Log archive of EquestriaDaily for Monday, 2021-03-08

00:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Community Soapbox - Equestrian Civil War, G4 Problems, Timeline of Pony, and More!  [ https://tinyurl.com/y9of7g67 ]

00:07 <Schism> "This ridiculous contraption will never fly." "It doesn't have to fly.  We just have to ride in it until it crashes." "Well, at least that sounds much more wait WHAT?!"

00:09 * Ali flops into the Schism

00:30 * Lumindia pats Ali

00:30 <Lumindia> <3

00:30 <Lumindia> How is Ali today>?

00:33 * Ali flumps into Lumindia and curls up on.

00:33 * Lumindia gently pats

00:33 * Lumindia offers some mac * cheese

00:33 <Lumindia> Mac & Cheese

00:38 <Schism> Scalzi calls us all out.  https://twitter.com/scalzi/status/1368719527861772294

00:56 * Dappled attempts to figure out what is Mac Times Cheese.

00:56 * Dappled guesses it's Spider Man.

00:56 <Dappled> Sorry. Spider-Man

00:56 <Dappled> the - is important.

00:57 <Schism> Well, time flies like an arrow.  Perhaps it's mac & cheese made of spear pasta.

01:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Say Something Nice About Rain Shine [ https://tinyurl.com/yb45xftk ]

01:09 * Dappled appears again. No longer hoards gold but instead seeks out lost cargo of sunk ships... To hoard more gold. But for him!

01:26 * Lumindia offers dappled some hot cocoa

01:26 * Dappled chugs!

01:43 * Dappled falls over.

01:48 <Dappled> https://external-preview.redd.it/AgyTvzsiNO8kjbedDfLX9EhXsyPWOQTNXIhRrz6Un7w.jpg?auto=webp&s=70cda21010cb2aa0e0d71d79e839f653e2d66376 Shark Cat

02:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #2455 [ https://tinyurl.com/yd3e9vmo ]

02:21 * Cepheid flops.

02:21 * Dappled agrees with this sentiment.

02:22 <Cepheid> I slept all of four hours.

02:29 * Dappled applies blanket and pillow. You need more sleep.

02:36 <Cepheid> I'm working on that, after eating and drinking water, I took some more sleeping meds.

03:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: G5 Music: SpinScissor - IN MOTION [Future Bass/Midtempo] [ https://tinyurl.com/y9ahmrxv ]

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04:46 <PinkieShy> I dunno why amazon is recommending me a pillow that looks like soft butter toast bread for..

04:46 <PinkieShy> I don't know about you but i would find it odd to wake up in the middle of night and find myself laying my head on something that looks like bread..

04:53 * PinkieShy clowns around a bit

05:01 <Finwe> Good morning, everypony!

05:02 <Finwe> Mlles Ali, Filly_Nightmares and Schism; Messrs Cepheid, Dappled, Lumindia and PinkieShy.

05:02 * Ali flops over Finwe

05:02 * Finwe dofs his hat.

05:05 * Finwe hugs an Ali.

05:08 * Ali curls into the Finwe hugs

05:13 * Dappled waves to Finwe.

05:17 <Finwe> Through the Looking Glass - A NYC Mystery: https://9gag.com/gag/av5Oz4q

05:18 * Finwe waves back to Dappled.

05:21 * Ali noms on Dappled ear

05:22 * Dappled stares at the Ali... Stares.... earflaps.

05:22 * Ali wonders why staring at her...

05:22 * Dappled must vary his responses to stimuli or be taken for a bot.

05:24 * Ali headtilts

05:24 * Dappled doesn't feel like responding in the same way every time. I could set up scripts if I wanted that. So more variation.

05:25 <Finwe> Ali is easy to reverse engineer. o3o

05:25 <Finwe> tailnom -> squeak

05:25 <Finwe> cute -> not cute

05:25 <Dappled> See? Like noms on ear -> earflaps.

