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00:06 * Cepheid hacks their Dragon's Dogma save to fix pawn name. For some reason, it censors the "dre" in "Andrew" and replaces the characters with literal asterisks (*), so modifies the save to change the name to Andy, which *IS* acceptable.
00:12 <Cepheid> I'll just have to make sure I don't ever log on to the servers. Though, not like I will, because they're probably all filled with hacked characters anyways.
00:16 <Schism> Awr. I'mma have to wait for a bit to get Pierce. Or grind. Or figure out WHERE THE OBJECTIVES ARE.
00:21 <Cepheid> Actually, it appears both the moniker and name of "Andy" are acceptable, and thus, I should be able to log onto the servers without any issues. Even then, it's not like I'm cheating my stats up.
00:22 <Cepheid> Though I'd like to know why Capcom considered "dre" offensive.
00:22 <LibrarianofHope> they dont like beats headphones
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00:42 <Cepheid> Ooooh yeah, staying offline. Looking at the pawns from other players. They're all super-powered.
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00:51 <LibrarianofHope> i wanna read a light novel
00:51 <LibrarianofHope> what are the offerings i gotta see
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01:01 <LibrarianofHope> Ali
01:01 <LibrarianofHope> owo
01:01 * Ali boops LibrarianofHope
01:02 * LibrarianofHope is bopped
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01:08 <Finwe> Cepheid: Yes, just vkmark, or vkmark --fullscreen.
01:09 <Finwe> Everything else should go automatically.
01:11 <Cepheid> Mm.
01:12 <PinkieShy> hmm
01:12 * PinkieShy gets up to get a tall glass of tea
01:12 <LibrarianofHope> ahmmmmmmmmm
01:13 <PinkieShy> Bought some topsoil to fix holes in the yard today..
01:14 <LibrarianofHope> i want a yard
01:14 <PinkieShy> Neighbors dog came around smelled the dirt and dug the dirt up again.. I burst out laughing
01:14 <LibrarianofHope> my doggies would love it
01:14 <PinkieShy> Sad thing is.. It wasn't enough though
01:14 <PinkieShy> Might need to get $20 worth of this $1.88 topsoil..
01:14 <LibrarianofHope> enought for what?
01:14 <PinkieShy> To fix the holes in the yard from where we drove the car in the yard at..
01:15 <LibrarianofHope> you drove the car in the yard
01:15 <PinkieShy> Legit when the car tire tracks left a bunch of holes all over
01:15 <PinkieShy> Well the drive-way (Part of the yard as well) was flooded.. we had no choice
01:15 <LibrarianofHope> your yard is on the front?
01:15 <PinkieShy> LibrarianofHope we got two yards tbh. a front and back yard
01:16 <LibrarianofHope> its a very USA
01:16 <LibrarianofHope> thing
01:16 <LibrarianofHope> Mexico city does has its houses with yard, but everything is stuck together
01:17 <LibrarianofHope> no space in bettween houses
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01:20 <PinkieShy> The driveway we are looking at getting a company to come out and dump a ton of gravel to fix the issue we had.
01:27 <LibrarianofHope> time to leave
01:27 <PinkieShy> Seriously gravel would probably fix it so the car doesn't get stuck in mud ever again lol
01:27 <PinkieShy> aww :(
01:27 <LibrarianofHope> owo
01:27 * PinkieShy hugs LibrarianofHope
01:27 * LibrarianofHope glomps da pinkieshy
01:28 <LibrarianofHope> im tireeeed
01:28 <LibrarianofHope> need to sleep
01:28 <LibrarianofHope> see ya
01:28 <PinkieShy> okie :P
01:28 <PinkieShy> Have good night! :D
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01:47 <Schism> Oh right, I _had_ completed that obstacle course...
01:48 * Schism does so in just one try this time, but it's pointless, because she's already DONE it...
01:48 <Schism> Oh well. Good practice.
01:55 * Schism also has the ... well, _control_ ability now. "This is of limited benefit. It's slow, it doesn't last that long, and _honestly..._
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02:01 <Cepheid> And yet, it's useful.
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02:01 <Ali> Boom goes the netsplit
02:02 * PinkieShy hides the bunny that chewed the wires
02:03 <Schism> I _guess_ Seize isn't the worst ability. Though I might have to beat a few more sidequests before I actually _make_ it useful. (I've been focusing on Launch. Because, well...)
02:04 <Schism> Also, simple enough logic puzzle to restart the HRA, and then boom goes the crystal. _sigh._
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02:14 * Schism also binds the number 1 to 'use'. "There. Now when I hit 1, it will properly switch loadouts."
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02:18 <Cepheid> Ah, you're that far in, cool.
02:25 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #2451 [ https://tinyurl.com/yb529bex ]
02:37 <Cepheid> I need bred.
02:47 <Schism> Hee. "Did you tell him about the mermaid?" "Oh, yeah, the mermaid."
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03:05 <Schism> Oh good. I now have enough skill points to launch three objects at once. o3o And recover power while I throw things around.
03:08 <Schism> Or not, it's locked behind something else. OH WELL. More launch damage.
03:12 <Schism> Finwe: "They're trying to dig a hole in their own cellar, looking for gold. Greed will have a ... crappy end."
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04:10 * Schism derps about in Containment. Wonders when she'll start seeing more clocks.
04:11 <Schism> Oh. Those clocks.
04:21 <Schism> "Destroy Hiss nodes." "Okay." -jumps off a ledge, dies-
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04:31 <Schism> Ohoho yes. Launch maxed out.
04:31 * Schism MIGHT have just completely locked down and cheesed Horowitz.
04:32 * Ali cheeses Schism ears and then noms
04:33 * Schism nuuus, is not a cheeseling.
04:34 * Schism also wonders if she should unlock Pierce 2, or Shatter 2, first. "Pierce being a sniper shot, and Shatter being a delightful shotgun."
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04:42 <Cepheid> I went with pierce, myself. But that's cause I like sniper.
04:42 <Schism> Cepheid: I don't think that the game wants me to fight the Anchor yet.
04:44 <Schism> Call me crazy, perhaps, but I -think- I should possibly poke around and find some Blackrock first.
04:50 <Cepheid> Ah, the anchor.
04:50 <Cepheid> If you're able to fight it, you have everything you need.
04:52 <Schism> "How am I supposed to get over there?" she asks. Well, clearly I _can't_ yet, so.
04:54 <Schism> Hrm. Need more Entropic Echoes and Remote Thoughts. Might grind Containment a bit later for those.
04:55 <Schism> Or just do missions wherever, that's also an option.
04:57 <Schism> Game, stop tempting me. I'm not going to jump down the elevator shaft.
04:58 <Schism> ...
04:58 <Schism> Okay. I suppose I _will_ jump down the elevator shaft.
