Log archive of EquestriaDaily for Friday, 2020-12-04

00:17 * Schism watches a Banbaro run about cutely.

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00:27 <ADragonDreaming> comme ca?

00:27 <ADragonDreaming> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56jUTbT9_3Q

00:27 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Monstie Shots: It's BanBaRo time! (The Full Parody Song)

00:28 <Schism> That's the one.

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01:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Say Something Nice About Moondancer [ https://tinyurl.com/y2uk98qp ]

01:44 <ADragonDreaming> alright. Let's try out this movie collaboration quest.

02:01 <Finwe> !lullaby

02:01 * DerpyBot carries Finwe off to bed

02:01 * DerpyBot tucks Finwe in and hums a lullaby

02:01 <Finwe> !shoo

02:01 * DerpyBot sways from side to side, quietly humming "shoo be doo shoo shoo be doo"

02:01 <Finwe> Good night, everypony!

02:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #2362 [ https://tinyurl.com/y5qnwa7h ]

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04:18 * Cepheid crashes into the room.

04:18 <Cepheid> Just got back from the hospital.

04:24 * ADragonDreaming hugs

04:26 <Cepheid> I feel like I fell out of the murder tree, hit every branch on the way down, and then was mauled by an angry swarm of squirrels.

04:29 <ADragonDreaming> I can understand that.

04:34 <Cepheid> On the bright side I'll have nice red, purple and brown bruises all over my arms tomorrow.  o3o

04:37 <ADragonDreaming> Oh dear :(

04:37 <Cepheid> Those walls had it coming.  I also discovered that their cameras apparently are either not watched, or are not functional, because no one came to stop me.

04:42 <Cepheid> In any case, no broken bones or anything.  Just swelling and bruising.

04:43 * Cepheid looks up. "Yeah, that's a tad too cute for Safi."

04:47 <ADragonDreaming> I tried some of the Kulve Taroth siege. It's... funky. It could do with an actual match-making system.

04:48 <Cepheid> Mmm, that is the biggest issue with the seiges, yes.

04:49 <ADragonDreaming> Also the movie collab event quests dropped. They're... not what I would call particularly special.

04:50 <Cepheid> Heh.

04:51 <ADragonDreaming> though the armor set is designed as an all-rounded utility.

04:51 <ADragonDreaming> 2 pieces gets you vampiric blows.

04:52 <ADragonDreaming> 4 pieces gets you increased quest rewards (like the gala set)

04:52 <ADragonDreaming> also has recovery 3, health boost 4, earplugs 4, and some others. Plus 10 or 5 resist to all elements.

04:53 <ADragonDreaming> *health boost 3, not 4

04:53 <Cepheid> Not bad.

04:54 <ADragonDreaming> I don't know that it boosted my desire to watch the movie.

04:55 <Cepheid> I'm likely to watch it as a form of watching a B-movie.

04:55 <Cepheid> Which means it will be seen sooner or later, thanks to my mother.

04:56 <ADragonDreaming> Aye, perhaps.

05:01 <ADragonDreaming> Armor sets left to collect: Glavenus; then it's mostly just the elder dragons and the post-guiding lands things.

05:02 <Cepheid> Fun.

05:02 <Cepheid> In the meantime, I'm gonna flop into bed and get some sleep.  Lots of it.

05:03 <ADragonDreaming> Aye, is sleep time for me as well.

05:03 <ADragonDreaming> May yours be restful

05:03 <Cepheid> Indeed.

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08:54 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.

08:55 <NitroTheFurry> Hiya

08:59 <Golden> Hey

09:02 * ConfusionRift wavies.

09:21 <ConfusionRift> Another day of "not sure what to do".

09:22 * Golden flops.

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11:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #2134 [ https://tinyurl.com/yysufhtw ]

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12:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Good Morning [ https://tinyurl.com/yyntzdqa ]

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12:24 <Lumindia> Hey, guess what everyone

12:25 <ConfusionRift> Hmmm?

12:25 <Lumindia> You're all cute! :D

12:25 <ConfusionRift> Aw, chucks. :P

12:26 <Lumindia>

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13:03 <ConfusionRift> This always gets me about Starbound.

13:06 <ConfusionRift> "Oh, thank you for finding me. Please take me to my friend. They must be desperately looking for me." | ...how?! | "Well, I got lost and-" | How did you get here?! We're but a few feet away from the planet's core, and somehow you got lost and made your way into an enclosed room with no exits? | "Yeah? Doesn't everyone?" | I... you make a good point.

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13:14 <Deathagor> lmao

13:15 <Deathagor> how do u get in if u can u get in with no exits lol

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13:27 <ConfusionRift> Not a clue. All I know is that it's a recurring thing.

13:29 <Deathagor> Or.. The teleportation device broke when he traveled there

13:29 <Deathagor> lol

13:37 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift, Capt Koopz.

13:37 <Finwe> o7

13:38 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)

14:02 <Koopz> RAdm. Finwe o7

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14:21 <Cyan_Spark> Razor the investor

14:22 <Deathagor> I just found out something really major here

14:23 <Deathagor> Lucifer is my grandfather

14:24 <Deathagor> Since Mazikeen is mother and her mother was Lilith. Luci is my father.

