00:01 <Cepheid> ...?
00:01 <Cepheid> Astera Fest & Holiday Joy Fest now.
00:01 <Cepheid> New festival I guess.
00:02 <Cepheid> Let's see what the event quests are.
00:03 <Cepheid> Looks like all event quests.
00:05 <Cepheid> Which is kinda good. There's one mantle I want to get. I'll need ADra's assistance getting it.
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00:10 <Cepheid> Welcome back ADragonDreaming.
01:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Fanfiction Updates - November 19 [ https://tinyurl.com/y5jzrx3g ]
02:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #2348 [ https://tinyurl.com/yyu8hnre ]
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02:26 <Dappled> ------------------- jp4
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06:13 <Cepheid> Tizzy, could ya not?
06:16 <NitroTheFurry> Huh?
06:16 <Schism> Cepheid has some cats who are... cats.
06:17 <Cepheid> Tizzy likes to try and get close to me, but the problem is, she likes to lick, which inevitably leads to biting. Most biting draws blood.
06:17 <Cepheid> I still love her despite this, but...
06:18 <Cepheid> Sometimes she can be a little needy.
06:18 <Cepheid> Pushes herself into my face, headbutts me all the time, etc.
06:18 <Cepheid> And her tongue is worse than the typical sandpaper tongue.
06:18 <Schism> And then whines when you pick her up and set her on your lap.
06:19 <Cepheid> Unless she's drugged to hell and back.
06:20 <Cepheid> In which case she doesn't fight being held or anything.
06:26 * Schism randomly slides a glass of chocolate milk to Cepheid.
06:27 * Cepheid noms.
06:32 <Schism> mgnh. Now I kind of want to play Golf with your Friends with Cepheid, and Adra, and maybe Rifty. And of course Ali.
06:43 * Cepheid touches blanket. A thunderstorm spontaneously comes into existence.
06:44 <Schism> Cepheid: Would you like to play a game of minigolf at some point?
06:44 <Cepheid> At some point, but not tonight. I am currently getting ready for sleep.
06:44 <Schism> Fair enough.
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06:47 <Finwe> Good morning, everypony!
06:47 <Finwe> Looks like we get some snow during the night.
06:48 <Finwe> Mlles Ali, Filly_Nightmares and Schism; Messrs Dappled, Lumindia_ and PinkieShy.
06:48 * Finwe doffs his hat.
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06:51 <Lumindia_> how do I disable audio pings in Quassel? ._.
06:52 <Lumindia_> Finwe, try pinging me again
07:05 <Golden> Turns out the Sly cooper collection on PS3 does not support dual shock 4.
07:06 <Golden> So my first sly game is thieves in time :T
07:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Ready to Score a Cutie Mark? - CMC Day Begins! [ https://tinyurl.com/y3txkp83 ]
07:25 * Schism attempts to make a putt next to Lumindia, but fails due to someone interfering.
07:27 <PinkieShy> aaaah :D
07:27 * Schism pokes PinkieShy with a golf putter!
07:27 <PinkieShy> Animaniacs 2020 is realeased!!! :D
07:27 <PinkieShy> I can watch it!! :D omg :D
07:28 <Schism> Mweep.
07:28 <PinkieShy> Maybe this is all 2020 really needs.. is a old 1990s cartoon rebooted so we can all have a good laugh :)
07:28 <PinkieShy> Learn to laugh and love again :3
07:34 <Schism> Sadly, they'll never bring back Freakazoid.
07:35 <Golden> It's time for Animaniacs~
07:37 * Cepheid is having trouble sleeping. Musics.
07:44 <Cepheid> I wonder how difficult it'd be to incorporate music and dance into combat.
07:49 <Schism> Not too hard. Have you looked into capoeira?
07:51 <Schism> Even bypassing that, a lot of martial arts have a certain rhythm to them, which define the styles.
07:51 <PinkieShy> heh
07:51 <PinkieShy> They just mentioned politics in a song on the show
07:51 <PinkieShy> err.. forget i said anything just realized that is itself a spoiler.
07:52 <Schism> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG1eF-O2go4
07:52 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
07:52 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Don't Tell Donald He's NOT RE-ELECTED TODAY! - Randy Rainbow Parody
07:53 <PinkieShy> Well good night <3
07:53 <Cepheid> Heh.