04:58 <Cepheid> Heh.
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04:59 <Schism> This is not something which makes my acrophobia very happy, but then not many things do.
05:03 <Cepheid> Acrophobia?
05:04 <Schism> Fear of heights. Yes, this even twigs on occasion when I'm platforming in video games.
05:04 * Schism throws a forklift at the enemies which deign to attack her upon her descent. It, and they, explode in glorious fashion. "I should find more of those to throw."
05:05 <Cepheid> Heh.
05:10 * Schism equips Pierce Aimed Fire Boost and Headshot Damage.
05:11 <Schism> A general damage boost for my Grip above rank 1 would be nice, though.
05:13 <Schism> And now the darkness is attacking me.
05:15 <Cepheid> That would place you in... What sector/floor?
05:24 <Schism> Black Rock Quarry.
05:43 <Schism> Blerg. Well, at least there's _some_ progress there. I should hold off on upgrading to tier 5 mods before I have the materials to craft the bloody things, of course.
05:43 <Schism> Also, why do the mooks have level 9 keycards. ._.
05:47 <Ali> Cause Lvl 10 cards were too good for them
05:50 <Schism> In any event, the Launch ability is like the Gravity Gun from HL2. Not the weaksauce one. The insanely good one.
05:52 * Ali wouldn't know either
05:52 <Schism> The one that lets you pick up a mountain.
05:52 <Schism> Okay, not QUITE a mountain, but lets you pick up enormous boulders (occasionally explosive) and throw them across the room. Then pick up the dead bodies resultant and fling them at their former compatriots.
05:54 <Schism> As this is basically a supernatural laboratory/containment facility, explosive are everywhere.
05:54 <Schism> explosives*
06:02 <Schism> Cepheid: I'm still shaking my head over that five punchcard puzzle. Not the hardest thing in the world, that.
06:04 <Cepheid> You have to consider the audience of the game.
06:04 <Cepheid> The puzzle has to be simple enough even the most braindead people can solve it.
06:04 <Schism> Bet there'll still be people who had to look up the solution...
06:06 <Cepheid> My point still stands. Target audience is one that is more about quick reflexes, finding cover, and precision aiming.
06:06 <Schism> True enough.
06:06 * Schism flumps. "I should sleep. 1 AM..."
06:06 <Cepheid> Unlike those of us who played games like La-Mulana, they are not trained for dealing with puzzles.
06:09 * Cepheid needs to get back to Etrian Odyssey Nexus.
06:10 <Cepheid> In fact, I'm wondering if that's what my brain wants me to play right now. I should try tomorrow.
06:10 <Cepheid> But first, programming.
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07:56 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
07:58 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift, Capt Koopz; Mlles Ali, Filly_Nightmares and Schism; Mr Cepheid.
07:58 <Finwe> o7
07:58 <Finwe> Good morning.
07:58 * Ali sits on ConfusionRift and Finwe
07:59 * Finwe is not a sofapony, but tries to be as comfortable as possible.
07:59 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)
07:59 * ConfusionRift doesn't mind being sofapony for now. :P
08:01 <Koopz> RAdm. Finwe o7
08:02 * Finwe noms on Ali's tail.
08:02 * Ali squeaks
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08:11 * Surreal_Nightmares purrrrrrr and wigglewaggles at Ali!
08:12 * Ali brushies Surreal_Nightmares
08:13 * Surreal_Nightmares eeeee and nom nom nom Ali tail happily
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09:05 * Surreal_Nightmares purrrrrr
09:07 * Finwe finishes nomming on his lunch (and Ali's tail).
09:07 * Ali flails as everyone is nomming her tail
09:07 <Finwe> o3o
09:08 * Finwe patpats an Ali.
09:10 * Surreal_Nightmares purrr and kneads Finwe tummy!
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10:05 * Surreal_Nightmares purrr and uses Golden as a bed
10:06 * Golden pats Surreal_Nightmares
10:19 * Surreal_Nightmares purrrrrrr
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10:46 * Lumindia awakens
10:54 * ConfusionRift boops Lumindia. :P
10:54 * Lumindia falls over
10:57 * ConfusionRift also falls over.
11:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #2222 [ https://tinyurl.com/y74lca7n ]
11:19 * Dappled_ gets off his hoofsies. Hoofsies hurt to much.
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11:34 * Dappled_ has no idea how much he'll be around this week. Just had a 13 hour day followed by a 10 hour day. No reason to think I'll have an under 8 hour this week. Going to go rest, and maybe play some pokemon on my phone.
11:48 * ConfusionRift patpats Dappled_
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12:31 <ThirdChoice> I don't suppose anyone here is good with Lua?
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13:10 <ConfusionRift> Not me, unfortunately.
13:14 * Filly_Nightmares uses Lumindia as a bed and purr
13:14 * Lumindia engages warms
13:14 <Lumindia> o wo
13:14 * Lumindia patpats Surry muchlyt
13:14 * Filly_Nightmares purrs and yawnskrees and goes sleepies on Lumindia!
13:14 <Lumindia> ~♥
13:20 * Cepheid awakens.
13:24 <ConfusionRift> Hallooo.
13:28 <Cepheid> Monring.
13:30 * Cepheid is freezing.
13:31 <Cepheid> Okay Spitfire, isn't it a bit early to be doing this?
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13:32 <RazorSharpFang> Cepheid, what languages aside from C# are you familiar with, btw? I'm trying to learn Lua right now.
13:32 <Cepheid> C, and C++ primarily. I know fragments of Lua, but not enough to be helpful.
13:33 <Cepheid> What're you learning it for, out of curiousity?
13:33 <RazorSharpFang> I was thinking of Lua, to enable custom behaviours without needing a full rebuild, which sounds like Lua's use-case.
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13:35 <Cepheid> Any interpreted language is that way. Typically though people go with Python for that I think.
13:35 <Cyan_Spark> Razor the investor
13:35 <RazorSharpFang> Is the Python interpreter under 100kB?
13:36 <RazorSharpFang> Hey Heys Cyan_Spark
13:36 <Cyan_Spark> c:
13:36 <Cepheid> I'm pretty sure it isn't.
13:36 <RazorSharpFang> I need something lean-and-mean.
13:36 <RazorSharpFang> Python is neither.
13:37 <Cepheid> I mean, it can be a pretty foul and rude language, but.. Yeah.
13:37 <RazorSharpFang> --- white-space --- :3
13:38 <Cepheid> How and why it became the first language students are introduced to at my university is questionable.
13:38 <RazorSharpFang> I hear Google was pretty invested into it, before they tried to Pivot to GO.
13:39 <Cepheid> And now everyone's praising Rust.
13:40 <RazorSharpFang> Apparently there's a good C# library for good interop between Lua and C# - letting you use CLR types directly in Lua, calling function etcs.