14:24 <RazorSharpFang> Hey heys

14:24 <Deathagor> i mean grandfather*

14:24 <Cyan_Spark> If it's not about ∮FdΓ = ∬∇×F·dS extending to higher dimensions and into tensor space I don't wanna hear anything called "major"

14:25 <Deathagor> ok fine i found out some info

14:25 <Deathagor> So luci

14:26 <Deathagor> Luci´s brother Amenadiel did the nasty with my mother

14:26 <Cyan_Spark> Who is Lucifer, anyway?

14:27 <Finwe> Lightbearer.

14:27 * Cyan_Spark tilts head

14:27 <Deathagor> the devil

14:28 <Deathagor> watch lucifer on netflix and u will quickly understand the bible

14:28 <Deathagor> anyway

14:29 <ADragonDreaming> Is this in a game?

14:29 <Deathagor> wdym

14:29 <ADragonDreaming> I'm confused about the context here.

14:29 <ADragonDreaming> Are you talking about a game?

14:30 <Deathagor> restart info

14:30 <Deathagor> no

14:30 <Deathagor> I am a celestial/demon

14:30 <ADragonDreaming> This isn't an RP channel, my friend.

14:30 <Deathagor> ok

14:30 <Deathagor> lol

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15:26 <ADragonDreaming> I would also strongly recommend *not* getting your information on the Bible from a fantasy netflix show.

15:26 <ADragonDreaming> That would be rather like learning about history strictly from the Assassin's Creed games.

15:27 <Deathagor> Sometimes i mention the show but mostly I do get my info from the Holy Bible

15:27 <ADragonDreaming> I wouldn't refer people to the show for information about the Bible either.

15:28 <Deathagor> then again it is rp

15:28 <ADragonDreaming> nor would I take any media depictions of "lucifer" as informative or verified.

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15:53 <RazorSharpFang> Obviously everything in Helltaker is 100% true.

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16:37 <Cepheid> I am going to shank the person who owns that car with the alarm that will not stop going off.

16:37 <Schism> I suggest an icepick, if you have one lying around.

16:38 * Schism imagines Cepheid walking up to the car, jamming the icepick into it, and striding calmly away as the alarm slowly peters out.

16:38 <Cepheid> The car alarm's been going off all evening, and it's currently going off now and the owner hasn't done anything about it.

16:39 <Schism> Uergh.

16:39 * Schism offers Cepheid a cup of coffee with Kahlua.

16:41 <Cepheid> Stopped for all of 30 seconds before going off again.

16:41 <Schism> Like a fire alarm that keeps beeping at random intervals.  ._.

16:45 <Finwe> Mesdemoiselles Cepheid and Schism.

16:45 * Finwe doffs his hat.

16:46 <Schism> rAdm. Finwe.

16:46 * Schism doffs her omelet.

16:52 <ADragonDreaming> Perhaps the car was stolen and dumped?

16:52 <Cepheid> Nope.

16:52 <Cepheid> It finally stopped, sounds like.

16:56 <ADragonDreaming> Blessed relief.

16:56 <ADragonDreaming> Mind it's also possible the alarm system itself was just busted.

16:57 <ADragonDreaming> Had a situation like that on my street a while back; was out walking, saw someone was working on the car, probably to get the alarm to stop wigging out.

16:59 <Cepheid> Possibly.

16:59 <Cepheid> Given the extreme frequency of it going off, it's either faulty, has a bug, or is extremely sensitive.

17:00 <Schism> Why not all three?

17:01 <Cepheid> Could also be new car owner with no idea how the alarm works and how to configure it.

17:05 * Schism passes Cepheid a jar of peperoncini.

17:06 * Cepheid nons them from the jar.

17:06 <Cepheid> Not pickles!

17:06 <Schism> I would do the same right now, to be sure.  Not because of any hormonal stuff -- yet -- but because peperoncini.

17:07 <Schism> And I see Mae's hair is longer in this one now.  Heh.

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17:08 <Cepheid> I am known for eating entire jars in a day.

17:08 <Schism> Indeed.  Though I'd mix it up with some sharp cheddar, myself.

17:08 <Schism> Maybe some cold cuts too.

17:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Episode Rewatch - Season 5 Episode 5 - 6 - Tanks for the Memories / Appleoosa's Most Wanted [ https://tinyurl.com/y6f3bzob ]

17:32 <Finwe> There, today's Advent of Code problem solved: https://pastebin.com/6jQ9UBPQ

17:32 <Finwe> I already needed twice as much source as yesterday.

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17:41 <Finwe> Lt Pony|49843.

17:41 <Finwe> o7

17:41 * Pony|49843 wavewave.

17:44 <Schism> MLP Loop 100.9 is a little frightening.

17:49 * Cepheid covers up in blankets. "Anyone get the name of that murder tree I fell out of? What of the squirrels part of that swarm that mauled me?"

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18:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Fanfiction: Tell My Wife I Said "Hello" [ https://tinyurl.com/yywh5fyh ]

18:14 * Cepheid gives Schism a jar of pickles.

18:15 <Cepheid> So, hey, guess what's going off again in the neighborhood?

18:15 * Schism places them on a platter with some summer sausage, smoked cheddar, pickled green beans, radishes, and asparagus, as well as some fried dough wraps filled with a sort of cream cheese blend.

18:15 <NitroTheFurry> Car alarm?

18:16 <Schism> Typical... right when you think it' sover.

18:16 <Schism> it's over*

18:16 <Cepheid> Yep.  And it's still going, and going, and going.

