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00:38 <Cepheid> Words of advice: Don't take quetiapine on an empty stomach. Seriously, don't do it.
00:39 <Cepheid> Bit 'o nausea, and atop that, I feel so out of it I'm wondering if I took that medication or downed 12 cans of beer in 5 minutes. I feel utterly drunk, and the world feels like it's spinning, but not in the conventional sense. I'm not giving you that one, Finwe.
00:42 <ADragonDreaming> whoof. That sounds awful
00:43 <Cepheid> How in the hell is anyone supposed to function on this stuff at a maintenance dose of 400+?
00:47 <Cepheid> https://imgur.com/gallery/k9xLWIW
00:48 <ADragonDreaming> hahahaah
01:08 <Golden> The Monster Hunter Rise Demo is out now
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01:13 <Schism> Sure would be nice if there were a PC version.
01:13 <ADragonDreaming> Are you Switch-less?
01:23 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Say Something Nice About Captain Spitfire [ https://tinyurl.com/y5jzuk35 ]
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01:47 <Schism> Yes, I am.
01:47 <Schism> Also, hum. LifeLabs appointment tomorrow for fasting bloodwork. If I'm going to eat something, it'll be over the next hour, so that I have that 12 hour fast.
01:55 <Golden> Loving the deno
01:58 <Golden> Though the staggering from switch axes, lances I did not miss
02:07 <Finwe> Mr Golden.
02:07 * Finwe doffs his hat.
02:08 <Finwe> Some Mort and then sleep soundeth like a plan.
02:13 <Schism> Finwe: "YOU are my little lads... and I will look after you."
02:23 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #2397 [ https://tinyurl.com/y27baka8 ]
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02:35 <Schism> Oh, it's an 8 hour fast. Okay, that's fine.
02:38 <Schism> "How many fingers am I holding up?" "You know, that's something an Igor should never say."
02:38 * ADragonDreaming pokes Schism to the query
02:41 * Schism blinks. o.o
02:41 <Golden> Hm
03:23 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: "What It Means To Be A Brony" Music: MC-Arch - #TakeItBack [Hip Hop] [ https://tinyurl.com/y3dafmmf ]
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03:37 <Schism> TFW I kind of want to make myself a plate of waffles before I fast for bloodwork.
03:38 <Schism> Because waffles.
03:41 * Ali flops over Schism and sads
03:45 * Schism hugs the Ali, and provides a waffle with some sweet cherry jam?
04:11 * Ali belatedly nibbles on Schism instead of foods
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06:34 <DerpyBot> *derp*
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07:05 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
07:08 * Ali flops over the ConfusionRift
07:09 * ConfusionRift huggles Ali.
07:18 <ConfusionRift> They're closing the closest Game Stop, everything was on liquidation. (shrugs)
07:20 <Ali> Get some cheap games then
07:20 <ConfusionRift> i did. :P
07:20 <ConfusionRift> There wasn't much left, but did get a few.
07:38 <Golden> Saving 20$ for Scott Pilgrim vs the world game
07:49 <ConfusionRift> Got Age of Calamity for $35?
07:50 <ConfusionRift> Oh, and Crackdown 3 for $5, because no one wanted it and was on my bucket list. :P
07:58 <ConfusionRift> All the really good stuff was gone, obviously.
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09:57 <Golden> Hm
10:02 <ConfusionRift> Hmm?
10:15 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift, Mr Golden, Miss Ali.
10:15 <Finwe> o7
10:15 * Ali doffs over Finwe
10:15 <Finwe> Good afternoon, my perissodactyls of minute stature.
10:15 * Finwe hugs the Ali.
10:15 * Cepheid flops.
10:15 <Golden> Hey
10:15 <Ali> Isn't it not afternoon where you are Finwe
10:15 <Finwe> It's quarter past noon.
10:16 <Finwe> That counts as afternoon.
10:17 * Ali didn't think Finwe was seven hours ahead.
10:17 <Cepheid> Also, afternoon can be applied to literally any time after noon.
10:17 <Finwe> Of course, special relativity states that it's actually a matter of frame of reference.
10:17 <Finwe> Cepheid: And before evening, so from 12:00 to 18:00.
10:17 <Cepheid> Finwe, you're doing it again.
10:18 <Finwe> The distinction between morning and forenoon is a bit more unclear.
10:23 <Cepheid> You're being overly pedantic again.
10:23 * Cepheid grabs some rope, and ConfusionRift. "I need your help with this."
10:24 <Cepheid> Oh, hey, ConfusionRift.
10:24 <Cepheid> A new feature was revealed in Rise.
10:24 <Cepheid> Wyvern Riding.
10:25 * Ali waves the two goodbye as unicorn tries to get bots going
10:25 <Ali> In her own world
10:25 <Ali> Cause things
10:25 <Cepheid> Ah, I was gonna say.
10:25 <Cepheid> 'Cause we surpassed 100 Log bots yesterday.
10:26 <Cepheid> Er, 1000*
10:26 * Ali can only do construct bots, and it was 3 hours into the world. Feels too slow.
