp.
05:39 <RazorSharpFang> I like MMOs' market-systems if they're done well. Where you have a set of items that are desired, and then an automated repeated auction for it with a bid-ask spread similar to stock exchanges.
05:40 * Dappled never gets far enough into mmos to deal with market systems.
05:40 <RazorSharpFang> I just like markets in general, both physical markets like supermarkets, deli-stores, as well as stock-exchanges, MMO Auction-houses etc.
05:41 * Dappled played Recettear, does that count?
05:42 <RazorSharpFang> I haven't heard of that one.
05:43 <ADragonDreaming> Recettear is a cute little game about a young girl learning the ropes of ruthless retail capitalism to pay an enormous debt.
05:43 <Dappled> Recettear is a game where your deadbeat father leaves you and the loanshark doesn't want to break your legs so you have to run a fantasy item shop to pay off your family debts.
05:43 <RazorSharpFang> That's interesting. In the west, it's illegal to force relatives to pay debts that do not belong to them.
05:43 <ADragonDreaming> You get to bankroll and supply adventurers to go dungeon-crawling for special things to sell.
05:44 <Dappled> Well your house in your father's name, so if you don't pay the debt, your homeless.
05:44 <ADragonDreaming> Razor: that's not entirely accurate, either.
05:44 * Dappled put more hours into recettear than skyrim.
05:45 <RazorSharpFang> Is there a western jurisdiction that passes on debts to the relatives of the debtor?
05:45 <Dappled> Inheritance can have a lot to do with paying debts.
05:45 <RazorSharpFang> Dappled, that makes sense, at least.
05:46 <ADragonDreaming> From what I'm finding there are some US of A states that do have laws on the books that make adult children responsible for medical debt of parents.
05:46 <RazorSharpFang> ADragonDreaming, even if those debts are in the name of the parents and not the children AND the children did NOT sign a guarantor?
05:46 <RazorSharpFang> Right, but if after everything is liquidated there's still debts left, those debts cannot legally be attributed to the descendants.
05:47 <ADragonDreaming> https://money.cnn.com/2014/06/19/pf/inherited-debt-adult-children/
05:47 <ADragonDreaming> this is what I found.
05:47 <RazorSharpFang> `But if there is money or other assets, they must be used to pay the debt before anything is distributed to heirs.` is key.
05:47 <ADragonDreaming> 'Close to 30 states have what's known as "filial responsibility" statutes. Those require adult children to pay for a deceased parent's unpaid medical debts, such as those to hospitals or nursing homes, when the estate cannot. '
05:47 <RazorSharpFang> This is about distributions prior to inheritance.
05:47 <RazorSharpFang> Which is exactly what I said.
05:48 <Schism> Stupid MSQ roulette.
05:48 <RazorSharpFang> `The state may not, however, ask you to use your own funds to pay the bill. Nor is the state allowed to pursue payments during the lifetime of a surviving spouse.`
05:48 <ADragonDreaming> the paragraph I quoted comes after all of them.
05:49 <ADragonDreaming> *that
05:50 <RazorSharpFang> Ah yes, state statues. Are those constitutional?
05:50 <Dappled> But debt collection agencies will hound you forever trying to get you to pay it. Cause if they can get you to pay anything you are now responisble for that debt.
05:50 <RazorSharpFang> ... The link on that reference goes to a 404
05:50 <RazorSharpFang> Dappled, yeah, it's unfortunate that debt collection agencies oft flout the law. That's very bad.
05:50 <ADragonDreaming> this is true, but I then looked up "Filial responsibility" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filial_responsibility_laws
05:52 <RazorSharpFang> These laws are abhorrent . How can these state legislatures sign these and sleep at night?
05:52 <ADragonDreaming> By them being old laws from before anyone currently living was alive. The real question is, why did Pennsylvania enforce it?
05:53 <RazorSharpFang> Too many state legislatures just get in power and stay in power because of the party they belong to - they do very little to care for the people under their jurisdiction.
05:54 <RazorSharpFang> Quite a few long-standing problems are directly the fault of the states' and within the state's power to change, and yet they do nothing.
05:54 <ADragonDreaming> Also, I can see the intention behind it - the idea is to ensure that children don't simply abandon their parents while having the means to care for them. I believe at the time of writing medical care in the US didn't have the outrageous price tags it has now, either.
05:54 <RazorSharpFang> The NYPD has had a police-problem for the longest time and they did nothing.
05:54 <ADragonDreaming> given how things have changed, however...
05:55 <ADragonDreaming> All of this would be easily solved by single-payer healthcare.