18:19 <Schism> I wish it weren't too much to hope that it would completely drain the batteries.

18:23 <Cepheid> Stopped... and.... there it goes again. o3o

18:24 * Schism reads 'Peace Talks', because it's been a while since she's read a Dresden Files story. She giggles at this line, "Everyone wants someone to make us pancakes. We're just too grown-up to say it out loud."

18:29 <Cepheid> Hum, the bruising wasn't as bad or as interesting as I thought it'd be.

18:29 <Cepheid> Reddish-circle with a brownish exterior.

18:30 <Schism> Eh, give it time, I'm sure it'll be a bit more interesting soon.

18:31 <Schism> Cepheid: I am glad that you managed to... well, take out your anger on the walls.

18:31 <Cepheid> Somewhere deep inside me is a lock that keeps me from taking it out on people.  Though I did yell a lot and threaten one of the security.

18:34 <Schism> Well, it has been quite a while since you've decompressed that spring at least.

18:35 <Cepheid> Did learn that their cameras don't seem to work, or they weren't paying attention.

18:36 <Cepheid> As no one actually ever came in to stop me when I was venting against the wall.

18:36 <Schism> It's possible that they might be thinking, "Those walls are tough, let them wear themselves out first."

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18:37 <Schism> Which admittedly shows a rather stunning lack of accountability on one level.

18:37 <Cepheid> When they were in the room, they actively tried to stop me.

18:38 <Schism> Hmm.  Okay, I'm prescribing positive motives to them which I guess I oughtn't.

18:39 <Cepheid> I mean, it's entirely possible the cameras weren't working.  Hospital seemed a little underfunded and understaffed.

18:39 <Schism> Oh.  These days, what isn't?

18:41 <Cepheid> https://imgur.com/gallery/i6LqnTy

18:41 <Cepheid> That's a dead end job right there.

18:43 <Cepheid> The Reaper must just love him.

18:43 <Cepheid> "Are you dead for real this time?"

18:43 <Cepheid> "No, no.  Just another gig."

18:43 <Schism> "Guess!"

18:52 <Cepheid> My mother apparently called the landlord office to see about the car going nutso.

18:53 <Schism> Oh, nice.

18:55 <Cepheid> I like when people spout crazy world-based conspiracy theories, and follow up with "WAKE UP AMERICA!"  ... Okay, I'm Canadian, I'm just gonna go over here in bed and stay asleep, then.

18:56 <Cepheid> According to Ottawa By-Law, a car alarm going off for more than 5 minutes straight is a violation of the noise bylaw.

18:56 <Schism> Obligatory XKCD.  https://xkcd.com/1013/

18:57 <Schism> Ooh.

18:58 <Finwe> The Sheep of Babylon. o3o

18:58 <Finwe> *baaa*

18:59 <Cepheid> Core of the problem there though is I need to go out, find the car, get it's license plate, and where it is, etc.

19:00 <Schism> Well, finding the car sounds like it'd be easy.  Er.  ...not intentional.

19:00 <Finwe> A sound solution. o3o

19:01 <Cepheid> https://imgur.com/gallery/8SADBcI

19:03 <Cepheid> https://imgur.com/gallery/OVTp1HD

19:06 <Finwe> Otterly adorable.

19:07 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/LuminousOcean/status/1334937311981805568

19:09 <ADragonDreaming> ...he awoke and chose violence, apparently.

19:09 <ADragonDreaming> (in reference to the imgur post)

19:09 <Cepheid> Heh.

19:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend - Equestria Girls / Anthro MLP Art Gallery #249 [ https://tinyurl.com/y2zormk7 ]

19:09 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pzcqZTVfDI This is the video in the background.  Ys Oath in Felghana(AKA:  Ys 3 remake) soundtrack.

19:09 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

19:10 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Ys: The Oath in Felghana OST - The Strongest Foe

19:10 <Cepheid> Falcom seems to have some pretty good musicians.

19:12 <Finwe> Cepheid: As I predicted, Advent of Code is getting more labourous.

19:12 <Cepheid> Heh.

19:12 <Finwe> My solution today required 40 lines of code.

19:12 <Cepheid> Not bad.

19:12 <Finwe> Well, 37.

19:13 <Finwe> Three empty lines, and the first line is the invocation of the Perl binary, #! /usr/bin/env perl

19:13 <Finwe> Also three lines consisting of a single parenthesis.

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19:18 * Ali doffs over Finwe and doesn't understand anything the chat replay said.

19:18 <Cepheid> Coding stuff.

19:20 <Cepheid> Hum, that's a simple-sounding problem.

19:20 <NitroTheFurry> !log

19:20 <Unixkitty> https://unixkitty.com/logs/EquestriaDaily/latest.log.html

19:22 <Finwe> Miss Ali.

19:22 * Finwe doffs his hat.

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19:26 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nwZziMFZDw

19:26 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

19:26 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Blood Rage - God Eater 2 Rage Burst OST (Subtitulada)

19:28 <Cepheid> I wonder if they kept the Blood Rage for GE3.

19:29 <Cepheid> Seems like an interesting concept.  Activate the blood rage, specify effects, then you get 30 seconds to meet certain conditions, and if you meet them, you get a considerable boost to strength.

19:30 <Finwe> Ali: If you have any insights on how to slimline my code, they are welcome: https://pastebin.com/6jQ9UBPQ

19:30 <Finwe> o3o

19:30 <Ali> I don't understand code at all Finwe

19:30 <Finwe> Neither do I, but somehow I am able to write it.