10:26 * ConfusionRift wavies Ali back. :P
10:27 <ConfusionRift> Cepheid: Saw that. Just kept forgetting to download the demo.
10:27 <Finwe> Cepheid: You have to know the distinction, because for occasions starting at 6 p.m. or later you have to wear eveningwear instead of morningwear.
10:27 <Cepheid> Also, I created a massive steam battery bank that holds a little under 300GJ of 500C steam, and enough steam turbines to generate 2.3GJ of power.
10:28 * Cepheid ties Finwe up with the rope, safely and comfortably mind you. Tosses the other end of the rope over a tree branch on a high tree, and hoists Finwe up. Stakes the rope into the ground.
10:28 <Ali> See I'm annoyed a bit that power produced is MW but when its stored its MJ
10:28 <Cepheid> ConfusionRift: Well, it wasn't available until today, so..
10:28 <Finwe> Most notably during a dissertation people wear tailcoat with black vest and tailcoat with white vest to the dinner afterwards.
10:28 <ConfusionRift> It's been up for a while here.
10:28 <Cepheid> They said January 7th 0:00 in the video, but it was apparently January 8th.
10:29 <Cepheid> I must have to look harder then.
10:29 * Cepheid stuffs an apple with airholes into Finwe's mouth. o3o
10:29 <Finwe> Ali: It's energy that is stored, not power.
10:29 <ConfusionRift> Oh, and RAdm. Finwe! (salutes)
10:30 <Finwe> Power is the first time derivative of energy. o3o
10:30 <Cepheid> Yeah, I was gonna say.
10:30 <Cepheid> That makes watts a time-based unit, doesn't it?
10:30 <Cepheid> As in, X watts per second.
10:30 <Finwe> 1 W = 1 J/s.
10:31 <Finwe> Watts per second would be the second time derivative of energy.
10:31 <Cepheid> Joules being the amount of energy, or capacity, depending on context.
10:32 <Cepheid> I say depending on the context, because one can say "1000 joules of storage" to indicate capacity, while one can also say "1000 joules of energy" or "1000 joules" alone to state energy.
10:32 <Finwe> Anyways, that's why especially in energy production the unit of energy quite often used is megawatthour.
10:32 <ConfusionRift> ...is that why when it comes to energy consumption it's classified as watts, and when it's stored it's classified as joules? In the context of the game.
10:33 <Cepheid> Yes.
10:33 <Cepheid> Because in the case of wattage, that's how much we're producing each second.
10:33 <Cepheid> While when it's dealing with steam tanks or accumulators, it's joules.
10:33 <Cepheid> Because they're storing power.
10:33 <Finwe> ConfusionRift: Yes, watts indicate the rate of energy consumption or production.
10:34 <Cepheid> ^
10:34 <ConfusionRift> Hmmm... I'm an idiot.
10:34 <Cepheid> Nah.
10:34 <Cepheid> It's not immediately obvious.
10:34 <Cepheid> There's a lot of terms in electricity.
10:34 <Finwe> If you have 10 MWh of energy, you know that you can draw 10 MW of power for 10 hours.
10:34 <Cepheid> Wattage, current, voltage, joules, etc, etc, etc.
10:34 <AppleDash> Finwe: One of those 10s needs to be a 1 :P
10:35 <Finwe> AppleDash: Yes.
10:35 <Finwe> 1 MW of energy for 10 hours.
10:36 <Finwe> This being equal to 36 GJ and 1 W for 36,000,000,000 seconds.
10:36 <ConfusionRift> For the longest time, I thought watts and joules had no correlation or were a completely different denomination of sorts. But now I'm a bit more sure.
10:36 <Cepheid> So my above system generates 2.3GWm, or 2.3 gigawatt minutes. For two minutes.
10:36 <Cepheid> Why would I need this?
10:37 <Cepheid> Space Exploration has these things called Coronal Mass Ejections.
10:37 <Cepheid> They last 2 minutes, and at their peak, draw insane amounts of power.
10:37 <Cepheid> For Nauvis, the starting planet, this is fixed at 2.28GW.
10:37 <Cepheid> If you cannot generate 2.28GW of power, well, your base is gonna be hit by laser beams.
10:37 <Finwe> *batang*
10:38 <Cepheid> We lost part of uranium processing during the last one.
10:38 <Cepheid> So, that large battery is enough to generate at least 2.3GW of power for 2 minutes.
10:39 <Cepheid> How the hell you can store 500C steam indefinitely, I don't want to know, but it being a game, I'm just gonna nod my head and thank the devs for never implementing heat radiation.
10:39 <Cepheid> It's better than using accumulators. A single accumulator holds 5MJ of power. A single tank full of 500C steam meanwhile, holds 2.425GJ.
10:40 <Finwe> If you can completely insulate it from the environment there's not going to be any enegy loss.
10:40 <Finwe> Cepheid: 5 MJ of _energy_.
10:40 <Cepheid> Fine, fine.
10:40 <Cepheid> My point is, a steam tank stores a lot more energy than an accumulator.
10:41 <Cepheid> As for why even use accumulators? They're good for small storage buffers.
