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00:05 * Finwe hats on Ali.
00:06 * Ali squeaks at Finwe
00:06 * Finwe now cannot reach Ali's tail, so noms on Ali's ear instead.
00:07 <Finwe> It's also rather late.
00:07 <Finwe> !lullaby
00:07 * DerpyBot carries Finwe off to bed
00:07 * DerpyBot tucks Finwe in and hums a lullaby
00:07 <Finwe> !shoo
00:07 * DerpyBot sways from side to side, quietly humming "shoo be doo shoo shoo be doo"
00:07 * Finwe falls asleep to the soothing tunes of DerpyBot's lullaby.
00:07 * Cepheid installs ELFX hardcore. Wonders just how bad it'll be.
00:08 <Schism> errrr. Hardcore? That's going to be quite the trip. You should have Magelight.
00:10 <Finwe> Everything's going to be really dark.
00:10 * Schism takes Destruction Mastery with her Breton.
00:10 <Cepheid> Yes.
00:10 <Cepheid> Very dark.
00:11 <Cepheid> Hum, where can I find magelight..?
00:11 <Cepheid> Ah, Farengar has it.
00:11 <Schism> Yeah.
00:12 <Schism> I should reset my mods with Hardcore. I've run Bleak Falls Barrow enough times that I can genuinely play it by ear.
00:22 <Schism> Aw. Gonna have to restart one last time.
00:22 <Schism> Though, AFORE I DO...
00:23 <Schism> Cepheid, what was the dragons fix you used?
00:23 <Cepheid> Deadly Dragons
00:23 <Schism> Thank you. Dragons need to be deadly. o3o
00:24 <Cepheid> Even at level 7, the first dragon gave me some trouble.
00:26 <Schism> I think instead...
00:26 <Schism> Might use DDCSE.
00:27 <Schism> Less deadly. More varied.
00:27 <Schism> And I'm _PRETTY_ sure that the dragons are going to be all sorts of fun if I don't cheese the game.
00:28 <Cepheid> ...
00:28 <Cepheid> Dawnguard already?
00:28 <Schism> At least you don't have to worry about the vampires attacking in town now.
00:29 <Cepheid> Uuuuunfortunately... I want to be attacked by a vampire.
00:29 <Schism> Eh, they're all over.
00:30 <Schism> I'm sure you'll get Sanguinom Whatever from some random mook.
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00:31 * Cepheid carries the spell Candlelight around. Stealth? What's that?
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00:32 <LibrarianofHope> stealth is the art of the secret bonk
00:33 * LibrarianofHope bonks schism secretly
00:33 <Cepheid> I'm an orc. I'm geared in heavy armor, and carry a huge axe. Stealth ain't this character's thing.
00:33 <Schism> Magelight is useful, though. Fling a light at the wall, then sneak up behind the foe and bonk them that way.
00:34 <Schism> "What's this then? Hey, --"
00:36 <LibrarianofHope> i reached my mental limit for the day
00:36 <LibrarianofHope> mind went poof
00:42 <Cepheid> I have no idea who that was, but it's moot now, they attacked me and I killed them. Though, to be honest I did kinda just barge into their home unspoken.
00:43 <Cepheid> He was a necromancer, it seems.
00:45 * Cepheid looks at the sky nearby. "Right, we are leaving NOW, Lydia."
00:47 <Schism> Still amused by how the game completely breaks in 3rd-person view if you try to do the opening.
00:48 <Schism> Also, yes, busty Breton who is... ah, well-armed. And with red hair. In case you were wondering.
00:49 <Cepheid> I want a picture.
00:51 <Cepheid> In retrospect, eating something called Deathbell probably wasn't a good idea. Oh well.
00:58 <Cepheid> Fine, you want to put me through this? Then let's do this.
01:00 <Cepheid> Bah.
01:01 <Cepheid> I'm gonna have to carry elemental resist potions aren't I?
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01:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Say Something Nice About Garble [ https://tinyurl.com/y7bttfpw ]
01:08 <Cepheid> Hmm? What's that writing on the- *FOOM* -ground...?
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01:12 <Ali> Cepheid didn't bounce
01:13 <Cepheid> I survived, but it still surprised me.
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01:17 <Schism> What I'm going to do right now is sleep. x.x
01:18 <Schism> Ultimately, playing through Skyrim's opening 3 times over is exhausting. So, I'll catch you all in a little while...
02:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #2456 [ https://tinyurl.com/y9mgs53y ]
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03:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: LUNA Music: PeKaNo - Luna's Sky [Trance] [ https://tinyurl.com/y8apvd7m ]
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06:38 <Finwe> Good morning, my perissodactyls of minute stature.
06:39 <Finwe> Mlles Ali, Filly_Nightmares and Schism; Messrs Cepheid, PinkieShy and Lumindia.
06:39 * Finwe doffs his hood.
06:39 * Ali doffs over Finwe
06:40 <Finwe> It's snowing again. o3o!
06:40 * Finwe throws a complimentary snowball at Ali.
06:41 * Ali whines, its nearly 60F here now, no snow!
06:41 <Finwe> -3°C here.
06:43 <Finwe> Or 26.6°F.
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06:55 <PinkieShy> Dang it. :(
06:55 <PinkieShy> I'm actually crying for my friend.. He did something stupid and now lost a friend he liked liked..
06:56 <PinkieShy> He is acting all depressed and such.. I'm in a discord call with him and just knowing he is so sad is legit making me cry.
06:56 <PinkieShy> I don't want to see my friends or anybody in pain..