19:30 <Cepheid> I honestly think you should give learning a programming language a try some day, Ali.  You strike me as the kind of person who might enjoy it.  I'd be willing to help you learn.

19:31 <ADragonDreaming> Factorio is a form of programming.

19:31 <Finwe> My basic course in programming was in Java, but I haven't done any Java since then.

19:31 <Finwe> Except for one database application.

19:32 <Cepheid> That's part of it, ADragonDreaming, yes.

19:33 <Cepheid> With respect to Ali possibly enjoying it, that is.

19:33 <Ali> I'm waiting on 1.1 Factorio, but that probably won't change much if anything

19:34 <Cepheid> 1.1 is already out in the experimental.

19:34 <Finwe> Waiting _on_?

19:35 <Finwe> Sounds like Factorio 1.1 is sitting in a restaurant and Ali is the waitress.

19:35 <Cepheid> "Waiting on" is just a slang/expression form of "waiting for"

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19:36 <Cepheid> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Hvvl-LVD58

19:36 <Finwe> Miss LunaOfTheMoonLight.

19:36 * Finwe doffs his hat.

19:36 <Schism> The English language is pretty terrible when it comes to prepositions.

19:37 <LunaOfTheMoonLight> hi!

19:41 <Starlight_Glimmer> Language happens to be what people make of it :P

19:42 <Starlight_Glimmer> I'm amused by the attempt of France with their language authority. Thank Luna we didn't end up with French as the "world language".

19:43 <Finwe> !starlight time

19:43 <Finwe> Starligh time! Starlight time!

19:43 * Finwe bounces around in front of Starlight_Glimmer.

19:44 <Finwe> The Franks should never have abandoned their native language.

19:44 * Starlight_Glimmer had French in school, was actually quite good on paper later on, but never really enjoyed it.

19:44 * Cepheid gives Schism a cassette player with headphones.

19:45 <Finwe> Starlight_Glimmer: Pardon, monsieur, qu'est-ce que c'est?

19:47 <Starlight_Glimmer> We could force Ali to learn German :3

19:48 <Starlight_Glimmer> There was a time I thought about learning Russian a lot. That would have been useful.

19:49 <Finwe> I know some Russian.

19:50 <Cepheid> 私は頭がよくない。

19:50 <Finwe> Having taken Introduction to Russian and Russian 1 and 2 at the university. o3o

19:50 <ADragonDreaming> French's language authority hasn't keep French from changing.

19:51 <ADragonDreaming> You can't stop language from changing.

19:51 <Cepheid> They certainly try, though.

19:52 <Cepheid> In Quebec, there's actually a government entity that hands out fines for violating French language laws, among other things.

19:52 <Cepheid> They keep coming under scrutiny because they issue fines for simple things, like a menu not having all French in it.

19:53 <Cepheid> You have to use French names for dishes, apparently.

19:54 <ADragonDreaming> Well, yes. But Quebecois French is still shifted rather significantly from "proper" french.

19:54 <Starlight_Glimmer> We should issue fines for English stuff in language around here 6_9 It's an invasion (... that I don't actually mind that much).

19:55 <Starlight_Glimmer> What does trigger me are the abominations created by the business world though.

19:55 <ADragonDreaming> Easiest example: "Merci!" "Bienvenue."

19:55 <Starlight_Glimmer> Like "learnings" instead of lessons learned.

19:58 <Finwe> ADragonDreaming: An example of Quebecois?

19:59 <Finwe> Or abominations created by the business world?

19:59 * Finwe is astray.

19:59 <ADragonDreaming> of Quebecois.

20:00 <Finwe> Meaning "thank you" and "welcome"? That's mainline French.

20:01 <Schism> Quebecois has weird accents.

20:01 * Schism puts on the cassette player, then asks Cepheid, "Omelette du Fromage?"

20:02 * Cepheid stabs Schism.

20:02 <Cepheid> You know, I'm kind of curious, watching that Omega eScape video.

20:02 <Cepheid> What's with the siren light?

20:03 <Cepheid> That seems an incredibly arbitrary thing to install into a death-murder robot.

20:04 <Finwe> The good and righteous people at Homebrew made me buy a new GPU.

20:04 <Cepheid> Hmm?

20:05 <Schism> Which eScape video?  The Journeys one?

20:05 <Finwe> Cepheid: To put it short, "Your version of the OS is no longer supported, update to a newer version."

20:05 <Cepheid> https://youtu.be/M0Jwsypbz10?t=143 Schism

20:06 <Cepheid> Ah.

20:06 <Finwe> But the newer version of the OS requires Metal support.

20:06 <Cepheid> Omega and his little police light/siren.

20:06 <Finwe> So, a new GPU.

20:06 <Cepheid> Metal suppor-  Oh, for your Hackintosh setup?

20:06 <Cepheid> Or..?

20:07 <Schism> Oh.  Omega is constantly checking the player characters for their attributes.

20:07 <ADragonDreaming> Finwe: "Bienvenue" used in that context is not mainline French.

20:07 <Finwe> I have Mac Pro 3,1.

20:07 <Schism> That's just yet another scan.

20:07 <Cepheid> Ah, so it can be upgraded, unlike a MacBook.

20:07 <ADragonDreaming> Mainline uses Bievenue strictly for greeting purposes: "Welcome to our home"

20:07 <Cepheid> Wasn't aware that Apple supported that.