10:41 <Ali> I turned off SE cause the game updated to 1.1.8. Wasn't sure if the server would've updated that fast
10:41 <Cepheid> I haven't updated it yet, and I'm not sure I should.
10:41 <Ali> Its fine, don't need to rush with the HM demo out
10:41 <Ali> MH not HM
10:41 <Finwe> Hennes & Mauritz
10:43 <Cepheid> Basically, the difference between accumulators and steam tanks: Steam tanks require piping, and also a source of steam to begin with. They also need a steam turbine or steam engine. as a result, a typical setup takes up a large amount of space. An accumulator, meanwhile, is 2x2, and can be hooked into the power system next to the object that requires a temporary burst of energy when it activates.
10:43 <Cepheid> Hence why accumulators still exist.
10:43 <Cepheid> They're good for lazor defenses. o3o
10:44 <Lumindia_> Accumulators are basically big batteries that can release big bursts of power when needed, yeah?
10:44 <Lumindia_> or otherwise just big batteries
10:44 <Lumindia_> at least if I'm remembering my time in factorio correctly
10:45 <Cepheid> Yep.
10:46 <Cepheid> But you can create something similar with even larger capacity by using a fluid tank and a turbine or steam engine.
10:46 * Ali boops Lumindia_ and carrys them away with a logic bot.
10:46 <Finwe> Lumindia_: Batteries are a special case of accumulator.
10:46 <Cepheid> 500C steam stored in a single fluid tank stores 2.425GJ, instead of 5MJ in an accumulator.
10:46 <Cepheid> 165C steam for steam engines is 750MJ, but still.
10:46 <Finwe> Steam tanks are also accumulators.
10:47 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.
10:47 <Cepheid> Much larger capacity, but more setup required to use them.
10:47 <Cepheid> On the other hand, they make a good way to transmit power long distances via train.
10:47 <Finwe> One could say that an accumulator is almost any energy storage device.
10:48 <Cepheid> You can transmit it by filling up a fluid wagon on a train at one location, and then send the train on it's way to a far away destination, and unload the steam at the destination.
10:48 <Cepheid> Provided you're not using like, 2.425GJ in a few seconds, it'll last quite a long time.
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10:49 <Cepheid> Hey Razor.
10:50 <Cepheid> So, I have a quick question for ya.
10:50 <RazorSharpFang> Hey heys.
10:50 <Finwe> Mr 'Fang.
10:50 <Cepheid> Why did we use electric boilers?
10:50 * Finwe doffs his hat.
10:50 <RazorSharpFang> So we can take advantage of our solar power without polluting.
10:50 <Cepheid> We could have set up a small nuclear system, or just hooked up those tanks to the nuclear system.
10:50 <Lumindia_> so basically anything used to store energy is an accumulator, regardless of the form it takes?
10:50 <Cepheid> Oh, right.
10:50 <Cepheid> Lumindia_: More or less.
10:50 <Finwe> Lumindia_: Yes.
10:50 <Lumindia_> neat
10:50 <Cepheid> Accumulators are basically rechargeable batteries. Like this pack I have here in my hand.
10:51 <Finwe> You could e.g. pump water up to mountains and then let it run through a turbine.
10:51 <Cepheid> Now, this is the thing that annoys me. See, stored power is in joules, right?
10:51 <Finwe> That's how they green-wash nuclear energy in Switzerland.
10:51 <Cepheid> All batteries I've seen in the real world use Ah or Amp Hours.
10:52 <RazorSharpFang> That's for ease of calc for a given voltage.
10:52 <Lumindia_> yeah, but aren't those strictly electric batteries using that?
10:52 <Cepheid> Ah.
10:52 <Finwe> They buy cheap nuclear energy from Germany, convert it to hydroelectricity and sell it back to Germany.
10:52 <Cepheid> Doesn't that waste energy, Finwe?
10:52 <Cepheid> Pumping water up a mountain takes energy.
10:52 <Finwe> Yes, there are always transfer losses and what not.
10:53 <Cepheid> So, why do it?
10:53 <Finwe> For profit, of course.
10:53 <RazorSharpFang> Arbitrage probably
10:53 <RazorSharpFang> Buy it cheap, sell it for a profit at a different time.
10:53 <Finwe> Thre price for hydroelectricity is higher than for nuclear power.
10:53 <Cepheid> ...
10:53 <Cepheid> Wow.
10:54 <Cepheid> So, abusing the low intelligence of the people in charge, then?
10:54 <RazorSharpFang> Part of why is that hydro can increase or decrease supply instantaneously. Nuclear not so much.
10:54 <RazorSharpFang> Peaking verses Base load
10:54 <Cepheid> Oooh.
10:54 <Cepheid> Wait, they're using it as a battery?
10:54 <RazorSharpFang> Part of Grid Stability
10:54 <Finwe> More like abusing the majority of Germans being opposed to nuclear power.
10:54 <Cepheid> That'd make more sense.
10:54 <Cepheid> And it's kinda what we're doing in the game.