05:55 <RazorSharpFang> Again, they have become lax and wilfully blind to the people's plight.
05:55 <ADragonDreaming> Indeed.
05:55 <RazorSharpFang> But they will get into power again and again all because the have a [D] or an [R] next to their name. Sad!
05:56 <ADragonDreaming> oof.
05:56 <ADragonDreaming> That type of sentence construction has bad connotations these days
05:56 <ADragonDreaming> Specifically the single word "Sad!" at the end
05:56 * Dappled grumbles. That's twice in under 5 minutes he saw a golden slime and couldn't do anything about it.
05:57 <RazorSharpFang> Uh... Oh, well excuse me for being sad about people's problems? Not sure I understand.
05:57 <Alice> Trump's rhetoric often involves "Sad!" when insulting other individuals.
05:57 <ADragonDreaming> ^ this
05:57 <RazorSharpFang> Ah. I've not been paying attention to his tweets these days.
05:58 * Alice sets alarm to wake self up at 10 AM, even if they get less than 6 hours of sleep.
05:59 <RazorSharpFang> Ooh, will you regret that later, or will you power through?
05:59 <ADragonDreaming> Yes.
06:01 <Alice> Probably power through just fine.
06:01 <Alice> I have to do it anyways.
06:01 <Alice> Been sleeping in later and later because I keep napping or falling asleep for short periods during the day, 'cause sick, gravol, and sleep aides.
06:02 <RazorSharpFang> Hope you get yourself to a better place.
06:02 <RazorSharpFang> Sleep well.
06:03 <Alice> I appear to be getting better. The nausea isn't as constant as it was as over the last few days. Nor as strong.
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06:05 <Alice> Which probably means that getting tested on Monday for C19 again is PROBABLY a waste of time and resources.
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06:08 <Schism> Honestly, viruses don't give a crap how you feel. Get tested anyway. It's not a waste.
06:08 <RazorSharpFang> More data is always good.
06:10 <Alice> I'm gonna be honest, if I've contracted COVID-19, I'm going to have a lot of questions.
06:10 <Alice> And not in the sense of "What now?"
06:11 <RazorSharpFang> "How tho?"
06:11 <Alice> More in the sense of "How did this happen at all? I don't go anywhere. I have barely left this house for anything in the last 10 months."
06:11 <Alice> My parents are the only potential vectors.
06:12 <RazorSharpFang> It's spreading through the water supply
06:13 <Alice> https://www.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/j4p6r9/worse_than_impostor/
06:16 <RazorSharpFang> In factorio, I've gotten rid of the nuclear facility - 1.5 GW just isn't that much anymore.
06:16 <Alice> https://www.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/j4p6r9/worse_than_impostor/
06:17 <RazorSharpFang> Didn't you just post that?
06:17 <Alice> ...
06:17 <Alice> Dangit, Firefox.
06:17 <Alice> https://i.redd.it/qkb8l8dmwzq51.jpg
06:17 <RazorSharpFang> That's two cats isn't it
06:18 <Alice> Yes/
06:18 <Alice> White cat, black cat.
06:18 <Schism> Really bad on the eyes, though.
06:19 <Alice> Probably because the camera in question decided to focus on the cat.
06:21 <Schism> Uerhg. Just realized, I'm going to have to call my endo on Monday and let her know-- okay, not Thanksgiving -- that I need further blood tests before I can see her.
06:22 <Schism> And I'm at the tail end of the shift bid. Hopefully I get something viable.
06:24 <Schism> Because like hell am I going to request adjustment before she gets my baseline T levels.
06:25 * Schism sighs, and just flops into bed for now.
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06:36 <Alice> https://imgur.com/gallery/HtbnuOv
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06:39 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
06:40 <RazorSharpFang> Hey heys
06:51 <Alice> Hey.
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07:22 <ConfusionRift> Hmm, Foundations got interesting. Unfortunately... some won't keep themselves chilled till I play some Crash. So, on pause for now.
07:23 <ConfusionRift> Alice: The enemies in Foundations are at level 8, so I suppose they expect the player to be really ready for AWE.
07:24 <ConfusionRift> Which explains the level 9 spike. Haven't checked though. Then again, almost have every ability.
07:25 <Alice> In the case of the level 9 spike, it was one enemy. The rest were 7.
07:25 <ConfusionRift> Aah.
07:25 <Alice> It was a boss-type situation as well.
07:25 <Alice> So it made sense in the context.
07:25 <ConfusionRift> That makes sense.