06:56 <PinkieShy> Being I know mental pain myself very well.. Its the worse.
06:57 * Finwe patpathugs PinkieShy.
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07:11 <PinkieShy> Welp He left.. :(
07:11 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift, Capt Koopz.
07:11 <Finwe> o7
07:11 <PinkieShy> I hope he is okay..
07:11 <PinkieShy> I don't want to find out days later.. He off'd himself.. :(
07:11 * PinkieShy hugs Finwe
07:12 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)
07:12 <ConfusionRift> And hello everypony.
07:16 <Koopz> RAdm. Finwe o7
07:20 * Finwe laughs at the ridiculous difficulty of hardest mode of a Ghosts 'n' Goblins remake: https://youtu.be/g4Gpn2IzvJQ
07:32 <ConfusionRift> Ah, the illusion of difficulty.
07:40 <ConfusionRift> Still funny. :P
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07:52 <Finwe> ConfusionRift: Oh, so it's actually not difficult?
07:52 <Finwe> I guess incompetent player can make any game appear difficult.
07:55 <Schism> Some of Dunkey's deaths aren't HIS fault...
07:56 <Schism> That end-of-stage platform, though.
07:57 <Finwe> I promise to doff my hat to everypony who makes it on their first try.
07:58 * ConfusionRift sighs. "Yeah, you misunderstood."
07:58 <Schism> "Easy game, easy g--"
08:00 <ConfusionRift> The "illusion of difficulty" is not that the game/stage is easy, and someone just makes it seem difficult. The "illusion of difficulty" is used when a game does NOT adjust difficulty by progression or skill. Instead, it cheaps out by adding absurd numbers of enemies, and changing the rules of the game that were already established, just to kill you.
08:00 * Schism replaces Dunkey's voice with Korone's.
08:01 <Schism> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCf87GSj31Y
08:01 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
08:01 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Korone Vs Ghosts ‘n Goblins Resurrection bosses and Bugs [Hololive]
08:02 <ConfusionRift> Also, not taking on that challenge. I no longer have the patience for that. :P
08:04 <ConfusionRift> ...those jumps are disgusting...
08:13 <ConfusionRift> Mah eaaars...
08:21 <Schism> Korone _is_ a tad on the shrill side.
08:22 <ConfusionRift> Wait... where's the part 2/second quest? :P
08:23 <ConfusionRift> Hmm, reminds me. Schism, were you the one who suggested The Beginner's Guide?
08:24 <ConfusionRift> I know someone did.
08:27 <Schism> I probably did suggest that at some point.
08:28 <ConfusionRift> I know if it was the case, it was long ago. Just kept playing the other stuff. Just went through some of the backlog, and that was one of them.
08:31 * Schism nods, and yawns.
08:31 <ConfusionRift> That was... and interesting experience.
08:31 <ConfusionRift> *an
08:32 * Schism reclines against a lamppost.
08:32 * ConfusionRift happily cleans the house continuously.
08:32 <Schism> I'd suggest using Dr. Langeskov, the Tiger, and the Terribly Cursed Emerald as a palate-cleanser, but I believe you've already done so.
08:33 <ConfusionRift> Yep. :P
08:33 <ConfusionRift> That one was also fun in its own way.
08:33 <Schism> Indeed!
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08:43 <ConfusionRift> I know there was another one under the similar, but can't remember.
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09:04 * Finwe offers some lentil pasta to Schism.
09:04 * Schism noms, and offers some cauliflower and broccoli in a cheddar sauce to Finwe.
09:04 * Finwe finds this nommable, too.
09:06 <Schism> Ah, nostalgia... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntt5iqlifaw
09:06 <Schism> (【Wind Ensemble】Pokémon Gold & Silver (Heartgold & Soulsilver) versions medley)
09:07 * Schism misses her Chikorita. Should play Gold/Silver again.
09:07 * Finwe also noms on Card and Hyslop's 2005 paper on a policy experiment with welfare recipients in Canada.
09:08 <Schism> Does it come to the conclusion that those on welfare typically spend it on bettering their lives?
09:09 <Finwe> It's on SSP, the Self-Sufficiency Project.
09:09 * Schism mms. Also on Card's Berkeley page.
09:10 <Schism> Hmmm, interesting idea.
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09:10 <Finwe> The main idea of the project was to offer wage subsidy instead of IA.
09:11 * Cepheid flops.
09:11 * Schism nods, "Albeit only for those who garnered full-time employment."
09:11 <Cepheid> I went to sleep too early.
09:11 <Schism> Same...
09:12 * ConfusionRift did... the opposite.
09:14 <ConfusionRift> And paid for it in full in the end, but whatever. Did my work, as I could, and clocked out when I was supposed to.
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09:15 <ConfusionRift> Unlike the other day, which I was so tired I walked my way to work, and suddenly remembered about not picking up my vest and badge when I was already by the gate.
09:15 <Finwe> Oh, you have a uniform?
09:15 <ConfusionRift> Luckily, someone was home to bring them over. Otherwise, would had been more complicated.
09:16 <ConfusionRift> Technically, yes. An associates vest.
09:17 * Schism peers at her badge, which will technically get her into the office, but it's been properly locked by security because she's working from home.
09:17 <ConfusionRift> Back then, we had to work with a navy blue shirt and khakis, aside from wearing the company vest.
09:18 * Finwe has a keycard and personnel card.
09:18 * ConfusionRift can make another badge if needed be, but it just forces him to go in, back at the gate, and then back in.
09:19 <Finwe> The keycard is not good for anything at the moment, though, because all privileges have been revoked due to the pandemic.