20:07 <Finwe> ADragonDreaming: Ah, as a response to "Merci"?

20:07 <ADragonDreaming> Correct.

20:08 <Cepheid> Schism:  Why does he even have to scan?  The Omegascape is his creation, everything within it, he'd know about by default. o3o

20:08 <ADragonDreaming> "Bienvenue" as a response to "Merci" is instead an importation from the English "You're welcome."

20:08 <Finwe> It's just a French translation of "Thank you" and "You're welcome."

20:08 <ADragonDreaming> Yes, but mainline French absolutely does not use it that way.

20:08 <Schism> Bitte schoen.

20:08 <ADragonDreaming> Bienvenue is strictly a greeting.

20:08 <ADragonDreaming> The correct response to "mercie" would be "De rien."

20:09 <ADragonDreaming> or "it's nothing"

20:09 <Finwe> In France they say "Tiens" or "de rien" or "je t'en prie".

20:09 <Schism> Cepheid: The Warrior of Light is immune to various kinds of mind control, for Reasons.  This means that Omega has to determine how the WoL beats EVERYTHING.

20:09 <Cepheid> Ah, right, the Echo.

20:10 <Cepheid> Truth be told, I am kind of expecting at some point, in FF14's future, for the Alagan Empire to show up in space ships.

20:11 <Cepheid> The level of technology demonstrated far exceeds even human technology, what we see gives me the impression of a space-faring civilization.

20:12 * Schism looks at Cepheid.

20:12 <Cepheid> You have a gods-be-damned superweapon that's running a true A.I. created entirely to destroy a superweapon-class dragon, one presumed to be stronger than even Shinryu and/or Bahamut.  Don't tell me they don't have space-faring tech.

20:12 <Schism> Play the MSQ, please.

20:12 <Cepheid> ...

20:12 <Cepheid> Oh gods.

20:12 <Cepheid> It happens, doesn't it?

20:13 <Schism> No, it doesn't, but we get an idea of what they are.

20:13 <Finwe> Keeping a Mac Pro 3,1 up to date requires some Hacintosh techniques, though, so it could count as one.

20:14 <Finwe> I'm not quite interested of paying kazillions for the new cheese grater, and this one still works just fine.

20:14 <Cepheid> Schism:  So, part of the MSQ I haven't seen then, or..?

20:15 <Schism> Oh, it's better than that.  We get a glimpse of the Ascians.

20:15 <Cepheid> Or have I forgotten some details of the MSQ from earlier in the game?

20:15 *** Joins: Angeline (Scootaloo@I.Will.Fly.Higher)

20:15 <Schism> I shan't spoil any more, but it's rather impressive.

20:15 <Finwe> Miss Angeline.

20:15 * Finwe doffs his hat.

20:16 <Cepheid> It would not shock me if the Ascians were ascended Alagans, or a faction of the Alagans.

20:16 * Angeline hugs.

20:16 <Angeline> Allagan

20:16 <Schism> Guess you'll have to play to find out.

20:16 <Cepheid> Heh.

20:16 <Cepheid> I really should get to it, yes.

20:16 <Schism> Angeline: Don't spoil it for Cephy.  :p

20:17 <Cepheid> Especially since I've been paying for it for the last few months and not playing.

20:17 <Cepheid> Again, it wouldn't have surprised me if that was the case, Schism.  Their nature suggests a connection to something far in the past to begin with.

20:18 <Starlight_Glimmer> Finwe: Did we lose you to the rotten fruit folks too? Nooo! How could you? :P

20:18 <Cepheid> Nah, he's always had Apple hardware for as long as I can remember him.

20:19 <Cepheid> Probably needed it for a project, like myself.

20:20 <Starlight_Glimmer> I don't keep a record.

20:21 <Finwe> I've been lost since 2008.

20:21 <Finwe> Both my other desktop computer and laptop are that year's models.

20:21 <Finwe> MacBook Pro 5,1 and Mac Pro 3,1.

20:22 <Schism> There.  FFXIV, I'm paid up for six months.  It's cheaper this way anyway.

20:25 <Starlight_Glimmer> I have two Dell XPS 15, my custom built desktop in a full tower case, my NAS which is an Intel SoC in mid-tower case, a couple of old devices here and there like my old ThinkPad, 2 Raspberry Pis 3B, my server of course. Probably forgot a few ;)

20:25 * Starlight_Glimmer has lots of hardware.

20:26 * Cepheid sighs.

20:26 <Cepheid> This class is making me do mathematical proofs.

20:26 <Cepheid> I hate doing proofs.

20:26 <Cepheid> I can infer proof from the rules given, but I cannot express proofs in any coherent form.

20:26 <ADragonDreaming> I can't think of anyone I know who actually likes proofs.

20:27 <Schism> Can you express that in a proof?

20:27 <Cepheid> Finwe might be able to.

20:27 <Starlight_Glimmer> Isn't that par for the course in mathematics, required for anything information technology?

20:28 * Starlight_Glimmer did like proofs :(

20:28 <Schism> Starlight_Glimmer, just because you can't express a proof in a logical fashion doesn't mean you can't make use of it.

20:29 <Cepheid> For me, the problem isn't that I can't understand proofs.  It's that I cannot express them.

20:29 <Starlight_Glimmer> What I didn't enjoy was doing them under pressure in a test.