05:25 <Dappled> Thus we need to add more variety.

05:26 * Dappled shall chew on things other than sticks.

05:26 <Finwe> Factorio -> fuss

05:26 * Dappled chews on slightly larger sticks.

05:26 * Ali hasn't touched Factorio in awhile now

05:31 <Finwe> That might explain the absence of fussing thereabouts.

05:31 <Finwe> o3o

05:31 <Finwe> Umm, "thereof".

05:32 * Dappled desires cat. Goes to find cat.

05:35 * Ali would go find cat, but they would just run away and claw her to death if caught

05:35 <Finwe> If you have a cat, I will give it to you. If you have no cat, I will take it away from you.

05:43 * Dappled had to cat that is sleeping. Did some dishes instead.

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05:57 * Surreal_Nightmares mleps

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06:06 <Finwe> Miss Surreal_Nightmares.

06:07 * Finwe doffs his hat.

06:10 * Surreal_Nightmares climbs onto head!

06:10 * Surreal_Nightmares eeee and noms Finwe ears

06:14 * Finwe ear-wiggles.

06:14 <Finwe> !plot

06:14 <DerpyBot> *wigglewiggle*

06:14 <Finwe> *wigglewiggle*

06:15 <Finwe> Ali: But you do have cats, right?

06:15 <Ali> Three of the little buggers

06:16 <Finwe> 🐈

06:16 <Finwe> I mean, 🐈🐈🐈

06:25 <PinkieShy> My sunday night so far: I'm currently trying to balance 3 plates of virtual pancakes on top of 2-3 cups of virtual glasses of beer.

06:25 * Ali boops Finwe to finish their sentence

06:25 <PinkieShy> xD

06:26 * Surreal_Nightmares snugglies into Ali tummy

06:27 * Ali pat pats the Surreal_Nightmares

06:27 * PinkieShy hands Surreal_Nightmares a virtual plate of pancakes

06:31 <Finwe> Ali: Finish? With three cats, it's finished and perferct.

06:32 * Surreal_Nightmares eeeee and rolls around!

06:32 * Surreal_Nightmares skreesplodes!

06:50 * Finwe ruffles Surreal_Nightmares.

06:50 * Surreal_Nightmares murrr and melts!

07:02 <Dappled> You ever just like... Rub a cats belly. Cause it's right there. And it's so fluffy.

07:02 * Dappled doesn't get murdered by kitty.

07:04 <Finwe> Some cats insta-claw you upon touching their abdominal area.

07:06 <Koopz> RAdm. Finwe o7

07:07 <Finwe> Capt Koopz.

07:07 <Finwe> o7

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07:09 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.

07:09 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift.

07:09 <Finwe> o7

07:10 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)

07:14 * Dappled waves.

07:15 * ConfusionRift wavies back.

07:19 * Surreal_Nightmares kneads Dappled belly

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07:24 * Finwe thoughtfully noms on Ali's tail.

08:06 <ConfusionRift> Okay... why is Twitter absorbing 2GB of memory?

08:16 <Ali> Cause Twitter

08:17 <Ali> That or they're fact checking your entire computer

08:22 * Finwe boops Ali.

08:22 <ConfusionRift> "Wait... the hell is this?" | What? | "What... why do you have games on a drive... and shortcuts to another? Wait... why do you have some files organized on folders, and others in the main folder just scattered? Why do you have 12TB?! WHO ARCHIVES THIS MUCH?!" | Yes. | "That's not an answer." | It is if I want it to be. | "No, you can't... whatever I'm out bye."

08:22 * Ali passes out

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08:44 <Golden> Just beat Stormblood on FFXIV

08:45 <ConfusionRift> Be right back really quick.

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08:51 <ConfusionRift> Alrighty. Back.

08:54 <Finwe> Mr Golden.

08:54 * Finwe doffs his skiing cap.

08:55 <Golden> Yo

09:20 * Dappled chews on sticks.