07:25 <Alice> That said, if Foundation is level 8, that means it should be done after AWE.
07:26 <Alice> Which seems weird, given Foundation came before AWE. But then, AWE can be started earlier, looks like.
07:26 <ConfusionRift> There's an enemy in [redacted], while you're dealing with [redacted] that's level 10. But you really don't have to deal with it.
07:27 <Alice> Heh.
07:27 <Alice> I'll have to check out the rest of the content over the next week.
07:29 <ConfusionRift> In this case, it's more about the Oldest House, The Board, and what happened to a specific character who lost their life trying to stop... something.
07:30 <ConfusionRift> The House sprung a leak. :P
07:31 <ConfusionRift> Also, can someone explain to me how an update takes longer to install than to download?
07:32 <Alice> Decryption of update data. Decompression of archive files, adding/removing files, then recompressing.
07:32 <ConfusionRift> Aaaand point taken.
07:32 <ConfusionRift> Especially if the update is in relation to the core game.
07:34 <Alice> Ideally, you use an archival format that allows for easy adding/removal of files, but that usually has a performance tradeoff. So most archive formats are more akin to tape archives, and require decompressing *ALL* the resources just to add, remove, or change a file.
07:46 <ConfusionRift> Right. hence the "decompressing files" and "deleting update files".
08:20 <ConfusionRift> 2 hours and a half... still updating.
08:31 <ConfusionRift> Finally!
08:59 * Dappled explains that he is a horse.
09:00 * ConfusionRift thinks he might be a bit suspicious. "Hmm, are you now?" :P
09:00 * Dappled is! Look he has hooves and every thing.
09:21 <ConfusionRift> Hmmmmmmm...
09:22 * Dappled grazes.
09:24 * ConfusionRift patpats Dappled. "Just kidding." :P
09:24 * Ali grazes very gently on Dappled ear
09:24 * Dappled earflaps and nods.
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10:12 <ConfusionRift> This... hmm... this is gonna give me a headache at some point.
10:22 <Finwe> Good afternoon, my little ponies.
10:23 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)
10:24 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift, Capt Koopz.
10:24 <Finwe> o7
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11:01 <ConfusionRift> Sleepy tiiime.
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11:28 * Lumindia feeds pancakes to everypony
11:28 <Lumindia> o wo
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14:24 * Finwe noms on Heartbreak's tail.
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15:25 * Schism awakens. Provides Finwe with chili con carne.
15:30 <Alice> Twitter bans wishing death of a certain giant rotting pumpkin. Talk about double standards.
15:31 <Alice> So, what about gamedevs? What about women in various positions? What about etc, etc, etc, etc.
15:32 <Schism> Oh, but didn't you read the announcement? Twitter staff says that it's a matter of wishing death on anybody! Which I'm sure they will apply in an entirely even-handed and responsible manner.
15:34 <Alice> Yeeeeah, no.
15:34 <Alice> They're known to be biased.
15:34 <Schism> What no surely not.
15:34 <Alice> And on top of that, why only NOW?
15:35 <Alice> What changed?
15:36 * Alice wishes for death of something on Twitter.
15:36 <Schism> The munchkins started up the band.
15:37 <Schism> In deference to the latest Twitter policy, I can only sincerely hope that the President of the United States is out of the hospital soon.
15:37 <Alice> Oh?
15:40 <Schism> Yes. Out of the hospital for good.
15:40 <Schism> (Because of course he's the healthiest human being alive.)
15:40 <Starlight_Glimmer> !mail Ali A pancake with apple slices
15:40 <DerpyBot> Thank you for using the Derpy Mail Service 6_9
15:40 * Schism passes Starlight_Glimmer a pancake with strawberries!
15:40 <Starlight_Glimmer> Wait people do that?
15:41 <Schism> What, put strawberry jam (with actual strawberries) on a pancake?
15:41 <Schism> Sure. It's just a bread. Also good: vanilla ice cream and other berries.
15:41 <Starlight_Glimmer> Oh well starwberry jam. That makes more sense.
15:41 <Starlight_Glimmer> Yeah I sometimes do ice crea myself.
15:42 <Starlight_Glimmer> But I thought you meant like whole strawberries. That'd be odd.
15:42 <Alice> No, we sometimes do that as well.
15:42 <Schism> Well, not *whole*, they'd be sliced, but just regular strawberries and whipped cream is good too.
15:42 <Alice> Though, you usually slice them up.
15:43 * Schism passes Alice a strawberry pie, made from delicious berries found on Mt. Celeste.
15:43 <Starlight_Glimmer> So do you bake the slices with the pancake?