13:41 <RazorSharpFang> I'm looking at NeoLua, right now.
13:41 <RazorSharpFang> We'll have to see if it can work under .Net 5
13:42 <Cepheid> Heh.
13:43 * Cepheid writes a small interop class for libpng's simplified API.
13:48 <RazorSharpFang> .Net Standard 2.0 should work in .Net 5 I think.
13:49 <Cepheid> It does.
13:49 <Cepheid> It's pretty much the defacto target at the moment for many libraries and such.
14:02 * RazorSharpFang looks at the interfaces this class implements.
14:02 <RazorSharpFang> IDynamicMetaObjectProvider, INotifyPropertyChanged, IDictionary<object, object>, ICollection<KeyValuePair<object, object>>, IEnumerable<KeyValuePair<object, object>>, IEnumerable
14:02 <RazorSharpFang> That's a fair few, yeah.
14:18 <RazorSharpFang> ... public dyanmic?
14:18 <Cepheid> Heh.
14:19 * Cepheid abuses C# features to implement some stuff that libpng does in the header.
14:34 * Schism wakes up. A nice full 8 hours of sleep.
14:40 <Schism> Cepheid: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EvV6KjiVkAMNYf8?format=png&name=900x900
14:43 <Cepheid> Heeeey lookit that, I got the read API partially working.
14:43 <Cepheid> Heh.
14:43 <Cepheid> Funny note, I haven't seen the entirety of that movie.
14:43 * ConfusionRift looks at the logo and chuckles. :P
14:44 <ConfusionRift> Cepheid: You should. It's still pretty good, and funny.
14:44 <Cepheid> I should be able to watch it, yeah. My parents have Disney+, after all.
14:45 <ConfusionRift> If someone decides to use that logo for a drink, it should have a skull on the front, and a llama on the inside part of the label.
14:49 <ConfusionRift> Or if you rip it, it just says "this isn't poison, this is extract of LLAMA"!
14:52 * RazorSharpFang sings the llama song
14:53 * Cepheid puts on some SA1 & 2 music.
14:53 <Cepheid> These games may not have been very popular, but you can't discredit the music. They did a good job.
14:54 <ConfusionRift> SA1 & 2 as in... just wanna make suuure. :P
14:54 <Cepheid> Sonic Adventure.
14:55 <ConfusionRift> Ah, as I thought. Always did like them Sonic game music. Even the less popular and bad ones have some really good music.
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15:01 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pdxBuQ5x1g
15:01 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
15:01 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Boss Big Arms Sonic 3 Final Boss Sonic Generations 3DS Music Extended
15:01 <Cepheid> Honestly, this track was... both more epic than expected, but also darker sounding than the usual fare.
15:01 <ConfusionRift> Aaaah, one of my favorites. Well, at least the original.
15:02 <Cepheid> Honestly, I want to see them do a remake of the final boss from Sonic & Knuckles. Not the extra, hidden battle in the paired game.
15:02 <Cepheid> The one with the giant mech.
15:03 * ConfusionRift whispers. "I think GaMetal did a cover of this one."
15:03 <Cepheid> Heh.
15:03 <Cepheid> Speaking of the hidden battle, did you ever see that?
15:04 <ConfusionRift> Hidden battle. Might need a refresher, it's been long.
15:04 <Cepheid> You needed to pair Sonic 3 with Sonic & Knuckles, and acquire the Chaos Emeralds, as well as the Master Emeralds(I forget their actual name), then beat the final boss of S&K.
15:04 <Cepheid> It would take you to a chase battle.
15:05 <ConfusionRift> Ah, the true final battle.
15:05 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKJ1uhmz6Jk
15:05 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
15:05 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Sonic 3 And Knuckles Final Boss + Good Ending As Sonic HD.
15:05 <Cepheid> I actually pulled it off as a kid.
15:05 <Cepheid> It was one of my more favourite achievements.
15:08 <Schism> Hmm. So Yzma's original motivation was to turn off the sun, before the film was retooled.
15:08 <ConfusionRift> I couldn't get Sonic & Knuckles, so the only way I was able to get to it was through emulation. There's a rom that has both carts together (Sonic 3 & Knuckles).
15:09 <ConfusionRift> The mech fight was somewhat referenced in Sonic Mania, and apparently one of the advanced games.
15:10 <RazorSharpFang> Red day today on the exchange.
15:10 <Cepheid> ConfusionRift: Likely Generations.
15:10 <ConfusionRift> Then again, Sonic Mania was "reference: the game".
15:10 <Cepheid> Heh.
15:11 * Cepheid manages to read in a PNG using libpng under C#.
15:11 <Cepheid> Huzzah!
15:11 <ConfusionRift> Cepheid: Sonic Advance, I think the second one.
15:11 <Cepheid> Also, in a way, the Doomsday battle was re-enacted in multiple forms. The most well-known for me is the true ending of Sonic Rush.
15:11 <ConfusionRift> That's one I haven't played yet.
15:12 <Cepheid> Mmm.
15:12 <Cepheid> It's not a bad game, I enjoyed it.
15:12 <Cepheid> Enough to get the true ending.
15:13 <Cepheid> !link https://youtu.be/MmwhGbaEiZE?t=275 Spoilers, the final battle of Rush.
15:13 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
15:13 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Sonic Rush #16 - Extra Zone - Exception & Ending
15:15 <ConfusionRift> Fun fact, the composer for the Rush game was the composer for Jet Set Radio.
15:15 <Cepheid> Heh.
15:16 <Cepheid> I don't really know entirely what the issue is that people had with Rush. I recall it being a good, fun game. Maybe not the best story, but then, the story for the Sonic games has never really been excessively good. It's usually been more about the gameplay. I just think people had a problem with a female lead comparable to Sonic in the series.
15:17 <Cepheid> Because that's basically what Blaze was.
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15:19 <ConfusionRift> I think there were other issues, but mostly that this was around the time everyone was falling in this "Sonic is not good" decline phase, which I really didn't care for. Didn't really hear much in the case of Blaze as a main character.
15:21 <Cepheid> Mmm.
15:21 <ConfusionRift> In my case, I wasn't using the DS that much, especially when I kept thinking DS game was just gimmicky with the touch screen thing. Alas, I just haven't got to play it, so I got no opinions on the game yet. (shrugs)
15:22 <ConfusionRift> I do plan to play it at some point.
15:24 <Schism> "Eggmans!" "No, no. It's Eggsman."
15:25 <RazorSharpFang> Neither of those are right.
15:27 <Cepheid> I find it hilarious that with Generations, they managed to make a better version of the Perfect Chaos battle, including visuals.
15:27 <ConfusionRift> It's Eggmi. (gets bonked(
15:27 <Schism> I know, but erroneous pluralizations make me giggle.