09:19 <Cepheid> I gotta stop trying to use sleeping meds to maintain a sleep schedule. More I try it, the worse things are.
09:20 <Schism> Just regular NyQuil is sometimes of the good.
09:20 <ConfusionRift> I use it to clock in and out, that's it. Oh, and to pick up the sports keys.
09:21 <Cepheid> I can't take nyquil, Schism.
09:21 <ConfusionRift> It no longer works by the TC/MC case, and it's useless elsewhere.
09:21 <Schism> Erfg.
09:21 <Cepheid> The seroquel isn't just a sleep aide, it's a medication for one of my mental issues, so I have to take it, and mixing it with other drugs that cause drowsiness can...
09:21 <Cepheid> It's not a good idea.
09:21 <ConfusionRift> Nope! It causes very nasty instabilities.
09:22 <Cepheid> More it knocks me out for far longer than intended.
09:22 <Cepheid> I've actually had a few nights where I slept for close to 24 hours because of it.
09:23 <ConfusionRift> Which is one of the issues. But it can also cause advert reactions with any mental medications.
09:23 <ConfusionRift> In any case, it's just not a good idea.
09:24 <Cepheid> On the flip side, I'm mostly over that cold I had, I think.
09:24 <Schism> That _is_ definitely a plus.
09:25 <Cepheid> Still gonna take cough syrup for another day or so, though, just to be sure.
09:25 <Schism> "Pure eyes, blue like a glassy bead -- you are always looking at me, and I am always looking at you." gah, reading TVTropes and stumbled across that puzzle again. Between that, and the Shakespeare one, I don't imagine how anyone beat Silent Hill 3 on hard mode.
09:25 <ConfusionRift> Dude, I was out cold for like a whole day, I think I was sleepwalking, and I'm pretty sure they said I was convulsing. | "OH GOD!" | But hey. (sniffs) Sinuses are clear and the cold is gone. :P
09:26 <Cepheid> If only my sinuses would clear up.
09:27 * Cepheid has cereal and some sugarfree jello for breakfast.
09:27 <Finwe> Potassium hydroxide should do it.
09:28 <Schism> Dioxygen difluoride might also work.
09:28 <ConfusionRift> "We're gonna Drano those sinuses, baby!"
09:28 <Cepheid> I have no idea what those are.
09:28 <Schism> Potassium hydroxide is better known as caustic potash. Dioxygen difluoride, meanwhile, is known by the evocative formula of "FOOF".
09:29 <Cepheid> So, both would kill me.
09:29 <Schism> (The former is even better known as 'lye'.)
09:29 <ConfusionRift> As I said, we're Drano'ing those sinuses open. :P
09:30 <Schism> https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2010/02/23/things_i_wont_work_with_dioxygen_difluoride
09:30 <Finwe> FOOF is also its structural formula. o3o
09:32 <Schism> Fluorides which are so unstable that they fail the card test at 100 are all kinds of fun.
09:33 <Schism> (The card test: you get a stack of thin buffers, the cards, and you paint a thin layer of the material underneath them. Then you test how many cards you can remove before the material goes off when the top card is struck.)
09:34 <Cepheid> Heh.
09:35 <Cepheid> 'Tis cold today.
09:35 <Schism> This was genuinely de rigeur for testing of liquid fuels in the 1940s.
09:35 <Schism> It's going to warm up to +5C there.
09:36 <Cepheid> Nice.
09:37 * ConfusionRift looks at his "not played yet" list, and sees games that have no runtime, but have achievements.
09:37 <Schism> Admittedly, the card gap test is a little more involved, but... https://arc.aiaa.org/doi/abs/10.2514/3.4731?journalCode=aiaaj
09:40 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/coolkyou2/status/1355959849843007490/photo/1 Those stats.
09:41 <ConfusionRift> o_0;
09:41 <ConfusionRift> What... in... the hell?
09:42 <Cepheid> I believe that is Disgaea 6, which upped the numbers a tad.
09:42 <Schism> While I don't recognize the game itself, I know an NIS game when I see it.
09:42 <Schism> Level 9999 was clearly insufficient.
09:42 <Cepheid> That is actually definitely Disgaea 6 with that in mind.
09:44 <Schism> ... um. https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2005/12/17/how_not_to_do_it_bromine
09:44 <ConfusionRift> "You know... variables don't have to be integers, you know. There are larger variables." | (stand up, stares with eye glowing red) Show me.
09:45 <ConfusionRift> Goodbye, value underflow, mwaaahahaHAAAAA!!!
09:46 <Schism> Disgaea 3 on PC, when? :<
09:47 * ConfusionRift sees Schism catch fire and explode. "I think that's not happening."
09:47 * Schism parses an HCF expression.
09:47 <Cepheid> That's 64-bit integers, for sure.
09:47 <Cepheid> Let me see..
09:48 <Schism> Still like how in TIS-100, the HCF instruction causes the whole thing to shut down and return to the main menu.
09:48 <ConfusionRift> They could also be parsed to fit on a string for display.
09:48 <Cepheid> That's beyond 64-bit actually.
09:48 <Cepheid> So they're using arbitrary-precision libraries.
09:50 <Cepheid> A signed 64-bit integer, using the same digit separation as the screenshot, has a range of -922,3372,0368,5477,5808 to 922,3372,0368,5477,5807 inclusive. As you may notice, there's not enough digits to hold the HP and SP values.
09:50 <Cepheid> Even if it's unsigned, the range isn't sufficient.
09:50 <Cepheid> So they're either using arbitrary precision, or some other form of extended integers.
