Log archive of EquestriaDaily for Wednesday, 2021-04-21

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00:10 <AppleDash> Eeee

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03:25 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: (UK) - My Little Pony: Pony Life Season 2 Episode 14 - One Last Wish / Wild Hearts Beats - Discussion / Stream [ https://tinyurl.com/ydrnmyj3 ]

03:25 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Brony Support Music: Blackened Blue - Who I Am (Covering Metal Core Pony) [Metal] [ https://tinyurl.com/yh5f9rs7 ]

03:52 <Schism> "Director, Object 4118-6 is a stellar envelope.  We believe that a storage system for 'all the information' it contains would be about the size of another stellar envelope."

03:56 <Schism> Hum.  So Shin-Ei Animation released an anime version of The World Ends with You, eh...

03:57 * Ali flops over the Schism and noms ear

03:58 <Nedemai> :O

03:59 * Schism boops the Ali with some sushi. Not spicy! Just rice and fish and asparagus. (And the fish is cooked.)

04:00 <PinkieShy> I'm getting sleepy..

04:00 * Ali burps, has had her own food alreadies, but poofs food away for laters.

04:00 <PinkieShy> Fireball whiskey made me tired..

04:01 <PinkieShy> That was so sweet and burned my throat a bit. xD

04:01 <PinkieShy> I'm probably going to get sleep a few hours earlier than i normally do..

04:01 <PinkieShy> Not right now sleep but in about 2 more hours

04:05 * Ali dun't drink.

04:05 <Schism> Fireball ish a sweet drink more than a spicy one.

04:06 * Schism wraps salmon in bacon.

04:07 <PinkieShy> I'm not really a drinker either Ali.. I been wanting to try something like fireball for a while tho

04:08 <Ali> I just fear taking such a risk and having to deal with a double addiction

04:08 <PinkieShy> Same I almost didn't buy it but.. I believe i can control myself

04:13 <Ali> Its the hardest thing, good on if you can, I'm just not willing to risk it.

04:13 <Ali> Yep, sign of the headache doing its job, mincing my words away

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05:00 <PinkieShy> My dog got me bit by ants today..

05:00 <PinkieShy> About 4 ants crawled on my foot and hurt me a bit and my foot became itchy for a while.. >_>

05:00 <PinkieShy> Soap and warm water wash didn't do anything at all though :(

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05:32 <Schism> PinkieShy: Oww.

05:33 <PinkieShy> That was the worst part of today tbh.

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07:42 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.

07:44 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift, Capt Koopz.

07:44 <Finwe> o7

07:44 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)

07:44 <Finwe> Mlles Ali and Schism; Messrs Cepheid, AppleDash and uni.

07:44 * Finwe doffs his hat.

07:44 * uni meeps

07:44 <uni> heyo!

07:45 * Finwe hugs a uni.

07:45 * uni squeakies happily and hugs around Finwe

07:46 <Koopz> RAdm. Finwe o7

07:46 * Finwe noms on Ali's tail, because it is almost lunchtiem.

07:46 <Finwe> !hugtiem

07:46 <Finwe> !hug

07:46 <DerpyBot> Hugtiem? :3

07:46 <Finwe> :3

07:46 * DerpyBot wraps her front hooves around Finwe in a tight embrace

07:46 * Ali throws a snowball at Finwe

07:47 <Finwe> :0

07:47 * Finwe catches the ball and throws it back at Ali.

07:47 * Ali nuu's, she was supposed to win this

07:48 <Finwe> Sir Terry indeed told what handmaidens are for, about 170 pages into the book.

07:49 * ConfusionRift boops Ali with a snowball. :P

07:50 * Ali nuu's, it snowed here, she was supposed to have the ammo

07:53 * uni blinks, what is snow, can it be eaten?

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07:58 <ConfusionRift> It's hail, but miniature, and clumped all together to make this blanket of shaved ice. Or something like that.

08:05 <Finwe> uni: It indeed can, although it is not advisable.

08:12 * uni tourist-cameras around the snowball

08:14 <Finwe> I guess you could melt and boil it, and then recrystallise back into snow.

08:14 <Finwe> Then it would be safe to eat.

08:16 <Finwe> Hmm, we also learn that the greatest mathematician on Discworld is actually a camel called You Bastard.

08:36 <uni> hehe

08:36 <uni> that reminds me I should go get the next book in the series

08:55 <Finwe> Which one would that be?

08:55 <Finwe> I'm reading them a secont time, in chronological order.

08:58 <uni> I've only read like four books

08:58 <uni> so for me it'll be Wyrd Sisters

09:02 <Finwe> Oh, Pyramids is the fifth one, so you're lagging me by one book.

09:02 <Finwe> No, the seventh.

09:04 <Finwe> The Colour of Magic, The Light Fantastic, Equal Rites, Mort, Sourcery, Wyrd Sisters, Pyramids, Guards! Guards!, Eric, Moving Pictures, Reaper Man and Witches Abroad are the first dozen.

09:06 <uni> oops that means I've read 5!

09:07 <uni> I keep lumping The Colour of Magic and The Light Fantastic together

09:12 * ConfusionRift doesn't know what to do. He's still can't cool down.

09:19 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/shigure818/status/1384163133967593472?s=19 This is why dithering is useful.

09:24 <Schism> TWEWY is a much better game on touchscreen than it could ever hope to be on joycons.

09:24 <Schism> Cepheid: ...

09:24 <Cepheid> What?

09:25 <Schism> Just the sheer amount of time required to create that mural.

09:25 <Cepheid> I would not be surprised if it was automated.

09:25 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: (UK) - My Little Pony: Pony Life Season 2 Episode 14 - One Last Wish / Wild Hearts Beats - Discussion / Stream [ https://tinyurl.com/ydrnmyj3 ]

09:25 <Schism> Suppose so.

09:26 <Cepheid> There are tools one can use to automate the building of things.  And definitely tools to downsample images to sixteen colours.

09:26 * Schism also blehs. "Game. Could you please start dropping pins OTHER than mere cash drops?"

09:26 * Schism knows that it won't really start dropping the interesting ones until the Noise start becoming more dangerous, but even so.