20:29 <Cepheid> And in the world I do, expressing proofs isn't really a key skill.

20:29 <Cepheid> Er, work I do*

20:29 <Starlight_Glimmer> Nor is it for mine :P

20:30 <Schism> Just because you can't prove that a^x + b^x = c^x for x > 2 doesn't mean that it's an invalid assumption.

20:30 <Starlight_Glimmer> Welcome to school and college, where 95% of what you do is never useful again in life after like the 10th year.

20:31 <Schism> What's necessary to learn are the thought processes which lead to those conclusions, but they certainly don't teach critical thinking.

20:31 <Finwe> Instead, you do something like this: https://www.reddit.com/r/adventofcode/comments/k60ycf/day_1_part_1_solution_in_exapunks/

20:32 <Starlight_Glimmer> Schism: I'm not sure they do a great job with the processes part.

20:32 <Schism> No, surely not.

20:32 <Starlight_Glimmer> I had math as an advanced course, I really can't complain.

20:33 <Cepheid> Me talking about university or college is, at this point, a dangerous thing.

20:33 <Schism> I'm rather surprised that, yesterday, my GP asked, "Okay, are you considering surgery?" and I responded, "I don't know yet." and she just nodded and went, "Okay, and next, are you okay with this being a whole life thing..."

20:33 <Angeline> Schism, I didn't do anything but correct spelling

20:33 <Angeline> :|

20:33 <Finwe> Someone solved the AoC day 1 puzzle using Factorio. :D

20:33 <Angeline> The way?

20:33 <Cepheid> I have a clear, and obvious bias, and a lot of my mental health problems are focused around post-secondary education, and in fact, maybe *ALL* education that isn't self-directed.

20:33 <Angeline> Wha*

20:33 <Cepheid> I was fine for this year, up until University started.

20:33 <Cepheid> Ask anyone.

20:34 * Angeline pounces around and nips at butterflies.

20:34 <Schism> Oh right.  Sorry, Angeline. :<

20:34 <Starlight_Glimmer> I did however - compensated quite well for my time - help out students in the basic course and what they did was more akin to a baking recipe then actually understanding what is happening.

20:34 <Cepheid> So, after this year, I'm done.  I'm going to take a bunch of courses in random things I am interested in to appease OSAP.

20:34 <Angeline> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN5goxeTfjc

20:34 <Angeline> Have a cute animation

20:34 <Angeline> About animals

20:34 <Angeline> and moons

20:34 <Schism> Cepheid: Maybe ask for a Japanese teacher who knows a syllabus from her head in the ground?

20:35 <Cepheid> That'd be my current Japanese teacher.

20:35 <Cepheid> So that's one course, right off the bat.

20:35 <Schism> oh.  Then ask for her again.  X3

20:35 <Cepheid> Otherwise, I don't know what else I'd take.

20:35 <Cepheid> I need at least 2 other courses.

20:35 <Schism> Hm, how's your ear?  You could possibly take something musical.  

20:35 <Schism> Then again, maybe not so much.

20:36 <Schism> Pure maths?

20:36 <Finwe> Pure and applied. o3o

20:36 <Cepheid> I actually don't even know why I'm doing what I am right now.

20:37 <Cepheid> Other than "I should at least attempt to complete this assignment."

20:37 <Cepheid> I'm still a horrible student.

20:39 <Cepheid> Probably why I can't get a job either.  Terrible at doing anything other than exactly one thing.

20:40 <Schism> I'm good at multitasking myself, but all too often that means 'okay, this project can sit while I do another'.

20:40 <Schism> I guess multithreading?

20:40 <Cepheid> Right now, my biggest problem is prioritizing.

20:41 <Cepheid> I consider university work to be of low priority, with one exception, and I'm not entirely sure why.

20:41 <Starlight_Glimmer> Better a terrible student than a terrible human, cheer up, buttercup!

20:41 <Cepheid> The high priority item for me is writing code, learning new algorithms, and the like.

20:41 <Cepheid> But even if my courses cover such a thing, I still consider them to be low priority.

20:42 <Cepheid> A part of me wants to say it has to do with how slow everything is taught.  But a bigger part of me says that it's just my bias against educational institutions.

20:42 <Cepheid> I have never liked school, and I doubt I ever will.

20:42 <Cepheid> For a myriad of reasons.

20:42 <Cepheid> Even the psychs last night said that I have a problem with the university that needs to clearly be resolved.

20:43 <Cepheid> To the point that they started asking more pointed questions about the university than anything else.

20:43 <Cepheid> And my education in general.

20:43 <Schism> Impressive.  Not many would go that far.

20:44 <Cepheid> I have never had a good history with educational institutions in general.

20:44 <Cepheid> Some of it probably my own fault.

20:45 <Starlight_Glimmer> I had some difficulties finding work through the usual channels when I stopped studying (had to really, because life sometimes just hits you). I met my current employer by complaining in an online forum. Been happy there for over 4 years now!

20:45 <Cepheid> Let's see, from the start... Bullying throughout elementary and such, up to grade 8, due to the inner ear infection thing.  Man, if I had that infection today, with the holes still in my eardrums, I would NOT want to go outside right now in a pandemic,

20:46 <Cepheid> Then in grade 8, the problems with the teachers just got out of hand, with one of them actively demonstrating his desire to discriminate against me.  I was pulled out at that time, and gods, it was nice.  I was given the choice of homeschooling or going to high school.  I took homeschooling for the obvious reason.

