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01:03 * Filly_Nightmares chews on Schism ears!
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01:43 <Golden> Merry spookmas
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02:57 <ADragonDreaming> awooooooooo
03:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Nightmare Night Music: Single Purpose - Nightmare Night [Neurofunk] [ https://tinyurl.com/y5kj4n5s ]
03:47 * Schism collapses and dies.
03:51 * Ali uses the dragonballs to revive Schism
03:52 <Schism> Florida Man upset after paying for a 'full contact' leopard experience where a leopard then ate his face.
03:52 <Schism> https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/31/us/florida-man-leopard-mauled-trnd/index.html -- really.
04:02 <Ali> Welcome to Florida
04:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: 25 of the Best Songs for Trixie Day! [ https://tinyurl.com/y4syekjz ]
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05:09 * Ali flops over Schism. "Should almost be time for our russian bot to make a return."
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05:20 <Pony|27039> hey you
05:21 <Schism> goodbye
05:21 <Schism> Ali: You were a few minutes late there!
05:21 <Ali> Right
05:22 * Schism snuggles the Ali. Who is of course not cute at all.
05:22 <Pony|27039> meaning
05:22 <Ali> Really, banlist full...
05:22 *** Ali sets mode: -b *!*@Pony-dgq.i8j.127.92.IP
05:22 *** Ali sets mode: +b *!*@.9.sinor.ru
05:22 <Pony|27039> you also know
05:23 *** Pony|27039 was kicked by Ali (Ali)
05:23 <Ali> Grr, with a maxed ban list, this could be a problem
05:25 <Ali> My question is how did he talk while he was banned
05:25 * Ali whines at Schism
05:25 <Colgate> because the ban doesn't match
05:25 *** DerpyBot sets mode: -b *!*@.9.sinor.ru
05:25 <Colgate> in fact, that ban can't match anything
05:25 <Ali> Grrr
05:26 <Colgate> you missed a *
05:26 <Ali> Oh right...
05:26 <Ali> Anyway is there a way you can get rid of that pest permanately?
05:26 <Colgate> not without banning all of russia probably
05:27 * Cyan_Spark presents Ali with a pair of pony earmuffs
05:27 * Ali wonders why earmuffs
05:28 <Cyan_Spark> Because they're noise-cancelling c:
05:28 <Cyan_Spark> And winter soon
05:31 <Ali> Ok, fixed the syntax on the ban in the akick
05:31 <Ali> How helpful will it be? Probably none
05:32 <Ali> Might have to ban all of sinor.ru if he keeps using that same mask, but he's stupid predictable
05:36 <Colgate> hmm, did we ever put in that cgiirc ban module...
05:36 <Colgate> looks like we didn't
05:37 <Colgate> not sure how much that would help, unless you wanted to ban all kiwiirc users though
05:39 <Ali> Yeah I think there are a few still on that. Don't want to have them adversely affected
05:39 <Ali> Also I see Rainbow's nick is back, have they ever said anything since?
06:00 <PinkieShy> Who needed 2am anyways..
06:00 <PinkieShy> It was just 1:59AM and now its 1am again
06:01 * Ali boops PinkieShy with the end of DST
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07:54 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ConfusionRift
07:55 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
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08:04 * Ali flops over ConfusionRift
08:06 <Golden> Welp 2 am doesn't exist until another hour
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08:14 * ConfusionRift huggles Ali.;
08:15 <Ali> Eh, I've already gone thru 2am twice
08:15 <ConfusionRift> My keyboard is dying...
08:19 <Ali> Give it new batteries
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09:22 *** ChanServ sets mode: +b *!*@*.9.sinor.ru
09:22 *** Pony|51242 was kicked by ChanServ (User is banned from this channel)
09:22 <Ali> Huh, didn't think he'd try again without a cycling of his IP
09:23 * Ali flops. "But that means the banlist is full again..."
09:29 *** Ali sets mode: -b *!*@*.9.sinor.ru
09:29 *** Ali sets mode: -b *!*@*.211.sinor.ru
09:29 *** Ali sets mode: -b *!*@Pony-t8l.hks.189.90.IP
09:29 *** Ali sets mode: -b *!*@Pony-sm7.0n2.189.90.IP
09:29 *** Ali sets mode: -b *!*@Pony-pnl.2je.189.90.IP
09:29 <Ali> That cleans up a few
09:30 * Ali hmmms, wonders of just banning that little IP range...but wonders if that might hit too many others
09:30 * Schism peers at many of the bans coming from 2017. Also, blergs.
09:30 <Ali> How can you see the active ban list?
09:31 * ConfusionRift almost cries.
09:31 <Schism> Hexchat has a Window > Ban List option.
09:32 <Ali> Yes so does mine, but you'd think that feature would only be seen by mods of the channel
09:32 <Ali> Its how I cleaned those bans out
09:32 * Ali pats ConfusionRift. "What's wrong?"
09:32 <ConfusionRift> Water got to the keyboard and was borking. Was able to clean it up at least. Seems to be working fine now.
09:32 <Schism> You'd think, but looks like it's visible on my eeeeeeeep.
09:32 * Schism hugs ConfusionRift.
09:33 <ConfusionRift> I already had enough with double quarantine. Losing the keyboard would just be salt to the wound.