15:43 <Starlight_Glimmer> Because that's what I do with apples.
15:43 <Alice> No.
15:43 <Schism> Well, no, we usually fry pancakes for one thing.
15:44 <Alice> They're put on top of the pancake like a topping.
15:44 <Schism> Though it _could_ work with the strawberries embedded in the pancake, certainly. Or the apples.
15:44 <Alice> What about this is so hard to grasp? It's strawberries with pancakes.
15:44 <Starlight_Glimmer> I meant frying
15:44 <Starlight_Glimmer> It's a pancake after all
15:44 <Schism> There are baked pancakes out there.
15:45 <Schism> I would normally fry the apples alongside and top the pancakes with them. Or fry up some peaches and use those instead, caramelizing them a little.
15:45 <Starlight_Glimmer> But at least here you can still call the process baking I think.
15:46 <Schism> Hm. I wonder if peaches are cheap right now. Probably not.
15:48 * Alice sees a weird, wobbly space in X4. Approaches it at high speeds. Finds herself in Xenon space. "... ****."
15:48 <Schism> Why would you fly into a wormhole.
15:48 <Schism> Song of the week: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCQGQ5qBQTA
15:49 <Alice> Less a wormhole, more an anomaly. Anomalies are one-way gates that transport you to distant sectors.
15:49 <Alice> Long story short, don't do it.
15:49 <Schism> Indeed. o.o
15:49 <Alice> Not unless you have a good ship.
15:50 <Alice> The Xenon, alongside the Kha'ak are some of the main antagonists of the series.
15:50 <Alice> So, basically, akin to jumping into the middle of a hostile region.
15:51 <Schism> Now to carefully sneak back out.
15:57 * Alice hmms.
16:04 * Alice thinks about how to solve programming problem.
16:06 <Schism> Random Shimmer: https://twitter.com/sozglitch/status/1312751566860902400
16:06 <Schism> For some reason, that character archetype seems to work.
16:07 * Schism passes Alice an Apprehension Engine.
16:08 * Alice isn't sure what to do with this.
16:08 <Schism> Play it! It's a musical instrument. For some definition of music, anyway.
16:12 <Alice> Position, vector. Scale, vector(For scaling along individual axes.) Rotation, quaternion. Shearing, vector. Color, 4-vector. Sprite, unsigned integer. Lotta data just for one sprite.
16:13 <Alice> In fact, due to padding, that'd come out to 64 bytes. Almost too large for a typical cache line these days.
16:13 <Schism> Thankfully, 64 is a nice, round number.
16:14 <Alice> Oh, sure. But the fact that it's so large is a bad thing.
16:14 <Schism> Can you cut some of those down to nibbles?
16:16 <Alice> I can definitely reduce the size of the data through reduced accuracy, but whether it'll result in a performance improvement is questionable.
16:29 <Alice> Bleh. My brain just isn't up to this.
16:34 <Alice> Most fields can be reduced to 16-bits because the accuracy of a 32-bit float is too extreme. Technically, shearing can be implemented through funky rotations, so the vector for any shearing can be removed. Color can also be removed by using set colors in the texture, rather than using generic grayscale textures. 'Sides, that approach allows for interesting patterns and designs.
16:42 <Schism> And stranger manipulations. *remembers weird dyes in pirate RO servers*
16:46 <Alice> That's actually not all that tricky to implement.
16:46 <Alice> It's actually pretty straightforward these days due to shaders.
16:46 <Alice> In any case, I'm overthinking this.
16:47 <Alice> The data's only going to be read once, and a buffer created from it once, per game tick.
16:48 <Alice> If the framerate exceeds the tick rate, it'll just re-use the same buffer, rather than re-process the data to create a buffer.
16:48 <Alice> Unless I want to do interpolation, which presents it's own danged problem anyways.
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16:49 <Alice> No, rather than worrying about the cache, what I should be worrying about is locality.
16:55 <Alice> Combine with a pair of min heaps to help with keeping data as compacted as possible...
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17:05 <Alice> Yeh... Really not into this right now.
17:06 <Schism> Sometimes you just want to vegetate instead.
17:11 <Alice> https://imgur.com/gallery/YQHEh1X
17:14 <Alice> https://imgur.com/gallery/DojITyZ
17:16 <Schism> Welp, suddenly it's the 1950s again.
17:16 <Schism> Not that, something else.
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17:17 *** ChanServ sets mode: +qo Ali Ali
17:17 * Schism provides Ali with some low-spice chili con carne, with naan bread.