09:26 <ConfusionRift> I believe there's a mod or plugin that does that. HOWEVER, I have see people make these from scratch. Just like those who made full HD pictures on Excel.

09:27 * Schism also picks up a truck and starts throwing it around, combined with attacks by Shiki.

09:27 <Cepheid> True.

09:30 <ConfusionRift> ...

09:30 <ConfusionRift> They're giving away an up to scale Grimoire Weiss.

09:31 <Cepheid> R-Type?

09:31 <ConfusionRift> Nier.

09:31 <ConfusionRift> https://twitter.com/NieRGame/status/1384522494120370176

09:32 <Cepheid> Ah.

09:35 <ConfusionRift> As for R-Type, the limited edition came with a die cast replica of R-9A. There is a model kit somewhere... at a hefty price.

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09:44 <Finwe> Mr Golden.

09:44 * Finwe doffs his hat.

09:45 <Golden> Hey

09:49 <Cepheid> https://imgur.com/gallery/jcUOpzd Not sure how I feel about this.

09:50 * ConfusionRift sighs. "Eject."

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09:54 <Cepheid> You know, I like how people clip videos of vtubers and label said clips "Oh no, X showed Y by accident."  Yes.  By accident.  And totally not intentionally to draw viewers.

09:54 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, have been seeing those a lot.

09:56 <ConfusionRift> "Oh nooo, I did NOT meant to show that on stream in from of millions of viewers!" | Girl... that cursor doesn't lie. That was the slowest, most intentional, obvious movement I have ever seen.

09:57 <Cepheid> Heh.

09:59 <Cepheid> Strangely, Youtube likes to show me a lot of such clips from Nyanners, even though I don't watch her channel or anything of the sort.

10:00 <ConfusionRift> Same. Might be due to... I forget her name. It's because they're all VTubers linked to clips on similar channels.

10:01 <Cepheid> Mmmhmm.

10:01 <Cepheid> I find it interesting that people are shocked at what she does, though.  The clips suggest that she's a bit of a troll.

10:02 <Cepheid> And a foul-mouthed one at that.

10:05 <Cepheid> Okay okay, time to get this school crap over and done with, what do they want now?

10:05 <Cepheid> Testing for e-proctoring, and...

10:05 <Cepheid> They want to know why I withdrew from the other course.

10:06 <Cepheid> Ah, they just want an updated end date period form from me, because droppin-  God forking dangit, I should have just failed the course.

10:11 * ConfusionRift isn't sure that would be a better idea in general. Alas, knows all this is just gonna be a mess.

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10:12 <Cepheid> At this point it's just going to add more money to my tuition to pay back, that's all.

10:12 <Cepheid> It would have done that either way.

10:13 <Cepheid> Anyhoo, the form isn't anything complicated.  I'll just print it up, fill it out, send it back.  As for the other thing, it's just to make sure the e-Proctoring software works ahead of time.

10:27 <Cepheid> Finwe:  Correct me if I'm wrong, but a 3-dimensional cube is considered a hypercube?

10:31 <Finwe> Hypercube is usually the 4-dimensional version.

10:31 <Finwe> Or higher.

10:31 <Cepheid> Yeah, I was thinking that myself.

10:32 <Cepheid> It's just, this documentation I'm reading describes a hypercube layout, but all artist depictions of said layout are of regular cubes, not tesseracts or higher.

10:33 <Cepheid> Oh, I see why.

10:33 <Finwe> In wider sense, an n-dimensional hypercube allows n to be any natural number.

10:33 <Cepheid> They just don't bother to demonstrate higher dimensional cases.

10:33 <Cepheid> If there were 2^4 processors involved, then yeah, it'd start to look like a hypercube.

10:33 <Finwe> So a single point is a 0-dimensional hypercube.

10:34 <Cepheid> As each processor would then be connected to four other processors.

10:34 <Finwe> A line segment 1D, a square 2D, and ordinary cube 3D.

10:34 <Cepheid> The resulting shape would look like a hypercube.

10:34 <Cepheid> Mmm, that explains it, Finwe.

10:36 <Finwe> Etymologically, hyper means above, so that's why it's usually used for dimensions higher than that of the ordinary cube.

10:36 <Cepheid> Mmm.

10:36 <Cepheid> In this case, I think they're just describing 0/1/2/3D cases as hypercube cases to separate them from the mesh cases.

10:37 <Finwe> 4D hypercube can still be modelled as a 3D structure.

10:38 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.

10:38 <Cepheid> Interestingly, this particular case doesn't just stop at 4D.

10:38 <Cepheid> It basically describes the layout and connections of a system with 2^N processors.

10:38 <Finwe> Oh, a 4D hypercube is called "tesseract".

10:38 <Finwe> I didn't know that.

10:38 <Cepheid> The dimensionality just describes how many connections there are from each processor.

10:39 <Cepheid> So 1D, there's only one other processor connected.  2D, 2 processors.  3D, 3 processors, and so on, and so on.

10:39 <Cepheid> The end-result is what basically looks like an N-D hypercube.

10:40 <Cepheid> It's just, for reasons unknown, every depiction I've seen of such setups has always been 3D at most.

10:40 <Cepheid> So they just show a regular cube, which didn't fall into my definition of hypercube.

10:41 <Finwe> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/Schlegel_wireframe_8-cell.png

10:41 <Cepheid> I know what a hypercube looks like.

10:41 <Finwe> Do you?

10:41 <Cepheid> I was just asking if 0, 1, 2, and 3-dimensional cubes qualified as hypercubes.

10:41 <Finwe> That's just a projection into 3-dimensional space.

10:42 <Cepheid> I know what a 3-dimensional hypercube looks like, does that satisfy your curiousity a bit better?

10:42 <Finwe> I suspects no one really knows what four-dimensional objects would actually look like.

10:42 <Cepheid> Wonder what a 5-dimensional hypercube projected into 3D looks like.

10:43 <Cepheid> Ah.

10:43 <Finwe> Umm, take two of those wireframes and connect all the corresponding verices.

10:43 <Cepheid> Yep.

10:44 <Finwe> But then you cannot avoid the faces intersecting anymore.

10:45 <Finwe> For some more pathological topologies, projecting into any space with strictly smaller dimension requires self-intersections.

10:45 <Finwe> Like the Klein bottle.