09:33 <Ali> Well I lost my monitor during the early part of the crap
09:33 <Ali> Was lucky to find a semi decent one that wasn't like two month backlogged
09:34 <ConfusionRift> Expect that to start again.
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09:35 <Ali> I hope not
09:35 * ConfusionRift shakes his head. "Right. Better not talk about that mess right now."
09:35 <Ali> I'm already on edge with that topic myself
09:35 * ConfusionRift nods. "And now, for something completely different." Explodes.
09:38 * Ali decides to pass out.
09:38 <Ali> Rifty, keep an eye out for that russian bot in case he comes back with a different IP
09:38 <ConfusionRift> Oh... (huggles)
09:38 <ConfusionRift> Will do.
09:39 <Ali> Might just have to ban all of sinor.ru if it persists
09:39 <ConfusionRift> Still going I see. Alright. If there's no other option.
09:39 <Ali> If that doesn't work, it seems like the 189.90.IP was used before this run
09:40 <Ali> Though banning an IP is a bit more risky
09:40 <ConfusionRift> I... wouldn't try it myself.
09:40 <ConfusionRift> Also, yeah, HexChat can see all banned users.
09:41 <Ali> I doubt anyone here is actively using that IP, but then again, what are the odds of getting new users that aren't trolls or bots now anyways?
09:41 <Ali> But that's for another night, I'm tired.
09:41 <ConfusionRift> Very very rarely, from what I see.
09:41 * Ali passes out on Schism and ConfusionRift
09:41 <ConfusionRift> Alrighty, have a good one!
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09:51 <ConfusionRift> I have come to the conclusion that, when stressed, tend to regress or make very obvious mistakes.
09:52 <ConfusionRift> I disassembled this keyboard 3 times, because I kept forgetting to put some of the inner screws.
09:54 * Dappled wants one of those laser keyboards but also likes feeling keys... Is going to be indecisive til the invention and widespread implementation of hard light technology.
09:56 <ConfusionRift> The laser keyboard is a neat idea, but still needs work. For one, you're not gonna feel the keys... because there aren't any keys. Secondly, they're not very accurate still. But that's due to way too many parameters (surface, glossiness, one's fingers, etc.).
09:58 <ConfusionRift> Oh, and there's a mouse module that one attaches to one's finger, and can use said finger to work the cursor.
09:58 <ConfusionRift> Last I checked, still very WIP.
10:20 <ConfusionRift> Well, some hunting it is.
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11:45 * Lumindia awakens
11:45 * Lumindia gives everypony a big hug, as well as a plate of scrambled eggs
11:48 * ConfusionRift huggles Lumindia in return. :P
11:48 <ConfusionRift> Mmm, scrambled eggs. (drools)
11:50 <Heartbreak> FruitNibbler: Nibbling fruit?
11:51 * Finwe noms on Lumindia and hugs the scrambled eggs.
11:51 <Finwe> Mr Heartbreak.
11:51 * Finwe doffs his hat.
11:51 * Heartbreak shows Finwe a picture of them as a mare, with a bow...
11:52 <Heartbreak> Yooooou can't stop me from drawing them...
11:52 <Heartbreak> Also... 'Mr.;?
11:52 * Heartbreak starts booping Lumindia.
11:54 <Finwe> Heartbreak: Yes, Mr.
11:54 * Lumindia is booped by Heartbreak
11:54 * Lumindia squeaks
11:54 * Heartbreak glowers at Finwe.
11:54 * Lumindia attempts to counterboop
11:55 <Finwe> I've always imagined Heartbreak as looking like this: https://users.aalto.fi/~vhalkola/heartbreak.jpg
11:55 <Finwe> The person to the right, that is. The other one might be female.
11:56 <Heartbreak> ._.
11:56 <Heartbreak> Jet has the uncomfortable feeling that you're stalking them.
11:57 <Finwe> Nosce te ipsum, nosce inimicum tuum, as they say. :3
12:03 <Cepheid> Dangit, it's getting cold in the house.
12:04 <Finwe> Time to turn on the heating then.
12:07 * Lumindia applies self to Ceph to provide warms
12:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #2102 [ https://tinyurl.com/y5wjvcdo ]
12:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Carve In / Anti-Shipping / Dirty Dash / DJTD 7 / Sketches 117-120 / Movie Slate: Horror / Soft Heart 16 / AoS 6:28-30 [ https://tinyurl.com/yyrdu4aj ]
12:11 * Cepheid snuggles Lumindia with a miniature Bazelgeuse.
12:12 <Finwe> Like Betelgeuse, but with more baz?
12:13 <Cepheid> Nah.
12:13 <Cepheid> https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/monsterhunter/images/e/e2/MHW-Bazelgeuse_Render_001.png/revision/latest?cb=20180224091735
12:14 <Finwe> "Bazelgeuse's name is derived from Betelgeuse (pronounced "beetle-juice"), the brightest star in the Orion constellation."
12:15 <Cepheid> The orange things along the tail and along the neck of the creature are small bomb pods that can be separated from the body and dropped onto the ground.
12:15 <Cepheid> It's lead to the nickname of "The B-52"
12:16 <Finwe> Yup. 'Bazelgeuse has been given various nicknames by the community, such as the "B-52 Bomber", and the "Flying Asshole."'