10:55 <Cepheid> We're using electric boilers to generate steam at 90% efficiency to charge our battery tanks, rather than using coal, fuel, or some other polluting method.
10:55 <Cepheid> Nuclear is, in the game, treated as a nearly-clean energy source.
10:56 <RazorSharpFang> During the day, we're on 99% solar right now.
10:56 <Cepheid> There's pollution in mining and processing, but you can reduce the pollution to miniscule levels, and the amount of energy acquired back far exceeds the cost of pollution.
10:56 <Cepheid> A single U-235 unit gets you 10 fuel cells, and 10 fuel cells runs for 80 minutes, and is enough to generate a vast quantity of power.
10:57 <Cepheid> Which results in a ratio of electricity to pollution far, FAR greater than that of say, using a typical boiler-steam engine setup.
10:58 <Cepheid> That said, once we get to space, things will change.
10:58 <Cepheid> Solar powre up there is far more powerful.
10:58 <Cepheid> Between orbits and space having 50% light 24/7, the closer to the star you get, the greater the efficiency.
10:58 <Cepheid> And with the right technology, you can beam that energy to the surface of a planet for use.
10:59 <Cepheid> And making that more interesting is that you can beam it down in one of two ways.
10:59 <Finwe> Is "powre" the British equivalent of "power"? o3o?
10:59 <Cepheid> No.
10:59 <Cepheid> Just me typing too fast.
10:59 <Finwe> It could be.
11:00 <Cepheid> The two ways to beam power down: Either as a beam directed at a collector, or a beam directed at the bugs.
11:00 <Finwe> The Queen: "This sceptre is a symbol of my powre."
11:00 <Cepheid> Also, by the way, RazorSharpFang, Ali? We're almost ready for space.
11:01 <Ali> Weeeeee
11:01 * Finwe noms on Ali's space fleet.
11:02 * Ali shoots Finwe with Nids! Cause their update today was meaningless
11:02 <Ali> A big old one paragraph change to their rules that had NO DUH written all over it
11:03 * Finwe patpats Ali.
11:04 <Finwe> Så kan det gå.
11:04 * Ali baps Finwe's english button
11:05 <Finwe> It's almost the same.
11:05 <Finwe> Mutually intelligible all the way to the 15th century or so.
11:19 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #2169 [ https://tinyurl.com/y6cheq8h ]
11:21 * Cepheid tries to see if she can catch Earendel on Discord, since it seems they allow people to contribute to Space Exploration if they are programmers.
11:23 <ConfusionRift> Oh... I was missing two familiars. Hmm.
11:26 <Finwe> Eärendil the Mariner o3o
11:32 <Cepheid> Where's the name from? It seems like it's a fantasy name, possibly Lord of the Rings.
11:33 <Finwe> It's from Silmarillion.
11:33 <Finwe> Quite close.
11:35 <Finwe> Eärendil was the half-elf who sailed to Valinor to appeal for the people of Middle-Earth against Morgoth's terror.
11:36 <Finwe> The former vala Melkor, not the balrog Morgoth.
11:36 * Finwe knows his Tolkien lore.
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11:41 <Lumindia_> Segþv mer þat, Fjölsviþr! Hvart ſe vapna nockvt þat er knegi Viþofnir for Hníga á heljar ſjót?“ Hæva-teinn heitir hann; Enn hann gerþi Loptr Rúinn Fyr ná-grindor neþan, I ſæg iárnkeri liggr han Hia Sin-mörv; Oc halda njarþ-láſar nío.
11:43 <Finwe> Old Norse. o3o
11:47 <Finwe> Say more that, Fjölsvidur! Whither the weapon ? that he ? Vithofnir for Hníge on ?. Hæva-teinn is he called, Yet he fenced? Lotr Rúinn Fyr ? beneath, you say ? lies he Hia Sin-mörv, and hold ?
12:03 <Lumindia_> "Tell me, Fiölsvith! etc. whether there be any weapon, before which Vidofnir may fall to Hel´s abode? Hævatein the twig is named, and Lopt plucked it, down by the gate of Death. In an iron chest it lies with Sinmoera, and is with nine strong locks secured."
12:04 <Lumindia_> did you deipher that yourself?
12:05 * Lumindia_ places a pancake on Finwe's face
12:05 <Lumindia_> a friend was asking about the origins of Laevateinn
12:13 <Finwe> Lumindia_: Yes.
12:13 <Finwe> My mother tongue is (modern) Swedish.
12:13 <Lumindia_> that's impressive you got that much
12:14 <Lumindia_> I'm guessing modern swedish has roots in old norse?
12:14 <Finwe> All the North Germanic languages do.
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12:14 <Lumindia_> ever listen to a band named "Tyr"?
12:14 <Pony|83170> Привет\
12:15 <Pony|83170> пишите на русском пж!
12:15 <Lumindia_> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY9dSTNJe7I
12:15 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
12:15 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Hel Hath No Fury
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12:16 <Finwe> But Swedish is in the eastern branch together with Danish, while Norwegian, Icelandic and Faroese are in the western branch.
12:16 <Finwe> Lumindia_: No, I havn't.