10:46 <Finwe> It's immersible in R^3, but the boundary will itersect itself along a closed curve.

10:47 <Cepheid> You know, sometimes I wonder what kind of people you talk to outside of IRC, because you seem to talk about this stuff as if it is naturally understood by the people around you. :P

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10:47 <Cepheid> Which, if you hang around a lot of math-heavy professors, students, and such, it is.

10:47 <Finwe> Miss Filly_Nightmares.

10:47 * Finwe doffs his hat.

10:47 * Filly_Nightmares pants at Finwe and eeeeeeeeeeeeeee

10:47 <Cepheid> But with me... eeehhhh.

10:47 * Filly_Nightmares climbs onto Finwe head and noms hat

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10:48 <RazorSharpFang> Hey heys

10:48 * Filly_Nightmares berps and gnaws on Cepheid too!

10:48 * Filly_Nightmares skreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

10:48 * Filly_Nightmares wigglewaggles excitedly!

10:48 * Finwe hugs the Filly_Nightmares and greets the RazorSharpFang.

10:48 <Cepheid> Case in point, I have no idea what "immersible in R^3" means.  I know the R^3 is referring to 3D space, but the "immersible" part has no meaning to me in the context.

10:49 * Filly_Nightmares mews and tucks her cold hoovesies into Finwe floof

10:51 <Finwe> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immersion_(mathematics)

10:52 <Finwe> Embedding might have been better term, actually.

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10:52 <Cepheid> Gonna be honest, when it comes to mathematics, wikipedia is the worst.  It's quite descriptive and very in-depth, I won't lie.

10:52 <Cepheid> But you need a degree in mathematics to understand any of it.

10:53 <RazorSharpFang> Wikipedia prides itself in ensuring that it does not contain any instructional material.

10:53 <Finwe> But as we're discussing compact manifolds, embedding and immersion are the same.

10:54 <Cepheid> RazorSharpFang:  Like I said, it's understandable provided you have a degree in the relevant field.  My argument for this is anything relating to computers is easy for me to understand on it.

10:54 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, someone with little to no experience with computers or computer science would have a hard time reading the stuff I read.

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10:56 <RazorSharpFang> ` In differential geometry, an immersion is a function that maps one manifold into another. Immersions are only possible if the manifolds have certain properties. ` says Wikipedia-Simple

10:56 <Cepheid> Mind, I don't understand all of it, but I can infer meaning based on context sometimes, so yerp.

10:57 <Finwe> RazorSharpFang: The simplicity of Wikipedia-Simple is disputable.

10:57 <RazorSharpFang> Well, it tries at least.

10:58 <Cepheid> That said, there are times even when wikipedia overdoes it with the explanations and examples in my field, presenting unreadable garbage.

10:58 <Cepheid> Pseudocode is particularly vulnerable to this.

10:58 <Cepheid> As there's no consistent format for it.

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10:59 <Cepheid> And because it's meant to be written using natural languages instead of programming languages, it can be written by anyone.

10:59 <Cepheid> INCLUDING people who have absolutely no programming experience.

11:00 <Cepheid> Like this samplesort I'm reviewing.

11:00 <Cepheid> Wikipedia' entry on it mixes the psuedocode with statistics and set theory.

11:00 <Cepheid> This was obviously written by a mathematician rather than a programmer.

11:04 <Finwe> To make it short, if you can map a manifold into another so that it has similar local properties, it's an immersion, but an embedding requires similar global properties.

11:05 <Finwe> For Klein bottle, the mapping into three-dimensional Euclidean space has a self-intersection, which means that it is not an embedding, as there is no self-intersection in the original four-dimensional manifold.

11:07 <Finwe> For some cases, both exist, like transforming a circle in a plane.

11:08 <Finwe> You can test this with a rubber band on a table.

11:10 <Cepheid> I'm curious Finwe.  Do you ever get frustrated with people not understanding your math talk?  Legitimate question, not trying to belittle you or anything.  It's just something I'm curious about.

11:12 <Finwe> I can't remember getting frustrated.

11:14 <Cepheid> Mmm.  Same here, sort of.  My parents like to go "*Whoosh!*" and do a hand motion over there head.  They as a result tend not to take any interest in what I'm doing other than knowing that I'm doing it.

11:15 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #2271 [ https://tinyurl.com/yzeg86b3 ]

11:17 <Finwe> I spent an autumn teaching mathematics and physics to highschool students a couple of years ago; some of them only taking the obligatory course were somewhat frustrating.

11:18 <Finwe> Mostly by not paying attention to the essential things.

11:19 <Cepheid> You'd probably dislike me as a student.

11:19 <Cepheid> I have a biased tendency to... just do my own thing.  Usually related to the topic at hand.

11:19 <Finwe> "Alright, what we're going to do next is this: …" "What are we supposed to do?" "Well, I kind of told you 30 seconds ago, maybe you should have been paying more attention."

11:20 <Cepheid> You start talking about gaussian elimination, I'll go off and start playing around with it at my own speed, which may be slower or faster than you teach it.

11:20 <Cepheid> Admittedly this year I haven't been doing much of that.  Part of it is the work-from-home stuff.

11:20 <Cepheid> I prefer being in a classroom when I study.

11:20 <Cepheid> Or at least on a campus.

11:22 <RazorSharpFang> On a waterless planet we can't even make rocket fuel out of electricity and copper.

11:22 <Cepheid> I am not a good student, and I am not as smart as I like to think I am.

11:24 <Cepheid> I think I just need to find a stream or something to focus on, instead of general computer science.

11:26 <Finwe> I don't like the Zoom lectures either.

11:26 <Finwe> I'd rather interact with people present in the same room.

11:27 <Cepheid> Typically, what I do is I sit in the front row, usually in a gremlin position because of my height, and toy around on my laptop with whatever we're talking about.

11:27 <Cepheid> It's nice to listen to a professor lecture and talk, but I function better by taking what the professor is discussing and experimenting with it.

11:28 <Finwe> If I have my laptop with me, I usually also read some extra material related to the topic.

11:30 <Finwe> The main philosophical difference between a cube and a Klein bottle is that even though it is possible to think outside the box, it is not possible to think outside the Klein bottle.