12:16 <Cepheid> Especially as it has an attack akin to a swarm of bombers, wherein it sweeps around in straight lines, dropping bomb pods.
12:16 <Finwe> "Word is, if you say his name three times in a row, he will show up above you and carpet bomb the entire area."
12:16 <Cepheid> Preeeettty much.
12:17 <Cepheid> In previous games, the big, troublesome invading monster was Deviljho.
12:17 <Cepheid> In Monster Hunter: World, it's Bazelgeuse. At least, for High Rank.
12:17 <Finwe> Also, "Runner-up for the Most Earpiercing Roar in Monster Hunter World Award"
12:18 <Cepheid> And most often, when he shows up, it's usually too late for you to notice. You'd think something that big would be more noticeable when fighting, but apparently it likes to do the bombing run without making a noise.
12:19 <Cepheid> He was replaced with Savage Deviljho in the Iceborne expansion. He did get an upgraded version though, as a separate monster hunt.
12:19 <Cepheid> Which I'm thankful they didn't make the invading monster, because the subspecies/variant of Bazelgeuse is...
12:20 <Cepheid> It's a lot more explosive.
12:20 <Cepheid> And also includes what is basically a nuclear option attack. It spins, spreading a bunch of large explosives all around it, then flies up into the air, and just straight up dive bombs to the ground, creating a massive explosion all around it.
12:20 <Cepheid> https://imgur.com/gallery/RaxSjzv Also, Finwe?
12:22 <Finwe> That particular fact is true. "Marras" is old Finnish for 'dead'.
12:22 * Dappled hears talk of the dreaded Bagel Goose. Hides under the table.
12:23 <Finwe> Modern use is limited to "marraskuu" ('dead moon', November) and marraskesi ('dead layer', stratum corneum).
12:26 <Cepheid> What does Finland call the other months? How about May?
12:29 <Finwe> The Finnish months are oak moon, pearl moon, emerging earth moon, slash-burn moon, sowing moon, summer moon, hay moon, harvest moon, autumn moon, dirt moon, dead moon and yule moon.
12:30 <Cepheid> Okay then.
12:30 <Finwe> So May is sowing moon.
12:30 <Finwe> Or sowing month.
12:30 <Cepheid> Somewhat similar to how Japanese handles the month names. Though in their case, they just use <number> <kanji for moon>.
12:31 * Finwe nodnods.
12:31 <Finwe> The Finnish names are quite descriptive.
12:32 <Cepheid> So, 一月、二月、三月、四月、五月、六月、七月、八月、九月、十月、十一月、十二月.
12:32 <Dappled> I mean, that's how many cultures did things before everyone "agreed" to the greco roman calendar.
12:32 * Dappled didn't agree so thinks we should abolish it.
12:33 <Finwe> 有り難う.
12:34 <Finwe> Dappled: Even the Roman calendar had numbered months in the beginning, some have just been renamed.
12:34 <Cepheid> Usually that's written with just kana, not the kanji.
12:35 <Dappled> Yeah, and then Julius and Agustus had to ruin the number pattern, didn't they?
12:35 <Finwe> The first month was renamed after the god of war, Mars.
12:37 <Finwe> Martius, Aprilius, Maius, Iunius, Iulius, Augustus, September, October, November, December, Ianuarius, Februarius
12:37 <Dappled> Hey, if the god of war tells you to do something when your rapidly expanding your empire, you should probably do it.
12:37 <Cepheid> If I had to guess, I'm gonna go with "It was accepted because in the relevant languages, it flows better than using <noun, adjective or number> <word for month>"
12:38 <Finwe> Erm, Aprilis, not Aprilius.
12:38 <Cepheid> Going "The first of the eleventh month" sounds a little awkward."
12:38 <ConfusionRift> Dappled: Well, yeah. I mean, he's the god of war. :P
12:38 <Cepheid> What about Spanish, ConfusionRift? What's their approach to month names?
12:39 <Finwe> Spanish is just Iberian vulgar Latin, so...
12:40 <Cepheid> You know, when I compare myself to Finwe, I feel like I'm an idiot.
12:41 <Finwe> Enero, febrero, marzo, abril, mayo, junio, julio, agosto, septiembre, octubre, noviembre, diciembre.
12:41 <ConfusionRift> Same as in English, so basically from Roman gods.
12:42 <ConfusionRift> Yep, that's them in Spanish.
12:42 <Cepheid> French does the same, apparently.
12:42 <Finwe> Yup.
12:43 <Finwe> German, Swedish, Danish, Norwegian and Dutch as well.
12:43 <Finwe> And Italian.
12:43 <ConfusionRift> Same goes with the days. Though, Sunday is Domingo, which I wonder why.
12:43 <Finwe> Day of the Lord.
12:44 <Finwe> For religious reasons.
12:44 <Dappled> Dang empiralists.
12:44 <Dappled> impiralists.
12:44 <Dappled> However.
12:44 <Cepheid> Japanese, meanwhile, technically has different names for each day, rather than numbers.
12:45 <Finwe> Finnish has adaptations of Germanic names and some indigenous ones.