15:27 <Cepheid> Oh, wait, Generations 3DS didn't include the Perfect Chaos battle.
15:27 <ConfusionRift> Nope!
15:27 <Cepheid> That was nextgen version.
15:28 <Cepheid> Still, that must have been fun to remake to be more in line with what they probably intended.
15:28 <ConfusionRift> Generations 3DS was a different beast.
15:29 <Cepheid> It was, yeah.
15:29 <Cepheid> Still just as good, though, from what I understand.
15:30 <LibrarianofHope> i really only remember playing the adventure type sonic games
15:30 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, just a few different stages and approach. Apparently, more closer to a Rush game.
15:30 <ConfusionRift> At least the Modern Sonic stages.
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15:31 <ConfusionRift> Classic is still classic. :P
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15:31 <Cepheid> Generations was basically a combination of all the different styles of games they had done. At least, the better-selling styles of games.
15:31 <Cepheid> Which is why I think it did so well.
15:31 <LibrarianofHope> i think calling Sonic bad is a meme inherently
15:31 <Cepheid> At this point, pretty much.
15:32 <LibrarianofHope> plus the whole deviant art side to spice it up
15:32 <ConfusionRift> It was just some people trying to throw a gas tank in a fire, is all.
15:34 * ConfusionRift sighs at Sega making Casino Night a DLC for the other Generations game.
15:34 <LibrarianofHope> the story of sonic itself as they created him is amazing
15:34 <LibrarianofHope> they stood toe to toe with nintendo at their strongest
15:34 <Cepheid> A lot of it too I think was they didn't like how the Sonic series seemed to be... an experimental platform for Sega.
15:34 <ConfusionRift> Yep!
15:35 <Cepheid> There were admittedly a few poorly implemented games which didn't help, but a majority of them were fine.
15:36 <ConfusionRift> Well, they were pushing the hardware with some games. And in other cases, it was the situation of developing specifically for the console.
15:36 <Cepheid> The Advance games, the Rush games, Generations, and what was that most recent one that allowed you to make your own character? That one was apparently good, just people didn't like the character creation because, presumably in their eyes, it legitimatized Sonic OCs.
15:36 <LibrarianofHope> forces
15:36 * ConfusionRift pukes oil.
15:36 <Cepheid> Right.
15:37 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edApcilS51g
15:37 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
15:37 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Open Your Heart (Crush 40 vs Bentley Jones Remix)
15:37 <Cepheid> Unfortunately, creating OCs in a style of a game series is going to be a thing that'll persist for ages.
15:37 <LibrarianofHope> eggman will always be one of my favorite charfcters
15:37 <Cepheid> So I don't judge it.
15:37 <ConfusionRift> Okay... let me put my two cents first... (puts two coins down) ...and now, the opinion. :P
15:37 * LibrarianofHope changes the cents for ten pesos
15:39 <ConfusionRift> The OC creation part was NOT the bad part of the game. Hell, to me, it was the best part of it. Especially, if you beat it, you have all open slots to create as many characters as you want, under the same savefile.
15:39 <ConfusionRift> My problem was the game itself.
15:40 <Cepheid> Mmm. Like I said, I heard conflicting views about it.
15:41 <Cepheid> On one side, good. On the other side, bad.
15:41 <Cepheid> I forget the various arguments.
15:41 <Cepheid> But I believe most of the bad ones were with respect to the character creation.
15:42 <ConfusionRift> First off, this was supposed to be basically Generations 2, and it's very obvious. But things changed, and doesn't feel like the same game or a sequel, and they made things more convoluted.
15:42 <ConfusionRift> Second, game is stupid short.
15:43 <LibrarianofHope> i feel like painting zombies
15:43 <ConfusionRift> Some stages go for like a minute and a half, other go for maybe 3 minutes, pushing it.
15:44 <LibrarianofHope> i played it
15:44 <LibrarianofHope> i have not much recollection on it
15:44 <Schism> Randomly, Cepheid: https://twitter.com/archer_rs/status/1367130535852662792
15:44 <ConfusionRift> You're proving another point. :P
15:45 <LibrarianofHope> yes,cats hate trains
15:46 <ConfusionRift> The story is very... bland. Very forgettable. They tried this edgy and more hardcore approach, but it doesn't really amount to much, so it falls apart.
15:46 <Cepheid> Yep, cats get in the way of all sorts of things.
15:47 <Cepheid> Honestly though?
15:47 <Cepheid> I'd have just climbed the damned train.
15:47 <LibrarianofHope> you would have fallen
15:47 <LibrarianofHope> its slippery
15:47 <LibrarianofHope> maybe throw something soft?
15:48 <Cepheid> Or use a bag of cat treats.
15:48 <ConfusionRift> Oh, the best part of the game. (shake Cepheid) Guess what? That's right! You're once again the mute rookie hero that becomes the actual hero! Well, you're mostly the & Knuckles of the game.
15:48 <Cepheid> But then, it's a stray, it may not respond to that.
15:49 <Schism> Cepheid: Just open a can of tuna, really.
15:49 <Cepheid> There's that, too, yeah.
15:49 <Cepheid> The smell alone would get them to move.
15:49 <ConfusionRift> You know... (grabs his thesis, and throws it away) That's just a big can of worms. Meh.
15:50 * LibrarianofHope throws a squig at confusion
15:50 <LibrarianofHope> dont worry
15:50 <LibrarianofHope> be squiggy
15:52 <ConfusionRift> A squig? (looks it up) Oh... oooh... the Protopet of W40k. :P
15:53 <LibrarianofHope> yes
15:53 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift, Capt Koopz; Miss Schism.
15:53 <LibrarianofHope> im running fantasy goblins
15:53 <Finwe> o7
15:53 <LibrarianofHope> so i also have big boi manglers
15:53 <LibrarianofHope> and a spider, big boi
15:54 * Finwe offers some IPA dry-hopped with Citra to Schism.
15:54 <LibrarianofHope> i actually want to paint again, the bioshaker thingie is healing my muscles
15:54 * Schism accepts, and offers Finwe an Innis & Gunn.
15:55 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Lullaby 144 / Prophesy / The Tennis Ball / Apple Pursuit / Work From Home / Movie Slate: Clip Show [ https://tinyurl.com/y8mv3k5r ]
15:55 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)
15:55 * Cepheid hums. Wonders if there's a better way to implement that.
15:55 <Finwe> I think we have some Innis & Gunn ales available at our local monopoly store.
15:58 <Schism> They're fairly good.
15:59 * Finwe nodnods.
15:59 <Finwe> As is this Citra IPA we're brewing.
16:00 <Finwe> It's my hundredth batch, no less.
16:00 <Koopz> RAdm. Finwe o7
16:04 <Schism> Owwwww. https://twitter.com/gamemakerstk/status/1123138097925980160
16:04 * ConfusionRift hears his phone.