11:30 <Cepheid> There's that, yes.

11:30 <Cepheid> I also sometimes read material related to the subject at hand.

11:30 <Cepheid> Particularly, material that hasn't been covered yet, because I need it for an experiment.

11:33 <Cepheid> While it makes sense for certain values of n and p, seeing "n/p > p" looks weird.

11:36 * Lumindia passes bagels out to everyone

11:39 * Filly_Nightmares butts her head into Lumindia tummy

11:46 * Lumindia squeaks

11:46 * Lumindia offers Surry a bagel w/ cream cheese

11:46 <Cepheid> Man I am not ready for this exam, and I won't be.  Part of the problem is that all the material is taught as lectures, and the last month I've been unable to attend the lectures either because headaches, or I'm asleep due to borked sleep cycle.

11:47 <Cepheid> Of course, that's just an excuse.  There's lecture recordings I could have watched, but didn't because I'm lazy and a terrible student.

11:50 <RazorSharpFang> I wonder if it's worth it to drop a shipment of cryonite to a planet so they have water to make rocket fuel out of

11:50 <RazorSharpFang> I meant cryonite slush

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11:56 * Finwe hats on Schism.

11:57 <Cepheid> I wish I knew why I slacked off so much with university work.  I can only assume it's because I've biased myself against the university.  Therefore, I don't want to do work for the university, even if it benefits me.

12:01 <Cepheid> I'm not stupid.  At least, I don't think I am.  I'm good at what I do, because I work at it intensely and I'm always learning something relating to it.  I spend so much time studying random topics.  But, I feel like I'm garbage.

12:06 <Cepheid> ... Huh.

12:07 <Cepheid> A US university has been implicated in submitting patches to the Linux kernel that intentionally add use-after-free bugs to the kernel.

12:07 <Cepheid> And then creating fake fixes which do nothing.

12:08 <Cepheid> It was an attempt to prove the insecurity of open-source software.

12:09 <RazorSharpFang> Did the patches actually get added?

12:10 <Cepheid> I have no idea.  I'd have to read the paper, but it sounds like, from the response of one of the kernel devs, that they did not get added.

12:10 <Cepheid> But the point is that the university was attempting to submit bad-faith patches intentionally to try and prove a point, so the end-result is that patches can no longer be trusted from the university.

12:11 <Cepheid> Which means, the university has been banned from contributing to the Linux kernel.

12:11 <Cepheid> Actually it looks like the patches WERE indeed accepted, and have to be reverted.

12:13 <RazorSharpFang> I've got 3 fusion reactors equipped and I'm still finding myself out of power for my portable roboport

12:14 <Cepheid> We need the more powerful reactors for those to be viable.

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12:41 <Cepheid> Huzzah, headache.  Tylenol time.

12:50 <RazorSharpFang> I notice a lot of medicines end in `ol

12:52 <ConfusionRift> *ol, *ine, *yl, and *en. :P

13:19 <Cepheid> The tylenol helps for the pain, does sweet merciful nothing for all the rest of the symptoms.

13:19 <Cepheid> I still get cold sweats, crawling skin, and so on.

13:20 <Cepheid> Oh.  It's time for lunch.

13:26 * ConfusionRift flops to sleep.

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14:54 <Cepheid> Man, I do not like this CoMaS software.  Records way too much from my PC.

15:00 <RazorSharpFang> I don't know what that is

15:07 <Cepheid> It's software that records my camera, takes screencaps of all open windows on my desktop, including the desktop itself, and also records the name of each application that's open, and all sorts of other stuff.

15:07 <Schism> CoMaS is an e-proctoring software which is meant to preclude cheating.

15:07 <Cepheid> Yeah, except it's invasive as all ****.

15:08 <Schism> Isn't that what I just said?

15:08 <Cepheid> Yep.

15:08 <Schism> Ah, for those halcyon days of GameGuard.

15:08 <Cepheid> Honestly I don't want to use it.

15:08 <Cepheid> But if I don't, I fail the last remaining course right off the bat because there's no other way to do the exam.

15:08 <Schism> Honestly?  If I were to take classes online, I'd get a separate junk laptop just for that nonsense.

15:09 <Cepheid> So I'm just gonna be vitriolic as all hell.  They're gonna get screenshots alright, but those screenshots are going to include pictures of my vitriol.

15:09 <Schism> Heh.

15:09 <Cepheid> Most of them reading "Carleton University can go [REDACTED] itself." and "The university can just burn in flames already."

15:09 <Schism> https://charlatan.ca/2020/10/editorial-carleton-must-reverse-its-decision-to-use-comas/

15:10 <Cepheid> I'll be polite at first though.  There's a tech support meeting at noon today.

15:10 <Cepheid> I'm going to ask if there's any way I can get around using CoMaS.

15:10 <Schism> CoMaS was developed in-house, which means it's entirely possible that you can throw a brick at the person responsible.

15:10 <Cepheid> If they say no, then...  Whelp.  Either vitriol, or I'm just straight up done.

15:10 <RazorSharpFang> Which OS does CoMaS require?

15:10 <Cepheid> Windows, Mac, Linux, it works on all 3.

15:10 <Schism> works.

15:10 <RazorSharpFang> Huh. Dev team must have worked really hard on that.

15:11 <Cepheid> I'm surprised the dev team didn't say anything.

15:11 <Cepheid> I guess they don't teach ethics to their software development students at all.

15:11 <Cepheid> And trust me, it was students who wrote this, most likely.

15:12 * Schism wonders if Cepheid heard word one about the students' petition calling for the university to not use that.

15:12 <Cepheid> The university would never pay top dollar for professional software.

15:12 <Cepheid> Nope.

15:12 <Cepheid> That's the first I've heard of it.

15:12 <RazorSharpFang> What if you ran CoMaS in a virtual machine

15:12 <Cepheid> Still need to present a webcamera to it.

15:12 <RazorSharpFang> ... What if you don't have a webcam?

15:15 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: More Pony Music! (And Lots Of Bonuses!) Pony Tributes and Brony Spirit! [ https://tinyurl.com/yhnl35w7 ]

15:16 <Schism> Hmm.  Kind of want things this morning.  Things like beans, sausage, bacon, fried bread, tomatoes, onions, eggs, and I'm almost certain that the store has some black pudding but I've never seen it.