17:18 <Schism> "Why does this look like a leaf?" "Oh, it's non-bread."
17:20 <Alice> "It was 3 days, not 72 hours.." "It was 2 days, not 48 hours.."
17:20 * Ali flops over Schism
17:21 <Schism> Alice: Just accept the truth that the Party's word is final, and that you should accept whatever they tell you. We have always been at war with Eastasia.
17:21 <Ali> Luna, would you please stop trying to steal my nail clippers
17:22 <Schism> Maybe she's telling you that you should trim her claws.
17:22 <Alice> Indeed.
17:22 <Alice> That, or she just likes shiny.
17:22 <Ali> This is a cat you can't pick up for two seconds. Like hell she'd sit still long enough for a nail trim.
17:22 <Schism> Or that. o3o
17:22 <Alice> But more likely wants her claws clipped, since normally a cat does not play with them.
17:23 <Alice> https://imgur.com/gallery/YC8gYSU
17:26 <Alice> https://imgur.com/gallery/KhUfcuD
17:28 <Schism> Ennnh. Do I want chili, or do I want clam chowder.
17:28 <Alice> I want some alfredo, myself.
17:29 <Alice> My parents have somehow done the impossible.
17:30 <Schism> This sounds positive.
17:30 <ADragonDreaming> quantum-locked a cat?
17:30 <Alice> See, they feed the cats treats in the morning when they wake up. Well, this morning, Spitfire was asleep somewhere and didn't come up for his treats. So my parents left the treats sitting on top of a couple of boxes sitting on the table.
17:30 <Alice> The treats have been there since SIX AM.
17:30 <Alice> They're still there.
17:30 <ADragonDreaming> I was right!
17:31 <Alice> I just woke up my cat and gave them to him.
17:32 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3479 [ http://tinyurl.com/y4ywgb9v ]
17:36 <Alice> https://twitter.com/pagne275/status/1312347102555455489
17:40 <Alice> Cat, do you mind with respect to doing your little kneading thing?
17:46 <Alice> Right, ye know what? Eff this, I'm going back to bed.
17:47 * Schism passes Alice some chili before she sleeps. It's sure to guarantee good dreams.
17:47 <Alice> Thanks, but no thanks. I just ate a largish fettucini alfredo microwavable dinner.
17:49 <Alice> I'm so groggy right now I can't even comprehend this article on heaps, which is hilarious because the danged things are one of the simpler data structures out there.
17:51 <Alice> I'm not neccesarily hallucinating either, but when I look at code or try to think of solutions, I start to feel like I'm staring through the screen, in a cloudy/foggy daze.
17:52 <Alice> At first, thought maybe it was just me being lazy, but I get the same effect when doing anything entertaining. My brain just doesn't want to do much more than read quietly or sleep.
18:05 <Nedemai> ALI
18:05 <Nedemai> Ali ali ali~
18:05 <Nedemai> :3
18:05 * Ali squeaks at the Nedemai
18:06 <Nedemai> Ali I somehow made drawfriends
18:06 * Nedemai hugs the Ali tight
18:07 * Ali hugs Nedemai tightly back and praises her.
18:10 <Starlight_Glimmer> Ali: You should really give Luna these nail clippers
18:10 * Ali drags Starlight_Glimmer over and snugs her too.
18:19 <Alice> Thanks, cats.
18:20 <Alice> I used to know which of these cables was good and which was bad. Why I haven't thrown out the bad one yet, I don't know. But I used to rely on the teeth marks. Now I can't tell.
18:20 <Alice> Ah, this is the good one.
18:26 * Schism giggles at this. Note, profanity. https://twitter.com/HTHRFLWRS/status/1312537377525522432
18:39 <Schism> Hum. The folks in the WH are releasing a commemorative coin labeled Dewey Defeats Truman.
18:43 <Alice> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRQGOtBVELo
18:43 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
18:43 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Poets of the Fall - My Dark Disquiet (Lyric Video)
18:44 <Alice> Wondering what the genre of this music is. It's technically video game music, as it's used in Control. And the same band also did music for the Alan Wake series.
18:52 <Schism> Ali: https://twitter.com/SixthComma/status/1312824743935041536
18:52 <Schism> If, um, you can see Tweets now.
18:52 <Ali> Links for some reason don't work, but if I direct input them they're fine.
18:53 <Schism> Oh, 'kay. Anyway, it's Rakdos.
18:53 <Ali> Or not
18:53 <Ali> Must be private tweets or something
18:54 * Ali sits and grumps on Schism
18:55 <Schism> Doctor says, "There is an easy cure for boredom! Go see Rakdos. He's performing tonight! 50% chance of death, that should lighten up your life." Patient sobs...