16:04 * Cepheid refines implementation of PNG library P/Invoke.
16:05 <Cepheid> Schism, yeah.
16:05 <Cepheid> It's a common tactic.
16:05 <Schism> Indeed.
16:05 <ConfusionRift> "Hi, this is a message from your car dealersh-" | They changed the voice, but it's the same message... WHY?!
16:05 <Cepheid> Especially as players have a habit of advancing so quickly that typical streaming loading methods may not be fast enough.
16:06 <Schism> ConfusionRift: So that you wouldn't immediately hang up.
16:06 <Cepheid> Especially on non-SSDs.
16:06 <Cepheid> And even *THEN*
16:06 <Cepheid> See, the core of the problem with reading data, is that there's a lot of things that can affect how quickly it's read from the drive.
16:06 * ConfusionRift sees the pun, and sighs.
16:07 <Cepheid> Type of drive. Platter, solid-state, or optical.
16:07 <Cepheid> Solid-state is obviously the fastest. Platter next fastest. Optical next fastest, and so on, and so on.
16:07 <Cepheid> And *THEN* we have threading to deal with.
16:08 <Cepheid> Interestingly, the more threads accessing the drive, typically the better the performance.
16:08 <Cepheid> Especially for NVMe.
16:08 <ConfusionRift> The worst part is that it's really obvious those are loading points. So you sigh, because those are normally one way points.
16:08 <Cepheid> For example, random 4k read on my PC upstairs, at one thread, gets mmm... 50MBytes/sec?
16:09 <Cepheid> But if you set up 16 threads, it jumps up to 500MBytes/sec.
16:09 <Cepheid> So number of threads reading matters.
16:09 <ConfusionRift> In any case, tired, and apparently it's the time for telemarketers to get on my nerves. Laters!
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16:09 <Cepheid> I don't know how much it matters on platter or optical drives. I haven't tried. And laters, Rifty.
16:09 <Cepheid> Optical drives, I'm not willing to test. I should test the platter drive I have though.
16:10 <Cepheid> Also, is the data being read sequentially? If so, then performance goes up even HIGHER.
16:10 <Cepheid> Then you have to consider OS overhead..
16:10 <Cepheid> Long story short, reading files and data is headache-inducing.
16:11 <Cepheid> I would actually work under the assumption that the user is using an older platter drive, so 100MBytes/sec sequential read, maybe 25-50MBytes/sec random read.
16:12 <RazorSharpFang> Cepheid, do you know which Web-UI templater uses % to mark its translatable strings?
16:12 <RazorSharpFang> Is it DJango or something else?
16:12 <Cepheid> Nope. Web development isn't my thing.
16:12 <Cepheid> I can do it, but I don't.
16:12 <RazorSharpFang> Is that by choice?
16:13 <Cepheid> More just I'm not interested.
16:14 <Cepheid> Hum. Since I don't know what the underlying type will be for calling that method, I have to use IntPtr no matter what. Bleh.
16:15 <Cepheid> Solution would be to use a wrapper method to get around having to go "fixed ..." and then convert my data to a pointer, etc, etc, etc.
16:18 <Cepheid> Well, that worked.
16:21 * Cepheid is learning about all sorts of fun P/Invoke stuff.
16:22 <RazorSharpFang> I would advise against doing P/Invoke on the Win32 APIs, they're really annoying to deal with those weird structs.
16:23 <Cepheid> I'm not using Win32 APIs fortunately.
16:23 <Cepheid> This is libpng.
16:23 <Cepheid> The simplified read/write interface, specifically.
16:23 <RazorSharpFang> Hopefully more sane.
16:23 <Cepheid> It's straightforward, sort of.
16:24 <Cepheid> The biggest complication are the two void* parameters. One for the pixel buffer, one for the colormap table.
16:24 <Cepheid> Either of them can be different data types.
16:24 * Schism peers at qntm. "... that is perhaps not a good SCP idea..."
16:24 <Cepheid> I got around it though by using a generic wrapper method.
16:25 <RazorSharpFang> Ah, your own C DLL?
16:26 <Cepheid> No.
16:27 <Cepheid> libpng is a library for reading PNG files.
16:27 <RazorSharpFang> What did you write the wrapper method in then? Is that yours or not yours?
16:28 <Cepheid> In C#.
16:29 <Cepheid> The wrapper method just declares a method with the same signature, but with generics in place of the void* parameters, and calls the actual method after transforming the parameters around accordingly.
16:30 <RazorSharpFang> Hmmmm
16:31 <Cepheid> It's either that, or every time I call the method, I go "fixed(byte* dataFixed = data) { method(..., (IntPtr)dataFixed, ...); }"
16:32 <Cepheid> Instead, I just do "method<byte>(..., data, ...);" and it automatically applies the fixed() stuff.
16:32 <Cepheid> Or method(..., data, ...) since generic type parameters can be inferred.
16:34 <RazorSharpFang> Yeah, if I declare CheckChange<T>(ref T before, T after){ ... } I can just call CheckChange(int,int) and it'll work.
16:34 <RazorSharpFang> If I didn't forget the ref qualifier
16:35 <Cepheid> Of course, if your type is guaranteed to be a class, you can just skip the ref keyword altogether.
16:36 <RazorSharpFang> It's not, hence the example of int.
16:36 <Cepheid> Fair enough.
16:36 <RazorSharpFang> Structs are not classes right
16:36 <Cepheid> Nope. They're considered unmanaged types, and are passed by value. Classes are managed, and passed by reference.
16:37 <RazorSharpFang> Hence the use of immutable structs I see.
16:37 <Cepheid> If you want to pass a struct by reference, you have to use the ref keyword. Same goes for any other unmanaged type, like int, short, etc.
16:38 <RazorSharpFang> I'm quite happy with the Lua runtime of NeoLua, might even see about integrating it into the work project.
16:41 <Cepheid> Heh.
16:42 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, I got my libpng simplified API reader/writer P/Invoke library done.
16:42 <RazorSharpFang> Hmm, what does "Func`1" refer to?
16:43 <Cepheid> I have no idea.
16:43 <Cepheid> But I believe it's a function with one parameter.
16:44 <Cepheid> If I had to guess though, it's probably talking about a delegate/function pointer/event handler somewhere expecting a function with 1 parameter.
16:44 <Cepheid> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/api/system.func-1?view=net-5.0 Probably this.
16:46 <Cepheid> As for why I'm implementing a small libpng P/Invoke library, it's because the System.Drawing namespace has a number of shortcomings.
16:46 <Cepheid> Plus, practice for P/Invoking Freetype.