12:45 <Cepheid> 土曜日、日曜日、月曜日、火曜日、水曜日、木曜日、金曜日
12:46 <Cepheid> Though in a sense they still use the same convention. <kanji> <kanji for "day of week">
12:46 <Finwe> Monday is maanantai, Tuesday is tiistai, Wednesday is keskiviikko ('midweek'), Thursday is torstai, Friday is perjantai, Saturday is lauantai ('washing-day') and Sunday is sunnuntai.
12:46 <Cepheid> By the way, the above is: Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
12:47 <Cepheid> As for the meaning of the relevant kanji..
12:48 <Cepheid> "ground; dirt; soil", "sun", "moon", "fire", "water", "tree", and "money".
12:48 <Finwe> The Estonians just number the first four days, have same names as Finnish for the next two and call Sunday pühapäev ('holy day').
12:49 <Cepheid> Or rather, "gold" instead of "money"
12:49 <Cepheid> But the kanji itself is used in the word for "money" so...
12:49 <Cepheid> My professor joked that as a result, Friday is called "Money Day"
12:50 <Cepheid> So, Earth Day, Sun Day, Moon Day, Fire Day, Water Day, Tree Day, Gold/Money Day.
12:50 <Finwe> With Sun Day not being Sunday.
12:50 <Finwe> 6.9
12:51 <Cepheid> As I stated earlier, the order of the days I mentioned was Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday, so actually, Sun Day is equivalent to English Sunday.
12:52 <Finwe> Oh.
12:53 <Finwe> The Chinese obviously associated the day to sun.
12:54 <Cepheid> Presumably. History of the meanings of kanji isn't really covered in my class. Though on occasion the professor does ask the Chinese students about the meanings and/or history behind certain kanji.
12:55 <Finwe> If I see correctly, the sign for sun is the second part of "day".
12:55 <Cepheid> Mmhmm. 曜日 is "day of the week".
12:59 <Finwe> https://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~wwu/chinese/handout_files/image009.gif
13:00 <Finwe> The evolution of some pictographs.
13:00 * Dappled shall now sleep. Cause the sun is up.
13:00 <Cepheid> Yeh.
13:03 <Finwe> The word "fish" on the oracle bone and in the greater seal is quite easy to understand, while when written in modern script, the meaning isn't that obvious anymore.
13:19 <Cepheid> I've been poking at kanji more and more as of late. Besides the prof using kanji we haven't learned, or won't be learning for a few chapters in the textbook, I've been noticing that, if I treat the kanji as pictograms, and remember their meanings, I can discern the meaning of a word I am unfamiliar with, or am having trouble remembering, a bit more easily.
13:20 <Cepheid> Starting to think I should probably associate a picture or drawing with each word I learn.
13:24 <Cepheid> Honestly at this point I'm curious as to how the hell we even learn and retain all of these words of our "native" language.
13:24 <Cepheid> I know the brain is less malleable as we grow older, but still.
13:26 <Cepheid> I'm curious about the physiological reasons as to why, for example, I can learn new programming stuff with extreme ease, but a new language, read, written or spoken, is so much harder.
13:46 * Cepheid investigates Vulkan layers.
13:51 <Cepheid> Probably one of Vulkan's most interesting features, to me.
13:53 <Cepheid> Basically, layers are libraries that are placed in between the application and driver. These libraries intercept Vulkan calls from the application, do something with said calls, and then pass the call onto the next layer in the chain, which ultimately ends up at the driver.
13:53 <Cepheid> The purpose of it? Validation, mainly.
13:53 <Cepheid> But other things can be done with it.
13:54 <Cepheid> For example, drawing an overlay to report information.
13:55 <Cepheid> In graphics programming, error checking is a costly operation, so you want to avoid it. However, error checking is helpful *DURING* development.
13:57 <Cepheid> In OpenGL and older D3D code, this typically involved creating chunks of code that are wrapped in "#ifdef DEBUG" type blocks. These checks are then removed by undefining the specified constant during the build process.
13:57 <ADragonDreaming> programming languages are, by definition, con-langs that have clear, simple, and logical rules of grammar and syntax. Human languages, on the other hand, are "grown" and are far more complicated than a programming language will ever be. So that's at least one contributing aspect.
13:57 <Cepheid> Mmm.
13:57 <Cepheid> I also wonder if it has to do with, in my case, the fact that I only ever learned one language: English.
13:58 <Cepheid> I was supposed to learn French, but due to my hearing problems as a child, doctor's advice was "pull your kid out of all French classes."
13:59 <Cepheid> So, as a result, I never really got a chance to learn a new language.
13:59 <ADragonDreaming> could also be a contributing factor.
14:00 <ConfusionRift> A Witcher... crossover? Okay okay, I'm digging it.
14:00 <Cepheid> The premise of this theory is based on comparison of one key factor between the two things.
14:00 <Cepheid> One, I know a lot of programming languages.
14:00 <Cepheid> C, C++, C#, Java, Perl, HTML, JavaScript, etc, etc, etc.
14:01 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, I only know one natural, spoken language.
14:01 <Lumindia> just learn to speak programming languages
14:02 <Cepheid> New programming languages may be easy for me to pick up because I can apply what I know from other programming languages, or frame the new language in terms of another language to understand how they work.
14:02 <Cepheid> Learning by association of new material to material I already know.