09:41 <Lumindia> please end me, I don't know why I'm awake this early?

09:45 <Dappled> Because you wanted to hang out with your friends?

09:54 * Lumindia flops against Dappled

09:59 * Dappled brushies.

10:30 <Lumindia> I've been up since 4 AM, send either energy drinks or sleep aids

11:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #2227 [ https://tinyurl.com/ybjwufav ]

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12:12 * Lumindia yawns, offers angie pancakes

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12:41 <Schism> Golden: Now, of course, you get to play the NEXT Hildibrand questline!

12:48 * ConfusionRift flops to sleep.

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13:02 * Lumindia chews on Golden

13:04 * Finwe noms on pasta in lentil and tomato sauce.

13:05 <Finwe> Also with some carrots and celery.

13:05 <Finwe> And garlic and onions.

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13:22 <Finwe> Miss Angeline.

13:23 * Finwe doffs his hat and offers some lentil pasta to Angeline.

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14:29 <Lumindia> .... BurgerKingUK, you screwed up BIG TIME

14:33 <RazorSharpFang> Again?

14:36 <Cepheid> What'd they do?

14:43 <Lumindia> https://twitter.com/BurgerKingUK/status/1368849338596745223

14:44 <Lumindia> let that sink in for a bit

14:44 <Cepheid> Another day, another Intel CPU vulnerability.

14:44 <Cepheid> ...

14:44 <Cepheid> Oh gods.

14:44 <Cepheid> Burger King UK, what the f-

14:44 <Lumindia> yeeeaahh.

14:45 <Lumindia> they screwed up BIG TIME...

14:45 <Lumindia> I mean.. you can see the message they were TRYING to get across... and I guess someone in marketing decided a click-bait title with shock value would get attention

14:45 <Lumindia> and it did... but you know how the internet ise

14:46 <RazorSharpFang> I can only see this going well

14:46 <Lumindia> Most of them will only see that first tweet, and not any of the actual positive stuff that are in the replies

14:46 <Cepheid> I wouldn't have read past the title, because the intended message they were trying to get across means little once you use that title as a shock, click bait thing.

14:46 <RazorSharpFang> "Penguins are going extinct! ... eventually, if we don't stop climate change"

14:46 <Cepheid> The rest just feels like backpeddling to avoid backlash after that.

14:48 <Cepheid> So let's see what this new vuln is.

14:49 <Cepheid> Side-channel attack on the ring interconnect between CPU cores.

14:50 <Cepheid> Reasonably fast one, too, 4Mbps.

14:50 <Finwe> RazorSharpFang: Well, dinosaurs were supposed to be extinct, then further research showed that birds are actually dinosaurs.

15:52 <Schism> Bother...

15:52 <Schism> Oh yeah, Burger King UK, that's...

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15:54 <RazorSharpFang> I'm sure that was the right decision to make.

15:54 <LibrarianofHope> hiii

15:54 <LibrarianofHope> i have no more covid

15:54 <RazorSharpFang> Hurray

15:54 <LibrarianofHope> i even got antibodies owo

15:55 <RazorSharpFang> Celebrate by buying shares of this stock that I'm invested in.

15:55 <LibrarianofHope> nuuu

15:56 <LibrarianofHope> i dont like stock stuff

15:57 * Schism offers LibrarianofHope some chicken stock.

15:58 <RazorSharpFang> I remember I celebrated my 18th Birthday by applying for a brokerage account, and buying shares of my bank on the exchange.

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16:00 <Lumindia> ...

16:00 <Lumindia> man you started early

16:00 <RazorSharpFang> I sold them later for a good profit.

16:00 <LibrarianofHope> wut?

16:00 <LibrarianofHope> HH

16:01 <LibrarianofHope> hh?

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16:03 <RazorSharpFang> Shortly after I made some term-deposits, back when the interest rate was higher.