07:53 * PinkieShy is gotta be up at 8:30 in the morning
07:53 <Cepheid> But yeah, it's true that martial arts tends to follow a rhythm, a speed.
07:53 <PinkieShy> I'm so not a morning person but this is like on Must sadly
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07:55 <Cepheid> Reason I'm thinking about it, is that in some game, at some point in the future, I imagine a character basically listening to music, her eyes closed, dancing and moving about a room at a high speed, stabbing/shooting antagonists.
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07:57 <Schism> Just look at the katas, which are a series of movements in a rhythm.
07:58 <Schism> But yes, that sounds like a fun game. :3
08:05 * Ali puts a Skuntank on Schism, best pokemon cry ever.
08:06 <Schism> This might be the deepest cut I've yet to offer. https://twitter.com/theogrin/status/1329527213272797184
08:07 <Schism> And if you don't get it, don't worry. It's obscure.
08:10 * Schism also snuggles the Skuntank. It is, after all, cute.
08:43 * Finwe snuggles Ali. She is, after all. …
08:43 * Ali is not cute, and will have the Skuntank deal with those that keep calling her cute.
08:54 * Finwe smirks.
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09:44 <NitroTheFurry> Oh good lord
09:48 * Filly_Nightmares yawnskrees and uses Golden as bed
09:49 * Golden yawns a bit smiling.
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09:52 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
09:53 <NitroTheFurry> Hiya
10:03 * ConfusionRift waves then flops.
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11:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #2120 [ https://tinyurl.com/yywmr25v ]
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11:31 * Jackie purrs
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11:58 <ConfusionRift> Oooh, that R-Type Final 2 looking good. Oh, pre-orders are up. (looks at the price) I should keep control. Not now... maybe later...
11:59 <Schism> *looks at Disney's "Enchanted"* Yes, the main character's confusion at being in a Disney musical is about how I'd react.
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12:02 <Schism> "Look, I've never heard this song, how do they know this song, HOW DOES EVERYONE KNOW THIS SONG?!"
12:03 <ConfusionRift> Some major 4th wall breaking there. :P
12:04 <ConfusionRift> The birds are singing. Wait... the birds are singing?! AND THEY ALSO KNOW THIS SONG?!
12:04 <Schism> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRYU4cqUAUs
12:04 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
12:04 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about \\\"That's How You Know\\\" from Disney's ENCHANTED (Full Clip)
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12:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: CMC Day Discussion - Episode Ideas, Character Development and More! [ https://tinyurl.com/y2k5xn7v ]
12:11 <ConfusionRift> It's been so long.
12:14 <ConfusionRift> But yeah, this would definitely be the reaction of someone who's in a Disney film, without knowing it's a Disney film.
12:15 <Schism> Not to mention one who's a divorce attorney and an estranged father raising a young lady on his own.
12:16 <ConfusionRift> "I guess everyone's singing now...." (walks away) "...and following me..." (starts moving faster) "Leave me ALONE!" (starts running, with everyone singing and chasing him)
12:16 * Schism skips alongside ConfusionRift, "Because the world truly loves you~ o/`"
12:18 <Schism> "I don't dance, and I really don't sing.
12:19 <Schism> "As she tucked in her hair and observed herself critically in the mirror she sang a song. She sang in harmony. Not, of course, with her reflection in the glass, because that kind of heroine will sooner or later end up singing a duet with Mr. Bluebird and other forest creatures and then there’s nothing for it but a flamethrower."
12:19 <ConfusionRift> "I don't either!" (sees the birds getting close while singing) "How... AND WHY?!"
12:20 * Schism watches the birds drape garlands around ConfusionRift, then fly off.
12:42 <ConfusionRift> "Honey? Sorry I'm late, but there's like a parade... or something... just people singing and blocking the street. No, I'm serious. And the police is with them? What is going on!"
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12:48 <Lumindia> Mine
12:49 <LunaOfTheMoonLight> ...
12:50 * Schism squeaks, is stolen.
12:54 * Lumindia snuggles muchly
12:54 <Lumindia> awawaa
12:54 <Lumindia> schism such a soft
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13:46 <Cyan_Spark> Razor? :(
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14:21 <Cyan_Spark> Razor the investor!
14:22 <Cyan_Spark> Have to do laundry though, brb
14:23 * uni flops atop Cyan_Spark
14:23 <uni> heyo!