14:02 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, spoken languages? All I have to work on is English.
14:02 <Lumindia> yeah that's harder with spoken languages
14:02 <Lumindia> programming languages tend to follow similar rules and logic for the most part(I'm not a programmer so I'm probably wrong)
14:03 <Cepheid> I would assume the more spoken languages one knows, the easier it becomes.
14:03 <Cepheid> Finwe might be able to verify that, I think he knows a number of languages.
14:03 <ADragonDreaming> I think that's accurate. The other part of it is that you aren't immersed in the second language.
14:03 <Cepheid> Not all languages, Lumindia. There's different "paradigms" they're called.
14:03 <ADragonDreaming> usage and immersion is important to fluency.
14:03 <Cepheid> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programming_paradigm
14:04 <Cepheid> Mmm.
14:04 <Cepheid> That, is admittedly a problem here.
14:04 <Lumindia> like I said, I'm not a programmer.
14:04 <Lumindia> xD
14:04 <Cepheid> I don't really know anyone to use the language with.
14:04 <ADragonDreaming> yep.
14:04 <Cepheid> And while I can use social media to immerse myself, that's of limited use.
14:05 <Cepheid> Instead, I kind of have to immerse myself in other ways. Anime, video games, manga, etc.
14:05 <Cepheid> Lumindia: The world of programming languages is probably just as diverse as the world of spoken languages, put simply.
14:05 <Cepheid> Otherwise, we'd have fewer programming languages.
14:08 <Cepheid> I despise functional languages. I can use them, and I understand their value, but good gods.
14:09 <Cepheid> ConfusionRift: Have fun with the Witcher quests.
14:14 * Cepheid cracks knuckles, various bones.
14:17 <Cepheid> Also, good morning ADragonDreaming. Sleep well?
14:20 <Finwe> Cepheid: I guess so.
14:21 <Finwe> Learning a new language is usually about memorising new words and imbibing the grammatical structure.
14:22 <Finwe> Most of the languages I know are Germanic, and there are a lot similarities, which makes it a bit easier.
14:24 <ConfusionRift> Cepheid: Interesting so far. Wouldn't mind if the game was actually like this. Interesting insight on the wyverian botanist.
14:24 <Cepheid> Heh.
14:25 <ADragonDreaming> Yeh, was good sleep.
14:26 <Cepheid> Same.
14:26 * ADragonDreaming keeps commentary on the Witcher crossover quiet until Rifty has completed it.
14:27 <Cepheid> Mmm.
14:30 * Cepheid noms a box of Mike and Ikes, then finally looks at the nutritional info. "..."
14:30 <Cepheid> Right, starting tomorrow, I'm gonna reduce my sugar intake again, and start exercising, now that my breathing is doing much better than usual, inexplicably.
14:31 <ADragonDreaming> hehehe
14:35 <Cepheid> It'd be a good way to stave off the occasional bits of paranoia, madness and such that I deal with.
14:35 <ADragonDreaming> sit ups, push ups, etc.?
14:37 <Lumindia> and plenty of juice?
14:37 <Cepheid> Push-ups, treadmill usage.
14:37 <Cepheid> And juice, not so much. Water. Lots of water. Or water mixed with sugarfree drink mixes.
14:48 <Lumindia> I'm making a TFS reference
14:49 <Lumindia> it's how Vegeta became super saiyan
14:49 <Lumindia> "Push-ups, Sit-up, and plenty of juice"
14:49 <ADragonDreaming> TFS?
14:49 <Lumindia> Team Four Star
14:49 <ADragonDreaming> Ah.
14:49 <Lumindia> DBZ Abridged
14:50 <ADragonDreaming> That's an acronym used in my work.
14:50 <ADragonDreaming> But it means Toyota Financial Services.
14:50 <Lumindia> heh
14:50 <Lumindia> that's kek
14:53 <ADragonDreaming> I would suggest being careful with that particular word. Like many things, it has been hijacked by alt-right white supremacists. You may give out signals you didn't mean to.
14:54 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.
14:55 * Cepheid hums. Wonders why Intel chose to use a different polynomial for it's CRC32 instruction than what is commonly used in CRC32 functions for various fields.
14:57 <Cepheid> Looks like it was done for iSCSI purposes.
14:58 <ADragonDreaming> iscsi?
14:58 <ADragonDreaming> (all caps protection prevents from proper capitalization of that)
15:03 <Cepheid> Internet-based SCSI storage for data. Typically used in data centers, looks like.
15:04 * Finwe hats on Lumindia.
15:07 * ConfusionRift thuds. "That was interesting... but a major pain."
15:07 <Cepheid> Yeah, the Leshen's a bit of an annoying git, due to the fire thing.
15:08 <Cepheid> That said, the Ancient Leshen's a different case.
15:08 <Cepheid> That one, you can face with more than one player.
15:08 <ConfusionRift> And it's likely an even greater pain.
15:09 <Cepheid> It's comparable to Arch-Tempered monsters, so yeah.
15:09 <ConfusionRift> I mean, you use pretty low level equipment for that Leshen, so anything beyond that is gonna require better gear.
15:13 * Cepheid stretches, and moves stuff around.
15:13 * Lumindia is hatted on
15:13 * Lumindia falls over
15:16 <Cepheid> I think I'm sick with a minor nose/sinus infection.