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16:38 <LibrarianofHope> Nitrothefurry

16:38 <LibrarianofHope> you are glitching

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16:41 <NitroTheFurry> No, just dc'ing from switching between data and wifi

16:41 <LibrarianofHope> ahh

16:41 <LibrarianofHope> same diferrence

16:42 <LibrarianofHope> you are dancing in and out

16:42 * LibrarianofHope dances with nitro

16:42 * NitroTheFurry dances with LibrarianofHope

17:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Fanfiction: Music is the BEST! [ https://tinyurl.com/y9sekm2l ]

17:40 <Cepheid> So, buncha monsters announced for Rise.

17:57 <Cepheid> Looks like I'll be getting vaccinated in April.

17:58 <Schism> Jealous, but you are _way_ in the high-risk zone.

18:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Nerding Out / Signing Off 73 / Shadows 79 / Future 58 [ https://tinyurl.com/ydf5j8f9 ]

18:03 <LibrarianofHope> i have the antibodies now, so im good for a while

18:03 <Cepheid> Schism, you should be getting it in April too.

18:03 <Cepheid> The reason I'm on the list is diabetes.

18:04 <Schism> Interesting.  I'll speak with my GP on Wednesday then.

18:04 * Schism noms upon a plate of chili with a fried egg.

18:04 <Cepheid> Apparently it was announced last night or sometime in the last week, according to my parents.  People with high risk conditions will start getting it in April.

18:04 <Schism> Well, bowl.  And hmm.  o3o

18:04 <Cepheid> Since I'm diabetic, earliest I'll see it is April.

18:05 <Cepheid> That said, I'm sure my breathing troubles really contribute too.

18:05 <Cepheid> Fortunately as of late, all I've had is a minor cold.  Which is being dealt with via cough syrup.

18:07 <LibrarianofHope> are antibodies permanent?

18:07 <LibrarianofHope> i have no idea

18:07 <Cepheid> I don't think they are.

18:08 <Cepheid> Though, they should be, because that's what the vaccine results in.

18:08 <LibrarianofHope> im sure i developed some

18:08 <Cepheid> A vaccine is a deadened/weakened virus such that it has minor effect on the host, but it still allows the host to develop antibodies to it.

18:08 <LibrarianofHope> umm

18:09 <Cepheid> What?

18:09 <LibrarianofHope> im still getting vacinated, but i should be safe now

18:09 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.

18:09 <Cepheid> Not saying you weren't.  Just commenting.

18:12 <Cepheid> Okay, palindrome checker in C/C++ is pretty straightforward.

18:12 <Cepheid> But implementing it in a parallel manner?  Gah.

18:12 <Cepheid> I managed it, but GAH.

18:13 <Cepheid> Recursive-parallel at that.

18:14 <Cepheid> There's an alternative solution, but it explicitly had to be recursive.

18:17 * Finwe updates to Linux 5.11.2.

18:21 <Cepheid> Meanwhile I'm trying my best to figure out what's happening with my laptop when it's below 20% power.  One person I spoke to suggested it's a case of the battery not supplying enough power to the CPU.

18:23 <Cepheid> In which case I'm not sure there's much I can do.

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18:48 <LibrarianofHope> im researchig the old monster and the foundation owo

18:48 <LibrarianofHope> monsters

18:49 <LibrarianofHope> slenderman really did disaparread

18:49 <Finwe> Messrs Cepheid, LibrarianofHope and PinkieShy.

18:49 * Finwe doffs his hat.

18:49 <Cepheid> Finwe.

18:50 * LibrarianofHope doffs cepheid

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18:52 <LibrarianofHope> i never been quite able to express the idea of an SCP type of monster, and also present an heroic situation where they can be understood and destroyed

18:53 <LibrarianofHope> cause if you make a really monstrous problem, then the heroes are overpowered to kill it

18:54 <Cepheid> This is one thing I hate in comp sci.

18:54 <Cepheid> In comp sci, we differentiate the logarithm and natural logarithm in a stupid way.