09:50 <ConfusionRift> Well, I'm a bit rusty on the technications of the informatory technolizations, especially in the programmings of applicators.
09:51 <Schism> Techno-liz-ation. Okay, now I'm imagining a cyborg Godzilla, and it's all your fault.
09:51 <Cepheid> They're using numbers larger than a modern consumer computer can handle.
09:51 <ConfusionRift> Eerm... it already exists. :P
09:51 <Schism> Okay, okay, I KNOW that Toei probably has done every variant of Godzilla imaginable, but still.
09:52 <Cepheid> Or rather, they're using numbers that modern computers lack the precision to hold.
09:52 <Schism> Well... they probably haven't done the polka variant.
09:53 <ConfusionRift> Don't. You're invoking them. :P
09:53 <Cepheid> Since floating-point types can handle much, much larger numbers, but with accuracy limited to something like 7 to 15 or so digits.
09:53 <Schism> Well, if we're talking integers, just add more bits.
09:54 <Schism> I joke, of course. Gotta have these expressed as floats.
09:54 <ConfusionRift> You can still truncate float points or just parse using other variables of the similar. It'll make it needlessly complex, but it's doable.
09:54 <Cepheid> You can just extend it using a custom-precision library.
09:55 <Schism> Cepheid: Have you read about the history of the HCF instruction?
09:55 <Cepheid> Which is the best way to go about it. Don't use floats. There's issues with comparisons there.
09:55 <Cepheid> Yes.
09:55 * ConfusionRift shrugs. "It's slowly but surely going over my head at 1000MPH, hitting my dome and sending me into outer space.
09:56 * Schism looks at the Motorola 6800. It didn't _have_ an HCF opcode, but... "Missingno is older than we thought."
09:56 <Cepheid> Basically the issue with floats is when you try to compare numbers with regards to discrete things.
09:56 <Cepheid> Because you might have two variables, both, which, for all intents and purposes look like they store the number 127.
09:57 <ConfusionRift> Pffft, the concept of Missingno has been out there since the early days of assembly and machine languages.
09:57 <Cepheid> But in reality, one stores 127.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001, and the other stores 127.0000001
09:57 <Cepheid> Now are these two equal?
09:57 <Schism> 256, of course.
09:57 <Cepheid> And then there's the issue with zero.
09:57 <Schism> Oh, /are/ those two equal, not /what/ do they equal.
09:58 <Cepheid> In floating point mathematics on a computer, there's two zeroes.
09:58 <Cepheid> -0, and +0.
09:58 <Cepheid> -0 != +0
09:58 <Schism> Of course, because you need that bit. For a signed floating number, anyway.
09:58 <Schism> ConfusionRift, well, that's basically this. You get 256 potential opcodes, and only 197 are valid and written into the system. So, obviously, there must be 59 opcodes which don't work.
09:59 <Schism> But which can still be called... o3o
09:59 <Cepheid> It's also because the result of some math operation may have resulted in a value like -0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001, but couldn't represent it simply because of overflows.
09:59 <Cepheid> Or underflows.
09:59 <Cepheid> So it just rounds to the nearest representable value, -0.0
09:59 <Schism> And let us not forget that .9999~ == 1.
10:00 <Cepheid> Eeeyup.
10:01 <Cepheid> Point is, floating point mathematics, you want to limit the amount of comparisons you do.
10:01 <Schism> After a certain point, it's quite logical to round off some floating points.
10:01 <Schism> As the old saying goes, if you memorize 20 digits of pi, you can accurately round off the known universe.
10:01 <Cepheid> So, integers... Fortunately, with Disgaea 6, for the numbers it uses, you'd only need, hmm... An extra byte?
10:02 <Schism> Probably not even that.
10:02 <Cepheid> Yeah, I'm just rounding it to the next-highest 8-bit number.
10:02 <Cepheid> You'd still need a byte, regardless of how many bits are used.
10:02 <Schism> Of course, I hesitate to be so certain, because that screenshot doesn't show the damage, which can probably best be expressed with e.
10:03 <Cepheid> I estimate at least 3 more bits, if using an unsigned integer.
10:03 <Finwe> To summarise, never buy a house with the strenght calculations done with the original Pentium processor.
10:04 <Finwe> *strength
10:04 <Cepheid> But yeah, accounting for damage exceeding HP?
10:04 <Cepheid> They likely just went ahead and used an arbitrary-precision library, or emulated 128-bit integers.
10:04 <Schism> Heh, or at least not the P5.
10:04 <Schism> Gotta be signed anyway, because how better to define negative damage, e.g. healing?
10:05 <Cepheid> I'm hedging on emulated 128-bit integers, to be honest. Easier to implement.
10:05 * Schism is in a snarky mood this morning. Also, nods.
10:05 <Cepheid> Though, libraries exist out there for arbitrary precision, so they could have just pulled an off-the-counter setup for it.
10:05 <Finwe> An RPG truth says that it's more bliss to make damage than take damage.
10:05 <Cepheid> It's a strategy RPG, so arbitrary precision would work fine.
10:06 <Schism> Just blame any inconsistencies on the RNG, bam, done.
10:06 <Cepheid> The performance cost would be negligible.
10:06 <Cepheid> If it was an RTS, then yeah, you might notice the use of arbitrary-precision.
10:06 <Finwe> But to take negative damage opposed to make positive damage?
10:06 <Schism> Of course, the really hardcore Disgaea players are kind of consummate number-crunchers...
10:07 <Cepheid> Negative damage usually implies healing.