15:16 <Cepheid> Again.
15:19 <ADragonDreaming> ech
15:19 <ADragonDreaming> That's no good.
15:19 <ADragonDreaming> Rifty: did you get the Wild Hunt badge?
15:20 <ConfusionRift> ...heh?
15:20 <ADragonDreaming> The Witcher quest has sidequests.
15:21 <Cepheid> Badge?
15:21 <ADragonDreaming> sorry, Title.
15:21 <ConfusionRift> I know of one, but was close to the main thing, and thought I could do it later... nope. Will have to do the whole thing again.
15:22 <ADragonDreaming> Yeah, you have to do all of them all together in one run. Which was the reason I was annoyed with it.
15:22 <ConfusionRift> Especially when that fight isn't fun.
15:23 <ADragonDreaming> There's a Pukei-Pukei you can free from grasping roots, who then "helps" you again the Leshen.
15:23 <ADragonDreaming> *against
15:23 <ConfusionRift> ...
15:23 <ConfusionRift> Well now.
15:23 <ConfusionRift> That would have been interesting to see.
15:23 <ADragonDreaming> The problem is that to complete the sidequest you need to do it with said Pukei-Pukei alive. And the Leshen's jagras will focus on the pukei-pukei and will shred it.
15:24 <ADragonDreaming> My failure at this some months ago was a serious frustration.
15:25 <Cepheid> Fun, fun.
15:25 <Cepheid> At least the special investigation sticks around, so you can do it anytime, really.
15:25 <ConfusionRift> Those Jagras are ridiculous. They pile up fast, and just bump you till you either get launched, crowed, or they have a gap.
15:25 <ADragonDreaming> Then I came back to the game, did regular hunts, got used to the game again, discovered Power Axe mode in Charge Blade, and wound up rolling the Leshen.
15:25 <ConfusionRift> Switchaxe helps, but you can still get interrupted.
15:26 <ADragonDreaming> It helps a lot if you can bust its head.
15:26 <ConfusionRift> Not a lot of ledges to jump from.
15:26 * Cepheid spends time in the training area to practice SA for a bit.
15:27 <ADragonDreaming> aye. Power Axe mode helped with that, because it works like a ripsaw and does multiple hits all across the arc of the swing.
15:27 <ADragonDreaming> Thus you get multiple hits on multiple locations, not just the first contact point.
15:27 <Cepheid> Basic combo, hmm.. If I don't want to launch others, the best combo seems to be...
15:27 <ConfusionRift> I also thought it wasn't a big deal, and used long sword for too long, which burned too much time.
15:27 <Cepheid> Forward Slash, Overhead Slash, Side Slash.
15:28 <Cepheid> Which is Forward+Attack, Attack, Attack. To ensure that the combo continues without doing the upward swing at any point, I should side step.
15:28 <ADragonDreaming> Have you unlocked Iceborne, Rifty?
15:28 <Cepheid> As that cancels the side slash animation so I can move forward again.
15:29 <ConfusionRift> Yep, done with the main game already. Was just clearing some of the optionals. I also need armor, because I doubt the defender set is gonna last long.
15:29 <ADragonDreaming> You are correct.
15:29 <Cepheid> Alternatively...
15:29 <Cepheid> Forward+Attack, Attack, Attack, Back+Attack.
15:29 <Cepheid> Forward Slash, Overhead Slash, Side Slash, Fade Slash.
15:30 <Cepheid> Er, Back+Secondary Attack
15:30 <ADragonDreaming> Do you have a set in mind?
15:30 <Cepheid> Fade Slash moves me back a bit. It'd be useful for backing away from a monster.
15:30 <ConfusionRift> I need to train on charge blade. Super rusty. Also, try to figure out power axe mode.
15:30 <ConfusionRift> At the moment, no. Don't know what's ahead. I also have... no other sets.
15:31 <Cepheid> Hmm. Interesting.
15:31 <ADragonDreaming> Power Axe mode trigger: do the Amped Element Slash (the big overhead phial-using swing that then transitions to sword-mode)
15:32 <ADragonDreaming> but as you start it, hit the slinger-mode button.
15:32 <Cepheid> There's an infinite combo. Forward + Attack, Attack, Forward + Secondary, Attack, Forward + Secondary, repeat.
15:32 <ADragonDreaming> "Savage axe strike"
15:32 <Cepheid> It results in Forward Slash, Overhead Slash repeating.
15:32 <Cepheid> Interestingly the control view doesn't show this.
15:33 <ADragonDreaming> Isn't that the infinitely advancing combo?
15:33 <Cepheid> Mmm, yeah, it shows in the manual.
15:33 <Cepheid> Just not on the upper-right corner thing.
15:33 <Cepheid> And is easier than the other combo to perform, alright then.
15:34 <ADragonDreaming> Hum hum. I need 3 more Jyura shards for that gunlance.
15:34 <Cepheid> Oh, huh.
15:35 <Cepheid> Slinger burst is a bit trickier to pull off with SnS, but it seems the Switch Axe makes it straightforward.
15:35 <Cepheid> After a forward slash, I can press C to do a slinger burst.
15:36 <Cepheid> Looks like I can do it after a Forward Slash and Side Slash.