14:26 <RazorSharpFang> Hey heys.
14:31 <RazorSharpFang> NYSE is open now
14:34 <Cyan_Spark> Hi uni!
14:34 <Cyan_Spark> I think the market's gonna favor bitcoin more
14:35 <Cyan_Spark> Bitcoin and Tesla
14:35 <RazorSharpFang> Bought back a put on Micron Technologies at 50% profit level
14:35 <RazorSharpFang> I haven't touched bitcoin yet. Probably won't unless my broker supports options on it.
14:44 * Filly_Nightmares uses Cyan_Spark as bed and Butter uni as a pillow and goes sleepies on!
14:44 * Filly_Nightmares purrs happily
14:44 <Cyan_Spark> Nini Filly_Nightmares
14:44 * Filly_Nightmares murr!
14:45 * Schism wraps Filly_Nightmares in burrito blankets!
14:45 * Filly_Nightmares purrs and sleepies in warms!
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14:51 <Cyan_Spark> Is RazorSharpFang a wolf?
14:53 <RazorSharpFang> No, but I can't think of any animals that I really connect with either.
14:53 <RazorSharpFang> Closest is probably a Rabbit though.
14:55 <Cyan_Spark> A sharp fanged rabbit? Huh.
14:57 <RazorSharpFang> They do need sharp teeth to eat grass. Rabbit bites do hurt.
14:57 * Cyan_Spark nods
14:58 <RazorSharpFang> Locked in some more gains today. Market's given me some good fills so far.
15:00 <Cyan_Spark> I'm less comfortable doing contra-sells
15:00 <PinkieShy> Last night i was so worried sick i didn't sleep at all :(
15:00 <PinkieShy> Probably only 2 hours of sleep..
15:00 <Cyan_Spark> Because I guess if I do badly on a buy I can always wait it out
15:01 <Cyan_Spark> Aw
15:01 * Schism points at RazorSharpFang. "What, behind the rabbit?" "It is the rabbit!"
15:01 <Cyan_Spark> What's bothering you, PinkieShy?
15:01 <PinkieShy> In those 2 hours though.. My dog Todd invaded my dreams xD I dreamt i was getting licked a ton and giving him headpats in the dream for that
15:02 <PinkieShy> Cyan_Spark just a bill at the time was worried about it having to be late for a few days.. This morning though a way to pay it back forth and now i can relax :)
15:02 <PinkieShy> Scared of being late on bills ever basically
15:02 * Cyan_Spark nods
15:08 <Cyan_Spark> Well, markets look pretty red today
15:09 <Cyan_Spark> Walmart is down, I wonder...
15:09 <Cyan_Spark> Will holiday spending increase confidence?
15:09 <RazorSharpFang> My P/L is up 0.66% today
15:09 <RazorSharpFang> Closed some positions, trying to open other positions.
15:10 <PinkieShy> I'm scared to go into restaurants lately even for take out if there is alot of people inside
15:10 <PinkieShy> Zaxbys a week ago had like line all the way out the door and I just turned around and went back to the car.
15:10 <PinkieShy> Not going to risk it even if people were wearing a facemask..
15:10 <RazorSharpFang> I actually don't eat out very often at all. It's a bit expensive.
15:11 <PinkieShy> I maybe eat out once or twice a week
15:11 <PinkieShy> Heck that's much lower than what it used to be though
15:12 <PinkieShy> Added it up when we was eating out maybe 3+ nights back in like 2014 and the journal i kept with eating out totals added up to be like $300.93 spent eating out..
15:12 <Cyan_Spark> Animal spirits, animal spirits...
15:12 <PinkieShy> In the timeframe of one month.
15:12 <PinkieShy> Adds up.. Scare quick..
15:12 <Cyan_Spark> Indeed, PinkieShy
15:12 <Cyan_Spark> Is something preventing you from eating home-cooked meals?
15:13 <PinkieShy> That was in 2014 though lol
15:13 <PinkieShy> But yea we eat home cooked meals more and more lately
15:13 <PinkieShy> Maybe less now having to wait on the stove to get fixed or replaced by landlord though....
15:13 <PinkieShy> I mean at least the oven still works and the left side of the stove does.
15:14 <Cyan_Spark> Owh
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15:22 <Cyan_Spark> Hey RazorSharpFang, what influences your decision to buy or sell a stock?