20:46 *** Quits: LunaOfTheMoonLight (LunaOfTheMo@Pony-pq554b.knvltn.sbcglobal.net) (Quit: Connection closed)

20:46 <Cepheid> Passed that in 2 years, then I had several years to just do whatever I want until I was old enough for college.  Somewhere along the line, my hearing returned to normal.

20:47 <Cepheid> College was... stressful for me because I couldn't deal with the noise.

20:47 <Cepheid> Some of it was also because I procrastinated in favour of working on other stuff to make use of what I learned up to a given point.

20:48 <Cepheid> I managed to get through though, with a broken bone or two.

20:48 <Cepheid> Then I suddenly needed a 4-year degree for everything, so...

20:48 <Cepheid> I decided to attend university.  Oh gods that was a mistake.

20:48 <Cepheid> Between the administration giving me grief every semester, and the quality of the teaching and grading..

20:49 <Cepheid> I should have stuck with my gut back in December, and dropped out in favor of building a portfolio and applying for jobs everywhere.

20:56 <Schism> Well, that might have just put you in an untenable position.

20:58 <Cepheid> Hmm?

20:58 <Schism> Wouldn't that have resulted in debts?

20:59 <Cepheid> I already have a 5-figure debt anyways.

20:59 <Schism> Mmm.

21:01 <Cepheid> Man, this notation is confusing to read.

21:02 <Cepheid> Easy in the textbook, because they are consistent about it, but the assignment... nope

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21:14 * Dappled exists.

21:19 <Schism> Well.  Doctor's not going to get back to me today, but... it's a practitioner change, I understand how that can take a little time.

21:29 * Lumindia boops the dappled, snug

21:29 * Dappled falls into snug.

21:30 <Cepheid> So my parents basically just had a talk with me.  They actually would prefer, at this point, that I stop attending university.  Deal with the Japanese class, as I actually enjoy it, but the rest, nope.

21:31 <ADragonDreaming> Planning on going that route?

21:32 <Cepheid> That seems to be the best approach.

21:32 <Cepheid> In the following months, get my portfolio going, update my LinkedIn, work on my website, start applying for jobs, and learn via my usual methods.

21:33 <ADragonDreaming> I approve

21:33 * Dappled sits over here and is old, working in a warehouse, and has given up on getting anything better in life. May you have much success.

21:34 <Cepheid> I'll resolve the current class materials by A)  Buying the textbook one of the professors wrote, and B)  Reading the textbook I do have for the other course again.

21:38 <Cepheid> Also, that car alarm is still going off.

21:39 <NitroTheFurry> Still?!

21:39 <Cepheid> Yes.

21:39 <ADragonDreaming> I'm betting it's broke, then.

21:39 <Cepheid> Probably.

21:40 <Cepheid> At which point though, why don't you figure out how it's connected up, and... disconnect it?

21:41 <Dappled> Because taking a sledge hammer to the car to figure it out gets the cops called on you?

21:43 <Schism> There.  I don't order takeout often, but this time, I really, really, really do not want to make dinner.

21:43 <Cepheid> I mean, there has to be a diagram in the manual for the car to disconnect the alarm.

21:43 * Schism bought food. Lots of food.

21:43 <Schism> Food enough for a few days.

21:44 <Schism> Well, to a degree, anyway.

21:49 <Schism> Could've just done pizza, but this will last longer.  And be tastier.

21:51 <Dappled> Nothing is tastier than pizza.

21:52 <Schism> Not even chicken tikka masala on a flatbread with a base of cream cheese?

21:52 * Dappled heard flatbread and cheese. That's a pizza.

21:52 * Cepheid flops off to go take a shower.

21:52 <Schism> <.<

21:53 <Dappled> My logic is undeniable. Unless it is denied. But I still believe it.

21:53 <Schism> Anyhoo, an hour and a half until I go down and pick up that food.

21:57 <Cepheid> https://imgur.com/gallery/j1VLn88

21:58 * Cepheid finally goes to shower.

22:06 * Schism sets up an alarm system so that she can get the food at 6:15ish.

22:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3540 [ https://tinyurl.com/y58j9285 ]

22:13 <Cepheid> Alarm's still going off.

22:13 <Cepheid> Also, some bits of wisdom.

22:14 <Cepheid> 1)  Don't strike walls in anger.  2)  If you ignored #1, when you turn around, watch where you arms go, because if you accidentally follow up hitting a wall with, well, hitting a wall by accident, it'll hurt.

22:20 <Lumindia> I kicked a steel shipping crate out of frustration one day

22:21 <Finwe> Mr Dappled.

22:21 * Finwe doffs his hat.

22:22 <Schism> An hour from now I will be taking two bags down the street and returning with FOOOOOD and I can't wait.

22:22 * Schism rests her head on the table and whines foxishly.

22:23 * Ali fillysizes and goes up and sits on Schism head and bleps

22:23 * Schism provides Ali with a popodom or two. They're not spicy, just tasty eggrolls filled with beef and peas and rice.

22:24 * Ali noms food and burps loudly cause rude filly

22:24 * Schism patpats the Ali, and shapeshifts a filly bed atop her head.

22:24 * Ali isn't sleepy, wants snugs more than bedtimes.

22:26 <Schism> Maybe will snug after I've picked up tonight's (and the next few days') dinner.