18:55 <Cepheid> Actually it's even worse.

18:55 <LibrarianofHope> math is heresy

18:55 * LibrarianofHope bonks finwem cause math boi

18:55 <Cepheid> It's the distinction between logarithm base 10, and logarithm base 2.

18:55 <Cepheid> We define log n as base 10, lg n as base 2.

18:56 <PinkieShy> I dunno if i said it here before

18:56 <Finwe> ln is the natural logarithm, lg should be base 10 and log generic.

18:56 <Finwe> At least according to the conventions we use here.

18:56 <PinkieShy> But the governor of south carolina removing the rule makings mandatory insiide restaurants is stupid!

18:57 <PinkieShy> Seriously read an article about that yesterday and said that it means staff and customers doesn't have to wear a mask now if they don't want to..

18:57 <Cepheid> Finwe:  Here, log n = base 10, lg n = base 2.

18:58 <Cepheid> Notice that it's lg, not ln.

18:58 <Cepheid> As in, it's log without the o, it's something else entirely from ln.

18:58 * LibrarianofHope polishes pinkie shy

18:58 <LibrarianofHope> the usa has a weird problem with masks

18:58 <LibrarianofHope> you should make using masks illegal

18:59 <LibrarianofHope> so antimaskers wear them owo

18:59 <LibrarianofHope> reverse pshycology

18:59 <PinkieShy> LibrarianofHope you telling me.. Like seriously what's the issue with a mandate on masks to protect lives!

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18:59 <Finwe> Lt Pony|99830-

18:59 <Finwe> o7

19:00 * Pony|99830 wave.

19:00 <LibrarianofHope> its a mix of conspiracy thinking , the human need for a narrative and just being contrarian

19:01 <Finwe> If it doesn't matter then you would just write log.

19:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3628 [ https://tinyurl.com/ya8gnd2c ]

19:05 <Finwe> They're all the same function save a constant factor.

19:11 * LibrarianofHope polishes finwe to rob the secrets of maths and fancy stuff

19:12 <Cepheid> Right then, now to clean this up, and submit.

19:14 <Finwe> To what?

19:14 <Cepheid> It's assignment work.

19:15 <Finwe> Ah.

19:30 <LibrarianofHope> i need to take blood samples owo

19:30 <LibrarianofHope> for antobody test

19:31 <LibrarianofHope> i hate getting blood drawn

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19:42 <LibrarianofHope> derp

19:42 <DerpyBot> *derp*

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19:49 <PinkieShy> derp

19:49 <PinkieShy> :D

19:49 <LibrarianofHope> we must derp

19:49 <LibrarianofHope> its is necesarry

19:49 <LibrarianofHope> its is womans day

19:50 <LibrarianofHope> congratulations schism and cepheid

19:50 <Cepheid> Thanks.

19:50 <LibrarianofHope> and ali when she arrives

19:50 <LibrarianofHope> these are the only girls im sure of

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19:53 <Cepheid> Aaand assignment submitted.  Not expecting a decent mark for this one.

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20:01 <LibrarianofHope> glim glam

20:01 * LibrarianofHope glomps glim glam

20:02 * Starlight_Glimmer sits on LibrarianofHope

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20:10 * Ali sits on Starlight_Glimmer

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20:11 * Starlight_Glimmer snuzzles Ali

20:24 <Schism> WTF is with today...

20:25 * Ali ponyshrugs and snugs on the Schism wiff Starlight_Glimmer

20:31 <Finwe> Mlles Ali and Angeline.

20:31 * Finwe doffs his hat.

20:32 <Finwe> Mr Starlight_Glimmer.

20:32 * Finwe redoffs his hat.

20:35 <LibrarianofHope> Ali!

20:35 <LibrarianofHope> happy girl day

20:36 * LibrarianofHope thorws glim glam at ali

20:36 <LibrarianofHope> have a glim glam

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21:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Scootertrix the Epilogue: Twilight's Punishment [ https://tinyurl.com/y6vgtqpf ]

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21:49 <Cepheid> That's... an interesting hacking scenario.