15:23 <RazorSharpFang> That's a difficult question because I'm not doing all that much buying/selling of the underlying stocks themselves. Remember I trade options primarily right now.
15:24 <Cyan_Spark> Well, what influences your decision to uh, buy options?
15:24 <RazorSharpFang> I have a set of stocks that I'm trading options on. These are mostly big settled companies like Exxon Mobil, AT&T, Chevron Co, Realty Income Co, First Solar, Intel, AMD, Micron Technologies etc
15:25 <RazorSharpFang> My first rule: If they haven't made a profit in any quarter ever I am not buying in.
15:26 <RazorSharpFang> Now, I usually "buy in" (Sell puts against) when the stock has dropped in the current trading day.
15:27 <Cyan_Spark> "Haven't made a profit in any quarter ever"?
15:28 <Cyan_Spark> That's pretty harsh
15:28 <RazorSharpFang> I'm not a penny stock speculator.
15:28 <RazorSharpFang> They have to have made money once.
15:29 <RazorSharpFang> You might be reading the inverse.
15:30 <RazorSharpFang> Tsla for instance is now eligible because I believe they've recorded at least 1 quarter of profit.
15:31 <Cyan_Spark> Tesla has had quarters /without/ profit in the past, though
15:31 <RazorSharpFang> Right, but I require at least one quarter on which they had profit before I will consider them.
15:32 <Cyan_Spark> Ah
15:32 <Cyan_Spark> Oh I misunderstood
15:32 <Cyan_Spark> I thought you meant if the company had made a loss at all you wouldn't consider them
15:33 <RazorSharpFang> Aha
15:37 <RazorSharpFang> Somehow my broker gives Exxon Mobil and Chevron Co neutral on "Clean Air" but Yolo (Cannabis ETF) is hurting the air. How???
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16:07 <Cyan_Spark> Staying up later tonight, RazorSharpFang?
16:07 <RazorSharpFang> A little bit, but not by much.
16:07 <RazorSharpFang> It's Friday evening I can sleep in
16:08 <Cyan_Spark> Mhm
16:09 <Cyan_Spark> Observing the markets, I guess?
16:09 <uni> RazorSharpFang, maybe it's carbon offsets?
16:09 <RazorSharpFang> uni, I actually don't buy carbon offsets. That just sounds fake to me.
16:09 <uni> yeah it's a silly system
16:10 <uni> I was meaning maybe the company buys carbon offsets, which leads to a good rating
16:10 <Cyan_Spark> What a meme https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/jxlfks/when_my_moderna_puts_nearly_bankrupt_me_so_i/
16:13 <RazorSharpFang> Nice.
16:13 <RazorSharpFang> Probably bought puts, and then bought calls.
16:13 <RazorSharpFang> So far, I've never opened an options position by buying to open.
16:14 <Cyan_Spark> I'm somewhat certain the US stock market can't stay detached from reality for this long
16:14 <Cyan_Spark> Yet at the same time I don't see else where the cash can flow to
16:14 <RazorSharpFang> Probably. I'm prepared to buy the dip. There's always government bonds.
16:16 <Cyan_Spark> I'm preparing to buy the dip too, which means not buying stocks is a valid play
16:16 <Cyan_Spark> but... dang those gains
16:16 <Cyan_Spark> Government bonds are at terrible interest rates at this time
16:17 <RazorSharpFang> Yeah, it hurts.
16:17 <Cyan_Spark> Unless the money can flow foreign?
16:17 <RazorSharpFang> It probably can, but it would influence the forex exchange rate.
16:18 * Cyan_Spark eyes gold bars
16:19 <RazorSharpFang> Sell puts on gold. :thinking:
16:20 <Cyan_Spark> Why?
16:20 <RazorSharpFang> That position is profitable if gold does anything except drop before the put expires.
16:21 <Cyan_Spark> Oh, right, opposites
16:22 <Cyan_Spark> Maybe I'll buy gold stocks, but I do want a bar of shiny to hold too :3
16:22 <Cyan_Spark> Maybe I'll get an ounce for 2k
16:23 <Cyan_Spark> My net worth is actually not even enough for a whole gold bar X3
16:23 <RazorSharpFang> Most of my net worth is still in Australian stocks.