10:07 <Schism> Finwe: A good offense is the best defense. o3o
10:07 <Finwe> We'd need some kind of measure to find out which one is more preferable.
10:07 <Finwe> A utility function, maybe.
10:08 * ConfusionRift decides to open Trailmakers.
10:08 <Cepheid> A disgaea-type game is another one of those games that would be easy to re-implement.
10:08 <Schism> Hmm. At some point I should get a P5 keyfob.
10:08 <Finwe> With only one hp remaining and a fair chance of getting hit in the near future should shift the preference from making damage to taking negative damage.
10:08 <Cepheid> The difficulty comes into play when dealing with the animations for special attacks and the like.
10:08 <Finwe> s/With//
10:08 <ConfusionRift> Huh... seeing this game in 144hz is... quite the change.
10:09 <Cepheid> 144Hz is indeed nice, yes.
10:09 <Cepheid> If your system can handle it.
10:09 <Schism> DOOM in 144Hz is probably not worth the effort. Probably.
10:09 <Finwe> Radar Rat Race, on the other hoof…
10:09 <Cepheid> Though it is possible.
10:10 <Cepheid> Many source ports implement interpolation.
10:10 <Cepheid> So an FPS above 35 is noticeable, even on DOOM.
10:10 * Schism loads up Nethack at 144 Hz.
10:10 <Cepheid> The remake though? You can easily get up to 200 FPS or more on it.
10:10 <Finwe> !link https://youtu.be/qwnzsIH_1Uk
10:11 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
10:11 <Cepheid> Danged game is optimized to hell and back, and the Vulkan renderer is something else.
10:11 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about C64 Gamevideo 02 - Radar Rat Race
10:11 <Schism> Oh, the remake is definitely a different matter.
10:11 <Cepheid> 1080p tops out at 200 or so for me.
10:11 <Schism> Well, I mean. DOOM (2016) isn't really a remake, but still.
10:11 <Cepheid> 2160p is around 100.
10:12 <Schism> Crabcakes. A coworker of mine has a very nice C64 setup embedded in a mechanical keyboard. While I was thinking of great C64 games to mention to him, I completely spaced and didn't mention one of my favourites: Demon Stalkers.
10:14 <Schism> Basically, Gauntlet, with a little more exploration and hunting thrown in.
10:14 * Cepheid goes through all their header files in this code to clean up their dependencies.
10:14 <Schism> (And stupid, stupid traps. Freaking scrolls.)
10:15 <Finwe> Bubble Bobble, Henry's House, International Karate Plus, Space Taxi, …
10:17 * Schism stares at the mention of one chemical. "Bromine fluorine dioxide? Thank you, I think I'll be on another continent."
10:19 <Finwe> Boulder Dash is also one of the more iconic ones.
10:19 <Schism> Oh, of course.
10:19 <Finwe> And Donald Duck's Playground.
10:20 <Schism> Not one with which I'm familiar. But then, I was raised on an IBM-compatible PC rather than a C64, so I'm more familiar with Bugs Bunny's Crazy Castle.
10:21 <Schism> Also, the various games from Broderbund/The Learning Company, so we have things like Think Quick! and Ancient Empires.
10:21 <Finwe> Donald Duck's Playground was the first game by Al Lowe of Sierra Online, I think.
10:22 <Finwe> There was also a C64 version of Frogger published by Sierra, but I don't know whether Lowe participated in writing that one.
10:23 <Schism> There were a few beforehand, but I'll always remember Al Lowe most for the Leisure Suit Larry series, more about which I won't share in a PG channel.
10:24 <Schism> Oh, he was a programmer on Sierra's The Dark Crystal game.
10:27 <Finwe> Wikipædia Britannica tells that he wrote three games on his own prior to being hired by Sierra.
10:28 <Finwe> "Lowe began his career teaching public school music for 15 years. After that time, he decided to teach himself programming and in 1982 he created three games for the Apple II: Dragon's Keep, Bop-A-Bet, and Troll's Tale."
10:28 <Finwe> Sierra Entertainment also bought rights to those three.
10:30 <Schism> Oh gods.
10:30 <Schism> I just searched for Bromyl Fluoride on a whim. The first paper, from 1977, describes its reactivity to bromosyl trifluoride.
10:34 <Schism> At which point I'm already a dust cloud and a speck on the horizon.
10:38 <Cepheid> Oh, today's Capcom event for Rise starts early. 6 PM.
10:38 <Cepheid> Er, 6 AM.
10:39 <Schism> Bromine pentafloride?!
10:39 <Cepheid> Oh, ConfusionRift.
10:39 <ConfusionRift> Hmm?
10:39 <Cepheid> A new monster was revealed for inclusion in Rise. It's a Title Update monster, so won't arrive until April, buuuuuuuutttt...
10:39 <Cepheid> It's Chameleos. o3o
10:40 <ConfusionRift> Hah! Hidey thief lizard is back. :P
10:40 <Cepheid> Also, on the 11th we're getting an updated demo.
10:40 <Cepheid> It'll include the flagship monster for a fight.
10:43 <Schism> By then I should have that Switch. o3o;
10:44 <Cepheid> Heh.
10:44 * Cepheid examines her old code.
10:44 <Cepheid> I really shouldn't be using OpenGL 4.1.
10:45 <Cepheid> Shaders are a gods danged pain in the arse, to be honest.
10:45 <Cepheid> Load and compile the shader source. Create a shader program. Attach the compiled shader sources to the shader program. Link the shader program.
10:45 <Finwe> Take them out thence, then.