15:16 <RazorSharpFang> You wantsies, can you havesies?

15:17 <Schism> Oh, I have all of that, there's no question.

15:17 <RazorSharpFang> My cup of rice was less filling than I was hoping for.

15:17 <Schism> Well, save for the black pudding...

15:17 * Schism only rarely goes full ham when it comes to breakfast.

15:18 <Cepheid> Razor, if you don't have a webcam or device to record from, you're boned.

15:18 <Cepheid> You absolutely need one.

15:18 <Cepheid> I'm on the wall about this.  On one hand, I should try to pass the course.  On the other hand?

15:18 <Cepheid> I don't want to give the university authorization to all the information it's asking for.

15:19 <RazorSharpFang> What if you "gave" it a emulated device that's really blurry

15:19 <Cepheid> Won't work.

15:19 <Cepheid> Has to be a clear visual of you.

15:20 <Cepheid> Let's see, full list of things recorded...

15:21 <Cepheid> Random screenshots of the desktop, local copy plus uploaded to remote "secure" server.  Monitors the CoMaS application directory for changes. Whether you lose internet connection or not. Whether or not you have any of a wide array of documents open, the filesystem path to them, the application that has opened and/or modified them, so it tracks file modifications too.

15:22 <Cepheid> It proclaims not to look at any files not open.

15:22 <Cepheid> It proclaims to not record the contents of any files on my drive, except for the files in the CoMaS application directory.

15:23 <Cepheid> Proclaims to not record any browser history, cache, or cookies.  Except it lists common HTTP document types as ones it'll monitor, so...

15:23 <Cepheid> Proclaims not to look at network traffic, and doesn't probe devices on the network.  I can probably confirm that myself to be honest.

15:24 <Cepheid> Proclaims it doesn't record what applications I have installed.  Though it'll record applications that have opened/modified a file, but not the contents, etc.

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15:30 <RazorSharpFang> Cepheid, I forget are you around the Toronto area?

15:31 <Cepheid> Ottawa.

15:31 <Cepheid> 4-6 hours away from Toronto by car.

15:31 <RazorSharpFang> Is it snowing where you are?

15:31 <Cepheid> It was for a bit, but not right now I don't think.  I'd have to look outside.  Why?

15:31 * Schism is nearer to Toronto. And it is snowing where she is.

15:31 <Cepheid> It is not currently snowing.

15:31 <RazorSharpFang> A few other folk I know are in Canadia, they were commenting that it was snowing in Toronto.

15:32 <Schism> Er, was a few minutes ago, anyway.

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15:33 <RazorSharpFang> They were commenting also that Canada was adding some new tax to Netflix and other streaming services. How you heard about that?

15:34 * Schism mutters, "What Canada should be doing is making their ISPs public utilities."

15:34 <Cepheid> Heard about that, yeah.

15:35 <Schism> And first person to say 'but private utilities drive innovation!' gets a router up the tailpipe.

15:35 <RazorSharpFang> To be frank I don't see much innovation in utilities in general.

15:35 <Schism> Indeed.

15:36 <Schism> Heh, 'course, you're right in the same boat with us on that front, RSF, if not even worse over there.

15:36 <RazorSharpFang> ... North York in Toronto huh

15:36 <RazorSharpFang> They have an East York too

15:36 * Schism offers RSF a pie to throw at Malcolm Turnbull, and also nods. "Yeah, York is a common name."

15:37 <RazorSharpFang> Malcolm? He's not been in power in years

15:37 <Schism> Yeah, but he still needs a pie thrown at him anyway.

15:37 <RazorSharpFang> Yeah, but the current folk need it more.

15:37 <Schism> Morrison, huh.  Lessee...

15:38 <RazorSharpFang> Anyway, brb shower

15:39 <Schism> Oog.  That thing in Parliament this year... forget a pie in the face, Morrison needs a kick in the fork.

15:39 <Schism> Kaykay.

15:43 <Schism> Bleh.  Overslept so now I get to take that T.

15:43 <Schism> Er, T-blocker and E.

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15:57 <Cepheid> ...

15:58 <Cepheid> My mother basically just told me to quit university.

15:58 <Schism> On grounds that it's not being good for you?

15:58 <Cepheid> Besides the **** above, there's clearly something wrong with me and the university that it's pushing my limits.

15:58 <Cepheid> I just had a meltdown, subdued compared to usual thanks to meds, but yeah.

15:59 * Schism mmfs. "At this stage of affairs..."

15:59 <Cepheid> There is something between me and the university, something unknowable, that makes it increasingly frustrating to deal with it.

16:00 <RazorSharpFang> You can tell how messed up the system is.

16:00 <RazorSharpFang> Happy Midnight from Australia

16:00 <Schism> Looking at the Charlatan, you don't appear alone in your opinions.

16:01 <Cepheid> It's not just this.

16:01 <Cepheid> It's... every semester, something about the university gets under my skin.

16:01 <Cepheid> And then just sort of starts crawling, biting, agitating me non-stop.

16:01 <Cepheid> Until I have a meltdown and injure myself.

16:01 <Cepheid> The only difference these last two semesters is that the University didn't send me directly to a hospital.

16:03 <Cepheid> I should not be getting thoughts along the lines of "I want to see the university burn down with everyone in it."

16:03 <Cepheid> That level of vitriol indicates a severe problem between me and the University.

16:08 <Cepheid> You know...

16:08 <Cepheid> Off topic to all this.

16:08 <Cepheid> But I have to wonder, I wonder if Square-Enix is aware of 8-Bit Theatre, and possibly takes influence from it.

16:09 <Schism> Heh, sometimes, one does have to wonder about that... I'm sure they know the strip, but whether they've done anything with regards to that...

16:09 * Schism talks to an NPC in an FF1 remake who simply says "I Like Swords".

16:10 <Cepheid> There has to be at least references to it.

16:10 * Schism passes Cepheid a datasphere. Which looks like a cube.

16:11 * Cepheid turns it into a hypercube.

16:12 <Schism> "We're standing in a summoning circle.  Which is actually a square, don't ask."

16:12 <Finwe> Cyberhype.

16:12 <Finwe> Hybercube schmybercube.