12:17 <Finwe> I've listened to Wardruna, though.
12:31 * Schism listens to Led Zeppelin - The Battle of Evermore. o3o
12:32 <Cepheid> RazorSharpFang, https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/aspnet/core/fundamentals/localization?view=aspnetcore-5.0
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12:43 * Schism grumbl. "Hungry." But she needs to fast.
12:44 <ConfusionRift> Urgh... just need one last familiar and I would basically have every item.
12:49 <ConfusionRift> Ooooh. (bleep) that. I hate things locked via RNG.
12:59 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: EQG-inspired Album: Skyshard - Cloud Seeker [Electronic] [ https://tinyurl.com/yypru8gp ]
13:01 <Cepheid> Finwe, physics question for ya.
13:02 <Cepheid> Assuming geostationary orbit around Earth, if we constructed a structure such that it didn't fall towards the Earth, would the gravity still be strong enough to hold items down on the "floor" of the structure?
13:03 <Cepheid> I'm assuming it would.
13:03 <Cepheid> If it was enough to pull a station down, it'd be enough to hold items down.
13:03 <Cepheid> They'd just weigh less due to the difference in gravity.
13:03 <RazorSharpFang> That "less weight" might be 90% reduction or more
13:04 <RazorSharpFang> The idea is that the ship itself is falling. Relative to the falling ship, you're not falling much if at all.
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13:15 <Finwe> Cepheid: Not really.
13:16 <Finwe> The obejects would be on geostationary orbit as well, so if you'd lift something "up" it would not "fall".
13:18 <Cepheid> Ah, yeah.
13:28 * Schism wanders in from her shower now. "Ugh. Hello, nosebleed.
13:28 <Schism> No, no need to poke me with a needle for today's test, just hook a tube right up to my nose.
13:29 * Finwe has already poked himself with a needle today.
13:29 * Schism is about to do the same. But that's not quite the same thing as phlebotomy.
13:29 <Finwe> Spent my daily allowance on 12 IU of Lantus. o3o
13:30 <Finwe> The need to take some Fiasp might arise later on.
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14:30 <Cyan_Spark> Razor the investor
14:32 <Thrakerzod> Evening.
14:32 <Thrakerzod> Oh, I must have disconnected
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14:32 * Schism hums, and provides the fake Sweetie Belle with a Cthulhu-burger.
14:33 <Schism> Anyhoo. To the lab I go... bloodwork needs must be done. And then afterwards, I might make myself a big pot of macaroni.
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15:00 <Cyan_Spark> I am now a proud holder of platinum
15:00 <LibrarianofHope> star platinum?
15:00 * LibrarianofHope ora oras a bunch
15:01 <Cyan_Spark> Nah, the stock
15:01 <Cyan_Spark> Platinum trust
15:01 <Cyan_Spark> I can't /actually/ buy platinum
15:01 <LibrarianofHope> still sounds like a stand
15:02 <LibrarianofHope> jojo reference
15:06 <Cyan_Spark> Apparently when I sell a stock my broker sees fit to cling on to it for T+2 days :v
15:07 <Cyan_Spark> And I can't do anything with it
15:07 <Cyan_Spark> Absolutely unbelievable
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15:10 <RazorSharpFang> Sad indeed, Cyan_Spark
15:22 <RazorSharpFang> Tesla at 870 now. The heck.
15:22 <Cyan_Spark> lol
15:23 <LibrarianofHope> stocks are too unpredictable to my undestanding
15:24 <RazorSharpFang> That is literally the point in options.
15:25 <LibrarianofHope> i dont undestand enough to make an educated opinion
15:26 * LibrarianofHope bonks razorsharpfang , cuase stonks
15:26 * RazorSharpFang bonks LibrarianofHope back "I'm primarily an options trader, not a stock trader"
15:27 <LibrarianofHope> whats the difference?
15:27 <Cyan_Spark> I'm a stock trader by limitation :P
15:27 <RazorSharpFang> Options are contracts. Stocks are equities.
15:27 <LibrarianofHope> what are equities?
15:28 <RazorSharpFang> Equities are financial objects that have value and do not expire. Like shares of a company, or bonds (maturation is not expiration).
15:28 <LibrarianofHope> ahh
15:29 <LibrarianofHope> and contracts in this context?
15:29 <RazorSharpFang> An agreement to buy or sell a particular equity at a given agreed upon price at or before the contract expiration date.
15:30 <LibrarianofHope> that i can undestand
15:30 <LibrarianofHope> its like another level of complexity to the system no?
15:30 <RazorSharpFang> Yes. Options have a target called an "underlying" which is usually an Equity
15:31 <LibrarianofHope> if my reasearch is right, crashes can happen when the complexity level gets too high no?
15:31 <LibrarianofHope> like the 2008 crash?
15:32 <RazorSharpFang> The 2008 crash was primarily due to fraud in my opinion.
15:33 <LibrarianofHope> as i undestanf it the 3a house bounf thing got too complex, and no one really checked how things were built
15:33 <LibrarianofHope> less of fraud and more of laziness?