21:50 <Cepheid> Someone's account got hacked, was renamed and rebranded in the name and form of another twitter account of someone who promoted bitcoin, and then started spam-retweeting tweets that promoted bitcoin.  Also retweeting the other account's tweets.

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22:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Community Soapbox - Major Villains Winning #3, FiM's Maturity, and G5 Setting [ https://tinyurl.com/ya43go9z ]

22:09 <Schism> "Could you send me a free pair of shoes?" "No, but we do have a Picasso, a Model T, and an IBM 5100." "Really?" "No."

22:11 <Cepheid> This is interesting.

22:11 <Cepheid> I'm not attending my Japanese classes anymore, as they are causing me an inordinate amount of stress from a combination of not being able to properly follow along in practice(When other people start talking, it disrupts my train of thought terribly), and in general the rapid pace of the course.

22:12 <Cepheid> But I still intend to study and do the course material.  What's interesting is I've actually started putting more effort into it now.

22:15 <Schism> That's not too strange.

22:16 <Schism> A classroom environment, even a virtual one, can be incredibly disruptive to a person's learning.  

22:16 <Cepheid> Yeah, but prior to this decision I didn't really read the textbook as much  as I should have.

22:16 <Cepheid> I honestly still think I'm geared towards self-learning.

22:17 <Schism> Sounds about right.  And there are a LOT of reasons, it's not just one, wherein a classroom and structured environ doesn't work out as well as other options.  Like, as you said, stress.

22:18 <Cepheid> Interestingly a lot of the stress originates from hearing other students do better than me.  Or, I think better than me.

22:18 <Cepheid> It creates this opinion that clearly I'm not doing ENOUGH.

22:18 <Cepheid> Which in this case is actually true.

22:18 <Schism> Maybe other students being more _involved_ in the classroom.

22:19 <Schism> Either way, when you're comparing yourself, and overthinking that... you're putting time and energy into things which aren't learning.

22:20 <Cepheid> True.  But I do have issues outside the classroom that need to be dealt with to.  I just find it interesting that only NOW I'm not having trouble focusing on doing the stuff I need to do versus the stuff I want to do.

22:21 <Cepheid> All I did was decide I wasn't going to attend some lectures.

22:21 <Cepheid> Is the classroom really that stressful for me to be in?

22:22 <Schism> It can be!

22:23 <Schism> You're in a social environment, which is point 1.  Folks like us, we're introverted as _HECK._

22:24 <Schism> You've said before, when you can't have a few moments to destress by yourself, such as when someone down in the plaza is playing the grand piano, you get worked up.  We need a few moments to ourselves to unwind.

22:24 <Cepheid> It's also worth keeping in mind that my usual technique for making sure I studied, which was to go to a relatively quiet, non-judgemental area on the campus, isn't viable.

22:25 <Cepheid> My parents can hear me, so I tend not to speak to myself as much, if at all.

22:25 <Schism> So we get that.  And there's more chances for a potential 1:1 with the prof if you need them.  Office hours already exist for a reason, but having that must be helpful.

22:26 <Schism> Next, you don't have to go in and out of the classroom in a social environment, filled with lots of people.  Even if you're not interacting with them, they're around.  

22:26 <Schism> By the time you'd get to the classroom, you're already stressed.

22:26 <Cepheid> Hilariously, a majority of office hours are handled in groups of students, rather than 1:1.

22:26 <Cepheid> IF, they are handled at all.

22:26 <Cepheid> Many profs just foist us off to the TAs.

22:27 <Schism> You also have less direct interaction with the university's [yay].

22:28 <Schism> All told, it's a really good idea and I hope that even after this pandemic settles, more colleges and universities will be more open to having remote students, because while for some categories of students it has a negative impact, for folks like you and me, it's an unconditional plus.