18:56 <Schism> Alice: https://twitter.com/Mad__Machine/status/1312759744147275782
18:56 * Alice decides to change twitter avatar today.
18:57 * Alice also decides to just go back to original nickname for IRC and stuffs. Suits her better for online personality.
18:57 *** Alice is now known as Cepheid
19:00 <Schism> Fair nuff! Names are weird. And preferred names, too. S'why I'm still Schism.
19:00 <Cepheid> Bah. I can't get the icon to work well with Twitter's sizes. Ah well.
19:01 <Schism> Oh. Oh dear. Cephy: https://twitter.com/chillicampari/status/1312704746919165952
19:02 <Cepheid> https://i.imgur.com/JtiGKUe.png This being what it's supposed to look like.
19:02 <Cepheid> I like symmetry.
19:02 <Schism> Looks alright with yours, though certainly the middle star isn't quite right.
19:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Penny Wrights: Equestria Girls: Make Up Shake Up [ http://tinyurl.com/y5cuo66l ]
19:03 <Cepheid> Yeah, that's the problem. The icon gets shrunk down to the point that the start doesn't appear right.
19:04 <Cepheid> Was more of a pain in the ass to make than it should have been for the record.
19:04 <Cepheid> Inkscape is not intuitive, or easy to grasp.
19:05 <Cepheid> I also have a preference for flat colors.
19:06 <Cepheid> I sometimes wonder if I should make a game using that kind of aesthetic instead of worrying about RGBA, smooth gradients, etc.
19:06 <Cepheid> Just create a game utilizing flat-shaded shapes.
19:07 <Cepheid> Especially since you can still pull off some impressive stuff with just flat colors.
19:10 <Cepheid> In a sense, that icon is actually a character design.
19:12 <Cepheid> The star in the center is the true form of Cepheid. The ring is a shell of some sort. The four diamonds are a set of remotely-controlled plasma-based blades that can fly around in any environment.
19:19 * Schism looks at HeroForge. "Oh ... dear. Well, there goes my weekend."
19:20 <Cepheid> Heh.
19:20 <Cepheid> I wonder if I can get a proper design for Cepheid using that.
19:21 <Cepheid> I mean, the star form would probably be better done as a bunch of shaders and simple point sprites and such.
19:21 <ADragonDreaming> what happened with heroforge
19:21 <Cepheid> But the human form, the biggest critical detail is a certain apparatus.
19:21 <Schism> Adra: Well, I'd not seen the site before.
19:21 <ADragonDreaming> ah
19:26 <Cepheid> School, could you please disable that reminder? I'm not going into the campus to renew my bus pass.
19:26 <Cepheid> I get an email every two days about it.
19:27 <Schism> Ahahahahahaha... Call of Duty: Modern Warfare now takes over 250 GB. Yet another reason never to install it.
19:28 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de0D0lMtQFg
19:28 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
19:28 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Among Us but with Anime Finishers
19:28 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGsqRDSCm5c
19:28 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
19:28 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about What if Among Us had Anime Moves? Part 2
19:28 <Cepheid> ... Oh gods, that second video has a FMA version, and it's..
19:32 <Cepheid> ... My brain just randomly came up with something.
19:32 <Cepheid> So, I went to see if I could poke Disgaea 4 PC save files. Unfortunately, the data about the squad, items and such, are encrypted. I know this, because I made two identical save files in two separate slots, and they differed considerably.
19:32 <Cepheid> But there's a core detail that I hadn't considered.
19:34 <Cepheid> The key to decrypt has to be stored somewhere in the save file, unencrypted, or at least itself encrypted using a static, unchanging key. Why? Because otherwise, the data would have been identical except for timestamp.
19:35 <Cepheid> Which likely means the key is PROBABLY the time.
19:36 <Cepheid> But alas, I am now too exhausted to test and check.
19:46 <ADragonDreaming> Idea: play Among Us with name "Impostor"
19:47 <Cepheid> I wonder how long one would last with that.
19:47 <ADragonDreaming> It
19:47 <ADragonDreaming> 's mostly for the slate "Impostor was not An Impostor"
19:48 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRmES6IJk_o
19:48 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about The EDF Songs
19:48 <Cepheid> Heh.
19:49 <Cepheid> It's gotta be hard to write sensible lyrics to music like that.
19:50 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRmES6IJk_o Alas, EDF5's not as depressing and hilarious.