15:33 <RazorSharpFang> The credit rating institutions were not actually doing their job and slapping AAA on everything. They were being paid well to do this.
15:33 <LibrarianofHope> that too
15:34 <RazorSharpFang> That was the primary factor. There wouldn't have been this huge crash if it had the "impossible to go under" rating.
15:34 <RazorSharpFang> Everyone was of the opinion that there was no risk to these positions. They were being lied to.
15:34 <LibrarianofHope> i find the human elment of this situations very fascinating
15:35 <RazorSharpFang> I think it's immoral to deliberately and knowingly speak false things that you know to be false for financial gain.
15:35 <LibrarianofHope> thats speaks excellent of you
16:11 <Heartbreak> More Banana Chocolate Chip Muffins!
16:11 <Heartbreak> !muffin
16:11 <DerpyBot> Muffins!! You have any? :3
16:11 <Heartbreak> yes.
16:11 <DerpyBot> Thank you!!
16:11 * DerpyBot glomps Heartbreak
16:11 <Heartbreak> Gaaaah...
16:11 <Heartbreak> Watchitderpy...
16:13 <LibrarianofHope> HB! good morning
16:13 * Schism provides HB with a cup of quali-tea, served in a cup with a hook.
16:14 <LibrarianofHope> weird cup
16:16 <LibrarianofHope> i got another rating on my novel
16:17 <LibrarianofHope> 5 stars, neat!
16:17 <LibrarianofHope> i just odnt know who did it owo
16:28 <LibrarianofHope> but progress! yay
16:28 * LibrarianofHope bonks Heartbreak in celebration
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16:38 * Schism shakes her head. "How stupid do you have to be to give yourself a heart attack by the expedient method of tasing your own genitalia?"
16:39 <LibrarianofHope> murica
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17:04 <Cepheid> Got the TV replaced. New one is flawless.
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17:15 <ADragonDreaming> excellent
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17:21 <Cepheid> Man, this Rise demo is limited as hell. I wonder if Nintendo is responsible for it.
17:23 <Cepheid> They practically ported every major feature from World, and added an extremely Eastern artistic style to it.
17:25 <Cepheid> Gyroscope features are off by default.
17:25 <Cepheid> Good.
17:26 <Cepheid> It's used to control the camera.
17:27 <Cepheid> Sweet merciful heavens yes! They allow "show unread chat log messages" to be turned off.
17:29 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Episode Rewatch - Season 5 Episode 15-16 - Rarity Investigates! / Made in Manehattan [ https://tinyurl.com/yxkthjon ]
17:31 <Cepheid> Hmm.
17:31 <Cepheid> They got rid of one of my switch-axe attacks.
17:32 <Cepheid> They retained the sword combo completely. But I can't do the Forward Slash -> Overhead Swing -> Forward Slash -> Overhead Swing -> Repeat.
17:33 <Cepheid> I can however, emulate the basic concept by side jumping.
17:40 <Cepheid> Right, they got rid of the Clutch Beetles, but there's a good replacement for it.
17:40 <Cepheid> You now basically do a running wall climb, it's insanely fast.
18:29 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Vanhoover Pony Expo Convention This Weekend Online - Musicians, Voice Talent, and More Announced! [ https://tinyurl.com/y3vqetgd ]
18:45 <LibrarianofHope> i need a goobapalooza owo
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18:48 <Cepheid> I need painkillers.
18:49 <Cepheid> Gods, this headache.
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19:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Spike Day Arrives January 16th! [ https://tinyurl.com/y3hx7hdb ]
19:27 <Cepheid> Tylenol's helping.
19:39 <Cepheid> Man, I'd swear with the gold and emela I'm collecting in Ys 6, that I'm near the end of the game.
19:46 <LibrarianofHope> our lockdown got extended
19:46 <LibrarianofHope> no surprise there
19:47 <LibrarianofHope> i barely go out anyway
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19:58 <Cepheid> .... Really? Dogi? How do you keep ending up whe- And why do you keep busting down walls?
20:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic Series Credits / PMV - All That's Left Is Love [ https://tinyurl.com/yxn6549l ]
20:09 * Dappled chews on sticks!
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20:13 <LibrarianofHope> dappled!
20:13 <LibrarianofHope> hi
20:13 * LibrarianofHope gives usb stick
20:13 <Dappled> Hello.
20:13 * Dappled finds this stick to be weird as he chews on it.
20:55 <Cepheid> How nice. Ys 6 has thrown me against a boss I cannot injure.
20:55 <Cepheid> And I can't leave to grind.
20:56 <Dappled> That seems silly.
20:56 * Dappled chews on Ys.
20:57 <Cepheid> ... I'm not allowing myself to be locked out of finishing the game like this, especially so far in.
20:57 * Dappled opens up Cepheid's console commands.
20:58 <Cepheid> Yep.
21:02 <Cepheid> It's cheating, I admit, but...
21:02 <Cepheid> You know what's not fair? Locking a player out like that.
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21:08 <Cepheid> Or rather, making a boss that has a weakpoint so incredibly small that your chances of hitting it are 10% or lower.