15:36 <Cepheid> So Forward + Attack, Attack, Attack, C for a nice finisher with slinger burst.
15:37 <ADragonDreaming> oh right, I should look up what the wyrmstake does.
15:38 <ConfusionRift> Isn't that like an explosive pilebunker?
15:38 <Cepheid> Hum, just wish that there was a better opening attack for the SA.
15:38 <ConfusionRift> I don't remember. It's been a very long time since I even dabbled on gunlance.
15:39 <Cepheid> That's generally why you see me dashing/rolling instead of sheathing and running.
15:39 <Cepheid> Because the unsheathing action leaves me wide open pretty quickly.
15:39 <Cepheid> Though, it's a side slash, so I can immediately transition into a fade slash.
15:39 <Cepheid> So go in, strike, fade slash out.
15:40 <Cepheid> Looks like I can also slinger burst after a fade slash.
15:40 * Cepheid is mostly studying and practicing because, really, we're getting to a point where I should probably master my weapon choice.
15:40 <ConfusionRift> At least, you can still move at normal speed with it on axe mode. On sword mode... yeah, more in the open.
15:40 <Cepheid> Mmhmm,
15:41 <Cepheid> That said, it's not all bad.
15:41 <ADragonDreaming> Explosive pilebunker is correct. And then you hit the spot where it got stuck into the monster with pokes and shells, and that will make it explode as well?
15:41 <Cepheid> If you WANT to use sword mode, you can use one of the various transitions.
15:41 <ConfusionRift> I used to be at least competent with most weapons in the game. Just got used to the switchaxe.
15:41 <Cepheid> For example, open up with sword slash by using the transform button while sheathed, then press back and secondary attack, fade slash into SA.
15:41 <ConfusionRift> ADragonDreaming: I think so.
15:42 <Cepheid> I call it "Secondary" because it's the right mouse button for me, and I'm not sure what button that is on a controller at this point.
15:42 <Cepheid> While keyboard+mouse is a bit convoluted, it does provide access to quick keys.
15:42 <ADragonDreaming> In terms of weaponry, I have experience with many of the weapons. The ones I haven't really touched: bowgun, bow, SnS, Dual Blades, Insect Glaive.
15:43 <Cepheid> With a bit of training I could probably utilize all the weapons, but I find that I fare better with high mobility.
15:43 <Cepheid> SnS provides high mobility, but low damage, and a shield. Switch-Axe provides a good balance between mobility and damage, but it tends to be a pain for other players.
15:43 <Cepheid> Well, most of them anyways.
15:44 <Cepheid> ADragonDreaming regularly abuses the fact that I send him flying.
15:44 <ConfusionRift> Getting used to bowguns again. Was fun tearing with those. :P
15:44 <ADragonDreaming> I prefer Saxe users to Longsword or Insect Glaivers.
15:44 <ConfusionRift> I'm a bit cold with bows, and I don't think I'm heading back to heavy bowguns... maybe. They are fun as well, but tricky.
15:45 <Cepheid> I am mildly annoyed with one thing regarding the Sword Mode.
15:45 <Cepheid> It's fade slash is a different pair of buttons.
15:45 <Cepheid> For Axe Mode, it's Back Movement Direction + Primary.
15:46 <Cepheid> Er, Secondary, not primary.
15:46 <Cepheid> So in my case, if my camera is properly aligned, S + Right Mouse Button.
15:46 <ADragonDreaming> Anywho. MR 1* large monster armors are... Beotodus, Banbaro, Kulu, Tzitzi, Great Jagras, Pukei-Pukei, Tobi, Barroth, Jyura, Girros, Dodo.
15:46 <ConfusionRift> ADragonDreaming: Not fond of long slashes that cancel your attacks? :P
15:46 <ADragonDreaming> ConfusionRift: indeed.
15:47 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, Sword Mode is Back Movement Direction + Tertiary. S + CTRL or S + Middle Mouse Button. It's because it transforms back to SA.
15:47 <ADragonDreaming> Of those armors I've personally gotten the most utility out of Beo, Banbaro, Girros, and Dodo.
15:48 <ConfusionRift> I think getting stuck in the middle of a demon slash is almost as bad.
15:48 <Cepheid> Interestingly, I don't like Dual Blades. Despite the high mobility for moving around, when you start an attack, it feels like you're locked in for a really long time.
15:49 <ADragonDreaming> If I had a long-sword hunting buddy or similar, I think I'd make a lot more use of Brace jewels.
15:49 <Cepheid> Hum, the longest combo I can pull off is...
15:49 <Cepheid> For Sword, anyways, is...
15:49 <Cepheid> Primary, Primary, Primary, Secondary, Secondary.
15:49 * ConfusionRift loads some pellet shots, and smiles. "You will learn a new nuisance." :P
15:50 <Cepheid> Those are less of a problem in World, if I recall.
15:50 <ADragonDreaming> World reduced friendly-fire flinching across the board, yes.
15:50 <ADragonDreaming> But I do remember pellet shots.
15:50 * ConfusionRift nods. "I got eyes and faces due to that."
15:51 <ADragonDreaming> If you like, I'd be willing to run some quick runs on MR monsters with you, Rifty. Get sets going.
15:51 <Cepheid> Same.