16:47 <RazorSharpFang> Right, I need to figure out how to turn that into a ThreadStart
16:48 <Cepheid> Unfortunately with me, there's complexities with Freetype. A lot of it's structures contain pointers to structures, which don't translate well in P/Invoke stuff.
16:49 <RazorSharpFang> Write unsafe code
16:49 <Cepheid> That's the plan.
16:49 <Cepheid> I was lucky with libpng, as it doesn't require much in the way of pointers.
16:53 <RazorSharpFang> Sleep time for me, cyas.
16:53 <Cepheid> Laters.
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17:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: New Simple Izzy Tennis Ball Catching Game [ https://tinyurl.com/y7kmc3wk ]
17:09 <Cepheid> My kingdom for typedef in C#, or something akin to it.
17:23 <Schism> SONY. Please, please just... stop. I don't think that DOOM 3 is the right choice for a VR game. It's certainly not the right choice for a DOOM title.
17:31 <Finwe> o3o
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17:34 <Finwe> Miss Ali, Mr Cepheid.
17:34 * Finwe doffs his hat.
17:34 <Cepheid> Finwe.
17:34 <Schism> rAdm. Finwe.
17:34 * Schism doffs her banana.
17:41 * Ali doffs all over Schism
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17:54 * Ali squeaks
17:55 * Finwe oils Ali.
17:55 * Ali flails as the oil does nothing to stop the squeaking
17:59 * Schism reads a bit about
17:59 <Schism> Amelio Robles Ávila, and then the Zapatistas.
17:59 <Finwe> The Zapato Productions Intradimensional?
18:00 <Schism> Close, but not quite. The Liberation Army of the South, which was primarily led by Emiliano Zapata.
18:01 <LibrarianofHope> what about them?
18:01 <LibrarianofHope> that can be two things
18:01 <Schism> Just musing over how they treated Ávila properly, and accepted him for himself.
18:01 <LibrarianofHope> ahh
18:01 <LibrarianofHope> the mexican revolution soldier?
18:01 <Schism> Yup.
18:02 <LibrarianofHope> they were busy to bother with gender norms
18:03 <Finwe> Mexico had a Habsburg emperor at some point, eeenope?
18:03 <LibrarianofHope> yes
18:04 <LibrarianofHope> we had a french occupation for a while
18:04 <LibrarianofHope> the conflict started by something called "the cake war"
18:04 <Finwe> Around when fellow 'Murricans were busy killing each other?
18:04 <LibrarianofHope> yes
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18:05 <LibrarianofHope> napoleon the second imposed a hambsurg emperor on us, using damage to french citizens in our internal conflitcs as an excuse
18:06 <LibrarianofHope> Maximilian of Habsburg
18:06 <Schism> Something of a flimsy casus belli, that.
18:06 <Schism> But really, I'm sure he just needed an excuse.
18:06 <LibrarianofHope> the president at that time, Benito Juarez, began a goverment in exile
18:07 <LibrarianofHope> and a war against the french invaders
18:07 <LibrarianofHope> we eventually won, Maximilain was a very lousy commander
18:07 <LibrarianofHope> and had a crazy wife
18:08 <LibrarianofHope> he was executed on Juarez's command
18:08 <Finwe> Princess Charlotte of Belgium, roight?
18:08 <LibrarianofHope> yep
18:08 <LibrarianofHope> the castle they lived in is still standing
18:08 <LibrarianofHope> is a nice tourist place
18:09 <LibrarianofHope> the habsburg were extremely mad that one of their own got killed by a mere mexican
18:09 <LibrarianofHope> particularly becuase Benito Juarez was an indigeous mexican
18:10 <LibrarianofHope> cause racists
18:18 <Cepheid> Right, I can't figure out how this math works out.
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18:23 <Cepheid> https://i.imgur.com/EjMVguw.png I can see how they got down to the second line, but I can't understand how they go from the second line to the third line. Other than substituting a(Fn-1 + Fn-2) to aFn, because Fn represents fibonacci numbers. Thus, Fn-1 + Fn-2 = Fn. But I don't get how the -2b + O(1) is exchanged for - b - (b - O(1)).
18:23 <Schism> This seems familiar. https://twitter.com/KBSpangler/status/1367177711563788290
18:25 <Cepheid> I appear to have forgotten some basic mathematics.
18:26 <Cepheid> The math checks out, but I don't know how they got to it.
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18:59 <Cepheid> Riiiight, I've been working non-stop since 8:30 AM this morning approximately. I need to stop and take a break.
19:02 <Cepheid> OSHA might want to have a word with the salting truck outside.
19:03 <Cepheid> It's a pickup truck loaded with salt. The people deploying the salt are standing in the back while the truck is moving, and shoveling the salt onto the road.
19:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3623 [ https://tinyurl.com/y8j5b62y ]
19:07 <Cepheid> ...
19:07 <Cepheid> And now they're hanging off the side, shoveling it onto the ground.
19:07 <Cepheid> Oh my gods these people deserve to get hurt.
19:16 <Cepheid> With respect to relaxatatin' time, gaming is gonna be...
19:16 <Cepheid> Etrian Odyssey Nexus.
19:17 <Cepheid> Or it would be if the battery had enough of a charge for the system to power on. It won't power on even if plugged in, until a certain charge level is reached for some reason.
19:17 <Cepheid> Ah, there it goes.
19:18 <Cepheid> Right. I was in the Ancient Forest, at level 47 or so, and had a boss to kill that was trouble.
19:20 <Cepheid> Right. The problem was these bats.
19:20 <Cepheid> The boss itself is no trouble, for the most part. It's the respawning bats.
19:22 <Cepheid> They respawn instantaneously, and their attacks regenerate their health, and can hit multiple times, each time draining health.
19:22 <Cepheid> They have 1,200 health, so a OHKO isn't possible.
19:26 <Cepheid> Hmm. Can I exhaust the supply of bats, I wonder?
19:27 <Cepheid> I'm gonna say "No", given I killed three from the same spawn point and another still spawned.
19:28 <Schism> ... ... ... Cepheid. https://twitter.com/danrkports/status/1366898431621406720
19:28 <Cepheid> Heh.
19:29 <Cepheid> ... Least these bats are good quick money if I can get next to a spawn spot that leaves me behind them so I always get first-turns.
19:29 <Cepheid> 1800en/piece, and I can kill them in two turns.
19:29 <Cepheid> Comparison is the moles, which give items worth ~256 maximum.
19:31 <Cepheid> Get a character strong enough to one-shot 'em, and they'd be a great grinding spot for a lowbie.
19:31 <Cepheid> That said, closest I can get to a one-shot is 750 or so damage.
19:32 <Cepheid> And that's with the best weapon I can buy right now.
19:35 <Cepheid> Interestingly, they seem to have a very specific pattern. So specific, it appears to possibly be tied to the turn number.