16:23 <RazorSharpFang> If this trajectory continues, I'll be 50-50 by end of this year.
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16:29 <RazorSharpFang> Sleep time for me, we'll see what I wake up to tomorrow.
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20:07 * Cepheid flops.
20:07 <Cepheid> Ativan + Seroquel interact, apparently, so if I take ativan, I have to reduce the dose of the seroquel.
20:12 <Cepheid> Though my mother's more inclined to believe I just needed a lot of sleep.
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20:17 <Cepheid> Oh OW. IBM POWER9 CPUs have a new speculative execution bug that requires flushing the L1 data cache when crossing priviledge boundaries. This is... going to impact performance big time for them.
20:18 <NitroTheFurry> Um
20:18 <NitroTheFurry> Could you maybe dumb that down to a newbie coder perspective?
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20:24 <Cepheid> L1 cache is cache closest to the CPU, and thus, in comparison to memory, is extremely fast to access. Typically, it's split into instruction and data cache. Basically, any time the CPU switches from one ring of security to another, it has to clear the L1 data cache. Such switching of rings typically includes things like invoking system calls from a user application, the kernel executing code, or switching back from kernel
20:24 <Cepheid> code to user application code.
20:25 <Cepheid> It costs time to bring that data back into the cache, which will cause the CPU to stall.
20:26 <Cepheid> Thus, basically, any time you do a system call, or invoke something that requires a system call, such as reading from or writing to a file, it's going to impact performance.
20:26 <PinkieShy> hihi :)
20:27 <PinkieShy> Back from my nap. :3
20:28 <Cepheid> That all said..
20:28 <Cepheid> It's not much for *US* to worry about. POWER9 CPUs tend not to be consumer grade CPUs.
20:29 <Cepheid> Usually they're used exclusively in data center servers, or supercomputers.
20:29 <NitroTheFurry> Ah, got it
20:29 <NitroTheFurry> Thank you
20:30 <Ali> Do they even use the North and South bridges anymore?
20:32 <Cepheid> While a distinct north and south bridge may not be used anymore, something akin to them is still utilized. Let me double check, though.
20:33 <Cepheid> Yeah, they've been combined into one, now.
20:33 <Cepheid> It's called just a "chipset"
20:33 <Cepheid> So the X470 chipset, X570 and so on.
20:33 <Cepheid> Which itself is a singular chip, in this case.
20:37 <Cepheid> Apparently the reason being a bottleneck.
20:38 <Cepheid> So they combined the two onto a single chip. Initial versions appear to have been a literal case of combining two separate chips onto a single die, and utilizing a high-speed, or short-distance interconnect to deal with the bottleneck.
20:39 <Cepheid> But later revisions quite literally started integrating the two more directly, and in even more recent cases, even started integrating some of it onto the CPU instead.
20:49 <PinkieShy> I might get my mom flowers delievered next month for her birthday :3
20:49 <PinkieShy> I don't think she'll see flowers coming as a gift for her ever.
20:54 <Cepheid> With the way you worded that, I can't tell if you're being mean, or being polite.
20:54 <Cepheid> Though I'm erring towards the latter, given your personality.
20:56 <PinkieShy> No no i mean it in a nice way
20:57 <PinkieShy> She has told me before she loves flowers.
20:57 <PinkieShy> Of course I'll get her something else along with that for her birthday though :)
20:57 <PinkieShy> Just want her to be happy
20:57 <Cepheid> Like I said, I erred towards polite/nice.
20:57 <Cepheid> Much as you have the occasional problem with your mother, you don't strike me as someone who can be angry.
20:58 <PinkieShy> I mean everybody has arguments with family from time to time. :)
21:04 <NitroTheFurry> Until they don't have any :D
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21:19 <Cepheid> I was not aware that downloading something required 100+% CPU usage.
21:20 <PinkieShy> I just hope giving flowers to my mom on her birthday won't look awkward.. but probably alot of people do it
21:23 <PinkieShy> I've never seen 100% CPU usage on downloads unless it was installing bit by bit as it downloads..
21:24 <Cepheid> I suspect it's an issue with Steam, or possibly mitigations with respect to the CPU.
21:25 <Cepheid> Which seems probable, given I have mitigations enabled.
21:28 <Cepheid> Disabling them did improve CPU usage, but usage is still over 100%. Mind, Linux CPU usage percentages are a bit different from Windows.