15:51 <Cepheid> I have no issues with hunting some MR monsters.
15:51 <Cepheid> Sides, it'd give me some time to test these combos in the field.
15:52 <Cepheid> Combos I've already forgotten despite using them multiple times in practice! o3o
15:52 <ConfusionRift> I haven't started it yet. Also sorta stopped after the Leshen mess.
15:53 * ConfusionRift sighs. "Screw it."
15:53 <Cepheid> Well, we're generally always here in some form or another, so..
15:53 <ConfusionRift> Have to do a call first.
15:53 <Cepheid> Hmm. Right.
15:54 <Cepheid> Amped status does NOT increase damage output of my axe form.
16:00 * ConfusionRift sighs and tosses his phone.
16:00 <ConfusionRift> Done with that. Let me boot it up.
16:00 <ConfusionRift> Will probably be for like an hour or so.
16:03 <ConfusionRift> !dMLTG$d4fYN
16:05 <ConfusionRift> Should I do the starting expedition first?
16:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Nightmare Night Pony Compilation Album: Equestrian Terror Corps - Luna's Nightmare Society [ https://tinyurl.com/y23bkbl4 ]
16:09 <Cepheid> Ah, sorry./
16:09 <Cepheid> We're in the midst of a quick Jyura hunt.
16:09 <ConfusionRift> Well, kinda started the expedition.
16:12 <Cepheid> Ah, yeah, there's the expedition.
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16:12 <ADragonDreaming> yeah, you gotta do that first.
16:12 <Cepheid> It's nothing major, but you do have to do it, yes.
16:12 <ADragonDreaming> It'll unlock an optional.
16:13 <Cepheid> And yeah, any time there's an expedition with a monster hunt, go and find the monster, then return from the expedition.
16:13 <Cepheid> It'll allow you to take an optional/assigned variant that we can join without having to rely on SOS.
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17:19 <Schism> Hum. A method has been used to hijack an HTTP connection to break SIP ALG, thus allowing an attacker access to any port on the target box.
17:20 <Schism> Happy nightmares... https://twitter.com/samykamkar/status/1322671073893126144
17:35 <Cepheid> Fun.
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17:48 <PinkieShy> ... :(
17:50 <Cepheid> https://imgur.com/gallery/ZFsVKpK Schism.
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18:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Animation: Practice what you Preach [ https://tinyurl.com/y4597eyx ]
18:17 <ConfusionRift> Cepheid, ADragonDreaming: Gonna call it a day for now. Haven't rest yet. Seems I already need an armor change. Let me know later which would be a good starter set, because that last one was rough. For now, gotta go. Laters!
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18:18 <Ali> Wow rare to see Rifty on when I get back up
18:19 * Lumindia flops on Ali... is sadpone atm
18:19 * Ali brushies the Lumindia
18:25 <Lumindia> depression is flaring up something fierce right now
18:28 <Ali> Yeah that sucks Lumindia *huggles even more*
18:28 * Lumindia squek
18:32 <Cepheid> https://i.imgur.com/FC2lX29.jpg
18:34 <Lumindia> ... oddly relevant to WHY my depression is flaring up.
18:35 <Lumindia> heh
18:44 * Cepheid wanders off to take a shower.
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18:49 <ADragonDreaming> !log
18:49 <Unixkitty> https://unixkitty.com/logs/EquestriaDaily/latest.log.html
18:52 <ADragonDreaming> !mbox help
19:06 <Cepheid> Back.
19:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Penny Wrights: Equestria Girls: Street Magic with Trixie Episode Follow Up [ https://tinyurl.com/y69nkoca ]
19:08 <Schism> Pfff. Is this a Simpsons reference, I wonder. https://twitter.com/wonderella/status/1322965786357604354
19:13 * Ali flops across Schism
19:48 <Finwe> Good evening, my little ponies.
19:49 <Finwe> Miss Ali, Messrs Cepheid, Lumindia and PinkieShy.
19:49 * Finwe doffs his hat.
19:49 * Ali doffs over Finwe
19:52 <Finwe> Lt Pony|20484, Capt Koopz.
19:52 <Finwe> o7
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19:53 <Finwe> Mr Golden.
19:53 * Finwe doffs his hat.
19:54 <Golden> Heya
20:02 * Pony|20484 waves.
21:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Dark Potion Nova Music: Blackened Blue - All You Need [Hard Rock] [ https://tinyurl.com/y2c8kbc7 ]
21:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3507 [ https://tinyurl.com/y5nx84lb ]
21:10 <Schism> Hmm. The Steam Dragon Express is cute.
21:10 * Schism reads a bit of it while on her break.
21:11 <Lumindia> Time for Pepperoni Bread
21:12 * Lumindia shares with Schism
21:12 * Schism noms, and offers Lumindia a croissant with cream cheese and apricot jam.
21:13 <Lumindia> oo
21:13 * Lumindia nibble
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22:32 <Cepheid> Right, that's enough MonHan for me today. I'm exhausted as hell inexplicably, so I'm gonna get comfy and go to bed early tonight.
22:43 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3c4GYwHnDc
22:43 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
22:43 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Bazeltoot
23:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Everything Wrong With The Crystalling - Part 1 [ https://tinyurl.com/y5unc49l ]
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