19:43 <Cepheid> Atlus, I know you're all about difficulty, but this seems excessive even by my standards.
19:46 <Cepheid> If the bats move once every 2 turns, I have 32 turns to kill the boss.
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19:48 <Cepheid> Oh Atlus, you arses.
19:49 <Cepheid> The bats move every turn while fighting this thing. Probably because of Resonant Roar.
19:49 <LibrarianofHope> i feel great owo
19:50 <LibrarianofHope> im even begginign to enjoy heat
19:50 <LibrarianofHope> owo
19:50 <Cepheid> Sounds like you're slowly starting to get better. That's good.
19:50 <Cepheid> Don't take it as an indication that you can just go back to what you were doing, though. Give it a few more days, please.
19:51 <LibrarianofHope> i never stopped, i just do vibration exercises during the day
19:51 <LibrarianofHope> it was muscle pain
19:52 * LibrarianofHope poslishes ali for great justice
19:52 * Ali flails
19:53 <Cepheid> Before the bats got to me, I managed 40% of it's health.
19:53 <Cepheid> If I'm going to do overwhelming force, I'll need at least 3 Imperials.
19:56 <Cepheid> Let's see..
19:58 <Cepheid> Weak to ice, sleep, leg binding(???), resistant to stun, stone, poison, normal to everything else. Weak to sleep, hmm?
19:58 <Cepheid> Geezus they ain't kidding. One attempt and I bound it's legs *AND* put it to sleep.
20:00 <Schism> Feels like you'll need to kill it while it's poisoned or something for the bonus drop.
20:00 <Cepheid> Given it's the Chimaera, I'd say that's all-but-guaranteed.
20:01 <Schism> Huh. Didn't expect to be _right_...
20:01 <Cepheid> No, I don't actually know.
20:01 <Schism> But based on previous games, that seems to fit.
20:01 <Cepheid> But it seems incredibly likely.
20:01 <Cepheid> Given it deals out poison.
20:02 <Cepheid> And it's not a simple case of killing the bats ASAP. There's three IN A ROW.
20:02 <Schism> Of course, killing it in the first place is kind of necessary before you can get fancy.
20:02 <Cepheid> And they all move one space a turn, no matter what.
20:03 <Schism> Could be worse. <Chimaera used ROAR! Chimaera fled the battle.>
20:03 <Cepheid> Heh.
20:03 <Cepheid> It actually does get worse.
20:03 <Cepheid> The bats appear in the back row.
20:03 <Cepheid> So damage against them is reduced.
20:05 <Cepheid> And the bats also inflict headbind, so the two magic users will need to have resistance.
20:06 <Cepheid> I'm tempted to try something, to test effective strengths.
20:06 * Cepheid pulls out spreadsheet software.
20:08 <Schism> How to write a proper dedication to a fan, courtesy of Chris Kluwe. https://twitter.com/MrMatthewGeorge/status/1367195483588993029/photo/1
20:11 *** Joins: Angeline (Scootaloo@I.Will.Fly.Higher)
20:11 <Cepheid> Volt Star level 1, against a weak target, average damage over 8 uses... 71.75 damage.
20:15 <Cepheid> Level 2, average is 73.375. For an increase of approximately 2.26%.
20:16 <Cepheid> If it's not multiplicative, then that would mean level 10 tops out at 22.60% or around there.
20:16 <Cepheid> Meaning at max level I should be dealing around 88 damage.
20:17 <Cepheid> ... 110. So it's probably multiplicative.
20:22 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, maxed out Etheric Gleam increases the damage by 30% for five turns.
20:23 <Cepheid> So, ultimately, the magic caster is the weakest link here.
20:27 <Cepheid> Interesting. For a change, the Target-all spells are actually stronger than the basic ones.
20:28 <Cepheid> Of course, they come at a casting price nearly twice that of the base spell.
20:32 <Cepheid> Oh wow.
20:33 <Cepheid> Even with just one rank in Etheric Charge, the damage output went from ~150 to nearly 700.
20:35 <Cepheid> Gonna save with this build. Goal is to just burn the boss down ASAP, then I'll reconfigure afterwards.
20:37 <Cepheid> ...
20:37 <Cepheid> Whelp.
20:37 <Cepheid> I just dealt 1,575 damage against the boss with her ice spell.
20:41 * Schism hm. "I wasn't aware the phrase 'take this like, and go jump in a lake' was enough to get a suspension, but eh. 12 hours off Twitter won't do me any harm.
20:41 <Cepheid> Hmm. If I had amritas on hand, this would become viable.
20:42 <Cepheid> I could just grind it down slowly, ignore the bat enemies.
20:44 <Cepheid> I got it down to 10%.
20:44 <Cepheid> I'm... still alive, somehow. So let's see if I can grind it away with physical attacks.
20:46 <Cepheid> 5%...
20:47 <Cepheid> 2%..
20:47 <Schism> Manage to poison it?
20:47 <Cepheid> Killed it!
20:47 * Schism yays!
20:47 <Cepheid> And no. I wasn't gonna try.
20:47 <Cepheid> Aaaand the bats don't have to be killed.
20:47 <Schism> That's fair. Gotta grind up, grind up, grind up... oh?
20:48 <Cepheid> Hilariously, it was you who landed the killing blow, and the game even acknowledges it.
20:48 <Cepheid> "After Schism's mighty final attack, the amalgamated monster falls over."
20:49 <Schism> Noice. o3o Not especially mighty, though, I imagine.
20:49 * Schism feels like, considering her normal role, she just kind of poked it with a stick.
20:49 <Cepheid> No. You were in the back row, with low strength and a weapon designed for boosting magical capabilities, not physical.
20:49 <Cepheid> Yeah, you basically just did that. Bonked it on the head.
20:49 <Cepheid> "Go to horni jail."
20:49 <Schism> That IS how the final blow should be done. X3
20:51 <Cepheid> You know, it's funny.
20:51 <Cepheid> My first plan was to go "Yeah, I'm not gonna win this" after I ran out of TP for hitting it.
20:51 <Cepheid> And reload the save.
20:51 <Cepheid> By deciding to see just how far I could get, well, I won.
20:56 <Cepheid> Next stratum...
20:56 <Cepheid> Undersea Grotto. Second stratum from EO3.
20:59 <Cepheid> I suppose this is the closest I'll ever get to EO3 Untold. It'll never be remade, so..
21:01 <Cepheid> I wonder if the boss is the same.
21:03 * Finwe falleth asleep.
21:03 * Finwe curls up on Ali and snoozes.
21:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: PrinceWhateverer - FRIENDSHIP [ https://tinyurl.com/y9ywbuo9 ]
21:07 <Cepheid> Man.
21:07 <Cepheid> Why is the theme to this place so dark sounding?