21:08 <Cepheid> I was able to damage it, but it was entirely random as to whether it did more than 1 damage, and there was no consistent location to hurt it.
21:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Pony OC Music: Dark_Wind - Fall [Alternative Electronic] [ https://tinyurl.com/yxrptjww ]
21:15 * Dappled gets into places he shouldn't. Like the top cabinet where they try to hide the cookies from me.
21:18 <Cepheid> In any case, future saving is going to take place in like, every slot, and cycling around as necessary.
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21:21 * Dappled tries to figure out how to move steam installs for a couple games to the new harddrive cause I need the extra space for mods.
21:32 * Dappled also remembers that he as Pokemon Stadium 1 & 2 roms. Wonders if it's possible to pull his team from his gba roms and put them in the n64 ones.
21:33 <Cepheid> The device responsible for that has to be emulated.
21:33 <Cepheid> Although you could just hack the save file.
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21:34 <Dappled> Looks like yes, but it only works for Gen 1 and 2 games.
21:34 * Dappled glares at Pokemon Company to just make another Stadium already.
21:35 <Ali> They did, but it was awful
21:35 * Dappled isn't referring to Pokken.
21:35 * Ali throws Pokemon Revolution at Dappled
21:35 * Dappled wants Stadium 3.
21:35 <Cepheid> Hell, I can do it for you. I just need a couple of save files under certain conditions. The more files you give me, the better. Basically, start by creating a new file, with no 'mons. Send that to me. Next, add a 'mon to the save. Send THAT to me, with stats. Repeat again. Keep adding new 'mons, their stats, and send them my way.
21:35 <Cepheid> I'll be able to compare the files, and figure out the details.
21:36 * Dappled will keep that in mind for when he finishes his nuzlocke, but he doesn't have a file going for the natively supported games for Stadium 1 and 2.
21:37 <Dappled> Oh. there was a 3.
21:37 * Dappled sees that it was on the Wii U.
21:37 <Cepheid> That's a bit trickier to hack.
21:37 <Ali> Thought it was the WIi
21:38 <Cepheid> Especially with the advent of internet support in games, so there's likely some basic encryption.
21:38 * Dappled sees misinformation?
21:39 <Ali> Dappled, Pokemon Battle Revolution
21:39 <Ali> Wii game
21:40 * Dappled might as well just use Showdown.
21:40 * Ali also now has 1k hours in Factorio.. WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
21:41 <Ali> Only 200 behind Fallout 4
21:42 <Ali> And that game is on a no play list due to its I HATE SHOOTER BUILDS mechanics
21:42 <Cepheid> Longest game I have on record is...
21:42 <AppleDash> I don't even think I have 1k hours in every video game I've ever played combined
21:42 <Cepheid> MH:World, 575 hours.
21:42 <Cepheid> Factorio, 550.
21:43 <Cepheid> Games are my escape and coping mechanism for my mental illness, so...
21:43 * Dappled highest number in Steam is Elite Dangerous at 916 hours. But part of that is because it opens a launcher that it counts as running the game and I don't always remember to close it.
21:44 <AppleDash> Yeah, my listed time in CS:GO, the game I have played the most, is around 900 hours. But around 400 of those hours are me just accidentally leaving the game open in the background for days on end and not noticing since it is muted when tabbed out.
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21:45 * Dappled ignores Clicker Heroes cause game that encourages letting the game stay open, ES:O 430, but again, launcher.
21:45 * Golden now has a copy of Dragon Quest Nine
21:45 <Dappled> Fallout 4 at 419
21:46 * Ali needs to remember to have a lane balancer at the end of every major production line
21:47 <Ali> Cause gods alive I hate seeing the production area only working at 50% cause one side of the lane is getting the items taken from.
21:55 <Ali> Fallout 4, Motorsport Manager, and now Factorio are the games I have with over 1k hours in them
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21:59 <LibrarianofHope> Ali is an industralist tycoon
21:59 <LibrarianofHope> Ali is Cute Tycoon
21:59 * Ali baps LibrarianofHope
22:00 <LibrarianofHope> i am bapped by industrialism
22:00 <Golden> Hm
22:04 * Dappled plays Recettear. Capitalism ho!
22:06 * Schism somehow fails to pay off the first week.
22:06 * Cepheid switches to a different game for a bit.
22:07 * Dappled wants more games like Recettear.
22:07 * Dappled glares at Moonlighter. Why aren't you more fun?
22:07 <Finwe> o3o
22:08 <Schism> Game I think I've played the most on Steam... La*Mulana clocks in at 144 hours.
22:08 <Schism> Because randos!
22:08 <LibrarianofHope> havent really played in a while
22:08 <Finwe> Mlles Ali, Cepheid and Schism; Messrs AppleDash, Dappled, Golden and LibrarianofHope.
22:08 <Schism> Rabi-Ribi at 70h...
22:08 * Finwe doffs his hat.
22:08 * Schism waves to Finwe.
22:08 * Dappled waves.