16:13 <Cepheid> Apparently, the entirety of 8-Bit Theatre is going to be printed... in text.

16:13 <Cepheid> No images, since of course, they can't print the sprites, as they belong to Square-Enix.

16:13 <Cepheid> So the script of the entire series is basically going to be carefully laid out and printed in a book.

16:13 <Schism> Hmm.  Well, there are comparatively few gags which rely entirely upon visuals.

16:14 <Cepheid> And you can just add drawings for the ones that do rely on it.

16:14 <Schism> http://www.nuklearpower.com/2009/07/14/episode-1152-not-the-best-comeback/

16:15 <Schism> (I admit, one of my favourite examples of Garland being... Garland."

16:15 <Schism> )

16:15 <Cepheid> Drawings, provided they aren't direct 1:1 copies of official artwork, but even of characters, can typically be sold.  Otherwise, things like Comiket might not exist.

16:15 <Cepheid> Oh my gods Comiket.

16:15 * Schism chuckles.

16:16 <Cepheid> All the fan art being sold.

16:16 <Cepheid> Some of it of a questionable nature.

16:17 <Schism> Oh, yes.

16:17 * Schism also shakes her head. "Sadly, one of the best jokes Brian Clevinger put into 8-Bit Theater will only be in our memories."

16:19 <Schism> Thief's ninja outfit has always been black.

16:19 <RazorSharpFang> Time for me to sleep, already past midnight.

16:19 <RazorSharpFang> Cyas

16:19 <Schism> Sleep well.

16:19 <Schism> ("What kind of ninja wears bright red?" "AHA!  I never said it was bright red." "Neither did I." "...glrk.")

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16:22 * Schism asks of Cepheid, "I trust you secured the precious cold fusion device."

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16:34 <Cepheid> Wait, what?

16:37 <Cepheid> All I've acquired is a sedating drug that is leaving me high and woozy.

16:37 <Cepheid> I need to lay down. o3o;

16:38 <Finwe> Mr PinkieShy.

16:39 * Finwe doffs his hat.

16:39 <PinkieShy> Hi Finwe :P

16:39 <PinkieShy> I got the best night's rest in a long time last night :)

16:40 <Finwe> Nice to hear. It's always delightful to feel fully rested.

16:41 <Cepheid> I feel like my eyes are dilated.

16:48 * Schism randomly passes Cepheid some Gatito pins.

16:48 <Cepheid> What are those?

16:48 <Schism> Heh, endgame equipment in The World Ends with You.

16:49 <Cepheid> Ah.

16:49 <Schism> With NEO coming out in a month or two, I figured I'd finally actually pay for the game, as I did beat it before on a pirated copy, and I was jonesing for a bit of that again.

16:51 <Schism> Tis very different without the two-screen bit, though.

16:52 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.  How do they hand it?  Splitscreen?

16:53 <Schism> Nope.  There's two modes, touchscreen and joycon.  Touchscreen mode, you can activate your partner's abilities by tapping the pin or tapping repeatedly on an enemy (which sometimes results in multiple pins activating at once).

16:53 <Schism> Joycon mode, you can either do the same, or a second player can handle the partner.

16:54 <Cepheid> Mmm.

16:57 <Cepheid> I wound have imagined a setup where you rotate the switch 90 degrees, then render 2 subscreens on one screen.

16:57 <Schism> That'd probably work better with games like EO.  Still, as this is a report of a port to iOS and other such devices...

16:59 <Cepheid> Interestingly for EO, that would work yes.  But it isn't ideal.  Depends on touch sensitivity with stylus.

16:59 <Cepheid> A better setup would utilize keyboard and mouse control.  Especially for tv mode.

17:00 <Cepheid> Can be done with joycons, but harder.

17:02 * Schism mms.

17:15 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Does She Know? / Springtime / Stable Shorts 134 / Lullaby 151 / Friendship 43 / Singing Storm 18 / Movie Slate: Hot to Trot [ https://tinyurl.com/yehedjzd ]

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17:18 <Schism> Cepheid: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/everyone-knows - It can be hard to keep a secret sometimes.

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17:22 <Cepheid> https://i.redd.it/x99s316oubu61.jpg

17:23 <Schism> Yep.

17:23 <Schism> "You know, lesbians are a thing that exists, right?" --Mae to herself

17:24 <Schism> ... yup.  https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/daily-life-of-dia/sleepless/viewer?title_no=94272&episode_no=83

17:27 <Cepheid> Because of my short term memory problems, I regularly forget about the laundry.

17:27 <Schism> I always wind up setting an alarm on my phone, because I know that if I don't, I'll wind up leaving the stuff in there for hours.

17:28 <Schism> Heh, one more such link.  https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/daily-life-of-dia/sneak-attack/viewer?title_no=94272&episode_no=102

17:28 <Cepheid> I try to do that but the washer is inconsistent for its cycle length

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17:29 <Cepheid> I like to imagine Dia's life is what Azul has gone through.

17:29 <Schism> I'm pretty sure a lot of it is autobiographical.

17:33 * Schism also snickers once again at Pas going all Azumanga Daioh.

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17:42 <Schism> Hrm.  Think I did something weird with a rib while stretching.  Oh well.

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18:04 <LibrarianofHope> i feel awfull

18:04 <LibrarianofHope> my dad is going to kill me

18:05 <LibrarianofHope> i mean, i attended a goddamned client everyone else had been igonring

18:05 <LibrarianofHope> did my best

18:05 <LibrarianofHope> they left, its reasonable consdering the backstory

18:05 <LibrarianofHope> and im at fault

18:05 <LibrarianofHope> i had to take xanax

18:06 * LibrarianofHope needs a lot of hugs

18:08 * Schism hugs LibrarianofHope. "It sounds like that's not your fault, that there was nothing you could have promised the client to keep them with you outside of the sun, the moon and the stars."

18:08 <LibrarianofHope> i tried

18:08 <LibrarianofHope> im perfectly professional

18:08 <Schism> And you did your best.  I've had clients who were absolutely not willing to stick around, and simply wanted to vent.

18:09 <Schism> It happens to us all.

18:09 <LibrarianofHope> thtas not it

18:09 <LibrarianofHope> my father is demented, his first reaction was attack me

18:09 <Schism> urgh...