10:48 <Cepheid> The trouble I have is, hilariously, related to the resource management aspect. I have a resource manager which is used for loading resources of all types, but for a complete shader program, I need multiple files.
10:49 <Cepheid> This is one area where HLSL wins. It can use a single file for all shader code for all stages.
10:50 <Cepheid> OpenGL cannot handle this. Not without some heavy lifting handled by the developer.
10:53 <Schism> In what universe is bromine pentafluoride, mixed with hydrazine, even considered a viable fuel?
10:54 <Schism> This one, evidently... http://www.astronautix.com/b/brf5hydrazine.html
10:57 * ConfusionRift is getting a bit itchy about getting to MH:R, but heh, maybe he'll do better.
10:57 <Schism> At least in MH:R you can pet the dog.
10:58 <Finwe> How about dotting the peg?
11:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #2228 [ https://tinyurl.com/y9tgp4q7 ]
11:13 <Cepheid> Man, that Rise commercial is... gaudy as hell.
11:14 <Cepheid> But that doesn't surprise me.
11:17 <Cepheid> I gotta say, while I don't understand what's being said at this event, I am picking up the pronunciation of words much more easily.
11:17 <Cepheid> I am catching individual words, now.
11:32 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPsiTsBOun0
11:32 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
11:32 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about 狩猟解禁直前！モンスターハンターライズ デジタルライブイベント 2021.3.9
11:32 <Dappled> Oh my god. I got home a mere 12 hours after I left for work on a monday. I"m so happy.
11:32 <Cepheid> It's Capcom's Monster Hunter event, second day. THey're showing gameplay now.
11:40 * Filly_Nightmares honger!
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11:44 * Schism certainly doesn't have any fried ice cream for Filly_Nightmares!
11:45 * Filly_Nightmares eee and nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom Schism instead!
11:45 <Cepheid> Seriously, that ninja guy that teaches us in the demo... He's the new Excitable A-Lister.
11:45 <Cepheid> He's just... so animated, and his commentary is energetic.
11:46 <Cepheid> Ah, we get a house proper this time from the get-go.
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11:47 <Schism> It'll probably demand story missions to upgrade, but that's reasonable.
11:47 <Cepheid> Assuming upgrades exist. Typical Monster Hunter fare has been a single house, no upgrades. What we got in World was... different.
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11:50 <Cepheid> The intelligence of the dogs is still in question for me. Can they speak? It makes little sense for the dogs to not speak, when the cats can. o3o
11:52 <Cepheid> ... Is... Is that guy riding a juvenile Testucabra?
11:52 <Cepheid> That's a Testucabra.
11:54 <Schism> The dogs are probably going to pun as much as the cats.
11:55 <Cepheid> "That was a ruff battle."
12:03 <Lumindia> u wu
12:03 * Lumindia passes a single ehg over to Schism
12:04 <Cepheid> uwu uwu uwu uwu uwu uwu
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12:08 <Cyan_Spark> oeo?
12:08 <Cyan_Spark> owo
12:09 <Cepheid> uwu
12:10 <Schism> "I'll punch you!" "Oh, yes please." "..."
12:10 <Schism> </Paxiti>
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12:14 <Golden> Blep
12:14 <Schism> Mlem. *coffee*
12:15 <ConfusionRift> Plop.
12:15 <ConfusionRift> Oh, sorry. *aggressively fall on the ground*
12:15 <ConfusionRift> :P
12:17 <Golden> I have gotten the Exdeath Minion on FFXIV.
12:22 <Cepheid> So, the Rampage appears to be a sort of tower defense.,
12:22 <Schism> @Golden: Good luck getting the Bartz minion, tho. o3o
12:22 <ConfusionRift> Tower defense... huh.
12:23 * Schism may have fought Lewena and Gilgamesh LOTS of times for that one.
12:23 <Cepheid> Yeah, a tower defense with standard hunting.
12:23 <Schism> ( Lewena is the untagged NPC in the Gold Saucer who plays 5* cards ALL THE TIME and can only beaten with a bit of luck. )
12:24 <Schism> (If you have the right 1* cards, though...)
12:24 <ConfusionRift> Because I thought it looked more like the whole Zorah Magdaros quest, as in defense in stages.
12:25 <ConfusionRift> Also, I swear that area looks familiar.
12:25 <Cepheid> It's basically waves of monsters. You set up cannons, ballistae, some of which are manned, others which you can use, etc.
12:26 <Cepheid> And work to stop them from breaking through barriers.
12:26 <Cepheid> 51 monsters total in this particular instance.
12:26 <ConfusionRift> The hell?!
12:27 <Schism> 51, split amongst 4 players? That's doable.
12:27 <Cepheid> It's split up into waves, too.
12:27 <ConfusionRift> Also, sounds like the Lao Shun fight, but you have to set the defenses. The whole wave thing. Hmmm.
12:28 <Cepheid> Oh, those numbers on the side are equipment, not monsters hunted.
12:28 <ConfusionRift> Was gonna say.
12:29 <ConfusionRift> Otherwise, that one thing is gonna be the whole game.
12:29 <Cepheid> Oh, it's one of the requirements for the quest, to place 20 turrets.
12:29 <Lumindia> ...
12:29 <Lumindia> Schism, isn't the bartz minion a collector's item bonus or something?
12:29 <Lumindia> or some kind of bonus from something or other?
12:30 <Golden> Schism the wind-up Bartz minion is a collectors edition item for stormblood
12:30 <Lumindia> yep, as I thought
12:31 <Schism> Oh, so it is. Sorry!