21:28 <Cepheid> On CPU, each core has a usage percentage, and those percentages are summed to give the final CPU usage percentage for a given process.
21:29 <Cepheid> So, for example, if I have 8 cores, and a process is using 50% of each of them, the total CPU usage reported for that process would be 400%.
21:33 <Cepheid> I don't recall Windows doing that, but I haven't looked in recent days, so..
21:36 <Cepheid> There is zero way this game I am trying out will run on this laptop. I spent 15 minutes downloading it just to see how badly my laptop bursts into flames.
21:37 * ADragonDreaming wonders how to send e-mails to the President-elect's team
21:37 * ADragonDreaming decides to text one of the 700 people who texted him in the run-up to the election
21:37 <Cepheid> I would assume that there is a website for him, that provides a generic email to the team.
21:37 <ADragonDreaming> yeah but I'm working.
21:37 <Cepheid> Okay, I need a power adapter or my laptop's gonna run out of power in 26 minutes.
21:38 <ADragonDreaming> And they bothered me so I get to bother them back.
21:42 <Cepheid> First off, the game runs at 12 FPS.
21:42 <Cepheid> At the main menu.
21:42 <ADragonDreaming> what game?
21:43 <Cepheid> X4.
21:43 <Cepheid> At minimum graphics settings, I got it going at 22 FPS. If I reduce the resolution to 720p..
21:44 <Cepheid> 40-44 FPS.
21:44 <Cepheid> So playable. Exceeeeppppt...
21:45 <Cepheid> An image screams ten thousand words here, so..
21:46 <Cepheid> https://i.imgur.com/zbjAJNY.jpg
21:46 <Cepheid> Something's gone wrong.
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21:56 <Lumindia> o-oh dear
21:56 <Lumindia> what happened there
21:58 <ADragonDreaming> yeah, those colors are all wonkified.
21:59 <Cepheid> Those aren't coloring glitches.
21:59 <Cepheid> For some reason, textures simply aren't being rendered within a certain distance.
21:59 <Cepheid> What you're seeing are, what I assume, are either vertex coloring for the polygons, or some sort of normal data.
22:00 <Cepheid> I assume this because of the consistency in which the X and circled 4 are with respect to coloring. It's something related to shadowing and light.
22:01 <Cepheid> And the fact that there *ARE* textures being rendered properly.
22:01 <Cepheid> So it's something with respect to the shaders themselves. The shaders are busted.
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22:13 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, Stellaris runs just fine at medium quality options. o3o
22:16 <Cepheid> I'm surprised at how some games run versus others.
22:16 <Cepheid> I sometimes wonder if they're assuming certain details.
22:17 <Cepheid> For example. Stellaris and a number of other games run just fine.
22:17 <Cepheid> But a game with lower detail, such as Rise of Industry, runs like arse.
22:18 <Cepheid> Makes me wonder if these games assume certain details, and don't check certain details to account for performance.
22:18 <Cepheid> For example, I learned within the last few months that GPUs have a "recommended" maximum number of vertices in a given buffer.
22:19 <Cepheid> If you exceed this, performance drops considerably. To get around it, you have to break up large sets of vertices into smaller subsets.
22:19 <Cepheid> The number of vertices can be queried.
22:20 <Cepheid> And the difference is considerable. I went from a few hundred FPS to over a few thousand after implementing this optimization, and it wasn't even implemented in an optimal manner.
22:23 <Cepheid> An optimal manner would have been to use multiple buffer objects, loading each one with a set of N vertices, and then drawing. Instead, I simply repeatedly used the same buffer, reloading it with new data every N vertices, then drawing it.
22:23 <Cepheid> But, that increases the complexity a bit, so..
22:26 <Cepheid> In any case, for example, my laptop's limit is 3,000 vertices. Exceed that, performance drops.
22:28 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, typical, non-integrated GPUs probably have a much higher limit. Probably 10,000+
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22:39 <Cepheid> I'd have to run a program on say, my PC, to test.
22:40 <Lumindia> so uh....
22:40 <Cepheid> Though I could probably find out with something like the realtech-vr OpenGL Extension Viewer.
22:40 <Lumindia> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/184015343549677568/779475896989909002/image0.jpg My roommate got me this as a joke
22:40 <Cepheid> Heh.