22:28 * Lumindia snugs Ali muchly

22:31 * Cepheid orders pizza for herself tonight.

22:31 <Cepheid> I need to wind down.

22:31 <Cepheid> It's certainly helped to finally make a decision regarding the university, but.. yeah.

22:34 *** Joins: ryaxnb21 (ryaxnb@Pony-i7u332.ca.comcast.net)

22:37 <Cepheid> My dad actually even threatened me.

22:37 <Cepheid> "Order the danged pizza.  Or else."

22:38 <Schism> Please tell me you said, "Or else what", and he said, "Or I'll shake my fist at you."

22:43 <Cepheid> I did not.

22:44 <Cepheid> I did however, get a smartarse response to my bits of wisdom for him.

22:44 <Cepheid> "It hurts?  You don't say."

22:45 <Schism> Pfhbh.

22:46 * Schism sighs, and just shakes her head.

22:52 <Cepheid> If anyone ever wants to know why I do that, it's mostly because of this thing in my head that comes to the conclusion that I deserve suffering.  Penance.

22:53 <Cepheid> Hum.

22:53 * Dappled suggests gloves. Then punch wall harder. Assert dominance over the inaninmate.

22:54 <Cepheid> I received a text message from an unidentified number, hoping that I was okay.  I unfortunately didn't see it as my phone was dead, and I didn't have it on me at all yesterday.  I tried to get my parents to tell you I was going to the hospital, but they couldn't get to my laptop in time.

22:54 <Cepheid> I'm going to assume that number belongs to ADra.

22:56 <Cepheid> Could also belong to Schism.

22:56 * Dappled chews on a stick.

22:56 <Schism> No, I'm afraid that I didn't send that number; I'd have left a message, and my number would have been evident.

22:56 <Cepheid> Heh.

22:56 <Schism> er, send that message.  I'm tired.

22:56 * Lumindia chews on Dappled's tail

22:57 <Cepheid> Yeah, it's.. I know whot it is now.

22:57 <Cepheid> I just checked the area code.

22:59 * Dappled attempts to explain to the small furry things that they are cats. They don't seem to care.

22:59 <Cepheid> But yeah.  I am sorry I kinda went silent.  It became an emergency, and my phone, as is typical of me, was left not to charge.  So it was dead, and I didn't have access to my laptop, so I couldn't connect to IRC.  Prolly for the best anyways.

22:59 * Schism decides to come up with the term 'tomestabulatory'. She has absolutely no idea what it means.

22:59 <Cepheid> Although, it probably would have been good for showing what my mind was thinking to the psychs.

23:00 <Dappled> We have replaced the Constable with the Tomestable. Klaatu Barada Nikto?

23:02 <Schism> I decided to also throw in 'bookaneer'.

23:04 <Cepheid> And you stay in Books Den.  *Gets stabbed by Ultima player*

23:04 * Dappled waits for Ultima remakes in ultra HD.

23:05 * Schism repeatedly provides the Wisp with a tome of great depth and mass and density, obtaining enough gold to bankrupt Brittania.

23:06 * Cepheid enters a house comprised entirely of stairs.

23:07 <Schism> "I'm going to go convince a dragon to eat you."

23:09 <Cepheid> Why?  I didn't build it.

23:09 <Cepheid> It was here already, I was just checking it out.

23:09 * Schism straps on her boots and nods. "A dragon to eat the house, then."

23:09 <Cepheid> Or the owner.

23:09 <Schism> Or that, yes.

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23:09 <Schism> Well, or her.  We know.

23:10 <Schism> Okay, hmm...

23:10 <Schism> Could put just one bag in the backpack and carry one...

23:11 <Cepheid> Hmm?

23:11 * Schism may or may not have ordered too much food, but this does not mean it will go to waste.

23:11 <ADragonDreaming> huzzah. the work is done.

23:11 <Schism> It'll get eaten in the next couple days, guaranteed.

23:11 <ADragonDreaming> off to dinner nao.

23:11 * Schism offers Adra some chicken tikka.

23:12 <ADragonDreaming> delish

23:13 * Dappled continues to eat Ramen noodle.

23:15 <Cepheid> Hum, Pizza's almost here.  Little longer than expected 'cause busy night, I guess.

23:20 <Cepheid> I wish I could get ramen here, Dappled.

23:20 <Cepheid> But there's only two places in the entire city to get it, and one doesn't deliver to this area, and the other...  Their ramen's not very good.

23:20 *** Quits: Dakota (dwhitevalle@always.broken.sometimes.patched.never.fixed) (Quit: WeeChat 2.9)

23:23 <Finwe> Pieces of chicken?

23:24 <Cepheid> I'm not sure why, but this city is a pizza city.  I guarantee that there is at least one pizza parlor of some sort within 15 minutes walking distance of any specific point in this city.  And Finwe, please don't try to prove me wrong on this, let this one go. :P

23:46 *** Quits: ADragonDreaming (Mibbit@Pony-0he86q.mi.comcast.net) (Quit: https://mibbit.com Online IRC Client)

23:51 <Cepheid> I feel like I could go back to sleep.  Just how much energy did I expend yesterday and last night?

23:51 <Cepheid> I mean, I was falling asleep at the hospital, in a loud-arse room.  So I know I expended quite a bit of energy, but not so much that it should be affecting me the next day, right?

23:59 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/MH_Rise_JP/status/1334407020728836101 Huh.

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