18:09 <LibrarianofHope> not ask, not anything else

18:09 <LibrarianofHope> i hate him

18:10 <LibrarianofHope> all the good he had done for me is cancelled out by how ddeply sick he made me

18:10 <LibrarianofHope> i need to leave, i have nowhere to go

18:11 <Schism> Can you see if you can find a hostel to stay at, for a week?  Take that time, getting your head together...

18:11 <LibrarianofHope> ill figure something out

18:13 * Schism nods...

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18:33 <Schism> This... is not just Ohio weather.  https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/daily-life-of-dia/ohio-weather/viewer?title_no=94272&episode_no=75

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18:56 <Finwe> Mlles Ali and Schism; Messrs Cyan_Spark and LibrarianofHope.

18:56 * Finwe doffs his hat.

18:59 <LibrarianofHope> feeling muchhhh better

18:59 <LibrarianofHope> ill wring the bastard for everything i can

18:59 <LibrarianofHope> establish a painting service

19:00 <LibrarianofHope> he can go to hell, alonside his office

19:00 * LibrarianofHope glomps ali for the incovience of the ranting

19:00 <LibrarianofHope> moving on

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19:24 <Finwe> Mr Nedemai.

19:24 * Finwe doffs his hat.

19:24 * Finwe then hats on Ali.

19:24 * Nedemai gestures in a polite way back

19:24 <Schism> rAdm. Finwe.

19:24 * Schism doffs her Player Pin.

19:25 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Animation - WWIII  [ https://tinyurl.com/ygbb6mxa ]

19:27 <LibrarianofHope> I learnt something about the mexican painting circles

19:27 <LibrarianofHope> apparently theres is a market, but people dont paint if the dont feel like it

19:28 <LibrarianofHope> like a full group of small guys

19:28 <Finwe> What kind of painting?

19:28 <LibrarianofHope> miniature

19:28 <LibrarianofHope> wargaming has a lot of horde armies with same colored mobs

19:28 <Finwe> Ah, so visual art?

19:29 <LibrarianofHope> it does fit that area yep

19:29 <Finwe> Could have been decoration or painting outside walls.

19:29 <LibrarianofHope> walls im not that good

19:29 <LibrarianofHope> but paiting other types of minis, like vases and stuff

19:30 <LibrarianofHope> i can certainly paint decoration stuff

19:30 <LibrarianofHope> its business, you can have art and business

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19:40 * Ali licks Dapper_Dappled noise

19:40 * Dapper_Dappled hugs the Ali.

19:48 * Dapper_Dappled grumbles hard. Just got off the phone with his mother who he hasn't had a real conversation with in the past... 5-8 years? So yay for ratcheting up my anxiety again.

19:54 * Ali snugs the Dapper_Dappled tightly

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20:12 <LibrarianofHope> need to sell a montblanc pen

20:12 <LibrarianofHope> i was given that as a keepsake from my dad

20:13 <LibrarianofHope> means nothign to me now

20:13 <LibrarianofHope> heck do i sell thaht

20:13 * LibrarianofHope bonks dappled

20:13 * Dapper_Dappled falls over. He has no idea.

20:14 <Dapper_Dappled> Ebay?

20:14 <LibrarianofHope> maybe

20:14 <LibrarianofHope> thing is limited edition

21:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Fallout: Equestria but God's Blessing on This Wonderful World [ https://tinyurl.com/yz398udr ]

21:08 <Ali> Schism, sadly that happens more often in my state than Ohio

21:08 <Schism> Ali: Woke up to a nice half-centimeter of snow this morning.

21:09 <Ali> There was a light dusting stuck to the ground here

21:09 <Schism> I used to live in Ohio and it did happen there, but stiiiiiill.

21:09 <Ali> Then it sleeted this afternoon

21:09 <Ali> And now its sunny

21:09 <Schism> And in Texas, there would also be hail.

21:09 <Ali> I remember as a kid

21:09 <Ali> That it rained, sleeted, and snowed in a matter of an hour.  During an outdoor field trip none the less.

21:11 <Schism> I lived in North Texas, this was what we call 'April and May'.

21:11 * Dapper_Dappled lives in Oklahoma, doesn't go outside if he doesn't have too

21:12 * Cepheid zuhs. Wakes up.

21:22 <Cepheid> I didn't think I'd actually fall asleep.

21:23 <LibrarianofHope> owo

21:24 <LibrarianofHope> mexico city is a hot as usaul

21:24 <LibrarianofHope> meaning a lot

21:33 <Cepheid> So did you hear about the guy who installs counters for a living?  He was just charged with counter fitting.

21:35 <Schism> Reminds me of the guy who assaulted folks with remixes of Eurodisco, remade to include profanity.  

21:36 <Cepheid> Heh.

21:36 <LibrarianofHope> two guys walk into a bar, second one ducks

21:36 <Schism> They were wondering whether to charge him with accounting crimes -- not many violent criminals make us of an ABBA cuss.

21:36 <Schism> use*

21:36 <LibrarianofHope> To whoever stole my antidepressants, hope you are happy now

21:37 * Schism hugs LibrarianofHope again. >_<

21:37 <LibrarianofHope> its a dad joke owo

21:37 <Schism> Oh.  owo;

21:37 <Cepheid> Oh gods.

21:37 <Dapper_Dappled> But how are you supposed to know it's a dad joke?

21:37 <Dapper_Dappled> When it's a parent.

21:38 <LibrarianofHope> owo

21:38 <LibrarianofHope> what are the best workers?

21:38 <LibrarianofHope> Gardeners

21:38 <LibrarianofHope> they are outstanding in their field

21:38 <Cepheid> ...

21:38 <Cepheid> What have I started?

21:38 <LibrarianofHope> i got more

21:39 <Dapper_Dappled> My DM made the mistake of having us fight Vrocks a couple sessions ago, I had material for hours on that one name.

21:39 <LibrarianofHope> i told my wife to embrace her mistakes

21:40 <LibrarianofHope> she gave me a hug

21:40 <LibrarianofHope> i also have a poem

21:40 <LibrarianofHope> i dig, you dig, she digs, we dig, they dig

21:40 <LibrarianofHope> its not a long poem

21:41 <LibrarianofHope> but its deep

21:41 * Lumindia bleps

21:41 <Schism> It doesn't work all that well over text, because it was originally written in a tunnel language.