22:46 <Cepheid> You'd think with the chronic sinus problems I have, that I'd remember to take medication that helps me cope with them.
22:57 <Cepheid> Oh gods.
22:57 <Cepheid> 10cm of snow is expected on Sunday.
23:00 <ADragonDreaming> huzzah!
23:01 * Schism rolls into the channel, and provides Lumindia, Cepheid, and ADragonDreaming with some strawberry-rhubarb pie.
23:01 * Cepheid noms.
23:01 * Lumindia boops Schism with an applejack bobblehead
23:02 <Cepheid> You know, I really wish governments would discourage family meetings for stuff like Christmas, instead of going "If we change things now, we may..."
23:02 <Cepheid> Just... discourage it, straight up.
23:03 <Cepheid> Otherwise, the only other forseeable problem I see right now, is the vaccine rollout. Once it starts rolling out, I expect people to assume that the effect is immediate, and will start ignoring quarantine orders and such after they get the vaccine.
23:05 <Lumindia> yeah, my family is still trying to figure out thanksgiving, considering we have two at-risk people in our immediate family
23:06 <Cepheid> My advice? Stick only to the family that's in the same house as you.
23:06 <Cepheid> It's unfortunate, but it's the best way to handle it.
23:08 <ADragonDreaming> We've ended up canceling get-togethers. Will be sticking to just the people regularly in the house.
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23:09 <ADragonDreaming> Better a lonely thanksgiving than a Christmas funeral.
23:12 <Cepheid> No get-togethers here for any holidays.
23:12 <Cepheid> Even Christmas.
23:12 <Cepheid> My sister's staying away, as well.
23:13 <ADragonDreaming> Dunno what Christmas will be like, either.
23:13 <Cepheid> Our Thanksgiving was entirely local to this house last month.
23:13 <Cepheid> Really, my biggest concern is that on occasion, my parents still visit my grandmother and my uncle.
23:14 <Cepheid> And my dad's still doing his job, which involves visiting random people and companies, going into their homes/buildings, and repairing laptops, etc.
23:14 <Cepheid> That said, the employer is being somewhat active in regards to that. They regularly deliver shipments of surgical and N95 masks, hand sanitizer, gloves, and the like.
23:20 * Cepheid goes to head upstairs.
23:25 <Cepheid> Have to get away from the TV downstairs. Parents want to watch the news, and honestly, listening to it with respect to C19 is really, REALLY agitating me.
23:26 <ADragonDreaming> Aye
23:28 <Cepheid> Oof. Yeah, the recommended vertex limit on a discrete card is much higher.
23:29 <Cepheid> On my laptop, it's ~3000 vertices.
23:29 <Cepheid> On this PC with an RTX 2060, it's 1,048,576.
23:30 <Cepheid> Max texture size... 32,768x32,768. Man, I'm not even sure any game USES a texture size that large.
23:32 <Cepheid> Even with mods enabled, highest that Factorio uses is 16384x16384.
23:33 <Cepheid> And I even *TOLD* it to use 32768x32768 as it's maximum.
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23:47 <Cepheid> ... Hey, hey Steam. Thanks for notifying me of that message. I didn't see it until I was ingame and the ingame friends list told me I had received a message on Tuesday. Outside of a game, the friend list showed NOTHING.
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23:50 <Cepheid> Hum, so if Ubisoft is discarding Ubisoft Connect, what does that mean for all the games that currently depend upon it, even when run from Steam?
23:51 <Cepheid> Oh, wait.
23:51 <Cepheid> It's something else entirely. Got confused there.
23:51 <Cepheid> It's not Ubisoft Connect, it's Unity Connect, which is Unity Engine's social platform.
23:51 <Cepheid> That makes more sense.
23:52 <Cepheid> Actually right now, I should load up World and try to get that input configuration I had in mind working.
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23:54 <PinkieShy> neat..
23:54 <PinkieShy> GTA gun shooting is alot faster and easier with a mouse instead of just xbox controller. :3
23:54 <Cepheid> Interesting. It seems that the Wheel that you can bring up is explicitly bound to Middle Mouse Button, regardless of what you do.
23:55 <Cepheid> PinkieShy: You have no idea. Mouse controls can basically aim a camera however fast the mouse reports inputs and such, so yeah.
23:57 * Cepheid looks for text file configuration data for MHWorld.
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