22:29 <Cepheid> Interestingly, Japanese classes, I'd prefer in person.

22:29 <Cepheid> For some reason, it's not as bad a problem for me to do the classes in person.

22:29 <Cepheid> I'd personally prefer to not have to attend lectures at all, but they demand that.

22:30 <Schism> There is still that matter of focus et al, but of course everyone's different.

22:30 <Cepheid> They want us speaking the language, so they ask us to follow along.  Mind, that doesn't WORK for me right now because when we all start talking, there's significant delay in everyone's voices and mine, so it just becomes a jumbled, garbled mess of voices, and for some reason I can only assume is related to my hearing impairment, it throws my brain way off.

22:31 <Cepheid> For some reason, my brain starts to focus on the various voices.

22:31 <Cepheid> Split them apart.

22:31 <Cepheid> And when that happens, I get overwhelmed and stop what I'm doing.

22:31 <Schism> Sounds like that's more a matter of class size, then...

22:31 <Cepheid> Not much larger than usual.

22:31 <Cepheid> I don't get how others can do it.

22:31 <Schism> Well, you say usual.  Are we looking at 28 people?

22:32 <Cepheid> 24 or so.

22:32 <Cepheid> So close enough.

22:32 <Schism> That's still a BIG class.

22:32 <Schism> Especially for folks with non-normative hearing or weird brains.

22:32 <Cepheid> It's just... really weird.

22:33 <Cepheid> Like, I start talking, often before anyone else does, as far as the zoom meeting is concerned.

22:33 <Cepheid> But then other people's voices start coming in, and they aren't in synchronization with one another or myself.

22:33 <Cepheid> And my brain just gets lost in what I'm trying to read and say.

22:33 <Cepheid> And I have to halt right there and then.

22:33 <Lumindia> yeah I can see how that would be an issue

22:33 <Schism> Cephy, my grandmother's funeral reception was 30ish people, and I spoke to a few of them, smiled, did the whole thing and couldn't string together two sentences the whole time.

22:34 <Cepheid> What I find myself doing shortly after is paying attention to one or more voices.

22:34 <Cepheid> I don't know why.

22:34 <Schism> Because that's normal?

22:34 <Cepheid> It's annoying.

22:34 <Schism> Normal is also annoying.  :<

22:34 <Cepheid> I don't get how people can speak through that.

22:34 <Cepheid> Like, how do you not stop what you're doing and choose to listen to the other voices?

22:35 <Cepheid> It happens with everything around me.  It's WHY I WEAR HEADPHONES TO SILENCE THE WORLD.

22:35 <Schism> I think most people focus on their own voices, but I really, really, really don't know how they do it on a regular basis.

22:35 <Cepheid> If I don't create that white noise, or find a place with white noise, I can't focus.

22:35 <Cepheid> Interestingly, white noise includes a large number of people talking.  Like, an auditorium full.

22:35 <Schism> If I hadn't been categorically forbidden, I would have pulled out a deck of cards and started a game of Cribbage right there at my grandmother's wake.  (...though that might not have been the worst option.)

22:36 <Cepheid> A small room of 5-30 people, it'll disrupt me.

22:36 <Cepheid> A large auditorium, gym, or room full of 200-300 people, nope.

22:36 <Schism> Oh yeah.  A thousand people talking, that's fine.  You can tune them out.  30 people?  You bounce from conversation to conversation.

22:36 <Cepheid> There is the occasional yelp or loud voice that stands out, which disrupts me.

22:36 <Cepheid> But that's far and in between.

22:37 <Cepheid> Subconsciously, I swear my mind has developed a coping mechanism for my old profound hearing loss in the form of "If I hear something, check what it is and focus on it to make sure it's not directed at me."

22:37 <Cepheid> Because when you've got 70% hearing loss in both ears, with fluid overflowing in your ears, everything sounds like it's underwater.

22:38 <Schism> Trust me.  It's not just your hearing loss.  My little joyous ADHD thing means that the slightest change results in me looking over like a dog seeing a squirrel.