21:23 *** Quits: NitroTheFurry (Nitro@Pony-l42sv5.mi.comcast.net) (Connection closed)
21:25 *** Joins: NitroTheFurry (Nitro@Pony-l42sv5.mi.comcast.net)
21:31 <LibrarianofHope> i have a repeat caller from my insurance cliients
21:31 <LibrarianofHope> she is cleared bored and wants to talk i guess
21:31 <LibrarianofHope> she is nice about it so no biggue
21:34 * Dappled_ collapse horse.
21:34 * Dappled_ lays there.
21:56 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, my health is doing better. Though, I need to get exercising again.
22:02 <Cepheid> School's askin' me if I want to attend a blockchain lecture. I already know what I need to know about the blockchain: It's killing our planet.
22:02 * Dappled_ chews on blockchain. Maybe with enough teeth marks in it, I won't have to go to work today.
22:04 * Dappled_ did see that we are getting a VR remake of Doom3. That should be cool.
22:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Community Soapbox - A Love Interest for Luna, G5 Future, Complicated Stories, and More! [ https://tinyurl.com/yacvs32u ]
22:12 * Dappled_ obtains borger.
22:20 * Cepheid curls up in a ball and starts screaming quietly.
22:25 <Schism> Cepheid: Are you ... well, that's how I usually react to blockchain.
22:26 <Schism> ( https://twitter.com/qntm/status/1113554165245018112 )
22:26 * Dappled_ discovers he doesn't know what blockchain is. Chews more to understand.
22:27 <Schism> Dappled_, you don't want to know. If you start down this road, you'll start thinking that currencies levied by governments are worthless and that the only way to produce money is via a ridiculous amount of energy used to define a single dollar.
22:28 <Schism> And it's only a few steps down the path from there to Galt's Gulch.
22:29 <Dappled_> Oh, yeah, money is a social construct that's value is determined by shared agreement. Unfortunately the buyers don't have much say at the moment. So the the shared agreement is more between corporations.
22:30 <Schism> Which is perfectly reasonable. Now, what do you get when you recreate that with the idea of a meritocratic society where the majority of the wealth is held in the hands of the actual workers; second, what do you get when you put that money into the hands of those who just come up with and implement good ideas?
22:31 <Schism> And WRT cryptocurrency: What do you get when you put that in the hands of those who got there first?
22:31 <Dappled_> This just got to high concept for a person who did a 13 hour shift followed by a 10 hour shift in a row.
22:31 <Schism> Ohfgfglh, sorry.
22:31 * Schism passes Dappled a hambone. With lots of ham on it.
22:32 <Dappled_> Is all good. I just acknowledge that work has my mental faculties a bit low at the moment.
22:32 * Dappled_ chews on the ham bone.
22:32 <Schism> You seem on the ball right now, but also deserve some rest. Please tell me you're getting some rest.
22:33 <Dappled_> Sure, it's everything else that's falling behind, I've resorted to doordash to get a hot meal before work cause I'm to tired to actually put anything together to cook cause dishes are also piling up and I need to laundry, etc, etc.
22:34 <Schism> I am in utter sincerity when I say that I despise the entire capitalist empire.
22:36 <Dappled_> I'm fairly certain that evern if we were up to staff and had the equipment for monday, the floorplan wouldn't have allowed us to finish that in under 8 hours cause forklifts wouldn't have been able to get past each other to pull the lines.
22:36 <Schism> I don't buy ham, for the record, at cost. Not usually. I just usually buy little near-expired chunks of meat at 50%.
22:37 <Schism> You're probably correct.
22:37 * Dappled_ grumble horse.
22:38 <Schism> How the hell are people so completely unable to grok that?
22:39 * Dappled_ narrows eyes at Schism. That seems like a Strange thing to say.
22:39 <Dappled_> Especially in this strange land.
22:39 * Schism headtilts innocently. "Yes, I use 'grok' as a regular verb."
22:40 <Dappled_> I'm just saying Heinlien has kinda passed out of popular media.
22:40 <Dappled_> Though they are still making Starship Trooper movies.
22:41 <Schism> I'm 34 years old, I get to quote Heinlein et al. whenever I want. And Starship Trooper is troublesome. (So's Heinlein, of course.) I also get to quote DUNE on occasion.
22:41 <Dappled_> My god!
22:41 * Lumindia chews on Dappled
22:42 <Schism> I also get to recognize that Heinlein was a racist, sexist jerk.
22:42 * Dappled_ hugs Lumindia.
22:42 <Schism> (Though much less so than many others.)
22:42 <Lumindia> You taste like pony
22:42 <Dappled_> This is fair.
22:42 <Schism> Though I like his quote about what a human being should be able to do. Specialization is for insects.
22:43 * Schism chews on her chitinous hoof.
22:45 <Schism> If a person is a part of society, they should have the resources to understand and learn whatever skill they want, commensurate to the society's needs. To hunt meat, to grow food, to create a database capable of writing all this down.
22:47 * Dappled_ doesn't hate his job of making sure products get to customers, just hates that we are understaffed to the point that we can't do the job in a reasonable amount of time. I would love to be able to practice painting my minis or playing the piano but I'm constantly exhausted on weekdays and spend
22:47 * Dappled_ weekends recovering.
22:48 <Schism> I like being able to help people, too. But being understaffed, and terminally so, means that your days are so stressful that all you want to do at the end is sleep...
22:48 <Schism> 8 hours is not a short enough time.
22:52 <LibrarianofHope> i dont have much of a choice bleh
22:52 <LibrarianofHope> i dont enjoy insurance
22:52 * Lumindia chews on Schism
22:52 <Lumindia> you taste like... not pony
22:53 <LibrarianofHope> she is a ...
22:53 <LibrarianofHope> bug pony
22:53 <LibrarianofHope> changeling
22:54 <Lumindia> and a huggable opne at that
22:54 * Lumindia huuug
22:55 * Dappled_ holds up Ponyfinder.... Hmmmmm... Doppelganger ponies are not bugs....
22:56 * Dappled_ also grumbles harder. His direct supervisor just called in, which is more work for me as I'm her second.
22:58 * Cepheid is fine now. Fine. Fine.
22:59 * Dappled_ sits off in a corner to cry.
23:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: My Little Pony/Transformers: The Magic of Cybertron - Now Available for Pre-order [ https://tinyurl.com/y73xavs5 ]
23:16 * Cepheid got 30 minutes of biking in. Will make an effort to do this at least 3 times a week. o3o
23:27 <Cepheid> A typical EO game has 25 floors, +5 post-game floors. By my count, I've cleared...
23:27 <Cepheid> 22 floors.
23:33 *** Joins: PinkieShy (coolm@Pony-ck81je.67-212-45-net.sccoast.net)
23:40 * LibrarianofHope throws dappled a squig
23:40 <LibrarianofHope> squigs for days
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