19:50 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about The EDF Songs
19:51 <Cepheid> Bah.
19:51 <Cepheid> Firefox, stop being weird.
19:51 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NYLw857Cnc
19:51 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about EDF 5 Full Song English
19:51 <Cepheid> That's the one.
19:52 <Cepheid> As for the games themselves..
19:52 <Cepheid> Earth Defense Force is basically best described as "B-movie alien invasion simulator"
19:52 <Cepheid> Along with "City destruction simulator" and "Spaceship destruction simulator"
19:54 <Cepheid> The selling point is basically the wide variety of weapons, the enemies, and the destructive potential.
19:54 <Cepheid> Also the b-movie plot and acting.
19:54 <ADragonDreaming> aye
19:55 <Cepheid> Though there were a couple of "darker" games.
19:55 <Cepheid> EDF5 went back to b-movie plot and acting though, from what I can tell.
19:56 <Cepheid> But seriously though, the series is nuts. I finished EDF4.1 a while back. The final mission was utter madness.
19:57 <Cepheid> It was endless chaos as you fought off a mothership. It would unleash flying enemies to start with, then add in laser defense systems, followed by bombs, then the main cannon, followed by more laser defense systems.
19:57 <Cepheid> Eventually, it just gets to a point where you legitimately have to start taking cover just to get a chance to attack the ship.
20:11 * Cepheid hums. Does a quick sketchup for a design for a vector art file format to use in a game.
20:11 <Schism> Mmm. Taco nail polish.
20:14 <Schism> I wonder if Konami's ever tried to sue anyone for including Dracula in their works.
20:16 <Cepheid> Their particular incarnation of him, perhaps. But I don't think the courts would uphold it.
20:21 <Schism> Yeah, but I'd not be surprised if they'd try to copyright-troll anyone.
20:22 <ADragonDreaming> The Doyle estate certainly tries
20:22 * Schism reads a bit of Edgar Allen Poe, "The Masque of the Red Death".
20:23 <Schism> "When his dominions were half depopulated, he summoned to his presence a thousand hale and light-hearted friends from among the knights and dames of his court, and with these retired to the deep seclusion of one of his castellated abbeys."
20:33 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWOL5Z-abOA dancing to electroswing is eactly as I envisioned it.
20:33 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
20:33 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Top 10 - Best Electro Swing Dancers That Are 'Lost in the Rhythm - Jamie Berry' #neoswing
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20:45 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M5n3KCd9yo
20:45 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
20:45 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Earth Defense Force 4.1: When You Get the Music Just Right
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20:47 <Schism> Cepheid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48sCx-wBs34 - Veritasium is great.
20:48 <Cepheid> This is the later stages of an EDF game.
20:51 <Cepheid> Hum, EDF5 is on sale for PC for 50% off.
20:54 <Ali> I kinda want a space game but I wouldn't know what.
20:55 <Schism> Gratuitous Space Battles?
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20:58 <Ali> That's only fleet fights, doesn't seem to be anything else other than putting Fleet A vs FLeet B
20:59 <Schism> And watching the explosions, s'true.
20:59 <Schism> Snrk. This is a nice take-off of the X-Files. http://www.shaenon.com/monsteroftheweek/
21:01 * Schism passes Cepheid a strawberry-vanilla cone.
21:02 <Starlight_Glimmer> Ali: Alien Isolation? :3
21:02 * Ali nibbles on Starlight_Glimmer ear
21:03 * Starlight_Glimmer give Luna Ali's nail clippers before vanishing under the blankets for the night
21:04 <Starlight_Glimmer> s*
21:06 <Schism> I've heard things about Rebel Galaxy.
21:06 <ADragonDreaming> Rebel Galaxy is pretty cool, but be aware that it's "Space as an ocean"
21:07 <Schism> Not full 3D like Elite, yea.
21:07 <ADragonDreaming> I also pretty much did all the interesting things within <30 hours of playtime.
21:07 <ADragonDreaming> At least all the things that were interesting to me.
21:08 <Schism> 30 hours is still a pretty nice chunk.
21:08 <ADragonDreaming> Aye! It was fun, too.
21:16 * Schism randomly listens to 514.
21:22 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Starlight Music: RedSpark - Starlight's Revenge [Electro] [ http://tinyurl.com/y3f9a2an ]
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21:32 <PinkieShy> Heey :D
21:39 <Schism> Here, have some evil. https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/puzzles/js/untangle.html
21:40 * PinkieShy sips on his deer park spring water
22:04 * Schism considers starting over in Elite Dangerous. "Just because... well, I left the newbie zone before I was completely prepared, that's why."