12:31 <Schism> I might have been thinking of one of the other ones Lewena provides.
12:31 <ConfusionRift> Exactly, good luck getting that. :P
12:31 <Schism> Oh, the digital editions are available on the Mogstation.
12:31 <Cepheid> Thus far, they've killed something like 15 or so monsters.
12:32 <ConfusionRift> Guessing mostly fodder for a while.
12:32 <Schism> Oh right, Lewena's cards are Onion Knight, Bartz, and Terra. The CARD, I was right about.
12:33 <Cepheid> It's multiple monsters, so they aren't super-strong health-wise.
12:34 * Filly_Nightmares rolls onto her back and sprawls out for belly snugglies_
12:35 * Lumindia bellyrubs Surry
12:35 <Lumindia> o wo
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12:37 <Cepheid> Culminates in a battle against an Apex monster, looks like.
12:37 <ConfusionRift> Yaaaaaay. "Your reward? MORE PAIN!" :P
12:38 <Finwe> Mlles Filly_Nightmares and Angeline.
12:38 * Finwe doffs his hat.
12:43 * Lumindia boops Finwe
12:43 <Schism> @Golden, if you're going to face Lewena, do so precisely _once_ just to mark her off your list, and then pull the Terra, Onion Knight, and Cloud cards from other sources. She is NOT worth grinding against.
12:43 <Lumindia> hecc
12:44 * Lumindia chews on Schism's ear
12:44 <Lumindia> crunchy
12:44 * ConfusionRift boops Lumindia.
12:44 * Schism squeaks. But she's working in 15 minutes.
12:44 <Golden> huh
12:46 * Finwe noms on Lumindia.
12:47 <Finwe> It's been snowing quite a lot since this morning. The traffic was somewhat chaotic.
12:48 <Golden> Exdeath minion drops from raids. Besides I don't even go to Gold Saucer.
12:49 <Schism> You should. I want to face you in a deadly battle of mahjong.
12:49 <Schism> Though you're probably not even on the same data centre...
12:49 <Golden> I play on Goblin.
12:50 <Schism> Oh, so Crystal as well. We're on Coeurl, because cat.
12:50 <Golden> Alright well I need sleep.
12:50 <Schism> Rest well. Perhaps I shall face off against you later.
12:50 * Filly_Nightmares kneads Lumindia and eee at Finwe!
12:51 * Filly_Nightmares haz soft tummy floofy and yawnskrees!
12:51 * Schism provides Filly_Nightmares wif some appul pi!
12:51 <Lumindia> o wo
12:51 * Filly_Nightmares nom nom nom nom Pi!
12:51 <Lumindia> appul~!
12:51 <Golden> Later, and again I don't really do gold saucer stuff. Besides I need to focus on story stuff, and continue my way through raids.
12:51 <Schism> Golden, before you go...
12:51 <Schism> Have you done the Hildibrand quests?
12:52 <Golden> I just finished Stormblood.
12:52 <Schism> Yes, but Hildibrand stuff is optional.
12:53 <Schism> There's some in ARR, some in Heavensward, and some in Stormblood. They're all marked with the blue + sign, and they're all REALLY worth playing.
12:53 <Schism> If only because they have some of the most enjoyable stories in the whole game.
12:54 <Schism> Of course, your mileage may vary. I think Cepheid hates them. :p
12:54 <Golden> No I haven't done those quests. Don't even know where to find him.
12:54 <Golden> If they are for a game of triple triad I'll most likely pass.
12:54 <Schism> First one starts in Ul'dah. You remember that ridiculous zombie FATE in Southern Thanalan, which has flexing undead?
12:55 <Schism> As though every zombie is Sniff the Raven...
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12:55 <Schism> Anyway, no Triple Triad is involved.
12:55 <Golden> No I don't. I just started like about a few weeks ago. Anyway I need sleep.
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12:56 <Schism> Rest well, then. But do head back to Ul'dah and check for that blue quest. (You should do every quest with a blue marker anyway, they unlock things.)
12:57 <Schism> The Hildibrand questlines unlock fights against, amongst other things, Gilgamesh and Ultros.
13:12 * Cepheid flops back from shower.
13:15 * ConfusionRift goes sleep mode.
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13:33 <Lumindia> I think the HW and Stormblood ones aren't marked
13:33 <Lumindia> unless they changed that at somepoint
13:33 <Lumindia> oh they did change it
13:35 * Filly_Nightmares purrs and uses Schism as bed and Lumindia as plushie and Cepheid as blankie and goes sleepies on!
13:35 * Lumindia is soft!
13:35 <Lumindia> o wo
13:35 * Lumindia eeeees quietly at Surry
13:36 * Cepheid puts her weighted blanket over the batpone. Much less likely to crush batpone that way, while being warm.
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14:53 <Finwe> Some silly people have blocked the motorway: https://i.imgur.com/yBi5oIH.png
14:54 <Finwe> It's surprising how some people are able to forget, during winter, how to drive when it's snowing.
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15:09 <RazorSharpFang> Obviously you should take corners faster.
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15:32 <Finwe> Mr LibrarianofHope.
15:32 * Finwe doffs his hat.
15:33 * LibrarianofHope doffs finwe
15:37 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Fanfiction: A Woman Worth Saving [ https://tinyurl.com/y7bdghe6 ]
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17:26 <Finwe> Mlles Ali and DerpyBot.
17:26 * Finwe doffs his hat.
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17:30 <Pony|40503> hi)
17:31 <LibrarianofHope> hello
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18:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Pony Plushie Compilation #467 [ https://tinyurl.com/yd7xjdhf ]
18:20 <Cepheid> "Removed unexplained forward declaration. Man, I need to comment my code more often." - Git comment on a change I made to my own codebase.