22:39 <Cepheid> Hum.

22:39 <Schism> That's not to say that your hearing loss isn't a part of it, of course.  Just that it might not be the whole.

22:39 <Cepheid> Out of curiousity, do you have problems with things moving in your vision, be it peripheral or not, distracting you?

22:39 <Schism> Yuuuuuup.

22:39 <Cepheid> Like for example, a person turning their head in your direction, even if it's not directly at you?

22:40 <Cepheid> 'Cause that's a thing too.

22:40 <Schism> Brain goes, "Potential threat, analyze."

22:40 <Cepheid> Less that, and more...

22:40 <Cepheid> "Someone might be trying to talk to me."

22:40 <Schism> Well, okay, 'thing of interest'.

22:40 <Cepheid> When I see someone turn their head my way, I go "Hmm?" as in "Is something up?  Can I help you?"

22:40 <Schism> And conversations just outside my range, I can't help but listen to, because they're right there.

22:41 <Cepheid> I know for a fact that I read lips.

22:41 <Schism> I don't have that capacity, but I'm sure that if I could, I'd never stop.

22:41 <Cepheid> I realized this for the hundred-and-oneth time last Thursday.

22:41 <Cepheid> When I had my appointment with the psych.

22:41 <Cepheid> The first hour and 20 minutes was one-on-one with her, and I could see her mouth.

22:41 <Cepheid> I had an easy time understanding what she was saying.

22:42 <Cepheid> The last 20 minutes, after she returned from talking to her superior, she had said superior in the room, so the two were wearing masks.

22:42 <Cepheid> I had a much harder time understanding the psych.

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22:42 <Schism> Random thought: there's probably a market in transparent masks...

22:43 <Cepheid> Heh.

22:43 <Cepheid> Pretty sure they already make 'em.

22:43 <Cepheid> It's just they're expensive.

22:43 <Schism> But yeah, that's definitely lip reading.  Parasynesthesia, or something of the sort.

22:44 <Cepheid> I know I read lips.  It was developed from my childhood.

22:44 <Schism> Yeah, I just mean how that's parsed.

22:44 <Cepheid> If a person's facing away from me when they talk, or I can't see their mouth, or something of the sort, I have a hard time understanding them.

22:45 <Cepheid> I do need audio to help, but not much.  A person audibly whispering while speaking to me would be enough.

22:46 <Schism> ... [Your parcel is ready for pickup at this post office.]  WELL IT'S ABOUT TIME.

22:46 * Dappled flails and doesn't want to engage in work.

22:46 * Lumindia offers dappled cheeseborgar

22:46 * Dappled monch.

22:47 <Cepheid> *Parcel is all banked up, and when rocked, crinkling glass and wilhelm screams can be heard*

22:47 * Lumindia nibbles on Dappled's ears while they're distracted

22:49 * Dappled earflappies.

22:53 <Cepheid> Random Japanese tidbit.  You know what word they use for a large apartment building?

22:53 <Cepheid> Or condominiums?

22:53 <Schism> Is it the same word as 'box'?

22:53 <Cepheid> The word "Mansion" transliterated to Japanese syllables.

22:53 <Schism> Huh.

22:54 <Cepheid> Apartment meanwhile is silly.  "aparto"

22:58 <Schism> That's not all that peculiar.

22:59 <Schism> It's aparto the building.

23:00 * Dappled giggles

23:01 <Cepheid> Dangit cats.

23:02 <Cepheid> I've been bleeding all over my shirt from a cut Spitfire gave me.

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23:44 * Cepheid finishes schoolwork for the day.

23:44 <Cepheid> Submitted an assignment, studied Japanese.

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23:46 <Schism> I just saw the most hilarious turn of phrase I've witnessed in the past few days.

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23:47 <Schism> "Your viewpoints aren't independently scientific."  

23:57 <LibrarianofHope> i dont get it

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