22:08 <Schism> Doing the tutorial all through and actually learning how to play will be of some benefit.
22:09 * Schism also plugs in her controller, because that would be useful.
22:10 <ADragonDreaming> tip: fill your quest log with all the highest-paying quests you can before you leave the newbie zone. when you leave the newbie zone, you'll automatically get the payout.
22:15 <Schism> That IS the goal.
22:22 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Fanfiction (Souted): Daring Do and the Tunnels of Terror [ http://tinyurl.com/yycv3dcx ]
22:42 <Schism> Much as I like the Blue Danube, it does get old.
22:42 <ADragonDreaming> That's a failing of the game. They have a playlist function on the right-hand panel
22:42 <ADragonDreaming> but you can't load up actual music
22:42 <ADragonDreaming> so, like ... why does that exist?
22:44 * Schism shrugs. Also, picks the regular Sidewinder, rather than the planetary one. Though the latter is tempting...
22:44 <Schism> I can pick up another sometime soon. o3o;
22:46 <ADragonDreaming> The what?
22:47 <ADragonDreaming> Is Sidewinder a ship type?
22:47 <ADragonDreaming> I kind of skipped over all ships in between the starting one and the Cobra MKIII
22:49 <Schism> That is the starting ship, yes.
22:52 * Schism gets started by carting some fish over to Dromi.
22:55 <Schism> The Cobra III is of course the ship of choice for the newbie pilot. o3o
22:56 <ADragonDreaming> Aye. It's what I've stuck with as well, but I also saw the overall course of the game and thought "This feels more like a job."
22:56 <Schism> Fair enough. I find it somewhat relaxing!
22:57 <ADragonDreaming> Aye! I begrudge no one their enjoyment of it.
23:04 <Schism> Sell fish. See mission: "Source and return fish." Go 'graaah'.
23:07 <Ali> And what game is this?
23:07 <Schism> Elite Dangerous.
23:08 <Ali> MMO, not a chance
23:08 <Finwe> Good evening, my perissodactyls of minute stature.
23:09 <ADragonDreaming> It's a little different than a full MMO, to be fair
23:10 <Schism> Not as MMOish as you might think, Ali. Most of it is singleplayer-ish. The MMO aspects -are- somewhat there, in that the galaxy changes depending on what players do.
23:10 <ADragonDreaming> There's a singleplayer mode, in which other players do not appear, and there's private group sessions, in which only the members of said session will appear.
23:10 <ADragonDreaming> And the open online mode in which, yes, it's MMO. It is, however, a whole galaxy sized thing.
23:16 * Finwe boops Schism with a köttpirog.
23:22 * Schism applies mustard thereto.
23:22 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Pinkie Pie Day on October 7th! - Halfway Reminder! [ http://tinyurl.com/yyysln4q ]
23:26 <Schism> Ah, so Sharur is found through Tarnkappe and Tyet. Okay then.
23:27 <ADragonDreaming> galaxy map lets you plan a route.
23:27 <Schism> Aye, takes a bit to figure out at first though.
23:37 <Schism> Docking request denied? @_@
23:37 <ADragonDreaming> were you within 7.5 km?
23:37 <ADragonDreaming> if not, it gets denied.
23:37 <Schism> Yup. Maybe they're full.
23:37 <ADragonDreaming> that's odd.
23:38 <Schism> Or _something_ might have been going on there. Not sure why Dimery Prospect would deny me access, though.
23:40 <Schism> At least Mawson Dock accepts me. ;-;
23:40 <ADragonDreaming> Mawson is how I got the Cobra
23:41 <Schism> Aye, it'll be a nice ship once I get that 300k.
23:47 * Schism knows supercruise assist is slower, but it is her choice to use it.
23:47 <Schism> Okay, Dimery Prospect. Will you let me in now that I have _two_ courier missions for you?
23:47 <ADragonDreaming> I use it because if I don't I always overshoot the blasted place.
23:48 <ADragonDreaming> And letting supercruise assist do it I can play phone games while waiting.
23:48 <Schism> Also useful. o3o
23:48 <ADragonDreaming> also if you leave it on assist you can look at the maps and plan things out and stuff like that.
23:48 * Schism noddles.
23:50 <Schism> NOW the blasted station allows me to dock. Phreeow.
23:51 <Schism> I guess since I was in open play, all the station's docks _were_ being used.
23:51 <ADragonDreaming> That could do it
23:53 <Schism> Oh right, Dimery Prospect sucks, that's why I never came this way too often.
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