18:44 * Schism picks up a carrot cake for the coworker who's driving her to the post office.
18:46 <Schism> Because if he's taking an hour out of his day _AND_ wasting gas money out of the goodness of his heart, I'm going to be giving him a freaking carrot cake.
18:53 <Finwe> o3o
18:53 * Finwe boops Schism with a carrot.
18:56 <Cepheid> Heh.
18:57 <Cepheid> ... Huh.
18:57 <Cepheid> Our next Parallel Programming assignment is actually... interesting. A challenge.
18:58 <Cepheid> Implement Conway's Game of Life in a parallel manner.
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18:59 <Finwe> Lt Pony|27566.
18:59 <Finwe> o7
18:59 * Pony|27566 waves.
19:00 * Schism creates a set of 64 virtual machines in parallel, each of which renders a Game of Life on itself and creates a dot or lack of dot based thereupon.
19:01 <Cepheid> Heh.
19:02 <Cepheid> In this case, each processor is meant to process a chunk of the board.
19:02 <Cepheid> Since it uses OpenMP, I can do this natively without having to use a virtual machine this time.
19:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3629 [ https://tinyurl.com/y9qes8xv ]
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19:37 <Cepheid> Huh. Looks like I got all the answers right for my homework yesterday. I wasn't sure, because I'm terrible at math.
19:38 <Cepheid> Or, rather, mostly right.
19:50 <Cepheid> That said, I need to practice my work/span stuff.
20:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Get the Boulder Rolling / Lullaby 145 / Stable Shorts 119 / nEvermore 28 / Movie Slate: Gurren Lagann [ https://tinyurl.com/yantbqrm ]
20:34 <Cepheid> Carleton University!? What're ye doing to CULearn?
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20:55 <Lumindia> so I have obtained my new car
20:55 <Lumindia> \o/
21:16 <Starlight_Glimmer> Good!
21:17 * Starlight_Glimmer places a chauffeur's hat in Lumindia's head
21:17 <Starlight_Glimmer> Now you can drive me around :3
21:17 <Lumindia> u wu
21:17 <Lumindia> alright Miss Daisy, where to?
21:18 * Starlight_Glimmer pulls Lumindia in the passenger seat and snuggles
21:18 <Lumindia> uwaa
21:18 * Lumindia snuggle
21:18 <Lumindia> <3
21:20 <Starlight_Glimmer> So what did you buy?
21:26 <Lumindia> 2018 Subaru Impreza
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21:41 * LibrarianofHope drives the car
21:41 <LibrarianofHope> you snuggled and left the card running
21:41 <LibrarianofHope> car
21:41 <LibrarianofHope> problem is, i dont know how to drive
21:42 * LibrarianofHope picks up ali in da car
21:43 <LibrarianofHope> we are going on a roadtrip
21:58 * Dappled names Pidgeys after the Goodfeathers.
22:01 <LibrarianofHope> the animaniacs ?
22:01 <LibrarianofHope> the mafia pigeons?
22:02 <Dappled> Of course.
22:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Pop Mart Pony Figures Appear on AliExpress [ https://tinyurl.com/y7sd9ejq ]
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22:05 <Lumindia> .....
22:05 <Lumindia> So I've been inflicted with something awful
22:05 <Lumindia> and now I must force it upon all of you
22:05 <Lumindia> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/363422398160175105/818967409594466344/unknown.png
22:06 * Dappled grabs a hammer.
22:06 <Lumindia> who's that hammer for?
22:06 <Lumindia> Me, or that guy?
22:07 <Dappled> That keyboard. Kill it. Kill it now.
22:07 <LibrarianofHope> meh
22:07 <LibrarianofHope> seen worse
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23:02 <Schism> Region: "Quebec / Not Quebec". Okay.
23:03 <Dappled> I knew Quebec was hiding important stuff from the rest of us.
23:05 <Lumindia> haha
23:10 <Schism> I'm going to saaaaaay... not Quebec.
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23:32 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Discussion: What Kind of "Cultures" Would You Like to See Explored in G5? [ https://tinyurl.com/y96d6obf ]
23:33 <Schism> Ah, if only I had copies of those discontinued Dr. Seuss books. Heh.
23:33 <Schism> Scrambled Eggs Super being the least objectionable of the lot, and that deals with hunting the eggs of a terminally endangered species.
23:41 * Ali flops over Schism
23:41 <Ali> Yet years ago you could read them in the white house no problem
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23:44 <LibrarianofHope> green eggs and ham
23:45 <LibrarianofHope> ill eat them with Ali, in the chat
23:46 <Schism> Would you nom with cute Ali? Would you nom them with pone?
23:46 * Ali ish not cute darn it
23:46 <LibrarianofHope> helps the rhyme
23:47 * Lumindia snuggles Ali
23:52 <Schism> 'Saying “this compounds doesn’t have enough nitro groups” is, for most chemists, like saying “You know, this lab doesn’t have enough flying glass in it”."
23:53 <Schism> ( https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Shreeve-compound.jpg aaaaaaaaaa )
23:53 <LibrarianofHope> or "We need to change the glass anyway"
23:53 <NitroTheFurry> Qhat
23:53 <NitroTheFurry> I've been pinged
23:53 <NitroTheFurry> Oh
23:53 <NitroTheFurry> Chemistry
23:54 <Schism> Oh, not you, Nitro. But nitrogen compounds are quite reactive...
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