21:42 <LibrarianofHope> i ran out of toilet paper, had to use old newspaper

21:42 <LibrarianofHope> the times are rough

21:46 <Schism> You might've been using the wrong section.  Everyone knows they ply their opinion section.

21:48 *** Joins: LibrarianofHope26 (Librarianof@Pony-inr.lo2.147.189.IP)

21:49 *** Quits: LibrarianofHope (Librarianof@Pony-cs3.902.207.187.IP) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)

21:49 * Finwe noms on Ali's tail.

21:49 *** LibrarianofHope26 is now known as LibrarianofHope

21:49 *** LibrarianofHope is now known as TotallyrealAli

21:50 * TotallyrealAli is cute

21:51 <TotallyrealAli> perfect disguise

21:51 <TotallyrealAli> owo

21:52 * Finwe noms on TotallyrealAli's tail.

21:52 <Finwe> Hey! This doesn't taste like it should.

21:53 <TotallyrealAli> omg! finwe is fainting from shock

21:53 * TotallyrealAli bonks finwe

21:54 * Finwe prepares to read some Pyramids and then fall asleep.

21:54 <Finwe> !lullaby

21:54 * DerpyBot carries Finwe off to bed

21:54 * DerpyBot tucks Finwe in and hums a lullaby

21:54 <Finwe> !shoo

21:54 * DerpyBot sways from side to side, quietly humming "shoo be doo shoo shoo be doo"

21:54 <Finwe> Good night, everypony!

21:54 <TotallyrealAli> night

21:54 * Finwe curls up on Ali and snoozes.

21:54 *** TotallyrealAli is now known as LibrarianofHope

21:54 * Ali flails

21:55 <LibrarianofHope> had my five minutes of dumb

21:56 <LibrarianofHope> there is only one ali, accept no substitutes

21:56 <LibrarianofHope> might contain cute

21:58 *** Joins: Dawn_Chaser (Prius@Pony-kfjlom.ipv6.telus.net)

21:59 <Dapper_Dappled> You know who else is cute? Dawn_Chaser.

22:00 <Dawn_Chaser> aaaaaaaaaaaa

22:00 <LibrarianofHope> chu

22:00 <LibrarianofHope> bless you

22:00 <Dawn_Chaser> my name got changed

22:00 *** Dawn_Chaser is now known as Sunrise_Flare

22:00 * Sunrise_Flare blerfs

22:00 <LibrarianofHope> hi

22:01 <LibrarianofHope> you seem new

22:01 <LibrarianofHope> did you got your call ali cute coupon?

22:01 *** Quits: Apple_Jack (Prius@Pony-131sjl.ipv6.telus.net) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)

22:01 <Ali> They're not new

22:01 * Dapper_Dappled hugs Sunrise_Flare for being a long time friend.

22:02 <Sunrise_Flare> I've been around

22:02 * Sunrise_Flare hoogs

22:03 * Dapper_Dappled joins a puppy in whining. She got left behind while the older dog goes to the vet. But all she knows is that her friend is gone and lots of whining.

22:06 * PinkieShy hugs Ali

22:06 <Sunrise_Flare> sounds fun

22:06 * LibrarianofHope gives everyone call ali cute coupouns anyway

22:07 <Dapper_Dappled> I love this interpretation of Pink Kryptonite, watch with sound: https://thearcanekitsu.tumblr.com/post/649104925115170816/ndiecity-wakandamama-heroesneedalancer

22:11 * Lumindia applies hugs to Ali pono

22:11 <Lumindia> o wo

22:11 <Lumindia> henlo

22:12 * Ali squeaks and hides under the Lumindia

22:12 <PinkieShy> Haha Vrchat horror map i was just on: "Hello?" -crash- xD

22:12 <Lumindia> kek

22:14 <LibrarianofHope> boooo

22:15 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3671 [ https://tinyurl.com/yj8uhyp8 ]

22:17 <Schism> harlo o3o

22:34 <Cepheid> With future decided...  *Noms coffee at 6:30.*  wonky sleep cycle goooooo

22:44 * Ali waits for a single assembler to make 300 LDS... Wants to rethink this option..

22:47 <Schism> Damnit.  Someone said, "Hey, anyone able to shave their neck without it being totally ... um, grindy?" and I realized I hadn't shaved in a while and now I have the worst razor burn.

22:49 * Cepheid shaves entire head smooth. o3o

22:50 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/emmadaboutlife/status/1384829749952868358?s=19 Schism

22:55 <LibrarianofHope> does the transition affect shaving schism?

22:56 <LibrarianofHope> im considering going shiny bald, made saitama powerfull

22:56 <LibrarianofHope> and im going bald

22:56 * LibrarianofHope does one punchhhhhh

22:56 *** Quits: ArchPegasusMichael (Poni@Keep.In.A.Friendly.And.Pony.Place) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)

22:58 <Cepheid> With respect to the head, estrogen can cause hair to start growing back in, from what I am told.  With respect to beards and moustaches, they require a bit more effort to stop.

22:59 <LibrarianofHope> owo

22:59 <LibrarianofHope> daily shaving must be a hassle

23:00 <LibrarianofHope> i tned to shave only after i look like a biblical prophet

23:01 <Cepheid> It can be a problem.  Razor burn is a thing.

23:07 <PinkieShy> oof

23:07 <PinkieShy> I have had that many of times >_>

23:07 <PinkieShy> It seems not to be a problem anymore though since going safety razor.. Single blade and correct angle really helps

23:21 *** Joins: ArchPegasusMichael (Poni@Keep.In.A.Friendly.And.Pony.Place)

23:24 * Schism giggles helplessly.

23:26 <Schism> I couldn't resist.  https://jenniferkayla.medium.com/it-hadnt-exactly-been-a-difficult-call-to-bring-in-the-extracurriculars-3f0840814bd9

23:34 *** Quits: LibrarianofHope (Librarianof@Pony-inr.lo2.147.189.IP) (Quit: Connection closed)

23:52 * Lumindia yawns, leans into Schism and snugs

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