22:08 <LibrarianofHope> last proper thing was mechanicus
22:08 <Cepheid> 107 hours here.
22:08 <Cepheid> But then, that's because I did that hard run with EIGHT HOUR DAYS OF FIGHTING ONE BOSS.
22:09 * LibrarianofHope gives the machine gods blessings to finwe
22:09 * Ali sits on Finwe 's tanks or planes or whatever warthunder does
22:09 <Schism> Rogue Legacy at 60 hours, SpaceChem at 70 hours.
22:09 <Schism> That is true... @_@
22:09 <Finwe> Tanks, planes and ships.
22:09 <Schism> Starbound, 512 hours. I think we have a winner.
22:09 <Finwe> I mostly play tanks.
22:09 <Dappled> My top 5 games, not counting launchers or idle, Fallout 4, Dark Souls 3, Terraria, Recettear, and Skyrim. With the smallest being 208 hrs.
22:10 <Schism> 468 hours of Skyrim, here.
22:11 <Schism> Factorio would count for more than 61 hours if I more regularly used the Steam launcher for it.
22:11 * Dappled sees talk of 1k hours... Must get his numbers up.
22:12 * Dappled really needs to move Skyrim and Fallout over to the new harddrive.
22:13 <Dappled> There we go.
22:13 * Dappled can has mods.
22:14 <Cepheid> Lesse...
22:14 <Cepheid> I was working on the Diablos Alpha+.
22:15 <Ali> Some games I only have 1k on cause I can obsess over it
22:15 <Ali> Motorsport Manager is a good one
22:15 <Ali> Fallout 4, most of my game time in that broken hot mess is the first 25 or so levels cause gunplay is not fair T.T
22:15 * Dappled saw some gameplay of Rise. Saw the ability to actually aim the bowguns. Is willing to buy it now.
22:16 <Cepheid> Monster Hunter's a special case.
22:16 <Dappled> Ali, that's why you build VATS. Always VATS. Nothing but VATS.
22:16 <Cepheid> Over the entire series, I've got more than a few thousand hours.
22:16 <Dappled> Aiming is for the weak.
22:16 <Ali> Dappled, the game hates snipers
22:16 <Cepheid> With respect to aiming bowguns, yeah, World improved aiming considerably.
22:16 <Dappled> Who says snipers?
22:17 * Dappled vats Pistols all the way.
22:17 <Ali> Dappled, its how I want to play
22:17 <Dappled> Mysterous Stranger~
22:17 <Ali> But the game is poorly designed for it
22:17 <Ali> Due to how many rifles are in the game, and the stupid restriction they put on having a silencer on them
22:17 * Dappled sees the word restriction.
22:17 * Dappled doesn't understand, installs mods.
22:18 <Schism> Meanwhile, as you wander through Minetown, you can get sniped all you want! </Fo3>
22:18 <Ali> I miss out on a 50% damage bonus cause I can't put a silencer onto a combat rifle until Lvl 37
22:19 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Dreamy Breakfast / Journey Home 2 / Movie Slate: Painting / Tainted Blessing 4 / Fashionably Finished [ https://tinyurl.com/y4jhmugo ]
22:32 <Cepheid> Dappled, there's an MH Rise demo, just so ye know.
22:32 * Dappled shall wait.
22:32 * Dappled has no idea how long he shall wait, but he shall wait.
22:32 <Cepheid> Fair enough.
22:32 * Dappled will buy though.
22:32 <Cepheid> Same.
22:32 * Dappled won't preorder though.
22:32 <Cepheid> And again, I'll set up a discord server for coordinating hunting assaults.
22:33 <Dappled> Oh, did you see if they brought back oils?
22:33 * Dappled will join up on the Discord since there's not going to be different console/pc to worry about this time.
22:33 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.
22:35 * Dappled desires the oil.
22:36 * Dappled shall cook the monster with the oil.
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22:41 <Cepheid> Hum. Let me check something then.
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22:43 <Cepheid> I am afraid to inform you that the demo either lacks oils, or they are not in Rise.
22:44 * Dappled pouts.
22:46 * Schism patpats, and offers Dappled some fire herb oil.
22:46 * Dappled eats the oil.
22:49 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3573 [ https://tinyurl.com/y4tuybg9 ]
22:49 * Dappled goes to get ready for work. TGIF and all that.
23:00 * Finwe noms on Ali's tail.
23:00 * Ali squeaks and flicks tail
23:00 <Finwe> !plot
23:00 <DerpyBot> *wigglewiggle*
23:00 <Finwe> *wigglewiggle*
23:02 <Schism> *wigglewiggle*
23:03 <Lumindia_> *wigglewiggle*
23:14 <Golden> So much wiggle
23:18 * Cepheid flops.
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23:33 * Finwe decides to visit the Shadow Thieves' guildhall.
23:38 <LibrarianofHope> sounds generic owo
23:39 <LibrarianofHope> althought i have a Hunter's Guidlhall, so owo
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23:44 <LibrarianofHope> trump got banned from twitter
23:44 <LibrarianofHope> owo
23:45 <Schism> Horse, barn door, etc, but it's about time.
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